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[19:53] <VCI-Bob> Hi there Jewdy!

[19:53] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Bob Just sitting here listening to the election fisaco

[19:54] <VCI-Bob> Yes, what a mess, huh

[19:54] <Jewdy-VHL> Yeah, I was just thinking what a mess man can make out of something. But God is still in control

[19:55] <VCI-Bob> amen!

[19:55] <Jewdy-VHL> I know whatever the outcome, God's will is going to be accomplished. He'll work things out in his own time and in his own way

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[19:56] <VCI-Bob> Should be interesting to watch what happens

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> Hi, Annie!

[19:56] <Jewdy-VHL> It's just so disheartening to see our country so divided.

[19:56] <Annie-VHL> Hi Bob

[19:56] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Annie

[19:56] <Annie-VHL> Hi there Jewdy

[19:57] <VCI-Bob> Go ahead and chat - I have a phone call

[19:57] <Jewdy-VHL> Are you watching the elections, Annie?

[19:58] <Annie-VHL> I think the whole world is having a good laugh on us

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[19:58] <Jewdy-VHL> It's fascinating yet scary

[19:58] <Annie-VHL> Yes

[19:59] <Jewdy-VHL> I'm afraid our country is going to get into great disturbances no matter who wins

[19:59] <Annie-VHL> Did you hear that VHL is in trouble may go off

[19:59] <Jewdy-VHL> No, I haven't heard that. Why?

[20:00] <Annie-VHL> They have ran out of m;oney

[20:00] <Jewdy-VHL> Oh my goodness. I look foward to Mondays or Thursdays

[20:00] <Annie-VHL> I surely would miss this site as I look forwward to it

[20:00] <VCI-Bob> I'm on a phone call - I'll explain the VHL situation shortly

[20:01] <Annie-VHL> Where do you live Jewdy

[20:01] <called_out-VHL> 10Hello Dear Friends :)

[20:01] <Jewdy-VHL> East Texas.

[20:01] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello called out!

[20:01] <Jewdy-VHL> Where are you Annie?

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[20:01] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Jewdy, and Annie

[20:01] <Annie-VHL> Wow we're a long way from each other I'm in N.Y.

[20:01] <called_out-VHL> 10I am in the middle in Ohio

[20:02] <Annie-VHL> Not N.Y. city Syracuse

[20:02] <Jewdy-VHL> I buy a lot of things from NY on Ebay.

[20:02] <eden-VHL> Shalom Bob and everyone

[20:02] <Jewdy-VHL> Do you know where Berea, Ohio?

[20:02] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Eden

[20:02] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Eden

[20:02] <Annie-VHL> Hi called out, we are a long wasy from each other too

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> Hi Eden, and Called_Out

[20:02] <eden-VHL> hi called and jewdy

[20:02] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Bob :)

[20:02] <Annie-VHL> Hi Eden

[20:03] <Jewdy-VHL> Bob, explain the situation about VHL

[20:03] <eden-VHL> hi annie

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> Yes, VHL is in jeopardy - here is a letter I wrote that describes the situation: http://www.trumpetsounds.com/vhlcrisis.html

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> To summarize....

[20:03] <called_out-VHL> 10:-O

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> The parent company, Virtual Communities, has been losing lots of money and is about to cease all operations

[20:04] <Annie-VHL> :-(

[20:04] <called_out-VHL> 10:-(

[20:04] <eden-VHL> :-(

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> Which leaves the future of VHL in doubt, not to mention Stan's means of employment and future paychecks

[20:04] <called_out-VHL> 10I really hate to hear this.

[20:04] <Annie-VHL> Where will we find you?

[20:05] <Jewdy-VHL> What things have to be paid for when you have an internet site?

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Don't despair - we are praying that the Lord will come through with a solution of some kind

[20:05] <eden-VHL> can you set up chat on trumpet sounds?

[20:05] <Annie-VHL> I'll pray hard too

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> On that letter I mentioned above, there is a link to an "updates" page on the situation

[20:05] <called_out-VHL> 10Me too.

[20:05] <Jewdy-VHL> I believe He will Bob

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> if the situation changes, I will get information out there for you

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> we will continue the chats, one way or another

[20:06] <Jewdy-VHL> Great!

[20:06] <called_out-VHL> 10thank you Bob.

[20:06] <eden-VHL> thanks bob will check it out after chat

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> You will see, on the updates page, some of the possibilities of what might happen

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> so pray :)

[20:06] <called_out-VHL> 10yes

[20:06] <Jewdy-VHL> Agreed

[20:06] <eden-VHL> have been!!!!

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Stan and I are confident that something very good will come out of this, even though it does not look good now

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[20:07] <Jewdy-VHL> How is Stan doing in Israel, since the excalation of the fighting?

[20:07] <called_out-VHL> 10All things work to the good....

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Hello Barbara - thanks for the email

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Called

[20:07] <Barbara-VHL> Hi Bob...

[20:08] <Jewdy-VHL> Hi Barbara

[20:08] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Barbara :)

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> Jewdy, it's a little unnerving for them - the can hear the gunfire at times from nearby Gilo

[20:08] <Barbara-VHL> 6Won't be here too long...Very tired...

[20:08] <Barbara-VHL> 6Hi friends...

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> last night was quite a firefight there, Stan said

[20:08] <Jewdy-VHL> I have a pen pal near Jericho who wrote me the other night that she couldn't sleep because of the shelling

[20:08] <eden-VHL> hi barbara, shalom

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jewdy, Jericho has gotten worse in recent days

[20:08] <Barbara-VHL> 6Shalom, eden

[20:09] <Jewdy-VHL> I fear for her. She was born in Houston, and converted to Judaism. She's not used to that.

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> Isn't it interesting that many of the hot spots have Biblical significance?

[20:09] <Jewdy-VHL> Yes, Bob

[20:09] <eden-VHL> the walls come tumbling down again???

[20:09] <called_out-VHL> 10Oh how we long for the day when the Lyon will lay down with the lamb.

