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[19:50] <VCI-Bob> Hi there Kathy!!!

[19:51] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Bob

[19:51] <Kathy-VHL> I was cruising lol

[19:52] <Kathy-VHL> how are you

[19:52] <VCI-Bob> I'm doing well, thank you! :)

[19:52] <Kathy-VHL> did you get my email

[19:52] <VCI-Bob> Which one? I get a lot of them - refresh my memory, please

[19:52] <Kathy-VHL> about the false teachings

[19:53] <VCI-Bob> yes, I did get it - thanks

[19:53] <Kathy-VHL> amazing isn

[19:53] <Kathy-VHL> it

[19:53] <VCI-Bob> yes, and no - we'll see a lot more of this kind of thing, and worse

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> I was in another chat room the other night where there are a lot of youth and this older man in there was promoting that docrtine about Christ being birth into man

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> calling it the mystery revealed from the biginning

[19:54] <VCI-Bob> yes, it sounds so "Christian" and attractive - to our human desire for our own glory

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> yes

[19:54] <VCI-Bob> we can all be gods

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> so misleading

[19:55] <Kathy-VHL> so suttle too

[19:55] <VCI-Bob> yes, very

[19:55] <Kathy-VHL> and the youth are not grounded in the word so it is easy for them to fall prey

[19:55] <VCI-Bob> that's true - I guess we need to all be emphasizing to our young friend the importance of knowing the Word of God, huh?

[19:56] <Kathy-VHL> even for most christians to fall for it because even when you take them to task you have to keep them on one topic to get to the real meaning

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> now more than ever

[19:56] <Kathy-VHL> they will skip very quickly to not let you have time to really look at what they are saying

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> yes, like most false teachers, they mix in a lot of things that sound right

[19:57] <Kathy-VHL> it sounds to me like there is a lot of Mormon in this new one

[19:57] <VCI-Bob> it sounds Mormon-like, yes

[19:57] <Kathy-VHL> have you heard anything about what they are saying in regard to the new generation of children mixed with aliens

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> not specifically, no, but I expect that kind of thing will happen - genetic bioengineering mixed in with occult practices in an attempt to generate a new divine race

[19:59] <Kathy-VHL> so much way out stuff and even in our military with them teaching forward viewing stuff hae you heard about that

[20:00] <VCI-Bob> no, what is that?

[20:00] <Kathy-VHL> it is where they teach people to be able to put themselves in the present mind of another

[20:01] <Kathy-VHL> It is like esp somewhat

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> scary stuff huh

[20:01] <Kathy-VHL> yes and they are teaching it in the military i will get links for you

[20:01] <Kathy-VHL> it is all demonic

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> there are all kinds of things like that being promoted in corporate and government circles

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> yes, it is

[20:01] <Kathy-VHL> and comes from that man who was in the military who was a satanist friend of Levey

[20:02] <Kathy-VHL> He was promoting all that satanic stuff in the military

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> It's going to happen, like in the days of Noah

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> an explosion of evil

[20:03] <Kathy-VHL> it is everywhere you turn now

[20:03] <Kathy-VHL> yes

[20:03] <Kathy-VHL> and there was a lot of demonic stuff then too only it is not spoken of very clearly

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> I know - flipping through the TV channels, one encounters occult shows of various kinds

[20:03] <Kathy-VHL> God didnt give much time to the subject at that time

[20:04] <Kathy-VHL> I think that is indication for us not to give to much attention to it but to know about it and leave it alone

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> no, but He didn't mince words either

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[20:04] <Kathy-VHL> that is very true

[20:04] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Jael

[20:05] <jael-VHL> hello

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. (Genesis 6:5 NIV)

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. (Genesis 6:6 NIV)

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Hi Jael!

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[20:05] <Kathy-VHL> that says it Bob

[20:05] <jael-VHL> howdy bob!

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> How's my favorite hammer wielding lady? :)

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Hi there Michael!

[20:05] <jael-VHL> 6just dandy

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> Great!

[20:06] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hi bob

[20:06] <Kathy-VHL> hi michael

[20:06] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hi kat

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> How ya doin, Michael?

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[20:06] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Jim!

[20:06] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Jim

[20:06] <michaelm6-VHL> 4good, finally finished football

[20:06] <jael-VHL> 6what are we talking about tonight?

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Yeah? How did they do in the playoffs, Michael?

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> (he's a high school football coach)

[20:07] <jim-VHL> 3hi cathy and god bless you

[20:07] <Kathy-VHL> yes I figured lol

[20:07] <Kathy-VHL> what part of the country

[20:07] <michaelm6-VHL> 4we made it to the second round, an got upset last week in a mud bath

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Not much yet, Jael - a little about Noah's time and the explosion of evil now

[20:07] <Kathy-VHL> our team did the same Michael

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> oh my, Michael - but those "mud bath" games are fun :)

[20:08] <jael-VHL> 6aaaahhhhh, i see

[20:08] <michaelm6-VHL> 4yes they are, but not this one

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> tough on an offense-oriented team

[20:08] <jim-VHL> 3welcome and thankyou bob

[20:08] <michaelm6-VHL> 4the good thing is that we have almost all our kids comming back

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> :)

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> OK, does anyone have anything on their mind to discuss tonight?

[20:09] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i noticed something the other day

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> yes?

[20:09] <michaelm6-VHL> 4in genesis

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> tell us

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[20:09] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Bez!

[20:09] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i always wondered how enoch knew about God

[20:10] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i started adding

[20:10] <Bezalel-VHL> Good evening, all!

[20:10] <VCI-Bob> uh huh?

[20:10] <michaelm6-VHL> 4and i figured that adam was still alive when enoch was born

[20:10] <jael-VHL> 6hey bez!

[20:10] <Kathy-VHL> Bob it seems that there is something in the Patience of God for this time for so much is coming against His people and He has not stood up yet

[20:10] <VCI-Bob> Wow - yes, makes sense, because they all lived so long, huh

[20:10] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i just noticed that

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> That's interesting, Michael!

[20:11] <jael-VHL> 6i had a thought......

[20:11] <michaelm6-VHL> 4they actually lived nearly 300 years together

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Kathy, God's patience is incredible - I can bear witness to that myself

[20:11] <jael-VHL> 6(that's pretty cool, michael)

[20:11] <michaelm6-VHL> 4so i figure thats why he knew so much about God

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> And if I remember correctly Michael, he died not long before the flood, right?

[20:11] <jael-VHL> 6my thought was this...now don't get mad at me

[20:12] <VCI-Bob> Go for it, Jael :) we won't throw anything

[20:12] <michaelm6-VHL> 4yes,

[20:12] <michaelm6-VHL> 4noah was 500 when he built it and 600 hundresd at the flood

[20:12] <Bezalel-VHL> Just a few pointed barbs, Bob.

[20:12] <jael-VHL> 6if al gore wins, it would benefit the church far more than if g.w.bush wins

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Michael, and Enoch is a great example to us of a man who sought the Lord and single-mindedly wanted only to know Him

[20:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I tend to agree with you Jael.

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael?

[20:13] <michaelm6-VHL> 4thats how i noticed it, i wanted to see if adam was still alive during the flood, he wasn

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[20:13] <jael-VHL> 6persecution might come and the church always thrives when under real pressure

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> That's quite interesting, Michael - thanks for sharing that

[20:13] <Gloria-VHL> Hello and God Bless

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> Hi there Gloria!

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> Good point, Jael!

[20:13] <michaelm6-VHL> 4tie in, Enoch is one of the possible end time prophet isn't he

[20:14] <VCI-Bob> Possibly, yes, Michael

[20:14] <michaelm6-VHL> 4good point jael

[20:14] <VCI-Bob> Did you know that Enoch gives us the earliest recorded prophecy about the second coming of Jesus?

[20:15] <Kathy-VHL> yes the church turns to God in the hard times and realizes her need then more than other times

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> It's not cited until the book of Jude, but it's from Enoch

[20:15] <Kathy-VHL> didnt know that Bob

[20:15] <michaelm6-VHL> 4no i didn't

[20:15] <jael-VHL> 6we might breath easier if g.w.b. wins....but BOY will we really learn to pray and persevere the other way....THEN...what if hillary runs and wins? oijvey!!!!

