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[20:02] <Netia19> curt

[20:02] <okiecurt> Yes?

[20:03] <BobWestbrook> Hi! Pretty good group here already!

[20:03] <tryChrist> we spent 7 wonderful years up that way, Federal Way, south of Seattle

[20:03] <Gloria1947> Hi Bob

[20:03] <Netia19> sory you have rain

[20:03] <BobWestbrook> Hi Gloria!

[20:03] <Bezalel3> Just waiting on our guru, Bob.

[20:03] <tryChrist> Hey Bob, hows things

[20:04] <BobWestbrook> Guru? ummmm, I don't think so :)

[20:04] <BobWestbrook> Doing good - eating cheese puffs - it sure is hard not to get the orange goop on the keyboard! :)

[20:05] <okiecurt> LOl

[20:05] <tryChrist> :)

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[20:05] <Bezalel3> Shalom, Marion.

[20:05] <Netia19> Hi Bob

[20:05] <tryChrist> howdy marion

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[20:06] <tryChrist> hey gran!

[20:06] <Bezalel3> ((((((((((((((((((((((((Gran)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[20:06] <BobWestbrook> Hi Netia! You're becoming a real regular here! Great to see you again!

[20:06] <GranBland> 6:->

[20:06] <BobWestbrook> Hi Gran!!

[20:06] <Bezalel3> All settled in, Gran?

[20:06] <Gloria1947> Hi Gran

[20:06] <GranBland> 6shalom to you all

[20:07] <Netia19> JUST love coming here

[20:07] <GranBland> 6I finally got moved but not quite settled but nearly so.

[20:07] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:07] <Bezalel3> That's great, Gran. How's your son doing?

[20:07] <GranBland> 6yeah for sure love the quiet here

[20:07] <tryChrist> do we have to use the "move" word :)

[20:07] <Bezalel3> LOL Miller

[20:07] <GranBland> 6he sounds better but have not seen him for several weeks

[20:07] <Bezalel3> We'll keep praying.

[20:07] <GranBland> 6we talk on the phone

[20:08] <BobWestbrook> OK, let's pray - Lord, we do indeed thank you for the peace, the shalom, you have put in our hearts through knowing you

[20:08] <GranBland> 6Miller here is the phone number for the Kangaroo preserve

[20:08] <tryChrist> well, before we get into things, I have a BIG favor of you all

[20:08] <BobWestbrook> You are our peace, having removed the condemnation that was against us through the atonement of Messiah Jesus

[20:08] <Bezalel3> You are our reason and purpose. Your praises we sing.

[20:08] <GranBland> 6 706-265-6100

[20:09] <BobWestbrook> Thank you Lord for your constant care, for looking after us who are sometime wavering

[20:09] <GranBland> 6and here is the websirt for the wild animal preserve www.rainbownation.org

[20:09] <BobWestbrook> Thank you for your grace in choosing us to be sons and daughters of light

[20:09] <tryChrist> yes father, hold us close and keep us from evil in these days

[20:09] <GranBland> 6yes Lord

[20:10] <Gloria1947> You are our Prince of peace

[20:10] <BobWestbrook> We ask you to open your Word to us tonight, so that we can shine your light in a dark and corrupt world

[20:10] <GranBland> 6we give you praise and thanksgiving for all the blessings you give to us

[20:10] <tryChrist> help us to focus on Your ways and not mans

[20:10] <BobWestbrook> May your Spirit be our teacher

[20:10] <BobWestbrook> Thank you for hearing us, your children - AMEN!

[20:10] <GranBland> 6yes and lord help us to keep our mind open to your word

[20:10] <Bezalel3> Amen

[20:10] <GranBland> 6Praise you holy name amen

[20:11] <tryChrist> thank you lord for giving us access to your throne room by your spirit whos intercesses for us

[20:11] <Gloria1947> Amen

[20:11] <tryChrist> amen

[20:11] <BobWestbrook> Miller, what was the favor you wanted to ask?

[20:11] <GranBland> 6is Stan here?

[20:11] <BobWestbrook> Nope, Stan is zzzzzzzzzing in Jerusalem :)

[20:11] <Netia19> Amen

[20:11] <GranBland> 6OK good for him

[20:12] <tryChrist> well, we are going back to Denver in the next month, I just ask you all keep us in prayer during this time, for God's guidence

[20:12] <GranBland> 6Miller did you get the info about the Kangaroos

[20:12] <tryChrist> yep, thanks

[20:12] <GranBland> 6I guess I butted in

[20:12] <BobWestbrook> Will do, Miller - may the Lord keep and guide you!

[20:12] <MarvBMar> shalom to all. How is everyone

[20:12] <Netia19> You have it

[20:12] <BobWestbrook> Hello Marion!

[20:12] <GranBland> 6Marian shalom doing good here

[20:13] <GranBland> 6Miller I have a son inDenver

[20:13] <GranBland> 6he works for Gateway computers

[20:13] <GranBland> 6his name is Jeff Bland

[20:13] <GranBland> 6please pray for him

[20:13] <BobWestbrook> The big news of the day is Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah meeting with President Bush for 5 hours

[20:13] <Netia19> Marvblest and you

[20:13] <tryChrist> e-mail me Gran. tryChrist@juno.com about him

[20:13] <GranBland> 6oh my wonder if that is good or bad news

[20:14] <GranBland> 6OK I will

[20:14] <BobWestbrook> No doubt the primary subject of the meeting was Israel, and the Saudis demand that Bush get tougher with them

[20:14] <tryChrist> sounds like ole George likes this fellow all of the sudden

[20:14] <Bezalel3> Yes, and Pres. Bush's statement after didn't say much about Israel or Iraq.

[20:14] <MarvBMar> I am great, thanks

[20:15] <BobWestbrook> The Saudis absolutely disgust me - they are one of the most corrupt, despicable regimes every to exist on the planet, and extremely hypocritical in light of Sept 11

[20:15] <GranBland> 6good Marian

[20:15] <BobWestbrook> They themselves fund and support terror

[20:15] <tryChrist> and the Prince's idea is to put the land back to 1967

[20:15] <BobWestbrook> Yes, Miller

[20:15] <Gloria1947> thats right Bob

[20:15] <GranBland> 6sure they don't want any PA's around them

[20:16] <Bezalel3> I found one pundit's comment that Saudis were going to threaten US with their becoming friendly with Iraq.....

[20:16] <MarvBMar> & they also act as terrorist against their own people

[20:16] <GranBland> 6it was the Arabs that insisted they leave Israel to begin with and then stuck them in camps

[20:16] <Bezalel3> very interesting, considering last week's chat.

[20:16] <tryChrist> i for one don't trust any of it. perhaps a peace for a bit, but i think the outcome is still to get rid of israel in the end

[20:17] <BobWestbrook> I've been reading a few books about the House of Saud lately, and they are incredibly corrupt extended family

[20:17] <GranBland> 6not surpiseing

[20:17] <MarvBMar> the scriptures say When they cry peace & safety there is not peace & safety

[20:17] <Netia19> but that will never hapenGod willl not alow it

[20:17] <BobWestbrook> Listen to this quote from their delagation today:

[20:17] <BobWestbrook> "It is a mistake to think that our people will not do what is necessary to survive," the person close to the crown prince said, "and if that means we move to the right of bin Laden, so be it; to the left of Qaddafi, so be it; or fly to Baghdad and embrace Saddam like a brother, so be it. It's damned lonely in our part of the world, and we can no longer defend our relationship to our people."