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Nablus (Shechem), Gaza

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> Amen, Called out

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> and of course, Jerusalem

[20:10] <Jewdy-VHL> I loved Jerusalem

[20:10] <Barbara-VHL> 6oh, Jerusalem..my Jerusalem

[20:10] <VCI-Bob> Eden, at least the walls of the casino in Jericho - an IDF helicopter fired missles at the top floor a few days ago

[20:10] <eden-VHL> woohoo way to go IDF

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> because of snipers there

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[20:11] <Jewdy-VHL> I think a lot of the settlers are starting to move out of the areas.

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Hi Kathy!

[20:11] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Kathy

[20:11] <called_out-VHL> 10I am feeling discouraged today, seems no end in sight. I know it is just the old deceiver the devil, but sometimes it is so discouraging.

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jewdy? Many of them are pretty tough and determined

[20:11] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Bob and everybody

[20:11] <eden-VHL> well they are (casino's) dens of iniquity

[20:12] <Annie-VHL> Had to step out - Hi Barbara

[20:12] <Barbara-VHL> 6shslom, ksthy

[20:12] <Barbara-VHL> 6shalom...:-)

[20:12] <Jewdy-VHL> That's true. They don't think they need to give in.

[20:12] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Kathy

[20:12] <Barbara-VHL> 6Annie...:-)

[20:12] <Jewdy-VHL> Why discourage, called out?

[20:12] <Annie-VHL> Hi kathy where are you?

[20:12] <Kathy-VHL> SC

[20:12] <called_out-VHL> 10Don't know Jewdy, just tired I guess.

[20:12] <VCI-Bob> Looks like the good ole gang is here tonight :)

[20:13] <Barbara-VHL> 6Next to Florida...:-)

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> "ole" being a figure of speech, of course :)

[20:13] <called_out-VHL> 10of course :)

[20:13] <Jewdy-VHL> I'm glad you clarified that Bob

[20:13] <Barbara-VHL> 6by all means...

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> LOL

[20:13] <Kathy-VHL> Bob I had a very interesting conservation with the Muslem boy today

[20:13] <eden-VHL> hi Kathy Baptist buddy

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> yes, Kathy?

[20:13] <Kathy-VHL> Hi eden lol

[20:13] <Kathy-VHL> He believes in Christ

[20:13] <Barbara-VHL> 6Hallelujah!!!

[20:13] <Kathy-VHL> says Jesus is God's son

[20:14] <Jewdy-VHL> Amazing

[20:14] <Annie-VHL> That's great Kathy

[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> says he died for our sins

[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> but says Alah is God

[20:14] <Barbara-VHL> 6Amen!!!

[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> I am confused

[20:14] <called_out-VHL> 10Bob, what on earth do you make of this election fiasco?

[20:14] <Barbara-VHL> 6Oh...Oh

[20:14] <eden-VHL> they (muslims) accept Jesus as a prophet

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[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> he says he is Gods son

[20:15] <Kathy-VHL> virgin birth and all

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> You know what, I heard the same thing from Elena's husband when I met him (an ex-Muslim) - he said the leap to believing in Jesus was not that great for him - he already believe much of it

[20:15] <Barbara-VHL> 6called out...I thinik it is all part of G'd's plan...allowing satan some free will

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> but, of course, they say that Jesus was only one in a succession of prophets, not God's "only begotten" Son as we know

[20:15] <called_out-VHL> 10could be Barb.

[20:15] <Kathy-VHL> it makes it difficult to witness to him

[20:16] <eden-VHL> thats right bob

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Jan!

[20:16] <Jewdy-VHL> I just wish it would hurry and be over, but I don't think that is going to happen.

[20:16] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Jan

[20:16] <Kathy-VHL> because he thinks he believes the same as we do

[20:16] <jan-VHL> hi guys

[20:16] <Barbara-VHL> 6Hi jan

[20:16] <Kathy-VHL> hi Jn

[20:16] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Jan :)

[20:16] <Annie-VHL> I think this election thing is part of a plan to throw the American poeple into a tizzy

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> No, we have a ways to go, Jewdy, but when it's over - boy, will it be good :)

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Annie? I do also - elaborate please

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[20:16] <eden-VHL> Amen!!!!

[20:17] <Kathy-VHL> I think it is a p;an to keep Clinton in a little longer

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Newharv

[20:17] <jan-VHL> sure has kept Israel off the news

[20:17] <Barbara-VHL> 6Shalom, newharv

[20:17] <NewHarv-VHL> Hello Bob and group

[20:17] <jan-VHL> hi new

[20:17] <Annie-VHL> You might be right Kathy, I say he's not gone till he's gone!!

[20:17] <called_out-VHL> 10It also makes the US look weak.

[20:17] <Jewdy-VHL> Hello Newharv

[20:17] <eden-VHL> hi newH

[20:18] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Newharv

[20:18] <Annie-VHL> Hi jan and Newharv

[20:18] <Kathy-VHL> not only makes us look weak it makes us weak

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> What disturbs me most about the election is not what has happened.... but the fuzzy-headed way that many Christian spokespersons have responded

[20:18] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Like who for instance, Bob?

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[20:19] <Annie-VHL> too darn many churches not even talking about it but there is a guy on the radio at night that says it right

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> As if it's purely black and white, that Gore is the evil enemy and Bush is the solution to our nations ills

[20:19] <NewHarv-VHL> Hi to everyone

[20:19] <Kathy-VHL> people just dont understand that it is all in Gods plan

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Now, of course, I don't support Gore at all - he is worse...

[20:19] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Well, there are many people in the church on opposite sides of the voting booth, Annie

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> but the solution is not in politics or political leaders AT ALL

[20:20] <jan-VHL> the church better be careful who they align with

[20:20] <Barbara-VHL> 6No, Bob...it's in the hearts!!!

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> thats right Bob

[20:20] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Rleem

[20:20] <NewHarv-VHL> Amen Bob, Cursed is the man who trusteth in man

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> who ever gets in is all God's p;an

[20:20] <called_out-VHL> 10No, Bob, political leaders will not change the world.