[20:15] <Gloria-VHL> no hows thatBob

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> Jael, I think persecution is coming regardless

[20:15] <jael-VHL> 6yeh, i think america's cup is full

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." (Jude 1:14-15 NIV)

[20:16] <Kathy-VHL> what men Bob

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> False teachers who are in the church, Kathy

[20:17] <Kathy-VHL> deciples

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. (Jude 1:4 NIV)

[20:17] <jael-VHL> 6holy ones are the redeemed after the rapture...right?

[20:17] <Kathy-VHL> ok thanks didnt want to look up the content for context

[20:18] <jael-VHL> 6the thousands

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jude was so worked up about these men that he changed the subject of his letter at the last minute - he wanted to write about the blessings of salvation, but was so perturbed about the false teachers

[20:18] <Kathy-VHL> isnt it the believers old and new Test

[20:19] <Kathy-VHL> good subject for out time Bob

[20:19] <Kathy-VHL> just like what we were discussing earlier

[20:19] <jael-VHL> 6true kathy!!

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Well, Jael, I think that the thousands upon thousands includes US - the armies of heaven following Him

[20:19] <jael-VHL> 6(although i wasn't here earlier)

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> yes

[20:19] <Kathy-VHL> we need to be watchers for the false teachers so we can tell others

[20:20] <VCI-Bob> right

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[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> and it says they will come right

[20:20] <jael-VHL> 6cool!!! what a day that will be!!!! saddle me up a horse!!:-)

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> because it speaks of the Lord coming against them with the many

[20:20] <VCI-Bob> yes, Paul and the others make a special point of telling us

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> Yeehaw Jael!

[20:21] <jael-VHL> 6:-)

[20:21] <Kathy-VHL> Jael Im gona be wearin a weddin dress lol

[20:21] <jael-VHL> 6the cool thing is a heavenly steed won't throw me off!!

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> He's got one with your name on it waiting :)

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> righto!

[20:22] <jael-VHL> 6oh man...me too!! and combat boots!!

[20:22] <Kathy-VHL> lol

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> Hard to ride a horse with a wedding dress on :)

[20:22] <Kathy-VHL> we sure are gona be lookin good lol

[20:22] <jael-VHL> 6it's a special dress bob

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> That's right! Combat boots!

[20:22] <Kathy-VHL> lol

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> A wedding dress with combat boots? Gotta be breaking some major fashion rules there :)

[20:23] <Kathy-VHL> we are going to set a new trend Bob

[20:23] <jael-VHL> 6so...who will care then ?;-)

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> oh, ARE WE EVER!

[20:23] <Kathy-VHL> right lol

[20:23] <Kathy-VHL> I am glad God has a sense of Humor lol

[20:23] <jael-VHL> 6A REVOLUTION

[20:23] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Uh, can I pass on the dress?

[20:23] <jael-VHL> 6me too...

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> LOL Bez

[20:24] <Kathy-VHL> you gona be a bride Bez lol

[20:24] <Bezalel-VHL> 2But, bib overalls may be more fitting for me.

[20:24] <jael-VHL> 6as long as your dressed in white linen...bez, that's what counts

[20:24] <VCI-Bob> Kathy, guys like us prefer to think in military terms - blaze of glory and all that, ya know :)

[20:24] <Bezalel-VHL> 2White linen bib overalls. :-)

[20:24] <Kathy-VHL> well that will be alright Bez lol

[20:25] <jael-VHL> 6there ya go!!!

[20:25] <VCI-Bob> And it will be a blaze of glory, all right - Jesus' glory!!!

[20:25] <jael-VHL> 6HALLEUJAH

[20:25] <Kathy-VHL> Yeah !

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[20:26] <Gloria-VHL> Amen

[20:26] <michaelm6-VHL> 4my daughter just learned how to unlock the door and open it

[20:26] <jael-VHL> 6I GET ALL TEAi get all teary when i really think ...it is coming so soon

[20:27] <Kathy-VHL> I heard an old song yesterday that was so fitting

[20:27] <jael-VHL> 6:->

[20:27] <VCI-Bob> From the west, men will fear the name of the LORD, and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory. For he will come like a pent-up flood that the breath of the LORD drives along. (Isaiah 59:19 NIV)

[20:27] <Kathy-VHL> it is called Right on Time talking about Jesus being right on time

[20:27] <VCI-Bob> Yes, He will be

[20:27] <Bezalel-VHL> 2This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up my banner to the peoples; they will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders. (Isaiah 49:22 NIV)

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> And the glory of the LORD will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of the LORD has spoken." (Isaiah 40:5 NIV)

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> And aren't we glad He did "beckon to the Gentiles" huh Bez!

[20:28] <Kathy-VHL> but there is a lot between now and then

[20:28] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yes, that is nearly my favorite part of Isaiah. :-)

[20:29] <Kathy-VHL> We must be glad and thankful always for that because we would be lost

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> :)

[20:29] <jael-VHL> 6never ever to be arrogant , lest we be cut off!!

[20:30] <VCI-Bob> Yes, some of the people who post in the forums display that kind of arrogance, forgetting that we Gentiles were almost an afterthought, in a sense

[20:31] <jael-VHL> 6has any one ever heard of dr. michael brown?

[20:31] <Kathy-VHL> yes we must remember that it was given first to the Jew then to us

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jael, I have heard his books are excellent

[20:31] <jael-VHL> 6amen

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> have not read any

[20:31] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i haven't

[20:31] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You can call me what you want, just don't call me late to defend Israel.

[20:31] <Kathy-VHL> me either

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> :) Bez

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[20:32] <Kathy-VHL> hi Nina

[20:32] <Nina-VHL> Hello

[20:32] <jael-VHL> 6they are, and he has a tape set out called "all Israel shall be saved" it is highly recommended if you have a heart for Jewish evangelism

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> I was thinking of when God called me back from backsliding.... he did many things to bring me back even when I persisted in my rebellion

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> and the parallel for Israel - though they have not as a group turned back to the Lord, still He is doing things right now to bring them back

[20:32] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i know the feeling bob

[20:32] <Kathy-VHL> yes He is persistant with us Bob

[20:33] <Nina-VHL> me too Bob, God is faithful even when I was a real scandrel

[20:33] <jael-VHL> 6thank God for His mercy and patience...otherwise i'd be pushing up daisies

[20:33] <Kathy-VHL> and I am so glad He is for I am so hard headed sometimes

[20:33] <jael-VHL> 6literally

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> phone call - brb

[20:33] <jael-VHL> 6me too kathy!!

[20:34] <Nina-VHL> How many lost big bucks today in the stock market?

[20:34] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I was a push-over. It only took about 20 years of praying by my in-laws. :-)

[20:34] <Kathy-VHL> It just seems that I cant get it right no matter how much I want to

[20:34] <jael-VHL> 6bez...are you Jewish?

[20:34] <michaelm6-VHL> 4in my wild college, there was always that line that i just couldn't cross

[20:34] <Bezalel-VHL> 2No, jael. Just a Watchman.

[20:35] <jael-VHL> 6cool...keep up the good work!!!

[20:35] <Kathy-VHL> yes Michael I can look back and see where God kept me when I didnt even know it

[20:35] <jael-VHL> 6don't say "just" a wacthman...it's an honored position!!!!

[20:35] <Nina-VHL> me too. I have literally felt invisable at some places. I think God was doing that to protect me from some of the surroundings I was in.

[20:35] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-), Jael

[20:36] <Nina-VHL> Was Stan on Monday nite?

[20:36] <Kathy-VHL> Yes

[20:36] <Kathy-VHL> the log should be posted

[20:37] <Nina-VHL> I must have missed it. I did see where the Palestinians are being insistant about the UN

[20:37] <jael-VHL> 6where does everyone live??

[20:37] <Nina-VHL> Kentucky

[20:37] <Kathy-VHL> SC here

[20:37] <michaelm6-VHL> 4houston

[20:38] <Gloria-VHL> North Carolina

[20:38] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Washington State.

[20:38] <jael-VHL> 6florida, here

[20:38] <Kathy-VHL> Bob is in Fla too

[20:38] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Beware the flying chads, Jael.

[20:38] <jael-VHL> 6and , no, my cad wasn't dimpled!!!

[20:38] <michaelm6-VHL> 4jael, how many times did you vote

[20:38] <michaelm6-VHL> 4 537?

[20:38] <jael-VHL> 6once

[20:38] <Kathy-VHL> lol

[20:38] <Bezalel-VHL> 2That was Milwaukee, Michael.