[20:18] <Netia19> ok

[20:18] <BobWestbrook> Yes, Miller, that is their goal, the elimination of Israel

[20:19] <BobWestbrook> But things are not going to work out well for them

[20:19] <MarvBMar> I heard tonight that from Saudi at their shrine they denounced Israel & called them all kinds of names

[20:19] <BobWestbrook> Yes, Marion, one of their leading religious leaders said all kinds of vile things about the Jews this weekend in a sermon

[20:20] <MarvBMar> how terrible

[20:20] <Gloria1947> I know we like their oil but we had better learn to trust God and his will in this matter

[20:20] <MarvBMar> John Walsh denounced arafat as the worse of terrorists on Larry King live the other night

[20:20] <Netia19> Amen Gloria

[20:21] <Gloria1947> God Bless John Walsh

[20:21] <BobWestbrook> From CNN:

[20:21] <BobWestbrook> . Meanwhile, officials said Bush would call on the Saudis to be a constructive part of the solution.

[20:21] <BobWestbrook> For example, the United States wants the Saudi kingdom to stop sending money to support Hamas, a Palestinian Islamic fundamentalist organization, that has been labeled by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist group. The group's military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, has admitted responsibility for terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians and well as attacks against the Israeli military.

[20:21] <MarvBMar> He said he was in the middle east & arafat on arab tv said horrible things against us & Israel

[20:21] <BobWestbrook> Bush should not even be talking to Abdullah - he is a direct sponsor and supporter of terrorists

[20:22] <tryChrist> i heard a blip about oil deposits in the US were filling back up and the scientist were a bit baffled... they are looking into it and want to see if it is world wide

[20:22] <MarvBMar> true Bob but he has to use them right now

[20:22] <BobWestbrook> Have you heard about the group that has plans to drill for oil near the Dead Sea?

[20:22] <MarvBMar> God will provide Miller

[20:23] <BobWestbrook> It's a Christian owned company based in Texas, Ness Energy (Ness means miracle in Hebrew)

[20:23] <Netia19> no Bob

[20:23] <GranBland> 6that sounds good

[20:23] <tryChrist> i read in an israeli paper a year or so ago that that area was rich in oil deposits

[20:24] <BobWestbrook> it's quite a fascinating story, Here's there website if you want to read more about it: http://www.nessenergy.com

[20:24] <Gloria1947> having anything to do with the saudi's or Arafat is like dancing with the devil

[20:24] <MarvBMar> I heard gold too

[20:24] <Bezalel3> I wonder if the PA will claim any oil taken is really from the PA's land?

[20:24] <BobWestbrook> This devout Christian man, Hayseed Stephens (yup, that's his name) is convinced from the Scriptures that he is going to strike a huge oil deposit there in Israel

[20:25] <Bezalel3> Kinda like the water.

[20:25] <BobWestbrook> Their website, Bez, says its within the pre-67 Israel borders

[20:25] <MarvBMar> of course they will Bez. They try to take all from Israel

[20:25] <Bezalel3> That hasn't stopped the PA's gripes about the water.

[20:26] <MarvBMar> so Bob if Israel goes to 1967 boarders will that mean it is out of Israel

[20:27] <BobWestbrook> No, sorry, I meant it was within Israel's borders as they were before 67

[20:27] <BobWestbrook> And Israel is not going back to the 67 borders anyway :)

[20:27] <MarvBMar> suddenly it is very quiet

[20:27] <MarvBMar> are you there???????

[20:27] <Bezalel3> I'm here Marion.

[20:27] <BobWestbrook> I'm here :)

[20:27] <Netia19> i am stuned

[20:28] <MarvBMar> oh good

[20:28] <MarvBMar> I thought I was back in limbo

[20:28] <GranBland> 6just reading don't know anything about the oil

[20:28] <BobWestbrook> Nope, nobody in limbo, now or ever :)

[20:28] <GranBland> 6too tired to type much

[20:28] <MarvBMar> did anyone have trouble getting in Tuesday?

[20:28] <Netia19> no marv

[20:28] <tryChrist> the article i read in the israeli paper last year said that they expect much oil from the dead sea bed

[20:29] <GranBland> 6didn't try went to bed early

[20:29] <MarvBMar> I tried & tried but couldn't

[20:29] <BobWestbrook> I could not get in the chat room on Thursday - Stan said all of Talk City was down

[20:29] <Bezalel3> Talk City went down Tuesday, Marion...everyone got bumped and couldn't get back in.

[20:29] <GranBland> 6I would think there would be with all the mineral deposits there

[20:29] <Netia19> is ther any way to get that paperon her

[20:30] <BobWestbrook> Miller, I happened upon a Scripture today while I was looking for something...

[20:30] <MarvBMar> on her?

[20:30] <tryChrist> yea...

[20:30] <GranBland> 6on here who

[20:30] <GranBland> 6her who?

[20:30] <Netia19> sorry the web

[20:30] <MarvBMar> ???>

[20:30] <MarvBMar> oh ok

[20:30] <GranBland> 6web about the oil?

[20:31] <BobWestbrook> First, did you know that before Sodom and Gomorrah, the area where the Dead Sea now is was a lush, fertile valley?

[20:31] <tryChrist> most of the papers are posted on the net, you could possibly look at their archives.

[20:31] <GranBland> 6yes

[20:31] <Netia19> the paper

[20:31] <MarvBMar> was it a live sea also?

[20:31] <BobWestbrook> That's why Lot chose it when he and Abraham's herds didn't have enough room - it looked like the better land

[20:31] <Netia19> ok

[20:31] <GranBland> 6and then God destroyed them

[20:31] <BobWestbrook> Apparently not, Marion

[20:31] <tryChrist> good question about the paper... i can't remember which one

[20:31] <Gloria1947> no Bob

[20:32] <BobWestbrook> The huge hole caused by the destruction of Sodom is where the Dead Sea now is, the lowest place on earth

[20:32] <GranBland> 6lots of matereal to make oil deposits

[20:32] <Bezalel3> Netia, here's the site Bob posted: http://www.nessenergy.com/

[20:33] <BobWestbrook> Now, you remember when there was a battle of kings, and Lot and associates were captured?

[20:33] <GranBland> 6yep

[20:33] <tryChrist> k

[20:33] <BobWestbrook> (Genesis 14:8 NIV) Then the king of Sodom, the king of Gomorrah, the king of Admah, the king of Zeboiim and the king of Bela (that is, Zoar) marched out and drew up their battle lines in the Valley of Siddim

[20:33] <BobWestbrook> (Genesis 14:9 NIV) against Kedorlaomer king of Elam, Tidal king of Goiim, Amraphel king of Shinar and Arioch king of Ellasar--four kings against five.

[20:33] <BobWestbrook> (Genesis 14:10 NIV) Now the Valley of Siddim was full of tar pits, and when the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, some of the men fell into them and the rest fled to the hills.

[20:33] <GranBland> 6and Abraham and 300 servants got them all back safe

[20:33] <BobWestbrook> (Genesis 14:11-12 NIV) The four kings seized all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah and all their food; then they went away. {12} They also carried off Abram's nephew Lot and his possessions, since he was living in Sodom.

[20:33] <Bezalel3> Tar pits???