[20:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I sure don't think Bush is perfect, but he is the lesser of two evils

[20:20] <Barbara-VHL> 6rleem...Hi

[20:20] <Annie-VHL> that's right so our preachers should be encouraging the people to pray about it

[20:20] <jan-VHL> thats it the lesser of 2 evils

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> we have to be individual in all this

[20:20] <eden-VHL> There is NO hope in the political process, God rules the earth, "Your Will be done as it is in heaven"

[20:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bob, read Daniel. 2:21

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> trusting only in the Lord

[20:21] <jan-VHL> we are to preach the gospel

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jewdy, that may be so... but we should not be deluded into thinking that Bush is necessarily "God's man"

[20:21] <NewHarv-VHL> The lesser of two evils is still evil

[20:21] <called_out-VHL> 10Right Bob,

[20:21] <Annie-VHL> God's will has to prevail

[20:21] <Kathy-VHL> I dont think God is pleased as punch with either of them

[20:21] <Jewdy-VHL> 12True, but somebody is going to be elected, and I would rather think that he was more conservative thatn the other.

[20:21] <called_out-VHL> 10Time will tell what kind of man he is if he gets elected.

[20:22] <called_out-VHL> 10But, we already know for sure what kind of man Gore is.

[20:22] <jan-VHL> he has some ppl that are not for Israel

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> I mean, if he did turn out to be a Hezekiah or a Josiah, I would not complain - but if he did, he would probably be thrown out of office

[20:22] <Kathy-VHL> It will be the man God can use for his purpose to accomplish His will

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jan, very much so

[20:22] <eden-VHL> lol bob

[20:22] <rleem1-VHL> How do bible beliving, God fearing people support the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual platform of the Democratic party?

[20:22] <jan-VHL> oil is the word

[20:22] <Annie-VHL> To throw us into derision and think mabey we'll just say to heck with the whole election stuff

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> Like James Baker, who has come to the forefront already, and who is very very bad for Israel

[20:22] <jan-VHL> yep exactly

[20:22] <called_out-VHL> 10That is just it. By the time a man does what he has to do to get elected, he is corrupted.

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> Rleem, I don't think they should

[20:23] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I heard once that Cheney was not pro-Israel, any comments?

[20:23] <NewHarv-VHL> Really, Bob? Explain the Baker thing, if you will

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> Newharv, during the Bush administration....

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> James Baker was often deceiving, manipulating, etc Israel - blatantly so

[20:24] <Annie-VHL> Who said OIL that's the ticket!!

[20:24] <jan-VHL> Cheney too he works for oil co

[20:24] <VCI-Bob> Jewdy, Cheney was in the same crowd as Baker

[20:24] <VCI-Bob> right

[20:24] <Jewdy-VHL> 12That really surprised me

[20:24] <NewHarv-VHL> Has anyone considered the prospect that this whole charade is going to weaken America in the eyes of the world community?

[20:24] <jan-VHL> the church has been had

[20:24] <eden-VHL> gosh! they must be politicans!!!

[20:25] <NewHarv-VHL> Thereby making Israel more vulnerable to her enemies?

[20:25] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah, Newharv,

[20:25] <Annie-VHL> Yes Newharv

[20:25] <called_out-VHL> 10You don't get to such powerful positions without being self-serving and devious

[20:25] <jan-VHL> we need to stay focused on what Christ told us to do

[20:25] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jan

[20:25] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I think our power status in the world has diminished somewhat.

[20:25] <rleem1-VHL> Do you think that maybe God is giving us a chance to chose between men of integrity and those that will do anything to get elected?

[20:25] <eden-VHL> its the people who put you into office, who are they???

[20:26] <Kathy-VHL> the electorial college

[20:26] <VCI-Bob> Rleem, no, I don't look at it like that

[20:26] <jan-VHL> the first government was in babel

[20:26] <jan-VHL> and it aint improved any

[20:27] <eden-VHL> no jan, the first was in (Jer) Salem

[20:27] <NewHarv-VHL> Sooner or later, evil will run its course in this world - there is nothing we can do to stop that

[20:27] <Annie-VHL> I think this electorial college should be done away with

[20:27] <Jewdy-VHL> 12God is probably laughing at our calamity. Who is man that God is mindful of him?

[20:27] <rleem1-VHL> Bye all and pray for America

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[20:27] <jan-VHL> bye

[20:27] <Barbara-VHL> 6nite, rleem

[20:27] <called_out-VHL> 10Bye Rleem

[20:27] <Annie-VHL> Nite Rleem1 God Bless

[20:28] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bye rhleem

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> The point is this - the church should stop look at this election as some kind of solution, as if things will get better if Bush gets in office - yes, he is better than Gore, but he is not the answer

[20:28] <eden-VHL> right on!!!!

[20:28] <Annie-VHL> True - true Bob

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> Waving our American flags and singing God Bless America - it's way too late for that

[20:28] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Things can't get better in this world, only worse

[20:28] <NewHarv-VHL> That's right, Bob. Peter said we should place ALL our hopes on the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> Right, Newharv!

[20:29] <jan-VHL> Jesus was in an occupied co and he barely remarked on it

[20:29] <called_out-VHL> 10amen

[20:29] <Kathy-VHL> right that is where our hope is

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[20:29] <Annie-VHL> I pray that HE will hvae mercy on the US

[20:29] <eden-VHL> we serve a higher King and His government

[20:29] <jan-VHL> the answer is not in the white house

[20:29] <Annie-VHL> We have many children and I worry for them

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> Do you know why the Bible does not say much about what form of government to follow? Because they are ALL fatally flawed because of man's corruption, and will ALL be crushed by the government of Messiah Jesus when He returns

[20:30] <VCI-Bob> Right, Eden

[20:30] <Barbara-VHL> 6Amen..

[20:30] <jan-VHL> atten is sure off Israel

[20:30] <eden-VHL> Amen bob

[20:30] <NewHarv-VHL> "Therefore, gird your minds for action, keep sober i nspirit, fix your hope COMPLETELY on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ" 1 Pet. 1:13

[20:30] <called_out-VHL> 10Man is deceitefully wicked

[20:31] <Annie-VHL> I thought so too jan it's a deversion

[20:31] <Barbara-VHL> 6good one, NewHarv

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[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jan, but not here - we still know that God's plans revolve around Israel, not the US :)

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Honor

[20:31] <eden-VHL> only God can read the hearts and minds of man

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Amen, Newharv!