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> OK, I'm back

[20:39] <Kathy-VHL> I tired to vote a bunch of times but they wouldnt let me lol

[20:39] <jael-VHL> 6????

[20:39] <jael-VHL> 6lol

[20:39] <jael-VHL> 6oh, i got it

[20:39] <Nina-VHL> Bob, have you ever read the book The Pale Horse?

[20:39] <michaelm6-VHL> 4my gandma used to vote early and often

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> No, I haven't, Nina

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> is it good?

[20:39] <Kathy-VHL> lol mine probably did to Michael\

[20:39] <Bezalel-VHL> 2She from Chicago, Michael?

[20:39] <Nina-VHL> It is awesome, written by a man who had high security clearance in the Navy

[20:40] <michaelm6-VHL> 4no texas

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> oh, Nina?

[20:40] <Nina-VHL> Speaks about the Illuminati and the Trilatteral Comm

[20:40] <jael-VHL> 6those were the old days when votes really did count

[20:40] <Nina-VHL> Was published in early 90's

[20:40] <Kathy-VHL> and people could too lol

[20:41] <VCI-Bob> sounds interesting, Nina

[20:41] <Nina-VHL> I just started it last nite and read 100 pages, couldn't put it down.

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> yes it does Nina

[20:41] <Nina-VHL> it is hard to read

[20:41] <jael-VHL> 6hey...did anyone hear about the "mount of evil counsel" in Israel?

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> I wish they had books like that on line

[20:41] <Nina-VHL> No jael, tell us

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> no what is it Jael

[20:41] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael, it's where the UN had it's station

[20:42] <Nina-VHL> Oh my

[20:42] <Kathy-VHL> what kind of station

[20:42] <jael-VHL> 6where all the enemies would gather to make battle plans in attacks against Jerusalem

[20:42] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Will that be their new headquarters?

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> news item from tomorrows Jerusalem Post: JERUSALEM (December 1) - Fatah has called on Palestinians to break through IDF checkpoints today and march to Jerusalem to pray at the Aksa Mosque on the first Friday of the Moslem holy month of Ramadan.

[20:42] <jael-VHL> 6if i weren't pregnant, i'd i'd be fasting real seriously

[20:42] <Kathy-VHL> I thought they could already go there Bob

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> As you know, they have been calling for the Palestinians to do that for several weeks, but now that the olive picking season is over they might rise up in large numbers

[20:43] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Brb, need to start the chili

[20:43] <Nina-VHL> God Bless Jael's baby and Jael. For it is her heart that God looks upon.

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> Yes, and no, Kathy - people outside of Israel proper cannot enter Israel from the

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> "West Bank"

[20:43] <Kathy-VHL> oh

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> there is still closure

[20:43] <jael-VHL> 6i thought it was very interesting that the enemies would sit there to plot...now it's u.n.headquarters!!!

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[20:44] <Nina-VHL> Oh, I didn't realize that Bob

[20:44] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Audra

[20:44] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> Helllo every one!

[20:44] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Helllo every one!

[20:44] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Audra

[20:44] <jael-VHL> 6hi audra

[20:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Back

[20:44] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hi audra

[20:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Audra

[20:45] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3I s every one ready for Christmas??

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> One of the primary strategies for the PLO is to have large numbers of Palestinians converge on the settlements and on Jerusalem in an attempt to overrun them

[20:45] <jael-VHL> 6bez...chili sounds really good!

[20:45] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3I s every one ready for Christmas??

[20:45] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3I s every one ready for Christmas??

[20:45] <michaelm6-VHL> 4yes

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> they feel that it worked effectively in southern Lebanon

[20:45] <michaelm6-VHL> 4yes

[20:45] <jael-VHL> 6with fritos and cheddar cheese

[20:45] <Kathy-VHL> Bob knowing that makes it more understandable about what is going on over there

[20:45] <Nina-VHL> What do you all think about Barak's attemp for peace today?

[20:45] <jael-VHL> 6another weak attempt

[20:46] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3"Hey kathy what is your last name??

[20:46] <Kathy-VHL> Pal said no lol

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> Nina, Barak is grasping at anything that will keep him alive politically

[20:46] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3"Hey kathy what is your last name??

[20:46] <Nina-VHL> Pittiful isn't it

[20:46] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3"Hey kathy what is your last name??

[20:46] <Kathy-VHL> Audra I dont give my last name byt I am not your teacher

[20:46] <jael-VHL> 6why doesn't he get it?

[20:46] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I was thinking of the fritos and cheese, Jael. How did you know? GMTA

[20:46] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i haven't seen anything on isreal in 22 days

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> and many fear that he will draft a horrible agreement in a desperate attempt at political survival.... or, as a lame duck

[20:46] <Nina-VHL> LOL michael CNN did 15 seconds on the Healiner

[20:46] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy???

[20:47] <jael-VHL> 6it's a given with chili!!!:-)

[20:47] <Kathy-VHL> He may try lol

[20:47] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy???

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> Audra, it's not wise to give out last names on the internet

[20:47] <Nina-VHL> I was thinking that Bob

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> though you all know mine LOL

[20:47] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:47] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i thought your first name was vci

[20:47] <jael-VHL> 6if you want good reliable news on israel...go to www.icej.org

[20:47] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:47] <Kathy-VHL> lol Bob could be a psudoname lol

[20:47] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:48] <Nina-VHL> ssshhhh child

[20:48] <VCI-Bob> Right, Michael - almost nothing on the news here, just a few seconds blurb

[20:48] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:48] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:48] <VCI-Bob> Audra, please :)

[20:48] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Please kathy?? Pretty Please With Cherry on top??

[20:48] <Kathy-VHL> Audra we are talking about Jesus so lets not interupt ok

[20:48] <Kathy-VHL> we can talk later if that is ok with you

[20:48] <VCI-Bob> OK, let's just go on :)

[20:48] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Kathy are you you mad at me??

[20:49] <Kathy-VHL> no audra I like you but I want to talk about Jesus right now ok

[20:49] <jael-VHL> 6so...what do you think will happen when they hold their elections in Israel???..recounts?

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> Yeah, Michael, VCI Bob- though as of tomorrow VHL will not be owned by VCI if things proceed

[20:49] <michaelm6-VHL> 4what will happen to it

[20:49] <Kathy-VHL> will the site still be here Bob

[20:50] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Has Stan heard anything?

[20:50] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Are you ready for christmas kathy?

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Jael, it's hard to say what will happen - it seems likely that Netanyahu is going to make his move

[20:50] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Are you ready for christmas kathy?

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> it appears so, Kathy

[20:50] <Nina-VHL> Gore says he won the Canadian election and wants a recount there too.

[20:50] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Are you ready for christmas kathy?

[20:50] <Kathy-VHL> Yes Audra

[20:50] <michaelm6-VHL> 4lol nina

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Bez, as things appear now, Stan will be retained by the new owners

[20:50] <Bezalel-VHL> 2PTL

[20:50] <Kathy-VHL> be right back all

[20:50] <Nina-VHL> Good news about Stan

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[20:50] <VCI-Bob> but he has some decisions to make, so we will see

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Called_out

[20:50] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Called

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[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:51] <called__out-VHL> Hello Dear Friends. :)

[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:51] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Will this give him time to get his own site?

[20:51] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hi called out

[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

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[20:51] <called__out-VHL> :)

[20:51] <Nina-VHL> Hi Glorria, called and Annie

[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:51] <Annie-VHL> Shalom all

[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:51] <Nina-VHL> time to iggy

[20:51] <VCI-Bob> But, we can be thankful - a lot of worse things could have happened re: VHL, and God worked it out very well, in response to our prayers

[20:51] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Bez, that's not been determined yet

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Audra, please do not try the same thing over and over

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> ok?

[20:52] <Annie-VHL> Gloria will you answer her

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I accept continuance of VHL for now.....

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <katie-VHL> Bob I missed what you said about VHL will the site be here tomorrow

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Audra, you are disrupting that chat

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:52] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] <Nina-VHL> Put her on ignore you all

[20:53] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] VCI-Bob has kicked Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL from #VHL-Prophecy (I asked you not to do that)

[20:53] <Nina-VHL> I did

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[20:53] <Annie-VHL> What's this Gloria stuff?

[20:53] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL521> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Thank you, Nina.

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[20:53] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL521> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL521> 3Gloria, are you ready for christmas?