[20:34] <BobWestbrook> I believe, and I may be wrong, that the Valley of Siddim was where the Dead Sea now is

[20:34] <BobWestbrook> Bingo, Bez

[20:34] <GranBland> 6didn't know about tar pits

[20:34] <tryChrist> very cool :)

[20:34] <BobWestbrook> (Genesis 14:10 NRSV) Now the Valley of Siddim was full of bitumen pits; and as the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, some fell into them, and the rest fled to the hill country.

[20:34] <GranBland> 6WOW

[20:34] <Bezalel3> Black gold, Texas T

[20:34] <BobWestbrook> Sounds like petroleum to me!

[20:35] <GranBland> 6Beverley Hill billies

[20:35] <Bezalel3> Bubbling out of the ground.

[20:35] <GranBland> 6ye hah

[20:35] <BobWestbrook> LOL

[20:35] <tryChrist> Go figure, how much more will God show us! Praise His Name

[20:35] <GranBland> 6amen praise HIS HOLY NAME

[20:35] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:35] <Bezalel3> That's great, geology through Bible scripture...:-)

[20:36] <GranBland> 6yep ver cool y'll

[20:36] <GranBland> 6oops lived in the south too long

[20:36] <BobWestbrook> :::: doing a yippeee dance :::::

[20:36] <GranBland> 6sorry bout that

[20:36] <MarvBMar> thats ok Gran

[20:36] <GranBland> 6do one for me dear too tired here

[20:36] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:37] <GranBland> 6'yeah I know y

[20:37] <tryChrist> :) yoo ought not tak lik dat Gran, is ok ta be dat way

[20:37] <Netia19> no need Gran to be sorry

[20:37] <GranBland> 6y'll love me

[20:37] <BobWestbrook> Here's another cool thing, from that website.....

[20:37] <MarvBMar> yes we do Gran

[20:37] <GranBland> 6Goodie

[20:37] Bezalel3 14throws 6CONFETTI & 11BALLOONS 10in the air for BobWestbrook `;~12'O~~~*`;.'13O~~~~*`; ^ BobWestbrook .'`~;`~`10O~~~~*`;.'``2O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`3 O~~~*`; BobWestbrook .~~``8'O~~~~*`;.'`~;`~`5O~~~~*`;.'12O~~~~*` BobWestbrook ;.'`~;`~`13O~~~*`;.'9O~~~~*`; BobWestbrook .'`~;`~`4O~~~~*`;.2O````~~~~``*13***~~O``````~~~*''"'

[20:37] <GranBland> 6wow Bez how do you do that stuff

[20:37] <MarvBMar> Bez I like your confetti

[20:38] <BobWestbrook> just before the Shah of Iran was deposed in 1979, he had reached an agreement with Israel to build a major oil pipeline there, to the Mediterranean

[20:38] <MarvBMar> I miss my Christian command

[20:38] <GranBland> 6looks great

[20:38] <BobWestbrook> immediately after it was finished, the Islamic revolution happened

[20:38] <Bezalel3> Marion, download Pirch from Talk City, it's a lot like Christian Command.

[20:38] <GranBland> 6oh gosh I forgot about that deal

[20:38] <BobWestbrook> and that pipeline has been sitting idle since, very close to where Ness Energy is going to drill

[20:38] <MarvBMar> I have low ram so won't do it now

[20:39] <GranBland> 6woopie wahooy

[20:39] <Bezalel3> Heh, heh, heh....

[20:39] <tryChrist> seems that oil has a bit of power...

[20:39] <GranBland> 6I love it

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[20:39] <MarvBMar> Bob had they drilled also or just laying the pipeline

[20:39] <GranBland> 6yeah power to drive engines

[20:39] <GranBland> 6he he

[20:39] <tryChrist> :)

[20:40] <BobWestbrook> They had tried some drilling some years ago but the bit broke off one mile down, and they've been acquiring funding and equipment since that time to go deeper

[20:40] <GranBland> 6missing seeker tonight

[20:40] <MarvBMar> I wish we could be indeprndant of arab oil

[20:40] <tryChrist> oh, God says "not yet"

[20:41] <Netia19> why not

[20:41] <MarvBMar> & Rich

[20:41] <BobWestbrook> right, Miller, exactly

[20:41] <GranBland> 6well since Israel is a friend maybe we can strike a deal

[20:41] <Bezalel3> 25 Reasons

[20:41] <Bezalel3> Why the Oil God has saved for Israel

[20:41] <GranBland> 6if we leave them alone

[20:41] <Bezalel3> Will be discovered by

[20:41] <Bezalel3> Hayseed Stephens and NESS Energy

[20:41] <Bezalel3> That's from the Ness web site.

[20:41] <GranBland> 6ah hah

[20:42] <GranBland> 6good deal

[20:42] <MarvBMar> If the Iranians had an avenue into Israel they would be paving the way for sadamm

[20:42] <Netia19> you guys hae done your homre work

[20:42] <GranBland> 6can't imagine anyone naming a child Hayseed

[20:42] <tryChrist> bet that funding comes exactly when it should - no sooner - no later - just God's timing :)

[20:42] <GranBland> 6yep

[20:42] <MarvBMar> There must be a story behind that one Gran

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[20:42] <Bezalel3> Amen, Miller

[20:42] <BobWestbrook> Yeah, Gran :)

[20:42] <GranBland> 6must be

[20:43] <GranBland> 6old family name???

[20:43] <tryChrist> SHALOM ALLYN :)

[20:43] Bezalel3 shoots fireworks for 6 `';:*,.,*:;'` CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####> 3 `';:*,.,*:;'` CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####>4 `';:*,.,*:;'` CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####>9 `';:*,.,*:;' CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####> 13`';:*,.,*:;'` CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####> 10 `';:*,.,*:;'` CJ-Seeker *~~~~~#####>

[20:43] <CJ-Seeker> Shalom..my friends

[20:43] <MarvBMar> God doesn't need man's dill bits either

[20:43] <GranBland> 6Seeker shalom

[20:43] <Netia19> and He is always rigt on time neverb early or late

[20:43] <CJ-Seeker> wow..what a welcome!

[20:43] <MarvBMar> Seeker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[20:43] <BobWestbrook> Mr Stephens says this verse may refer to that oil deposit:

[20:43] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 45:3 NASB) "And I will give you the treasures of darkness, And hidden wealth of secret places, In order that you may know that it is I, The LORD, the God of Israel, who calls you by your name.

[20:43] <GranBland> 6ta da Allyn is here

[20:43] <Netia19> hi seeker

[20:43] <GranBland> 6you were missed dear one

[20:44] <Bezalel3> Wow, Bob....how spot on is that!!!!!!

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> Hi Karen

[20:44] <BobWestbrook> Hi Allyn!

[20:44] <MarvBMar> drill bits

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> Gran...:)

[20:44] <Gloria1947> Amen Praise God

[20:44] <BobWestbrook> Pretty cool, huh!

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> Bez

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> Miller

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> Marion

[20:44] <tryChrist> Amen, once again, Praise His Holy Name.

[20:44] <GranBland> 6ver cool buddy

[20:44] <CJ-Seeker> All of ya

[20:44] <GranBland> 6Allyn what did you think of that Chadbah I sent you

[20:45] <Netia19> try Chirst

[20:45] <GranBland> 6of course very Jewish but interesting

[20:45] <CJ-Seeker> Hmm...need to check it out firs Gran

[20:45] <tryChrist> allyn, read the log later, it has been very interesting

[20:45] <GranBland> 6yeah me too

[20:45] <CJ-Seeker> sorry..been busy today

[20:45] <tryChrist> Netia ?