[20:31] <Barbara-VHL> 6AHi Honor

[20:31] <Honor-VHL> 6Hi Bob...good evening to one and all

[20:31] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Honor

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[20:31] <Annie-VHL> Hi Honor

[20:31] <Kathy-VHL> Hi honor

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Hi there Donna!

[20:31] <jan-VHL> Im curious as to why Barak is acting the way he is

[20:32] <Barbara-VHL> 6Hope...:-)

[20:32] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Shalome to All and Blessings

[20:32] <jan-VHL> hi

[20:32] <NewHarv-VHL> Annie, I have six children. I know how you feel. But just think, if we are the generation to see the end-times prophecies comes to pass - we have been CHOSEN by God to be the ones to live through it. He will be our strength.

[20:32] <Annie-VHL> Hi Hope

[20:32] <called_out-VHL> 10what do you mean Jan?

[20:32] <Honor-VHL> 6Well, before the chat get's very specific, anyone want to comment on the events of the day, Israel etc?

[20:32] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi Annie

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> Jan, he is hopelessly sold on the "peace process" (Barak) and won't drop it no matter how ridiculous it looks now

[20:32] <jan-VHL> he is either real dumb or somthings up

[20:32] <called_out-VHL> 10?

[20:32] <Barbara-VHL> 6Bob...can we pray for Stan, his family and VHL...?

[20:33] <jan-VHL> keeps holding back

[20:33] <eden-VHL> yes barbara

[20:33] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi Bob and Jan

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> He's not dumb, but he does have a reputation of being very stubborn, and trusting in his own intellect

[20:33] <jan-VHL> hi

[20:33] <Beverly-VHL> Hi everyone, I think I snuck in

[20:33] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Beverly

[20:33] <Barbara-VHL> 6Shalom, Beverly

[20:33] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Bev

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> Barbara, pray that if possible Stan might be able to acquire VHL

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[20:33] <Annie-VHL> Shalom Bev

[20:33] <jan-VHL> howdy bev

[20:34] <liz-VHL> wow that was quick

[20:34] <Honor-VHL> 6Looks like Israel is getting the back seat to this election follies

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Liz and Beverly!

[20:34] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Barbara

[20:34] <liz-VHL> hi all what have i missed

[20:34] <Barbara-VHL> 6Dear L'rd....we thank you so much for holding the world and all in it in your loving hands..

[20:34] <Annie-VHL> Hi Liz

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> We've been talking politics Liz, mostly

[20:34] <liz-VHL> have you gave your perspective on election yet BOB

[20:34] <Hope-Donna-VHL> yes Lord

[20:34] <Barbara-VHL> 6We know that you have a plan for Stan and his family and the future of VHL..

[20:34] <Annie-VHL> Go Barb

[20:35] <Honor-VHL> 6Somthing occured to me within the last few weeks. The Pope, I watch the news and keep up to date

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> A little Liz - let's pray for a minute

[20:35] <liz-VHL> tell me in summary what you said BOB please

[20:35] <Barbara-VHL> 6Help us, L'rd, to pray according to your will for him

[20:35] <liz-VHL> okay Bob

[20:35] <Beverly-VHL> Father , we trust You, we have faith in all Your ways

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> Lord Jesus, we honor you as our great God and King and Savior

[20:35] <Honor-VHL> 6It seems the Pope has dropped out of the news and has for some time anyone notice this too?

[20:35] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[20:35] <Beverly-VHL> Show us Your will, lead us in prayer

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> The only one who is worthy, and good

[20:35] <eden-VHL> Lord please find a solution because, "All things are possible for God"

[20:35] <jan-VHL> Amen

[20:35] <Barbara-VHL> 6We know , L'rd , that you own the cattle on a thousand hills...and that the ownership of VHL would be no problem for you...

[20:36] <called_out-VHL> 10Sweet Holy Spirit, please pray in our behalf to our Father, because the world is in such a mess that we don't know how to pray.

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> We pray for Stan, for VHL - that you will work out a solution according to your will

[20:36] <Barbara-VHL> 6Please, L'rd, keep VHL in the hands of a Christian

[20:36] <Beverly-VHL> Yes Lord!

[20:36] <Annie-VHL> Yes Lord

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> Grant Stan favor and wisdom in his discussions with VCI

[20:36] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Oh Lord Hear Us

[20:36] <eden-VHL> yes Lord

[20:36] <Barbara-VHL> 6Father, we wait upon you for your working in this situation

[20:36] <Beverly-VHL> Open a way for Vhl

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> We are confident in you, Lord

[20:36] <Barbara-VHL> 6We KNOW that You are in control, and all things will be done according to your will

[20:36] <called_out-VHL> 10We claim your promis Lord that you hear and answer the prayers of your children. Please be with Stan and his sweet family, protect them with your might hand.

[20:37] <eden-VHL> may your perfect will be done in this situation Lord

[20:37] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord, bless them greatly, and shelter them

[20:37] <Hope-Donna-VHL> We cry out to you Father G-D

[20:37] <Annie-VHL> You said you hold us in the palm of your hand

[20:37] <NewHarv-VHL> My soul waits in silence for God only, from Him is my salvation. He only is my Rock and my salvation. My stronghold: I shall not be greatly shaken.

[20:37] <Barbara-VHL> 6If it be your will, L';rd, may Stan keep his hands on VHl...that we would continue to have this incredible site to go to and be blessed

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> For those of you who are not aware, this letter describes the predicament of VHL: http://www.trumpetsounds.com/vhlcrisis.html

[20:38] <called_out-VHL> 10We praise your name, and give unending thanks for the Blessed Hope which is in Jesus.

[20:38] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yes, Honor, maybe he's too ill to get out now.

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Lord, Amen!