[20:53] VCI-Bob sets mode: +b Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL521!*@*

[20:53] VCI-Bob has kicked Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL521 from #VHL-Prophecy (I asked you not to)

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> Ok, I had to remove her

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[20:53] <Nina-VHL> Good idea

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> Sorry, folks

[20:54] <Annie-VHL> Good!!!

[20:54] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hate that

[20:54] <Kathy-VHL> np Bob I thought she has lost the site for a while

[20:54] <Nina-VHL> I hate it that the enemy has such a hold on young minds

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> Well, she's more than welcome here, if she refrains from disrupting

[20:54] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i see that everyday

[20:54] <Kathy-VHL> I think she has some learning disabilities really

[20:54] <Annie-VHL> Sick and we must pray for her

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> yes, Kathy

[20:55] <Nina-VHL> You a teacher Michael

[20:55] <michaelm6-VHL> 4yes

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> but she know how to paste pretty well :)

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[20:55] <Kathy-VHL> yea lol

[20:55] <Nina-VHL> Thank God for Christians who are teachers

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> Audra, please do not disrupt any more

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[20:55] <VCI-Bob> ok, let's proceed :)

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[20:56] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> Gloria are you ready for christmas??

[20:56] <Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL> 3Gloria are you ready for christmas??

[20:56] VCI-Bob sets mode: +b Audra_Kaye_M_-VHL!*@*

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[20:56] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i donated mt set of left behind to the library

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[20:56] <Kathy-VHL> great Michael good idea

[20:56] <Kathy-VHL> did the school accept them

[20:56] <michaelm6-VHL> 4there is a waiting list to check them out

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> Poor Jael keeps getting bounced out

[20:56] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I just finished The Mark, Michael.

[20:56] <Kathy-VHL> wonderful

[20:56] <Nina-VHL> Great. I had the video and it was stolen from my car. I bet they were really suprized when they watched it.

[20:57] <Annie-VHL> I have only one of the books and haven't had time to read it yet

[20:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2LOL, Nina.

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> Hey, if you all want to read a good end-times novel....

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> read "The Fourth Reich" by Robert Van Kampen

[20:57] <Kathy-VHL> lol Nina

[20:57] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i am trying to get the principle to let me show the videw

[20:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2They probably didn't understand it, though, Nina.

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> I don't like his concept of the AC being a Hitler clone, but the book has lots of good insights

[20:57] <Nina-VHL> The Fourth Reich?

[20:57] <Annie-VHL> What is the Fourht Reich about?

[20:58] <Bezalel-VHL> 2A local school, here, wouldn't let the kids present "Charlie Brown's Christmas" during school hours.

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> about the rise and destruction of the ac, and the coming of the Lord

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> very good book

[20:58] <Kathy-VHL> they wont let them have a Nativity here

[20:58] <Annie-VHL> Where are you Bez?

[20:58] <Nina-VHL> The book I have been reading has lists of the members of some of the secret societies and Chaney Bush Sr Powell and the whole bunch are on it.

[20:58] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Washington (the State).

[20:59] <michaelm6-VHL> 4i saw that a group says they can clone jesus

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> though, like most commentators, he goes along with the idea that two-thirds of the Jews will be killed in a future holocaust - I don't see it that way

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[20:59] <VCI-Bob> Poor Jael! Keeps getting bounced!

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> Welcome back!

[20:59] <Annie-VHL> Bez I have a cousin in that state in Maryland

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina, the power boys have been in those societies for a long time

[21:00] <jael-VHL> glad to be back! silly computer!!

[21:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Maryland? Annie.

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> bad puter

[21:00] <Annie-VHL> OH Maryville I think

[21:00] <jael-VHL> 4vewy vewy baad

[21:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Okay, Marysville. Been through it a few times.

[21:00] <Nina-VHL> Scarey isn't it. The author claims that they have had to take an oath to have no alligence to a single nation but to the New World Order.

[21:01] <Kathy-VHL> That is probably true

[21:01] <called__out-VHL> Sorry, I came in late, what is the news about the VHL?

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> more news from tomorrows J Post: JERUSALEM (December 1) - Binyamin Netanyahu would be a big winner over Prime Minister Ehud Barak if the prime-ministerial election were held now, according to a survey by pollsters Hanoch and Rafi Smith. In polls carried out this week, Netanyahu expanded his already sizable lead from earlier in the month

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> Called, looks like the sale of VHL to another company will happen tomorrow

[21:01] <jael-VHL> 4did anyone hear about the micro-smart card demo?

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> or the finalization of the sale anyway

[21:01] <Nina-VHL> Netanyahu is a hard liner isn't he?

[21:01] <called__out-VHL> :-(

[21:02] <Annie-VHL> Bob will this still be on?

[21:02] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Isn't Barak trying t string out the elections until May....about the time the US will settle this one?

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> Called, that's not necessarily bad news....

[21:02] <Nina-VHL> No jael.

[21:02] <called__out-VHL> sorry to hear about that

[21:02] <called__out-VHL> Why? Bob :)

[21:02] <Kathy-VHL> explain Bob

[21:02] <Nina-VHL> By May we may all be in unemployment lines

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> Stan will still be there, it looks like, and will have editorial freedom

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> or at least the preliminary indications are that way

[21:02] <Kathy-VHL> oh great

[21:02] <jael-VHL> 4yep ...hundreds participated and was held in NYC and orlando...applied under the skin of the right hand

[21:03] <Kathy-VHL> oh my

[21:03] <called__out-VHL> Jael ?

[21:03] <Nina-VHL> Oh my. Where did you read or see this jael.

[21:03] <michaelm6-VHL> 4will you still be on line bob?

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> he has not had the determining discussions with the new owners yet, but has been given indications, according to my understanding

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> Michael, I'm not going anywhere, as far as I know :)

[21:03] <Annie-VHL> I read about that Jael terrible sign

[21:03] <Kathy-VHL> tell us more jarel

[21:04] <jael-VHL> 4a friend has done research off of the internet and

[21:04] <Kathy-VHL> is that th same thing as the dig angel

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> more from that news story: "In what would be a landslide victory, 47% of those questioned voiced support for the former premier and Likud leader, while only 25% favored the incumbent - fewer than those who said they would not take part in the election."

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[21:05] <jael-VHL> 6it's coming...we already know beforehand

[21:05] <Annie-VHL> What in the world can we do to survive

[21:05] <jael-VHL> 6it's a great call to the backsliders from the "jesus movement" to come home

[21:06] <called__out-VHL> Have you already discussed Arafat's trip to Russia to plead to Putin for help?

[21:06] <jael-VHL> 6trust God

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> No, Called

[21:06] <jael-VHL> 6the bear from the north?

[21:06] <called__out-VHL> Do you think that is significant Bob?

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> Annie, when the time comes, survival will not be the main consideration, but faithfulness to our confession of faith in Jesus

[21:07] <called__out-VHL> amen Bob.

[21:07] <jael-VHL> 6amen bob..you said it in a nutshell

[21:07] <Annie-VHL> Thanks Bob I only worry for my family of those who don't know HIM

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> Called, well, Arafat, that lovable terrorist, is adored by many world leaders, strange as it seems

[21:07] <jael-VHL> 6let them lop off my head...i'll laugh all the way!!!

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> Amen, Jael :)

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> I remember some months ago when Yeltsin met him, kissed him and said "my brother"

[21:08] <jael-VHL> 6thanking them profusely

[21:08] <called__out-VHL> Yes, does seem strange, but also he is loved because of who his foes are.

[21:08] <Kathy-VHL> We have to be ready to encourage the brothers and sisters

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> yes, Kathy

[21:09] <called__out-VHL> two peas in a pod.

[21:09] <jael-VHL> 6putin has already sided with saddam hussein

[21:09] <Kathy-VHL> that is what it will take encouragement to stand together

[21:09] <jael-VHL> 6supplied them with hundreds of anti aircraft missile launchers

[21:09] <michaelm6-VHL> 4putin scared me the first time i saw him, it was just one of those feelings

[21:09] <called__out-VHL> Don't forget that our Lord will lead us each step of the way through whatever lies ahead.

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> right - our strength comes from our unshakable knowledge that the Lord will soon come and triumph

[21:10] <Kathy-VHL> yes and He has supplied all out needs and He has given us each other

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> and that we need not fear ANYTHING

[21:10] <called__out-VHL> amen Bob

[21:10] <called__out-VHL> God leads his dear children along.