[20:45] <CJ-Seeker> I will Miller

[20:46] <Netia19> yes what is you name

[20:46] <CJ-Seeker> Hows Bob doin

[20:46] <tryChrist> Miller

[20:46] <BobWestbrook> OK, well, I don't have any specific agenda tonight as far as Bible prophey passages, so it's going to be "open mike" night :)

[20:46] <BobWestbrook> Doing good!

[20:46] <Netia19> oh

[20:46] <tryChrist> whos mike? :)

[20:46] <MarvBMar> heheheh

[20:46] <GranBland> 6ha ha

[20:46] <CJ-Seeker> Oh Brother..Miller:)

[20:46] <BobWestbrook> I have a few things we can look at if no one has any questions or comments, but I thought I would open it up tonight

[20:46] <tryChrist> sorry....

[20:46] <GranBland> 6no its what Mike

[20:47] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:47] <GranBland> 6or which

[20:47] <GranBland> 6more fun being silly

[20:47] <GranBland> 6too tired to be serious

[20:47] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:47] <tryChrist> well, the oil chat was eye opening, so it has alreadt been very good

[20:47] <CJ-Seeker> Ok..what is Saudi Arabia up to?

[20:47] <BobWestbrook> Up to no good, Seeker

[20:48] <CJ-Seeker> most likely

[20:48] <tryChrist> sea level, i guess allyn

[20:48] <BobWestbrook> Trying to put the hammer down on Bush regarding Israel

[20:48] <GranBland> 6I really need to go rest some more kiddies I sure do love you all see ya tomorrow God bless and shalom to all Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[20:48] <BobWestbrook> Love you too Gran!

[20:48] <CJ-Seeker> and soon to be in over their heads

[20:48] <Bezalel3> Night, Gran....God Bless.

[20:48] <tryChrist> :)

[20:48] <CJ-Seeker> Nighty Night Gran

[20:48] <GranBland> 6yeah you all too

[20:48] <MarvBMar> Shalom Gran

[20:49] <CJ-Seeker> their all stink and no perfume

[20:49] <Gloria1947> good night God Blees Gran

[20:49] <BobWestbrook> One think I don't have any regrets about, and that is the US and the Saudis are more at odds with each other

[20:49] <tryChrist> night gran, may He bless you and keep you and be gracious upon you

[20:49] <Bezalel3> I did get a chuckle out of Saudis threatening to open relations with Iraq as a threat to US.

[20:49] <Netia19> nite Grn

[20:49] <GranBland> 6thanks for all the love from you all

[20:49] <GranBland> 6always good to see new ones come in and stay

[20:49] <Netia19> God bless

[20:49] <CJ-Seeker> What about the 100 billion dollar deal?

[20:49] <Bezalel3> 12,11(_¸.·'´11,12(_¸.·'´12,11 (_¸.·'´11,12(_¸.·'´ 12,11 GranBland 11,12 `'·.¸_)12,11`'·.¸_)11,12`'·.¸_)12,11`'·.¸_)

[20:49] <BobWestbrook> And if Bush does indeed pursue his war against Iraq, the Saudis and US could end up on different sides, which is just fine with me

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[20:49] <MarvBMar> :-> Gran

[20:50] <BobWestbrook> Yes, Bez, I say, go ahead and let them

[20:50] <tryChrist> how do you really feel about them, bob :)

[20:50] <MarvBMar> which deal is that?

[20:50] <BobWestbrook> :)

[20:50] <Netia19> :-)

[20:50] <CJ-Seeker> The one where Egypt says what it will take to war with Israel Marion

[20:50] <Bezalel3> Well, after last week's chat, they would get what they deserve by allying with Saddam.

[20:50] <MarvBMar> looks like they want assurance from the US before they commit themselves

[20:51] <BobWestbrook> Right

[20:51] <tryChrist> let us keep in mind that there are christians over there as well, not that i don't have to tell ya, but we should be praying

[20:51] <BobWestbrook> Did you hear the story about the fire at a girls school in Saudi Arabia last month where a number of girls died?

[20:51] <CJ-Seeker> yes Bob..and Yes Miller

[20:52] <Netia19> Yes and we have been

[20:52] <tryChrist> and, naturaly, we can pray for the unsaved over there

[20:52] <BobWestbrook> And they died because (a) they doors were barred so they could not have contact with males (b) the male firefighters were not allowed inside the school and (c) some of the girls were sent back into the burning building because they came out without their Muslim head covering!!!!

[20:53] <Netia19> as weel as here

[20:53] <MarvBMar> did you hear about the Jordanian woman that became a Christian & now is in hiding because they want to take her children away from her & expell her

[20:53] <Gloria1947> yes miller the world over

[20:53] <Netia19> oh no

[20:53] <MarvBMar> that is so tragic Bob

[20:53] <CJ-Seeker> I did Marion..it is a catch 22

[20:53] <Bezalel3> Isaiah 50:11 But now, all you who light fires

[20:53] <Bezalel3> and provide yourselves with flaming torches,

[20:53] <MarvBMar> they are so fanatical

[20:53] <Bezalel3> go, walk in the light of your fires

[20:54] <tryChrist> yes Netia, yes. just don't want to get caught up in bashing any country, i feel kinda bad about that

[20:54] <Bezalel3> and of the torches you have set ablaze.

[20:54] <Bezalel3> This is what you shall receive from my hand:

[20:54] <Bezalel3> You will lie down in torment.

[20:54] <CJ-Seeker> Bez is using pirch I see

[20:54] <MarvBMar> where is that scripture Bez

[20:54] <CJ-Seeker> It breaks the pasting down

[20:55] <Bezalel3> Isaiah 50:11

[20:55] <Netia19> you and i are in one accord

[20:55] <BobWestbrook> I agree, Miller, to some extent - we should have compassion on all and wish for the salvation of all, but on the other hand we should also speak out against injustice and corruption

[20:55] <tryChrist> exactly!

[20:56] <BobWestbrook> let's look more closely at the Scripture Bez brought up

[20:56] <Bezalel3> It's addressed to those who are in the dark.

[20:57] <MarvBMar> I agree Bob...Too often we do not stand up for the right

[20:57] <BobWestbrook> In these verses, the light mentioned is the illumination of man's path through life, the understanding of life's essentials issues we need to survive

[20:57] <BobWestbrook> this light can come from one of two places - the Lord, or ourselves

[20:57] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 50:10 NIV) Who among you fears the LORD and obeys the word of his servant? Let him who walks in the dark, who has no light, trust in the name of the LORD and rely on his God.

[20:58] <Bezalel3> The torches and fires we create??

[20:58] <BobWestbrook> If we acknowledge, as in verse 10, that we are in the dark, that we have no light from ourselves, then we can trust in the Lord

[20:58] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 50:11 NIV) But now, all you who light fires and provide yourselves with flaming torches, go, walk in the light of your fires and of the torches you have set ablaze. This is what you shall receive from my hand: You will lie down in torment.