[20:38] <Barbara-VHL> 6We have a kinship here that goes beyond the natural, L'rd

[20:38] <Beverly-VHL> Lord, keep Your protection on Stan and his family

[20:38] <eden-VHL> In Jesus name Amen

[20:38] <called_out-VHL> 10Amen

[20:38] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[20:38] <NewHarv-VHL> Amen

[20:38] <jan-VHL> amen

[20:39] <Beverly-VHL> Thank You Father, amen

[20:39] <Barbara-VHL> 6Thank you L'rd for being among us this evening. Guard our tongues and hearts from anything that would grieve your Holy Spirit

[20:39] <Honor-VHL> 6Thanks to Jewdy for answearing me.

[20:39] <Barbara-VHL> 6jAmen...and Amen

[20:39] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Yes Lord

[20:39] <liz-VHL> brb

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[20:40] <Kathy-VHL> and everybody says

[20:40] <Annie-VHL> AMEN

[20:40] <Kathy-VHL> amen

[20:40] <called_out-VHL> 10amen

[20:40] <eden-VHL> amen

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> when considering what to discuss tonight..

[20:40] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[20:40] <Barbara-VHL> 6Amen

[20:40] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Why do you think he is keeping such a low profile?

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> this Scripture came to mind

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, (Jeremiah 18:7 NIV)

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. (Jeremiah 18:8 NIV)

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, (Jeremiah 18:9 NIV)

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it. (Jeremiah 18:10 NIV)

[20:41] <eden-VHL> ooooooo dear!!!!

[20:41] <called_out-VHL> 10There's still time for the US to repent.

[20:41] <Annie-VHL> OH Lord have mercy on us and forgive our sins

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> but we have to consider all that God has said

[20:41] <Hope-Donna-VHL> thanks for those scriptures Bob

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> He says all nations will come against Israel

[20:41] <jan-VHL> we know in the end all nations abondon Israel

[20:42] <called_out-VHL> 10There is nothing like the word to lift your spirits.

[20:42] <Jewdy-VHL> 12We may be like Sodom where very few righteous can be found

[20:42] <Beverly-VHL> I think this election shows what side of the fence of righteousness the US is on

[20:42] <jan-VHL> and were vexed like lot

[20:42] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I so hope for our country's sake it can do a turn about face

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> These are sobering times, friends - the world is going crazy around us in it's rush to rebel agains the Lord - and we must stand firm in holiness of our conduct

[20:43] <Kathy-VHL> very true Bob

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jan

[20:43] <eden-VHL> true

[20:43] <Kathy-VHL> and that is becoming very dificult

[20:43] <Annie-VHL> That's right Bob by our love they will know us

[20:43] <Hope-Donna-VHL> yes we must be faithful

[20:44] <Barbara-VHL> 6A friend of mine told me in church last evening that he had heard somewhere that they had discovered an ancient road...made from large stones (such as I saw inb Israel)...all the way from somewhere in China to the Jordan River!!! and that this would no doubt be the way that the great Chinese army will be able to march into Israel

[20:44] <NewHarv-VHL> Remember, when Paul wrote his letters it was under an oppressive government

[20:44] <called_out-VHL> 10We need to pray and more.....be willing to go to jail if need be for our stand.

[20:44] <jan-VHL> someday we may have to make some choises we wont like

[20:44] <Kathy-VHL> it is going to get harder and harder to stand and we must have the help of the Holy Spirit to stand

[20:44] <Barbara-VHL> 6Have you heard anything about this,Bob...anyone?

[20:44] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Barbara? see if you can get some more info on that - I have not heard

[20:44] <NewHarv-VHL> But in Galatians, Paul , after he described the fruit of the Spirit, he said against such things THERE IS NO LAW

[20:44] <Jewdy-VHL> 12That's interesting, Barbara

[20:45] <Barbara-VHL> 6I meant to call him tonight to get the full story (had missed first part), but forgot.

[20:45] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Wow Barb

[20:45] <Beverly-VHL> You're right, New, he was most effective in areas where they were intolerant

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> Right, Newharv - we must remember that we cannot succumb to fear in the days ahead, because fearful days will come

[20:45] <Barbara-VHL> 6Will call him tomorrow and e-mail you whatever I find out

[20:45] <jan-VHL> Has anyone read the Antipas papers

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> thanks, Barb :)

[20:45] <called_out-VHL> 10Jan ?

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> no, Jan - what is that?

[20:45] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Antipas papers?

[20:46] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I'm not fearful but so sad

[20:46] <Annie-VHL> what are they?

[20:46] <jan-VHL> its asite I ran into some interresting insights

[20:46] <jan-VHL> He writer is a x cia agent

[20:46] <NewHarv-VHL> Yes Jan, I've read some

[20:46] <Kathy-VHL> I have been to that site Jan but it has been a while

[20:46] <jan-VHL> what do ya think

[20:47] <called_out-VHL> 10What is the theme of the site Jan?

[20:47] <Jewdy-VHL> 12about what Jan?

[20:47] <jan-VHL> last days

[20:47] <Annie-VHL> How do you tap into that site?

[20:47] <Kathy-VHL> I would have to refresh my mind on the papers before I can comment

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Donna - I feel the same - but we must be careful also to not let ourselves become overwhelmed by the confusion around us - many who call themselves Christians will be going in many directions not ordained by the Lord - we must expect these things

[20:47] <NewHarv-VHL> Post-trib, anti-political, some good insights into biblical prophecy. They advocate home churches

[20:47] <jan-VHL> yiks im puter dumb

[20:47] <NewHarv-VHL> www.endtimesnetwork.com

[20:48] <VCI-Bob> Thanks, Newharv - we'll check that out

[20:48] <Hope-Donna-VHL> What was Barak talking about the other night on cespn

[20:48] <Barbara-VHL> 6I heard that they cut away from Barak...for Gore!

[20:48] <Barbara-VHL> 6Priorities!!!

[20:48] <Beverly-VHL> figures

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> I saw Barak today on Cspan2, from a speech Monday in Chicago

[20:49] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Our media is so biased for Gore, except maybe the Fox network.