[21:10] <jael-VHL> 6yes He will...but we have to be intimate enough with Him to trust and obey no matter what He says...some of it might not make sense to our natural mind

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> yeah, Michael, I agree

[21:11] <Kathy-VHL> we must constantly remind outselves and others of that very thing

[21:11] <Annie-VHL> Yes and HE will utterly wipe Arafat out and all those who want to harm Israel

[21:11] <jael-VHL> 6amen

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> he is a stern, ruthless man, it seems (Putin)

[21:11] <michaelm6-VHL> 4ruttin tootin putin

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> That's right, Annie

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> Arafat's days may be very short on this planet

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[21:12] <jael-VHL> 6i believe the true test in the end for the christians will be...who will take a bullet for a Jewish brother or sister, whether or not they are Messianic,(saved)

[21:12] <Annie-VHL> Just to look at him is scary

[21:12] <jael-VHL> 6his eyes are cold

[21:13] <michaelm6-VHL> 4what is the next event in the prophetic sequence that you are looking for Bob?

[21:13] <Kathy-VHL> the eyes of man are the windows to his soul

[21:13] <Kathy-VHL> that is not biblical but true

[21:13] <jael-VHL> 6yep...just what i was thinking

[21:13] <Annie-VHL> Where are you Kathy?

[21:13] <Kathy-VHL> SC

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> michael, I guess I would have to say....

[21:14] <called__out-VHL> listening Bob

[21:14] <jael-VHL> 6what isn't biblical, kathy?

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> this: "'No longer will the people of Israel have malicious neighbors who are painful briers and sharp thorns. Then they will know that I am the Sovereign LORD. (Ezekiel 28:24 NIV)

[21:14] <Kathy-VHL> I didnt think it was but it may be

[21:14] <Annie-VHL> I will have to write these things down, getting old LOL N.Y. here

[21:14] <Kathy-VHL> me too Annie lol

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> "'No longer will the people of Israel have malicious neighbors who are painful briers and sharp thorns. Then they will know that I am the Sovereign LORD. (Ezekiel 28:24 NIV)

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> "'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will show myself holy among them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob. (Ezekiel 28:25 NIV)

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> They will live there in safety and will build houses and plant vineyards; they will live in safety when I inflict punishment on all their neighbors who maligned them. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God.'" (Ezekiel 28:26 NIV)

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> They've been gathered back, but do not now live in safety

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> and their neighbors who malign them are still doing it

[21:15] <Annie-VHL> HE is waiting for them to call on HIM

[21:15] <called__out-VHL> Gog and Magog war? Destruction of Demascus

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> As I might have said before, this Eze 28 sets the stage for Eze 38 later

[21:16] <jael-VHL> 6they won't call on Him until we make them enviuos

[21:16] <Kathy-VHL> Sounds to me like they will be living in safety when God punishes the eneny Bob

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. (Ezekiel 38:8 NIV)

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> See how one leads to the other? The condition in Eze 38 has not been set up yet - so Eze 28 has to happen first

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> that's one reason why the coming war cannot be the Gog/Magog conflict as many are supposing

[21:17] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Are the enemies just going to go away, Bob?

[21:17] <called__out-VHL> What would have to happen to make them live in safety?

[21:18] <Kathy-VHL> the treaty

[21:18] <jael-VHL> 6enemies turned to toast

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> Bez, it seems when the next phase is over, that people such as the Syrians, Palestinians, Jordanians, etc will no longer be a factor in harrassign Israel

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> Called, a very decisive victory

[21:18] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Will that be a result of war?

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> yes

[21:19] <called__out-VHL> The war that is immenent now

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> that's my understanding anyway

[21:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2So that war will be mostly regional?

[21:19] <Kathy-VHL> Bob it could be a peace treaty

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> right, Bez

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> Kathy, there is no peace treaty that would pacify the Palestinians

[21:19] <jael-VHL> 6the only treaty that will work is the one Yeshua brings!!

[21:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Seems like the time is ripe for that right now.

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[21:19] <VCI-Bob> Yes, indeed, Bez

[21:19] <Nina-VHL> I'm back. Got booted real bad.

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> Oh dear Nina!

[21:20] <jael-VHL> 6hi nina, i sympathize with you!

[21:20] <called__out-VHL> Hang in there Nina :)

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> yes, we appreciate your persistence :)

[21:20] <Nina-VHL> rubs her back side,......thanks for the sympathy

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[21:20] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:20] <jael-VHL> 6:->

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> Hello truth - is this our friend from South Africa once again?

[21:21] <Nina-VHL> Hi truth

[21:21] <michaelm6-VHL> 4hi truth\

[21:21] <jael-VHL> 6truth...what a great name!!!

[21:21] <Kathy-VHL> hi truth

[21:21] <Annie-VHL> Hi truth

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> We are very glad you were able to join us again

[21:22] <called__out-VHL> Hi Truth :)

[21:22] <jael-VHL> 6i read today that the new manager of the int'l christian embassy in Jerusalem is from s. africa

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[21:23] <VCI-Bob> Oh, Jael?

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> I suppose Stan might know him

[21:23] <Nina-VHL> THe harvest is really coming in from S. Africa, after years of seed planting

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[21:23] <Bezalel-VHL> 2BRB

[21:23] <truth-VHL> Good morning all ye Saints

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> Good "morning"! :)

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Vern!

[21:24] <truth-VHL> Goeie More Bob yes it is me from South Africa

[21:24] <jael-VHL> 6malcom hedding from durban...has a church called olive tree church

[21:24] <dovecry-VHL> "Hi!" all , How are you Bob

[21:24] <called__out-VHL> God Bless all, got to go. :)

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> How wonderful to meet with believers from around the world!

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[21:24] <VCI-Bob> Night, Called_out

[21:24] <Vern-VHL> 12Thanks Bob,,,Shalom All

[21:24] <michaelm6-VHL> 4isn't it

[21:24] <Annie-VHL> Night Called God B;less

[21:25] <jael-VHL> 6bless you, called!! shalom!!

[21:25] <dovecry-VHL> Bez.:)

[21:25] <Annie-VHL> Shalom Vern

[21:25] <Kathy-VHL> :-)

[21:25] <dovecry-VHL> were all hereagain:)

[21:26] <Annie-VHL> So truth what's going on in South Africa

[21:26] <jael-VHL> 6shalom menecha, vern (and to you too)

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> Remember a few weeks ago when we were looking at verses in Zechariah with the theme of "then they will know that the Lord sent me to you"

[21:26] <Kathy-VHL> y

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> Regarding that future understanding of the Jews that Jesus is their Messiah

[21:26] <jael-VHL> 6oh yeh...the signet ring!!!

[21:26] <Annie-VHL> Yes Bob

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> Right! :)

[21:27] <dovecry-VHL> Well please may I say, we sure are in the prophecy of the lBible. Or am I imagining things in the government?:)

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> I found another one, in ISaiah

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I." (Isaiah 52:6 NIV)

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Dovecry? Tell us

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> and the verses after that are so good, I just have to share them also

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news, who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!" (Isaiah 52:7 NIV)

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices; together they shout for joy. When the LORD returns to Zion, they will see it with their own eyes. (Isaiah 52:8 NIV)

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Burst into songs of joy together, you ruins of Jerusalem, for the LORD has comforted his people, he has redeemed Jerusalem. (Isaiah 52:9 NIV)

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God. (Isaiah 52:10 NIV)

[21:28] <jael-VHL> 6those would be gentile feet, wouldn't they?

[21:28] <Nina-VHL> Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem.

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Can't you sense the extreme excitement of Isaiah as He sees in a vision the future arrival of the Messiah?

[21:29] <Annie-VHL> WOW

[21:29] <Nina-VHL> Yes Bob. It excites me too

[21:29] <jael-VHL> 6i'm speechless

[21:29] <Kathy-VHL> He saw Him as the servant or as the warrior Bob

[21:29] <Nina-VHL> I love listening to Handels Messiah this time of year, it is straight from Isaiah.