[20:59] <BobWestbrook> But, those who provide their own light, as in v 11, deny any need to rely on the light, the illumination of the issues of life, that the Lord provides

[20:59] <BobWestbrook> they light their own fires, fires of religion, philosophy, acedemia

[20:59] <Bezalel3> Amen, Bob

[20:59] <Bezalel3> Humanism.

[20:59] <BobWestbrook> right

[20:59] <MarvBMar> Jesus is the light of the world but many have chosen darkness & stand in their own light

[21:00] <BobWestbrook> It's only when we acknowledge that we are in the dark with out him that we can receive the Light of the Lord

[21:00] <tryChrist> oh, the word I was looking for.... they "choose"

[21:00] <BobWestbrook> (John 1:4-5 NIV) In him was life, and that life was the light of men. {5} The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

[21:01] <MarvBMar> yes they have chosen darkness

[21:01] <BobWestbrook> (John 1:9 NASB) There was the true light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man.

[21:01] <MarvBMar> Jesus

[21:01] <BobWestbrook> (John 3:19 NIV) This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

[21:01] <Gloria1947> Amen

[21:01] <BobWestbrook> (John 3:20-21 NIV) Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. {21} But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

[21:02] <MarvBMar> Muslims choose their darkness & reject Christ

[21:02] <MarvBMar> & they do evil in the name of their god

[21:03] <MarvBMar> I am sorry Bob ... strke it from the log

[21:03] <MarvBMar> strike

[21:03] <MarvBMar> delete

[21:03] <CJ-Seeker> The choice is the same for the whole world..matters not what the Religious background is..we either choose Light or darkness.

[21:03] <BobWestbrook> Why, Marion? It's true

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[21:04] <BobWestbrook> Right, Seeker

[21:04] <Bezalel3> wb Gloria

[21:04] <tryChrist> Amen to that

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[21:04] <BobWestbrook> OK, how is next to step up to the mike? :)

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[21:04] <BobWestbrook> who is next

[21:04] <Netia19> Amen here to thta also

[21:05] <Gloria1947393> got kicked off I guess

[21:05] <CJ-Seeker> wb Gloria

[21:05] <tryChrist> Hate the sin - Love the sinner

[21:05] <MarvBMar> I am back I think!!!!!!

[21:05] <CJ-Seeker> Nice name by the way Gloria..also my mothers name :)

[21:05] <BobWestbrook> Here's an article from WorldNetDaily, analysis from Geostrategy-Direct

[21:05] <Netia19> yes you are

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT INTELLIGENCE BRIEF

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Hezbollah preparing chemical weapons?

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Evidence of cooperation with al-Qaida on rockets in Lebanon

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Posted: April 25, 2002

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> 5:00 p.m. Eastern

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Editor's note: WorldNetDaily brings readers exclusive, up-to-the-minute global intelligence news and analysis from Geostrategy-Direct, a new online newsletter edited by veteran journalist Robert Morton and featuring the "Backgrounder" column compiled by Bill Gertz. Geostrategy-Direct is a subscription-based service produced by the publishers of WorldTribune.com, a free news service frequently linked by the editors of WorldNetDaily.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Western intelligence sources said Israel and the United States have been monitoring Lebanon for evidence that Islamic insurgents have been storing weapons of mass destruction.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> The sources said the evidence is not conclusive, but that both countries suspect that al-Qaida and Hezbollah are cooperating in the transfer and storage of chemical weapons.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> oops

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> sorry, not sure how all that got pasted :)

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> Western intelligence sources said Israel and the United States have been monitoring Lebanon for evidence that Islamic insurgents have been storing weapons of mass destruction.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> The sources said the evidence is not conclusive, but that both countries suspect that al-Qaida and Hezbollah are cooperating in the transfer and storage of chemical weapons.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> The sources said the nonconventional weapons are believed stored in two locations in Lebanon. Both of the locations are along the Mediterranean coast near Beirut.

[21:06] <BobWestbrook> The sources said al-Qaida and Hezbollah – with help of Iranian agents – are believed to be experimenting with weaponizing surface-to-surface rockets with chemical warheads. Hezbollah has some 10,000 rockets, a quarter of them believed to be the Iranian Fajr-5, with a range of 70 kilometers

[21:07] <BobWestbrook> The evidence of chemical warheads in Lebanon has prompted harsh warnings by Washington to Lebanon. The sources said Lebanese President Emile Lahoud was shown evidence during his Washington visit last week that Iran was helping Hezbollah deploy rockets throughout southern and eastern Lebanon.

[21:07] <BobWestbrook> The focus of the Iranian missile help is the Imam Ali military base in the Bekaa Valley near the Syrian border. The sources said Iran virtually controls much of the Bekaa Valley, to the increasing consternation of Syrian military officers.

[21:07] <BobWestbrook> OK, that's all - you can talk now :)

[21:07] <CJ-Seeker> This kind of story just goes on and on and on doesn't it

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[21:08] <Netia19> no Bob yiou are doing so well

[21:08] <tryChrist> I must be off. 5am is coming quickly.....

[21:08] <CJ-Seeker> Ok Miller

[21:08] <tryChrist> I certainly enjoyed it, again. thanks Bob.

[21:08] <CJ-Seeker> see ya

[21:08] <BobWestbrook> See ya Miller - always good to ahve you with us!

[21:08] <Netia19> God bless you miller

[21:08] <Bezalel3> Night, Miller, God Bless.

[21:09] <MarvBMar> Shalom Miller

[21:09] <BobWestbrook> Yes, it does go on and on, but it will come to an abrupt and violent and, I fear

[21:09] <tryChrist> be blessed in His word people, and in all things, focus on truth and let His ways be done in all that is

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[21:09] <CJ-Seeker> yes..one way or another Bob

[21:09] <Gloria1947393> God Bless Miller good night

[21:09] <Bezalel3> Did you see the article in WND about Stephanopolous' sister, Bob?

[21:10] <BobWestbrook> No, I didn't Bez

[21:10] <MarvBMar> who is he Bez

[21:10] <BobWestbrook> But I applaud your attempt at spelling his name :)

[21:10] <CJ-Seeker> George

[21:10] <CJ-Seeker> he was an advisor to Clinton

[21:10] <MarvBMar> oh you mean Clintons man

[21:10] <Bezalel3> She's a Mother in the PA. Been sending e-mails passing on the Palestinian horror stories.....

[21:10] <CJ-Seeker> snofaloffigus

[21:10] <Bezalel3> Yeah, George.

[21:11] <MarvBMar> no kidding

[21:11] <BobWestbrook> what do you mean, a mother in the PA?

[21:11] <Bezalel3> That's a muppet, Seeker.

[21:11] <CJ-Seeker> oh sorry :)

[21:11] <Bezalel3> A Catholic sister/Mother.....

[21:11] <MarvBMar> like miss piggy??>

[21:11] <BobWestbrook> ah, ok

[21:11] <CJ-Seeker> oink oink

[21:11] <Bezalel3> She heads a group of nuns in a PA town.

[21:12] <BobWestbrook> interesting

[21:12] <MarvBMar> Then how can she tell a plo story

[21:12] <CJ-Seeker> no biased there huh Bez

[21:12] <BobWestbrook> well, if she's smart, she'll get out of there soon

[21:12] <MarvBMar> she should at least be nutral

[21:12] <Bezalel3> WASHINGTON -- "I'm not spreading propaganda," George Stephanopoulos' orthodox-nun sister vows, but Israeli soldiers last week "defecated" on the floors of a West Bank medical clinic they raided.