[20:49] <NewHarv-VHL> I heard that when Clinton met with Barak he was totally focused on the election mess and barely gave Barak the time of day

[20:49] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Yes they did

[20:49] <jan-VHL> barak still holds out hope for the oslo accord????????

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jan

[20:49] <called_out-VHL> 10What is wrong with that man?

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> He still speaks in terms of salvaging the Oslo peace process

[20:49] <NewHarv-VHL> What do you think about the possibility of early elections in Israel, Bob?

[20:50] <jan-VHL> i dont get that at all

[20:50] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Why doesn't he just give it a rest?

[20:50] <Hope-Donna-VHL> what is the oslo

[20:50] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I heard they had cut off funding to the PA. I think it's about time they wised up.

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Newharv, for now, Shas is hold up Barak, for a 30 day period based on an agreement they made (more like bribery really)

[20:50] <Beverly-VHL> Thanks for the tip on

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> after that, his government is very tenuous

[20:51] <Beverly-VHL> Fox,

[20:51] <NewHarv-VHL> I'm in amazement there hasn't been a no-confidence vote yet.

[20:51] <Beverly-VHL> I thought they were all pro gore

[20:51] <jan-VHL> think he is trying to save his behind

[20:51] <Jewdy-VHL> 12No, OReilly is pretty much against him.

[20:51] <VCI-Bob> There were a few, but they did not pass, Newharv

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Netanyahu has been a little more visible the last few days

[20:52] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I liked Bibi, even though he didn't do everything right, either.

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> he showed up at Gilo yesterday, I think it was, with Olmhert

[20:52] <Beverly-VHL> Did anyone see Dutch Sheets on 700 club?

[20:52] <NewHarv-VHL> Hope - the Oslo accords is the "peace process" started in 1993 between Israel and the Palestinians(among others)

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Beverly, I did see that

[20:53] <Annie-VHL> No I didn't

[20:53] <jan-VHL> he is either nuts or we dont know what the full story is[barak]

[20:53] <Jewdy-VHL> 12No, Bev

[20:53] <called_out-VHL> 10What did he say Bev?

[20:53] <NewHarv-VHL> The agreement called for certain concessions from Israel (mainly LAND) for the return promise of "peace and security" from the Palestinians

[20:53] <Beverly-VHL> I liked his prayer, he said "there is a battle in the heavenlies for the soul of this nation"

[20:53] <called_out-VHL> 10amen to that Bev.

[20:53] <jan-VHL> sombody better tell Israel about the Indians

[20:54] <Annie-VHL> Hope you getting this what NewHarv said on Oslo

[20:54] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I agree

[20:54] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Bob I need to know something I can't type very fast so I ordered a program from AOL speak program but it has Dragon emblem in a few places and I 'm scared to use it should I be worried about it?

[20:54] <Beverly-VHL> If christians pray, righteousness will prevail...I think we know that, but good encouragement

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> Beverly, I'm sorry to disagree, but this nation's soul was long ago sold out - I don't see it that way - If Christians pray, Jesus will prevail, but there is no guarantee that righteousness will win out

[20:55] <called_out-VHL> 10Right, Bob, we are approaching

[20:55] <called_out-VHL> 10the time when good will not win out

[20:55] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I got it Annie

[20:55] <eden-VHL> only Jesus can prevail

[20:55] <called_out-VHL> 10and I think the time is at the door.

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> we are in the last days, and to look at it that way is foolish - sorry - the rebellionis going to sweep the world, and we must stand firm - but we will not "win" just by praying

[20:55] <called_out-VHL> 10right

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> We will "win" when Jesus shows up to defeat the forces of evil

[20:56] <called_out-VHL> 10We can expect a very perioulous time

[20:56] <jan-VHL> we cant take back this nation for Christ either not in politics

[20:56] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Prais G-d

[20:56] <NewHarv-VHL> We have to remember, the Lord Jesus is building HIS kingdom, making HIS bride ready for His return. He is not in the business of creating Theocracies anymore - that was the old covenant

[20:56] <eden-VHL> jan - not in any way

[20:56] <NewHarv-VHL> And His bride and His kingdom transcend earthly borders and nations

[20:56] <jan-VHL> thats covent thelogy

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> Right - there is so much talk of "taking back" the nation and "taking dominion" over evil and it's pure foolishness, and bad theology

[20:57] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Then what are you guys praying for?

[20:57] <Beverly-VHL> Ninevah repented

[20:57] <jan-VHL> plays into the hand of the enemy

[20:57] <called_out-VHL> 10The Glory of God to be made manifest.

[20:57] <called_out-VHL> 10That is why God created us, for His Glory.

[20:58] <called_out-VHL> 10Everything that happens happens for His Glory.

[20:58] <jan-VHL> we are not of this world this system is condemned

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> The glory of God will be made manifest when Jesus returns in glory, not before

[20:58] <NewHarv-VHL> I pray for the day that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father

[20:58] <called_out-VHL> 10Amen Bob

[20:58] <eden-VHL> amen newH

[20:58] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[20:58] <called_out-VHL> 10when every knee shall bow.

[20:58] <jan-VHL> and he brings in rightessness not us

[20:58] <Jewdy-VHL> 12God's will is going to be done regardless of what man does, but he still wants us to pray. God might extend his hand of mercy a little longer so someone could be saved.

[20:59] <Beverly-VHL> Yes, I agree Jewdy

[20:59] <Annie-VHL> God is the judge of all and I believe HE WILL hear our prayers for this country and have mercy on us and for the peace of Jerusalem

[20:59] <eden-VHL> amen jewdy

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> It really irks me that there is so much bad teaching out there that leads people to false hopes and false avenues of activity, and will lead some even into the deception of the antichrist

[20:59] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Oh I pray so

[20:59] <jan-VHL> thats what we need to do preach the gospel so that some might turn

[20:59] <NewHarv-VHL> Do you remember what John said, after seeing all the terrifying images of the Revelation and the last days?

[20:59] <called_out-VHL> 10God will have mercy on his children....those that are called by His name.