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> Yes, the servant, and the warrior

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> Me too Nina - it is so inspiring and thrilling

[21:30] <Nina-VHL> And the Ruler of the Earth

[21:30] <Kathy-VHL> that is what I thought it was in two parts that his vision took him right

[21:30] <Annie-VHL> I had a vision of Jesus once and such LOVE eminated it was glorious

[21:31] <Kathy-VHL> that must have been dificult to depict Bob

[21:31] <Kathy-VHL> His first coming was seen in two parts like His second coming

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Kathy, and what comes next is even more difficult - the suffering Messiah in 52:13 thru 53

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> See, my servant will act wisely ; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. (Isaiah 52:13 NIV)

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Just as there were many who were appalled at him -- his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness-- (Isaiah 52:14 NIV)

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> so will he sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand. (Isaiah 52:15 NIV)

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[21:32] <dovecry-VHL> Yes, but too I'm concerned about the things that are happening in our world now .. Sometimes I am more , and more concerned for the people who don't know the Lord, or who don't live for God, but are living in rebellion. Bob I want so much to be gentle, but sometimes a person just wants to grab the people and say wake up and except the salvation of the Lord.

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Dovecry, and your sense of urgency is one that we should all emulate, but of course we must be wise in our approach, huh

[21:33] <Nina-VHL> Let's don't forget Isaiah 9.....For unto us a child is born, a son is given......Wonderful, Counselor, All Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> Amen, Nina!

[21:33] <jael-VHL> 6we have a serious obligation to live to truth out before the peoples and to pray for the blinders to come off

[21:34] <Kathy-VHL> we have not been taught to fight spiritual warefare

[21:34] <jael-VHL> 6and to speak when the Lord says to

[21:34] <Nina-VHL> I use the news to call attention to the return of Jesus at work and it really has people listening and thinking now.

[21:35] <Kathy-VHL> I t will really get their attention when Damascus falls

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina - that's an excellent approach, because...

[21:36] <michaelm6-VHL> 4is damacus supposed to be destroyed in the upcomming war, or the isaih 38 war

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> When there are Christians there to show the prophesy to them, otherwise they will only say,,,,,"they have fought there for centuries"....I have heard that much too.

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> what the Lord has done in and for Israel defies human logic and understanding

[21:36] <jael-VHL> 6i heard something from a wise woman...don't try doing all your battle in the second heaven(where all the principalities are) and go to the third heaven (where our King's throne is) and worship Him until He gives us orders and He Himself rises to do our warfare for us

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> Amen Bob

[21:36] <dovecry-VHL> I am so concerned because of what scripture has said about the last days, and about what Jesus said in John 3:17-21

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> Amen Jael

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Michael, in the upcoming war, we think

[21:36] <jael-VHL> 6The Lord does fight for Israel!!

[21:37] <jael-VHL> 6and for those grafted in

[21:37] <Nina-VHL> The last two wars were proof of God's hand in doing miracles for Israel.

[21:37] <VCI-Bob> Yes, but.... all indications are that after this upcoming war, world opinion will severely turn against Israel

[21:37] <Nina-VHL> Actually 3, counting Desert Storm

[21:37] <jael-VHL> 6in rev. 19 the vision of our King of Kings on His mighty horse

[21:38] <jael-VHL> 6that gives me courage!!

[21:38] <Nina-VHL> If God be with you, who can be against you.

[21:38] <VCI-Bob> yes, Dovecry?

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[21:38] <VCI-Bob> Sure does, Jael!

[21:38] <VCI-Bob> Very inspiring!

[21:38] <VCI-Bob> Right, Nina! Nobody!

[21:38] <Nina-VHL> Courage is Jesus's request for us. Fear Not, but be of good courage...

[21:38] <Rich-VHL> 7Hello beloved freinds

[21:38] <jael-VHL> 6there's those horses and white linen!!:-)

[21:39] <Nina-VHL> Hi Rich

[21:39] <VCI-Bob> Hey there beloved Rich! :)

[21:39] <Rich-VHL> 7I'm a little late but better late than never

[21:39] <Nina-VHL> I can't ride horses here on earth anymore, at least in this body, bad neck, but I will ride again in my resurrected body.

[21:39] <Rich-VHL> 7hi nina

[21:40] <Annie-VHL> Well got to go been a very long day, study to show yourselves approved and Pray alot.God Bless Shalom all

[21:40] <Nina-VHL> God Bless Annie

[21:40] <jael-VHL> 6won't that be awesome!!??

[21:40] <Rich-VHL> 7hi bez, kathy Annie dove and all

[21:40] <Nina-VHL> Amen Jael.

[21:40] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Rich

[21:40] <dovecry-VHL> Ok, I am sorry , but I have great concern, I need help sometimes to remind me that our God is in full control, but these scriptures keep coming back to my heart for the people. Those who know the truth, but for whatever reason choose to live wrong

[21:40] <VCI-Bob> OK - I have a good Scripture about those days

[21:40] <Rich-VHL> 7night Annie

[21:40] <jael-VHL> 6bye nina, shalom of Yahweh be with you

[21:41] <michaelm6-VHL> 4did you see al gore speech where he was trying to show his "religious conviction" by saying his favorite verse was john 3:16, but instead he said john 16:3

[21:41] <Nina-VHL> Thanks Jael.

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> See, my servant will act wisely ; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. (Isaiah 52:13 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Just as there were many who were appalled at him -- his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness-- (Isaiah 52:14 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> so will he sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand. (Isaiah 52:15 NIV)

[21:41] <michaelm6-VHL> 4

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> oops - wrong one

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Bye Annie

[21:41] <michaelm6-VHL> 4which says

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Were you angry with the rivers, O LORD? Was your wrath against the streams? Did you rage against the sea when you rode with your horses and your victorious chariots? (Habakkuk 3:8 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> You uncovered your bow, you called for many arrows. Selah You split the earth with rivers; (Habakkuk 3:9 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> the mountains saw you and writhed. Torrents of water swept by; the deep roared and lifted its waves on high. (Habakkuk 3:10 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Sun and moon stood still in the heavens at the glint of your flying arrows, at the lightning of your flashing spear. (Habakkuk 3:11 NIV)

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> In wrath you strode through the earth and in anger you threshed the nations. (Habakkuk 3:12 NIV)

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[21:41] <michaelm6-VHL> 4they will do such things because they know not the father or me

[21:41] <Nina-VHL> Bye....Gotta get ready for work.

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[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Habukkuks incredible vision of the Lord's coming

[21:41] <jael-VHL> 6bye annie...shalom to you too

[21:42] <dovecry-VHL> love annie

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> Which also talks about the demise of the antichrist:

[21:43] <VCI-Bob> You came out to deliver your people, to save your anointed one. You crushed the leader of the land of wickedness, you stripped him from head to foot. Selah (Habakkuk 3:13 NIV)

[21:43] <VCI-Bob> With his own spear you pierced his head when his warriors stormed out to scatter us, gloating as though about to devour the wretched who were in hiding. (Habakkuk 3:14 NIV)

[21:44] <dovecry-VHL> I will most assuredly keep those in prayer... But my heart cries for Israel, because I know Israel is going through much troubles at this time

[21:44] <Rich-VHL> 7me too dove

[21:44] <Kathy-VHL> me too

[21:45] <Rich-VHL> 7but we know the outcome of all this for Israel, how the Lord is bringing the Jews home

[21:45] <dovecry-VHL> (crying) I pray for the little children and the people of our Lord who are suffering now in Israel

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> Dove, go ahead and lead in prayer

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[21:45] <Rich-VHL> 7please do dove

[21:46] <dovecry-VHL> Gracious Heavenly Father,

[21:46] <Kathy-VHL> Father you are above all

[21:47] <michaelm6-VHL> 4ive got to go, i enjoyed it

[21:47] <jael-VHL305> far above

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> Bye Michael - God bless! :)

[21:47] <dovecry-VHL> we come before You and thank You , O Lord, we ask for You Divine guidence, and protection for Your children in Israel

[21:47] <jael-VHL305> 6shalom michael

[21:47] <michaelm6-VHL> 4bye bob, all

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[21:47] <Rich-VHL> 7Father you are The Most High all things are for Your Glory

[21:48] <Rich-VHL> 7by michael

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[21:48] <dovecry-VHL> Lord, Thank You that You are our source of strength.,Bless all those who could make it here tonight

[21:48] <Kathy-VHL> we humble our hearts before you for we do not understant so much of what we see

[21:48] <Kathy-VHL> and hear concerning your people

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[21:49] <Rich-VHL> 7Father give us Your understanding

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[21:49] <Kathy-VHL> But we know that you are in control of all things and that you intend to work all things for good concerning your chosen ones

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Joel, and Toria, to Bible Prophecy Chat

[21:50] <toria-VHL> Hi Everyone, I haven't been here for several weeks. Good to be back.