[21:12] <Bezalel3> They're also looting Palestinians' homes there, claims Sister Maria Stephanopoulos, a nun at the Convent of St. Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.

[21:12] <Bezalel3> A Russian Orthodox Christian (who changed from Greek Orthodox), Stephanopoulos runs a school for Palestinian girls there, and is pleading with priests here, via e-mail, to "get on the phone and ask your congressman and senators why the United States government is backing this invasion of Israeli forces into sovereign (Palestinian) areas, (and) why so many innocent civilians are being terrorized."

[21:13] <Bezalel3> Here's the link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27387

[21:13] <BobWestbrook> interesting

[21:13] <MarvBMar> some how that doesn't seem like what a jew would do

[21:14] <BobWestbrook> It's a tragedy how far from Christian many of the so-called "Christians" in the Middle East are, or in the world for that matter

[21:14] <Bezalel3> The "defacating" on the floors reminded me of being in the shipyard with a ship. The yard workers did it in the berthing areas, but, it wasn't considered a human rights violation.

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[21:14] <Gloria1947393> Israel gets it from all sides

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[21:14] <MarvBMar> she didn't mention the looting that the gunmen are doing in the Church of the Nativity though

[21:15] <BobWestbrook> We will see, I think, a sharpening of the distinction between the believers who stand for Israel and the nominal Christians, who deny the authority of God's word, who stand against Israel

[21:15] <Bezalel3> All of her information came from Palestinians. She didn't witness a bit of it.

[21:15] <BobWestbrook> Yes, and reliable witnesses they are, huh

[21:16] <Netia19245> then how can she say these untruths

[21:16] <Bezalel3> Oh, yeah, the Palestinians are so reliable....:-)

[21:16] <MarvBMar> many will say Lord. Lord & I will say I knew them not!!!!

[21:16] <BobWestbrook> Right, Marion

[21:16] <Bezalel3> An e-mail she sent 10 days ago about Israeli soldiers raping Palestinian girls was later deemed apocryphal, one priest who saw it told WorldNetDaily. Stephanopoulos was the victim of a Palestinian boy's e-mail hoax.

[21:16] <Netia19245> way to go Miller

[21:16] <Bezalel3> More from the article

[21:16] <CJ-Seeker> that brings it right down to the persoanal level huh Marion

[21:17] <BobWestbrook> It's interesting, if you read about the Israeli military doctrine, is that they hold strictly to a concept of "purity of arms" in a manner that the armies of no other nations do

[21:17] <MarvBMar> yes seeker we need to live our faith

[21:18] <BobWestbrook> they do a lot of soul-searching to ensure that the military actions they take fit into this doctrine

[21:18] <Netia19245> Praise God they do

[21:18] <BobWestbrook> of course, there are always isolated incidents of abuses of power, as in any army or police force

[21:18] <Bezalel3> And, then, when they ask for military personnel in the UN mission, they get accused of "covering up"

[21:18] <MarvBMar> When would they have time for rape with all those pasistinians all over the place

[21:19] <BobWestbrook> But you see, this kind of catastrophe is exactly what Arafat has wanted - many people don't realize that

[21:19] <CJ-Seeker> I hadn't heard they were accused of that Marion..But it doesn't surprise me they were

[21:19] <BobWestbrook> he has wanted to provoke a harsh response from Israel

[21:20] <BobWestbrook> so that, he can whine and cry about the need for an international force, this has been his goal

[21:20] <MarvBMar> I had not either seeker. Just responding to what Bez said

[21:20] <CJ-Seeker> oh

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[21:21] <MarvBMar> well if there is to be an international force it should be in the center of the plo to monitor them

[21:21] <CJ-Seeker> question: remember when Arafat had the plane crash and he suffered a head wond and nearly died...any significance there?

[21:22] <MarvBMar> seeker when I saw him the last time I thought that also . he seemed a little out of it

[21:22] <BobWestbrook> As far as Biblical significance? probably not, he doesn't fit the charactistics of the "beast" though he is beastly enough

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[21:22] <Gloria1947393> I didn't know he was in a plane crash

[21:22] <BobWestbrook> Yes, Marion, there are reports he's losing it mentally

[21:22] <Netia19245> Ian sorry but i need to go God bless each and erey one of you and may he bless yoir BA

[21:22] <Bezalel3> Hi, rich.

[21:22] <CJ-Seeker> Just trying to start something...:)

[21:22] <MarvBMar> oh no seeker I do not think he is the antichrist

[21:22] <Rich_31> 7hello Bez

[21:22] <Bezalel3> Night, Karen, God Bless.

[21:23] <CJ-Seeker> Hi Rich..and Night Karen

[21:23] <Rich_31> 7hi Bob

[21:23] <Rich_31> 7Seeker hello

[21:23] <Netia19245> beBeloved ISREAL

[21:23] <BobWestbrook> That man should have died 20 times already, but in a sense he is God's chosen vessel, in the same way that Pharoah was

[21:23] <Rich_31> 7hello Marion

[21:23] <BobWestbrook> See ya Netia! God bless you!

[21:23] <Rich_31> 7hi Gloria

[21:23] <BobWestbrook> Welcome, Rich!

[21:23] <MarvBMar> God bless you netia

[21:23] <CJ-Seeker> I don't either Marion..But some have said he is and use this as theire reasonoing

[21:23] <Rich_31> 7good to be here Bob

[21:24] <Bezalel3> Amen, Bob....I've held that belief for awhile, now.

[21:24] <Netia19245> YES YOU willl

[21:24] <BobWestbrook> In reading Joshua the other day, I came across a chilling verse

[21:24] <MarvBMar> Rich!!!!!!!!!!!!! shalom

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[21:24] <Rich_31> 7ho Netia

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[21:24] <Rich_31> 7hi

[21:24] <BobWestbrook> (Joshua 11:20 NIV) For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

[21:24] <CJ-Seeker> warm us up Bob

[21:24] <Rich_31> 7good to see ya Marion

[21:24] <Gloria1947393> hi rich

[21:25] <CJ-Seeker> Rich..just in time..Bob is getting his second wind

[21:25] <MarvBMar> He is an evil one for sure but not The evil one

[21:25] <Rich_31> 7good

[21:25] <Rich_31> 7can't use this keybouad I guess

[21:25] <Rich_31> 7board

[21:26] <BobWestbrook> What do you think about that verse in Joshua?

[21:26] <CJ-Seeker> Here, try mine

[21:26] <Rich_31> 7thanks seeker I will

[21:26] <Rich_31> 7LOL

[21:26] <CJ-Seeker> What is the full context Bob?

[21:26] <Gloria1947393> God is always in charge

[21:26] <MarvBMar> I think it fits here for the plo too

[21:27] <BobWestbrook> The context is the campaign of conquest led by Joshua to take the land that God had promised to Israel

[21:27] <Gloria1947393> God don't change

[21:27] <BobWestbrook> (Joshua 11:23 NIV) So Joshua took the entire land, just as the LORD had directed Moses, and he gave it as an inheritance to Israel according to their tribal divisions. Then the land had rest from war.

[21:27] <Bezalel3> Deuteronomy 20

[21:27] <Bezalel3> 9 When the officers have finished speaking to the army, they shall appoint commanders over it.

[21:28] <Bezalel3> 10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you.