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> Tell us, Newharv

[21:00] <Annie-VHL> yes called out

[21:00] <NewHarv-VHL> Even so, Come Lord Jesus

[21:00] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Halleuia

[21:00] <jan-VHL> AMEN

[21:00] <eden-VHL> PTL

[21:00] <called_out-VHL> 10amen NewHarv

[21:00] <Barbara-VHL> 6Gonna say Shalom, ...always wonderful to be with you...

[21:00] <Annie-VHL> PTL

[21:00] <jan-VHL> ps hurry

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Barbara

[21:00] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bye Barbara

[21:00] <called_out-VHL> 10bye Barbara, sleep well.

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> Amen, Newharv, and Jan :)

[21:00] <eden-VHL> jan, lol

[21:00] <Beverly-VHL> Bye Barb

[21:00] <Barbara-VHL> 6thank you...I WILL!

[21:00] <jan-VHL> bye barb

[21:01] <Barbara-VHL> 6G'd bless

[21:01] <NewHarv-VHL> Most of the time, that's how I feel - just let it happen, Lord. Come quickly

[21:01] <eden-VHL> shalom barb

[21:01] <Annie-VHL> bye Barb God Bless

[21:01] <NewHarv-VHL> Goodnight, Barb

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[21:01] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I have unsaved children so I hope G-D is patient awhile longer

[21:01] <jan-VHL> keep praying

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> That's why He is waiting, Donna, because of His patience

[21:01] <Annie-VHL> We do too Hope alot of them

[21:01] <called_out-VHL> 10Me too Hope-Donna, but I do long for that day.

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> but it will not be much longer

[21:02] <jan-VHL> We need to be on our knees pleading for the ones who are on our hearts

[21:02] <called_out-VHL> 10I have turned into a wild fanatic....preaching to all my lost family, they are beginning

[21:02] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I pray all day sometimes

[21:02] <NewHarv-VHL> And who knows, but that if we have been faithful to tell of the things that will come, those who wouldn't listen before, will listen when they see it all come to pass

[21:02] <called_out-VHL> 10to avoid me. But I don't care, I want them all safely in.

[21:03] <eden-VHL> called pray for the spirit of the anit christ to be removed from your lost ones then they will hear the Truth

[21:03] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I to long for that day

[21:03] <called_out-VHL> 10I would rather they turn on me....than for them to be lost

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9 NIV)

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. (2 Peter 3:10 NIV)

[21:03] <called_out-VHL> 10Thank you eden. I will

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives (2 Peter 3:11 NIV)

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. (2 Peter 3:12 NIV)

[21:04] <Annie-VHL> we have a mixture a few that believe and quite a few that don't

[21:04] <jan-VHL> the deciples didnt win popularity contests either

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. (2 Peter 3:13 NIV)

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation

[21:04] <eden-VHL> they were martys all - jan

[21:04] <jan-VHL> and no more battles with sin!!!!!

[21:04] <called_out-VHL> 10No more sickness or pain.

[21:04] <Beverly-VHL> zHope, do you know Isaiah 44:3? The Lord told me to pray this scripture for my boys, who don't know Him

[21:04] <NewHarv-VHL> But, remember everyone, "But you brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day"

[21:04] <called_out-VHL> 10No more hate or war.

[21:05] <Beverly-VHL> Maybe you could pray it too, Hope

[21:05] <eden-VHL> amen newH

[21:05] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Thanks Bev

[21:05] <VCI-Bob> Yes!

[21:06] <Annie-VHL> Have to leave now God Bless you all and keep you steady in HIM

[21:06] <jan-VHL> well I got to go to work take care all

[21:06] <eden-VHL> God Bless you annie

[21:06] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bye, Annie and Jan

[21:06] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Yes I will thanks so much

[21:06] <NewHarv-VHL> Good night and bless you Annie and jan

[21:06] <called_out-VHL> 10Bye Annie and Jan.

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> Bye Annie! God bless!

[21:06] <eden-VHL> GBY jan

[21:06] <Beverly-VHL> Goodnight to you both, annie and Jan

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> And you too Jan! Shalom!

[21:06] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Shalome Annie and Jan

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[21:07] <eden-VHL> Shalom Delta

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Delta!

[21:07] <NewHarv-VHL> I know we all have unsaved love ones, but what I think about alot is how very many unborn babies are being slaughtered day after day. So many children being abused and harmed. I look forward to the day when the Lord puts an end to it.

[21:07] <Delta-VHL> :->Shalom!

[21:07] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Delta :)

[21:07] <Beverly-VHL> Hi Delta

[21:07] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bob, getting back to Israel, is Iraq still waiting patiently in the background?

[21:07] <NewHarv-VHL> Hi Delta!

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Harv, no more cruelty, brutality, injustice

[21:08] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hello Delta

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[21:08] <Delta-VHL> hi? I am

[21:08] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Delta

[21:08] <NewHarv-VHL> I feel like I'm willing to go through anything to see that glorious day

[21:08] <Delta-VHL> lol

[21:08] <called_out-VHL> 10Yes NewHarv...thank God, these babies will go directly to the Lord.

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> Jewdy, you can be sure that if things heat up, Iraq will move in some way to capitalize on it

[21:08] <eden-VHL> newH its like the children being given to Molech, "there is nothing new under the sun"

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> Hey there Bez!

[21:08] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Are their troops still parked closed to Jordan?

[21:08] <NewHarv-VHL> I absolutely agree, eden

[21:08] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Good Evening All!

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> No, Jewdy

[21:08] <Delta-VHL> Bez! Ol' buddy, ol' pal!

[21:08] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi Bez

[21:08] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Bez, :)

[21:08] <Delta-VHL> Bob?

[21:09] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hi Bez

[21:09] <NewHarv-VHL> But, Syria recently moved their troops south, no?

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth; he breaks the bow and shatters the spear, he burns the shields with fire. (Psalms 46:9 NIV)

[21:09] <eden-VHL> Hi Bez

[21:09] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Syria, did? That's one I want to keep my eye on. We know about Damascus still to be fulfilled.