[21:50] <Kathy-VHL> We believe your word Father and we remind You of Your Pormisses

[21:50] <Rich-VHL> 7Father please let Jesus come with Your Kingdom as soon as You can

[21:50] <jael-VHL305> 6Almighty Yahweh..please anoint the believers in the Land that are working amonst the Jews and tje arabs...

[21:51] <dovecry-VHL> be with those who must laeve and Father, thank You for just being our Holy God. Lord we plead the blood over Israel, Thank You for being a God of healing and strength. You are the great Elohim.In Jesus' name, we pray, amen.

[21:51] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord God - we petition you on behalf of Israel, that you would once again remember your promises, and your covenant with Abraham, and show mercy to Israel

[21:51] <Kathy-VHL> The Holy Spirit is the comforter send Him in abundance to those who hurt Father

[21:51] <jael-VHL305> 6and please, protect the arab christians who are the mosr in danger in Israel

[21:51] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord, may the messengers of the gospel be anointed with power as they proclaim your glory

[21:52] <dovecry-VHL> Holy, Holy, Holy, are You Lord! we Praise Your Holy Name , let us always bring Gloyr to Your name Mighty God.

[21:52] <toria-VHL> 2Father continue to allow Stan to hear your voice and your will be done in His life and family.

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> We pray, Lord, that any Arab believers would see and understand the folly of being in league with the thug Arafat

[21:52] <Kathy-VHL> Show us Lord what You would have us do

[21:52] <Rich-VHL> 7Father let all the world come to know of You and Jesus Your Christ

[21:53] <jael-VHL305> 6yes Lord, give the Jews peace in their hearts that only You can bring and drive out all fear and depression, and provide their need sin the midst of economic upheaval

[21:53] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord, we ask you to provide for Stan, and give him and his family great confidence in you

[21:53] <Kathy-VHL> Show Yourself to them that they may know and bow before you in confession that Jesus is Lord

[21:53] <dovecry-VHL> Yes, Lord, we pray that all come to know Your Salvation, e pray that we are able to be a light that shines in the darkness

[21:54] <jael-VHL305> 6and for the palestinain children, we ask for mercy and angels to keep them from being used as human sheilds

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> Lord we thank you that you hear, and you act, in response to our requests

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> we, your children, love you, Lord

[21:54] <toria-VHL> 2Lord, wake up the church in this hour and take the blinders from their eyes. They must begin to stand with Israel and reject replacement theroy. Wake them up of God to see that you are not finished with the jewsih nation.

[21:54] <Kathy-VHL> amd Father keep our light shinning among our own that they too would know You

[21:54] <Rich-VHL> 7yes Lord we thank You for all Your mercies

[21:55] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord

[21:55] <Kathy-VHL> Help us to be thankful for even the bad for it is in knowing bad that we recognize good

[21:55] <jael-VHL305> 6and also Father that at this time of ramahdan , that the violence would not increase, but be quelled...that an unusual peace would overtake the hearts of the moslem world, that ISLAM WILL BE BROKEN IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS!!!G

[21:56] <dovecry-VHL> Father, thank You for Your precious Holy Spirit, thank You that He is presant at this very moment as we each are typing in our prayer all in one accord, just as Your servants in the upper room Lord, thank You Holy Spirit

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> May your will be done, Lord, in accordance with your declared plans

[21:56] <Kathy-VHL> Yes thank You Father

[21:56] <toria-VHL> 2Amen Lord break the power of islam and cause the arabs to know you and even provoke the Jews to jealousy

[21:56] <Kathy-VHL> Your will only Father as you have set it out long ago

[21:56] <jael-VHL305> 6thank you Lord for unity in our hearts as we want your will to be done on earth as it is in heaven

[21:57] <toria-VHL> 2We worship you oh mighty God, there is known like you!

[21:58] <jael-VHL305> 6Father i even ask that as the moslems are fasting that you would visit them in dreams and visions as the Mighty one of Israel...the True and only God!!!!

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> Oh Lord, give us all pure hearts, humble hearts, tender hearts to you. Help us to love you even more

[21:58] <Kathy-VHL> yes Father

[21:58] <jael-VHL305> 6yes Father

[21:58] <dovecry-VHL> Father, again we thank You, and stand in Awe of You

[21:58] <Rich-VHL> 7Father bring soon to Your people in Israel the knowledge of Jesus

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord God

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> May we all have hearts that are fiercely devoted to you, Lord

[21:59] <dovecry-VHL> "Glory! Glory! to the Lamb!"

[21:59] <jael-VHL305> 6and cause us, your bride, to walk in true repentance and humility in compassion of even the hardest...even to love arafat and putin

[21:59] <Kathy-VHL> Praise you Father

[22:00] <Rich-VHL> 7Jesus is our Lord

[22:00] <jael-VHL305> 6only Your love can do that Lord

[22:00] <toria-VHL> 2it is by your Spirit Lord that men will come to know you. We stand in the gap for our beloved Israel knowing that you will save them and reveal yourself over and over to them in this hour. Give the courage to to say yes to you Messiah!

[22:01] <dovecry-VHL> O Most Holy Father, may our prayer and praise come up to You like a sweet fragrance

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> Lead them to repentence, Lord

[22:01] <Rich-VHL> 7Father keep all Your Holy people safe in the times just ahead of us

[22:01] <jael-VHL305> 6i ask for the salvation of arafat & putin, and all who would conspire against Israel..that you would have mercy and give them one more chance...mercy triumphs over judgment

[22:01] <Kathy-VHL> bring our lost loved ones quickly to you Lord

[22:02] <dovecry-VHL> Holy Spirit, Yes minister to the hearts of those who live in confusion. Save them Lord.

[22:03] <Kathy-VHL> let the seeds that have been planted spring forth in service to You Father

[22:03] <jael-VHL305> 6and for this country, that the hearts of the hardest would be drawn to you as the holidays draw near, that they would see Jesus in christmas

[22:04] <jael-VHL305> 6yes and strenghten the weary warriors who are faithful to stand and fight on the front lines

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord

[22:04] <toria-VHL> 2Father cause knowledge to come to the body of Christ concerning Israel. Give the church a hunger to know more and lead them through your word to pray and stand with Israel. Father may America continue to stand with Israel .

[22:04] <Rich-VHL> 7Glory be to God in the Highest

[22:04] <dovecry-VHL> Thank You Dear Lord for I sense the presance of the Holy Spirit all over me, Fill our hearts and our homes with Your love

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> And we remember all around the world who are now suffering because of their stand for your name - may your Spirit comfort them in a powerful way

[22:04] <Kathy-VHL> yes Father

[22:05] <jael-VHL305> 6and for angelic visitation, for refreshment, for clarity to those who pray and a burden to those who don't

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> fill them with joy as they remember that their reward will be great in glory

[22:05] <jael-VHL305> 6be with the believers in power in sudan and indonesia

[22:06] <jael-VHL305> 6in all islamic countries

[22:06] <dovecry-VHL> Yes, Holy Spirit we pray cover the hurting with beautiful and wonderful peace

[22:06] <Rich-VHL> 7Father please don't let them suffer too much let them be in Your peace and Love

[22:06] <VCI-Bob> Your name, Jesus, will prevail! We worship you, Almighty Lord!

[22:07] <toria-VHL> 2amen

[22:07] <Rich-VHL> 7Amen

[22:07] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Your Will be Done!

[22:07] <jael-VHL305> 6may we see these answers swiftly in our days, that as yYour kingdom is surely drawing near let our vision be ever wider and ever higher

[22:07] <Kathy-VHL> Amen

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> Amen!

[22:08] <jael-VHL305> 6all glory and honor and praise be to You mighty Lamb

[22:08] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Amen

[22:08] <dovecry-VHL> Thank You for the great work that You are doing in Pakistan Lord, I have a special friend there who serves You Mightly. Thank You for all the converts that are coming to know You over there. Keep them safe

[22:08] <jael-VHL305> 6we love You

[22:08] <Rich-VHL> 7Can you all feel the power here with us tonight

[22:08] <Kathy-VHL> in Your Precious Name which is above all names

[22:08] <jael-VHL305> 6yes Lord

[22:09] <dovecry-VHL> In Jesus' name, Amen, and Amen!:)

[22:09] <Rich-VHL> 7God's Holy power

[22:09] <toria-VHL> 2Lord we wrap all this in praise and give it all to you. We worship you and praise you for what you are gling to do tonight with this group and conversation.