[21:28] <MarvBMar> tonight on cnn there was an interview with a muslim leader & he said the jews forget that God gave the land to abrahams children & ismael is one

[21:28] <MarvBMar> of course he didn't mention that Ishmael got his inheritance

[21:28] <Rich_31> 7not the land of canaan though marion

[21:28] <BobWestbrook> Well, Marion, that's partially true, but Ishmael's children have HUGE amounts of land already, much more than Israel

[21:29] <MarvBMar> ]I know Rich

[21:29] <MarvBMar> & much wealth in oil

[21:29] <BobWestbrook> what is the figure, 1000 times the land that Israel has? something like that

[21:29] <Rich_31> 7arabs are wrong huh

[21:29] <BobWestbrook> But Israel will get all that wealth in the end

[21:29] <Bezalel3> But, no room for the "Palestinians"

[21:29] <Rich_31> 7yep

[21:29] <MarvBMar> Israel is just the size of New Jersey

[21:30] <CJ-Seeker> Oops..got a phone call so better go...Don't forget Bible Study tomorrow night at 8PM CDT ...Studying the book of Hebrews....God Bless ya all

[21:30] <BobWestbrook> Good reference, Bez, thanks

[21:30] <MarvBMar> but rich, they get the lies & half truths out there

[21:30] <Bezalel3> Night, Allyn

[21:30] <BobWestbrook> See ya Allyn! Good night! :)

[21:30] <Rich_31> 7night Seeker and God Bless you too

[21:30] <MarvBMar> night seeker

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[21:31] <Rich_31> 7they do Marion but that is what the worldwants to think anyway

[21:31] <Gloria1947393> God Bless nite Seeker

[21:31] <Bezalel3> nations nearby.

[21:31] <Bezalel3> That's the rest of it, Bob.

[21:31] <BobWestbrook> Did you all see my notice about the Judeo-Christian Zionist Congress in Long Island May 9-11 - anyone going?

[21:31] <MarvBMar> these little interviews on CNN are short & they get cut off before the truth gets out

[21:31] <Rich_31> 7seen it Bob can't go wish I could

[21:32] <Bezalel3> I saw it also, Bob, but regretfully can't go.

[21:32] <BobWestbrook> I like Alan Keyes on Fox - the other night, he gave the smart-aleck Arab girl spokesperson a real lesson on "historical Palestine" - it was a gem

[21:32] <MarvBMar> Long Island is still a long way from Potsdam

[21:32] <BobWestbrook> Not that far, Marion :)

[21:32] <MarvBMar> I wish I had seen it

[21:32] <Rich_31> 7seen that one too Bob it was real good

[21:32] <MarvBMar> I don't get fox

[21:33] <Bezalel3> I saw Alan Keyes turn off the mike of a PA supporter, it was great.

[21:33] <BobWestbrook> :)

[21:33] <BobWestbrook> He cuts their lies to shreds with the truth

[21:33] <Rich_31> 7Keys is quite smart

[21:33] <MarvBMar> what will transpire at the conference

[21:33] <Bezalel3> Yes, and he's consistent in his opinions.

[21:34] <BobWestbrook> Well, there are going to be several excellent speakers, Christians and Jews

[21:34] <Rich_31> 7he says what he knows is truth huh Bez

[21:34] <BobWestbrook> it's going to be rebroadcast on the Sky Angel network

[21:34] <BobWestbrook> and I'll be there with my camera :)

[21:34] <MarvBMar> on angel One

[21:35] <MarvBMar> I have dish & only get angel one

[21:35] <Rich_31> 7going to some scanning after words Bob

[21:35] <MarvBMar> usually they do not run those on ONE

[21:35] <Bezalel3> You going to post pictures at Trumpet Sounds, Bob?

[21:35] <BobWestbrook> sure, that's a good idea, Bez

[21:35] <MarvBMar> relly Bob? you are going

[21:36] <BobWestbrook> Yes

[21:36] <MarvBMar> how do I get there?

[21:36] <BobWestbrook> The other news today, was the farce of a "trial" for the killers (some of them) of Tourism Minister Ze'evi

[21:36] <MarvBMar> do I need to register?

[21:36] <BobWestbrook> To Long Island? Go to Rochester and take a right :)

[21:37] <MarvBMar> yes that is a farce

[21:37] <Bezalel3> Too bad they didn't execute the accused after the trial.

[21:37] <BobWestbrook> Yes, the link is on my website to the page for the conference

[21:37] <Bezalel3> Like they do to collaborators.

[21:37] <MarvBMar> hehehehe you haven't been in upstate NY for a long time I can tell

[21:37] <BobWestbrook> LOL

[21:37] <MarvBMar> right Bez

[21:38] <MarvBMar> I will look later

[21:38] <MarvBMar> how long is the conference

[21:38] <BobWestbrook> May 9-11 - Thursday night though Sat afternoon

[21:39] <Rich_31> 7I can't keep my eyes open much longer folks better get to bed God Bless you all night

[21:39] <MarvBMar> who will be speaking

[21:39] <Bezalel3> Night, Rich, God Bless.

[21:39] <MarvBMar> God bless Ricg

[21:40] <MarvBMar> Rich

[21:40] <BobWestbrook> Night Rich, thanks for your presence here as always!

[21:40] <Rich_31> 7wish I could stay longer Bob and all but quite tired LOve you all

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[21:41] <MarvBMar> May the Lord give you perfect rest

[21:42] <Bezalel3> The Palestinians are starting to trickle out of the church of the Nativity.

[21:42] <Gloria1947393> God Bless Rich good nite ,God Bless you all I will say good night to all ,this has been a Blessing

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[21:42] <Bezalel3> Night, Gloria, God Bless.

[21:42] <BobWestbrook> Yes, and the silence in the press about the hostages being held there is typical

[21:42] <MarvBMar> how come they don't take refuge & hide in their own mosque

[21:42] <Bezalel3> Not counting the lack of reports on destruction and defamation inside.

[21:43] <MarvBMar> yes Bez I heard that too

[21:44] <MarvBMar> why would they take children hostage? for human shields?

[21:44] <BobWestbrook> Well, Marion, perhaps because they intend to inflame the "Christian" world against Israel - not this Christian world, but the other side who hates Israel anyway

[21:45] <MarvBMar> hummmm

[21:45] <BobWestbrook> The denominational churches are buzzing with outrage against Israel

[21:45] <Bezalel3> Like Mother Maria (Stephanopolous)?

[21:45] <BobWestbrook> right

[21:45] <MarvBMar> they are doing a good job by the way the UN is acting

[21:46] <MarvBMar> then you have the guy from NY with the palistinian girl friend.......

[21:46] <Bezalel3> Oh, yeah, Shapiro. And he can't figure out why the NY Jews are upset with him.

[21:46] <BobWestbrook> Arafat sings this tune a lot, he's good at crying about the so-called injustices to Christians, as if he really cares

[21:47] <MarvBMar> he said he is not taking sides but i saw his girlfrien denouncing Israel & inciting a crowd & he was right there

[21:47] <Bezalel3> The PA lies make statistics look like pikers...:-)

[21:47] <BobWestbrook> Ah, well, time for a Psalm to give us some perspective :)

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> Psalm 94

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> It is good to praise the LORD and make music to your name, O Most High,

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> 2 to proclaim your love in the morning and your faithfulness at night,

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> 3 to the music of the ten-stringed lyre and the melody of the harp.

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> 4 For you make me glad by your deeds, O LORD; I sing for joy at the works of your hands.

[21:48] <MarvBMar> just like hollaring Massacare!!

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> How great are your works, O LORD, how profound your thoughts!

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> The senseless man does not know, fools do not understand,

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> 7 that though the wicked spring up like grass and all evildoers flourish, they will be forever destroyed.

[21:48] <MarvBMar> & Psalm 91 too

[21:48] <BobWestbrook> But you, O LORD, are exalted forever.

[21:49] <BobWestbrook> For surely your enemies, O LORD, surely your enemies will perish; all evildoers will be scattered.

[21:49] <BobWestbrook> You have exalted my horn like that of a wild ox; fine oils have been poured upon me.

[21:49] <BobWestbrook> My eyes have seen the defeat of my adversaries; my ears have heard the rout of my wicked foes.

[21:49] <BobWestbrook> The righteous will flourish like a palm tree, they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon;

[21:49] <BobWestbrook> 13 planted in the house of the LORD, they will flourish in the courts of our God.

[21:50] <BobWestbrook> They will still bear fruit in old age, they will stay fresh and green,

[21:50] <BobWestbrook> 15 proclaiming, "The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him."

[21:50] <BobWestbrook> The End :)

[21:50] <Bezalel3> Psalm 91

[21:50] <MarvBMar> For the Lord is great, & greatly to be praised

[21:50] <Bezalel3> 1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High

[21:50] <Bezalel3> will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. [1]

[21:50] <Bezalel3> 2 I will say [2] of the Lord , "He is my refuge and my fortress,

[21:50] <Bezalel3> my God, in whom I trust."

[21:50] <Bezalel3> That's yours, Marion.

[21:51] <BobWestbrook> :)

[21:51] <MarvBMar> thanks Bez

[21:51] <BobWestbrook> The Word of God is always like a refreshing stream

[21:51] <MarvBMar> I like it all but v14 is good

[21:51] <Bezalel3> 14 "Because he loves me," says the Lord , "I will rescue him;

[21:51] <Bezalel3> I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

[21:51] <BobWestbrook> "stay fresh and green" - like Gran :)

[21:52] <Bezalel3> Amen

[21:52] <MarvBMar> :-)

[21:52] <MarvBMar> Gran will like that

[21:52] <BobWestbrook> Yes, that's wonderful Bez

[21:52] <MarvBMar> how old is Gran?

[21:53] <Bezalel3> Believe she's in her 70's.....but I didn't tell you if she asks.

[21:53] <BobWestbrook> Primarily, that's the Father talking about His Son, but it also applies to us who love the Father and the Son

[21:53] <MarvBMar> :->

[21:53] <MarvBMar> v14?

[21:54] <MarvBMar> or fresh & green

[21:54] <BobWestbrook> this one:

[21:54] <BobWestbrook> (Psalms 91:14-16 NIV) "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. {15} He will call upon me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. {16} With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation."

[21:54] <BobWestbrook> Bez's verse 14 :0

[21:54] <BobWestbrook> :)

[21:55] <BobWestbrook> We know it's talking about the Son, because of the verses before it

[21:55] <BobWestbrook> (Psalms 91:11-13 NIV) For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; {12} they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. {13} You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

[21:55] <BobWestbrook> Even Satan knew this, he quoted this to Jesus

[21:56] <Bezalel3> Psalm 91:1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High

[21:56] <Bezalel3> will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.

[21:56] <BobWestbrook> Yes, by extension, it refers to all of us who rest in His shadow

[21:57] <MarvBMar> that is what I think

[21:57] <MarvBMar> all because of Jesus!

[21:57] <Bezalel3> That's why the Son came in human form, wasn't it. To deliver this salvation.

[21:57] <BobWestbrook> Right, to deliver this salvation

[21:58] <BobWestbrook> And the word "salvation" has a two-fold meaning, referring to aspects of both of His comings

[21:58] <Bezalel3> We are so blessed to live in a time when these prophesies are being fulfilled.

[21:58] <BobWestbrook> Yes, indeed

[21:59] <BobWestbrook> For example:

[21:59] <MarvBMar> amen

[21:59] <Bezalel3> Even though we will face the trials and tribulations, we are blessed to be witnesses to His power.

[21:59] <BobWestbrook> (Psalms 14:7 NIV) Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion! When the LORD restores the fortunes of his people, let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!

[22:00] <BobWestbrook> (Psalms 98:1-2 NIV) A psalm. Sing to the LORD a new song, for he has done marvelous things; his right hand and his holy arm have worked salvation for him. {2} The LORD has made his salvation known and revealed his righteousness to the nations.

[22:00] <Bezalel3> And He has given us strength, through His Word, to face the trials.

[22:00] <BobWestbrook> (Psalms 98:3 NIV) He has remembered his love and his faithfulness to the house of Israel; all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

[22:00] <BobWestbrook> Yes, and we sure need it Bez

[22:00] <Bezalel3> Amen.

[22:01] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 25:9 NIV) In that day they will say, "Surely this is our God; we trusted in him, and he saved us. This is the LORD, we trusted in him; let us rejoice and be glad in his salvation."

[22:01] <MarvBMar> a good promise of Israel's salvation

[22:02] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 46:13 NIV) I am bringing my righteousness near, it is not far away; and my salvation will not be delayed. I will grant salvation to Zion, my splendor to Israel.

[22:02] <Bezalel3> Breathing the Spirit into the reassembled body of Israel.

[22:02] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 51:5-6 NIV) My righteousness draws near speedily, my salvation is on the way, and my arm will bring justice to the nations. The islands will look to me and wait in hope for my arm. {6} Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies. But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.

[22:02] <Bezalel3> See, I do pay attention, Bob. Ezekiel 37.

[22:03] <BobWestbrook> :)

[22:03] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 52:7-8 NIV) How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!" {8} Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices; together they shout for joy. When the LORD returns to Zion, they will see it with their own eyes.

[22:04] <Bezalel3> Hallelujah, amen........!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:04] <BobWestbrook> Hallelujah!

[22:04] <Bezalel3> or better yet, HALLELUJAH....AMEN!!!!!! to shout.

[22:04] <MarvBMar> amen

[22:04] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 52:9-10 NIV) Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem, for the LORD has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem. {10} The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God.

[22:05] <MarvBMar> hallia

[22:05] <MarvBMar> or something like that

[22:05] <BobWestbrook> OK, on that jubilant note, I'll take my leave for tonight :)

[22:05] <Bezalel3> Bare His arm.....that's pretty determined, and awe-inspiring.

[22:05] <BobWestbrook> Yes, indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:05] <MarvBMar> no uncertain terms!!!!!!!

[22:06] <BobWestbrook> And that expression is a Messianic one as well

[22:06] <Bezalel3> 0,2: 8,2·0,2 \× : 0,2Good Night0,2 0,2:×\:×: 8,2·0,2: 0 0,2 0,2: 8,2·0,2 \× : 0,2Sweet Dreams0,2 0,2:×\:×:

[22:06] <BobWestbrook> (Isaiah 53:1 NIV) Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

[22:06] <MarvBMar> Good night Bob God bless you

[22:06] <BobWestbrook> Good night, Bez and Marion! Thanks for the joy fest :)

[22:07] <MarvBMar> Good night Bez Blessings on you both

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