[22:09] <VCI-Bob> All rightee then folks - anything else important that we want to discuss tonight before we call it quits?

[22:09] <jael-VHL305> 6there is one thing...

[22:10] <toria-VHL> 2I guess I am late:-(

[22:10] <jael-VHL305> 6in 1939 a boat of about 1,000 Jews was tryning to find asylum in america...first in s. america, then in fla, then canada

[22:11] <Rich-VHL> 7go on jael

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> No, Toria, we're still going strong :)

[22:11] <dovecry-VHL> Just that I love you all. I would go down the list, but I love you all the same

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jael

[22:11] <jael-VHL305> 6they were turned away and had to return to nazi europe , most of them died

[22:11] <Kathy-VHL> and we love you Dove

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> right, Jael

[22:11] <jael-VHL305> 6guess which 3 florida counties turned them away?

[22:12] <jael-VHL305> 6miami,broward,and palm beach!!!

[22:12] <dovecry-VHL> I also wish I knew what is going to become of our chats when VHL is changed:(

[22:12] <Rich-VHL> 7I thought so

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> Dovecry, the chats will continue, the Lord willing. Don't worry

[22:12] <Kathy-VHL> could have figured the most corrupt ones today right

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> wow, Jael

[22:13] <Rich-VHL> 7never fear Dove

[22:13] <dovecry-VHL> :->

[22:13] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:13] <toria-VHL> 2Last night I was in a meeting with Gwen Shaw and she told of a ship that was turned away, not sure what year, but they miraclously found savety in 3 or 4 other countries, Canada was one of them. But USA did turn them away even though they had papers and a visa for the states.

[22:13] <jael-VHL305> 6we need to repent on behalf of those counties, there is a connection, i just know it , with this election and all thats happening in Israel

[22:13] <Kathy-VHL> explain the significance in those counties Bob

[22:13] <dovecry-VHL> yes

[22:13] <VCI-Bob> Jael's doing a fine job :)

[22:14] <jael-VHL305> 6i read that this year canad publicly repented for the disaster of sending them back

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> I don't know that there is necessarily a connection, but God knows

[22:14] <Rich-VHL> 7I gotta go freinds Love you all

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> Yes, the US was shamefully complicit in turning away Jews who were fleeing

[22:15] <toria-VHL> 2Washing was president then. America has a lot to repent for also.

[22:15] <Bezalel-VHL> 2There is an irony, though.

[22:15] <Kathy-VHL> love you too Rich

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> not just that incident, but the overall policy

[22:15] <dovecry-VHL> love Rich

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> Night, Rich - love ya too

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[22:15] <Kathy-VHL> right Bob

[22:15] <jael-VHL305> 6we will see canada be blessed...you watch...if the church gets ahold of this and really does some identificational repentance...what could happen? it could be a real breakthrough for Israel and usa

[22:16] <jael-VHL305> 6it only takes a remnant

[22:16] <dovecry-VHL> good

[22:16] <dovecry-VHL> yes just a remman

[22:16] <jael-VHL305> 6a loving challenge to my vhl family

[22:16] <toria-VHL> 2There are 750,000 jew's in Flordia. i found a web page with the history of the Jew's in flordia.

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[22:16] <dovecry-VHL> oups!:)

[22:17] <jael-VHL305> 6and most of them live in those 3 counties!!! go figure

[22:17] <VCI-Bob> You know, Jael, I don't even look for "breakthroughs" any more - perhaps I'm wrong in this, but I think it's way too late to think in terms of "turning things around" - what we need to do instead is simply be faithful to the Lord's message, regardless

[22:17] <dovecry-VHL> WoW! where is it, this web site

[22:17] <toria-VHL> 2I will go look. I'll be back.

[22:17] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Amen, Bob.

[22:18] <dovecry-VHL> ok

[22:18] <jael-VHL305> 6that's a good point of view bob...but we must never underestimate what God can do with a few gutsy and beliving souls

[22:18] <Kathy-VHL> but you know there could be a part of USA that is protected

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> true, Jael :)

[22:18] <Kathy-VHL> if the people who are called by His name turn from their wicked ways and repent

[22:19] <Kathy-VHL> God could protect

[22:19] <jael-VHL305> 6He's always challenging, "come on kids...I've got more!!"

[22:19] <Kathy-VHL> He said he would pour out a blessing

[22:20] <Kathy-VHL> If we have to stand against this country we could be exiled to a certain part of it and who knows what that could mean

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[22:20] <Kathy-VHL> what man intends for evil God makes for good

[22:20] <jael-VHL305> 6i for one, won't try to make anything happen...you know work it up in the flesh...but if Abba says "do this"...you can believe, i'll follow His lead!!!

[22:21] <jael-VHL305> 6He is always,always,always faithful

[22:21] <VCI-Bob> :) I guess that's why it's so vitally important that we discern the times and what His intentions are according to His Word

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[22:21] <VCI-Bob> Which is why we have these chats :)

[22:22] <Kathy-VHL> exatly Bob

[22:22] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Oh! That's why

[22:22] <jael-VHL305> 6amen...the best commentary on the Word is the Word itself

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> LOL Bez

[22:22] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I wondered why I couldn't get any dates on this chat. :-)

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> ROFL

[22:22] <toria-VHL> Flordiajewish.com This is wherer you can find history about Jews in Flordia. Sorry to change the subject.

[22:22] <jael-VHL305> 6i love this chat...you guys are a breath of fresh air!!!! i love you all!!!

[22:23] <dovecry-VHL> :)

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> thanks, Toria!

[22:23] <jael-VHL305> 6thanks toria..i'll check it out!!

[22:23] <toria-VHL> 2 I feel off page. What did I miss?

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> did it hurt?

[22:23] <jael-VHL305> 6you are too funny bez

[22:23] <Kathy-VHL> can I say something off the subject Bob it will bless

[22:24] <dovecry-VHL> (laughing)

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> sure, Kathy!

[22:24] <dovecry-VHL> :)

[22:24] <toria-VHL> 2yes, i miss soomething Good!:->

[22:24] <Kathy-VHL> Ig anyone has Napster please get the song "Sonrise" by Kingsmen

[22:24] <dovecry-VHL> Thanks Bob I needed that:)

[22:24] <Kathy-VHL> It is unknown but the most beautiful one I have heard in a long long time

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> thanks, Kathy!

[22:25] <Kathy-VHL> y w

[22:25] <toria-VHL> 2How is Stan and Family, and also the decsion coming that we have been praying about.?

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> OK, folks, I need to go :)

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> Stan and family are fine, though not having a paycheck for awhile is being a difficulty

[22:26] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hold the door, Bob, I need to leave also.

[22:26] <jael-VHL305> 6well, i gotta go...it's getting past my bedtime...we pregnant ladies need our rest you know!!!

[22:26] <Kathy-VHL> ok Bob we would like to keep you but understand thank you for your time to us

[22:26] <Kathy-VHL> it blesses us real good lol

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> And.... VHL is being sold, and it appears that they will retain Stan

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> you're welcome, Kathy - my pleasure

[22:26] <jael-VHL305> 6thanks bob...you are a credit to your country and to the body of Christ!!

[22:26] <toria-VHL> 2Next time I will try and be on time.

[22:26] <Kathy-VHL> Wonderful God heard our prayers

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[22:27] <toria-VHL> 2I really think that that is what God wants, Bob.

[22:27] <dovecry-VHL> I know I am not always here Bob ,but I have been missing you and thinking of you and your family

[22:27] <dovecry-VHL> I just wanted you to know this

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> If anyone wishes to help out Stan and Franny with a gift....

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> email me and I will tell you how

[22:27] <jael-VHL305> 6amen...shalom and the make His face to shine upon you all and give you rest!!! see ya next time!!!

[22:28] <Kathy-VHL> Love and blessings to all good night

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Jael :)

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[22:28] <toria-VHL> 2Shalom

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Night Kathy

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:28] <jael-VHL305> 6:-);-):->

[22:28] <dovecry-VHL> Night Bob

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Shelly, sorry, looks like you are getting in on the tail end here

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[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Good night Dovecry

[22:29] <dovecry-VHL> Kathy, and all I love yuo too gotta go :)

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> And Mr Truth from South Africa, great to have you here again

[22:29] <truth-VHL> 5i just "got back" Bob

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> Good night

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