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> There was some movement, Newharv, but apparently not decisive - but the situation with Lebanon and Syria is very very tense

[21:10] <Delta-VHL> I hope they wait three weeks! :->

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> one little incident could set it all off

[21:10] <Jewdy-VHL> 12What about those Russian planes flying so close to our ship?

[21:10] <Hope-Donna-VHL> It's got to be very close now

[21:10] <NewHarv-VHL> Yes, there has always been rebellion in the Chouf region, Syria is moving troops that way. But I just wonder if that is a smokescreen

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> What's that, Jewdy?

[21:10] <called_out-VHL> 10It would take only a small incident to...you beat me to it Bob

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:10] <Delta-VHL> lol

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> This week, in addressing the Islamic convention...

[21:11] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Two Russian planes played games with one of our ships yesterday or day before. We said we saw them coming, but they say pictures show panic on deck.

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> Assad was very belligerent and bellicose in his speech towards Israel

[21:11] <Beverly-VHL> Where was that? The Gulf?

[21:11] <Delta-VHL> :-( Assad AND Russian planes

[21:11] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I think we need to watch Assad. He was trained by the master

[21:11] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Jewdy, the Russians needed the morale boost. The US Navy wouldn't allow a flight to get that close without detection.

[21:12] <called_out-VHL> 10I agree Bez.

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> He sounds much like his father, Jewdy

[21:12] <Delta-VHL> Who knows nowadays?

[21:12] <eden-VHL> Radar, Bez :-)

[21:12] <Jewdy-VHL> 12True

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> any thoughts of him being "moderate" have been dispelled

[21:12] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Radar, AWACs, EA6B, and a few other "things", Eden.

[21:13] <eden-VHL> yup

[21:13] <Delta-VHL> His uncle has done a good job "grooming" him these past few months

[21:13] <NewHarv-VHL> He is under the thumb of his father's cronies

[21:13] <Delta-VHL> GMTA NewHarv!

[21:13] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Has anybody seen any pictures of the Israeli victims on American TV? The won't publish them.

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> here are some stories from Arutz Sheva:

[21:13] <NewHarv-VHL> GMTA?

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> A Bir Zeit University [an Arab university near Ramallah] poll - in questions directed to some 1200 Palestinians in some 75 locations in Judea, Samaria and Gaza - has found that some 80% of Palestinians support suicide attacks against Israeli targets, while 73% support striking US interests. Prof. Murray Kahl reports that support for armed or suicide attacks against Israelis increased since 1995, when a third of Palestinians said they supported such acts

[21:14] <Delta-VHL> (Great Minds Think Alike)

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> The percentage of those who opposed suicide attacks in the Bir Zeit poll was only 15% though it had reached 60% in different periods in recent years. Some 55% of Palestinians said they believed the Rosh HaShanah Arab Assault, which the Palestinians are calling their "Al-Aqsa Intifada," will continue for months or years.

[21:14] <NewHarv-VHL> Ah...but of course!

[21:14] <Delta-VHL> Oh gee, just go through Israel to get to us, eh, Bob?

[21:14] <eden-VHL> guerilla warfare now????

[21:15] <NewHarv-VHL> And, what about Syria allowing Palestinians back into their country

[21:15] <Delta-VHL> It's not good Eden.

[21:15] <Delta-VHL> NewHarv....why doesn't Syria just give part of their land to be "Palestine"?

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> I wish I could find the quote from Assad - something like "Israel are the new Nazis"

[21:15] <Delta-VHL> Oh, can I say that Bob?

[21:15] <eden-VHL> the hardest warfare to deal with delta

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> you can say whatever your opinion is, Delta :)

[21:15] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Here is an interesting site: members.home.net/projectonesoul

[21:15] <called_out-VHL> 10I read that somewhere too Bob.

[21:16] <Delta-VHL> Arafat and others have been calling Israel "Nazi's:" Even Putin has

[21:16] <Delta-VHL> grrrr

[21:16] <Delta-VHL> Good, Bob, don't wanna get us in trouble in here!

[21:16] <called_out-VHL> 10:-(

[21:16] <eden-VHL> blaming the victims now eh delta???

[21:16] <Delta-VHL> Bob? Can I tell them my news? Huh?

[21:17] <Delta-VHL> Looks like they are, Eden

[21:17] <called_out-VHL> 10listening Delta

[21:17] <Beverly-VHL> Yes, tell us

[21:17] <Delta-VHL> My passport came today so....

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> go ahead :)

[21:17] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Go Delta

[21:17] <Delta-VHL> in approx two weeks, guess where I will be? :-)

[21:17] <called_out-VHL> 10You are going to Israel?

[21:17] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Israel!

[21:17] <Hope-Donna-VHL> go- go - go

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> :-) YES!

[21:18] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You international traveller, you :-)

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> And,

[21:18] <Jewdy-VHL> 12You'll never be the same

[21:18] <called_out-VHL> 10You Go Girl

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> I get an extra day!

[21:18] <eden-VHL> good for you delta, go for it!!!!

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> And,

[21:18] <Beverly-VHL> Wow, neat! Mozel tov (can I say that?)

[21:18] <called_out-VHL> 10and?

[21:18] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You're taking Bez with you? Delta?

[21:18] <called_out-VHL> 10and Called Out?

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> my doc who is Jewish says it's not dangerous, just stay away from bullets!

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> lol

[21:18] <eden-VHL> and all your tools too Bez???

[21:18] <Jewdy-VHL> 12and Jewdy?

[21:19] <Hope-Donna-VHL> lol

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Umm, don't know if you can fit in my suitcase :-)

[21:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yup, toolkit in hand.

[21:19] <Beverly-VHL> Good advice

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Anyone want postcards? LOL

[21:19] <called_out-VHL> 10I am very small Delta.

[21:19] <called_out-VHL> 10Won't take up much room at all.

[21:19] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Just keep moving fast.

[21:19] <eden-VHL> watch the metal detectors "Bez

[21:19] <called_out-VHL> 10Only 5 ft. and 110 lbs.

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Bob, don't you think customs might find them?

[21:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-)

[21:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12They went through my suitcase at customs in Israel. So embarrassing.

[21:20] <Beverly-VHL> Tools?

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> uh oh Jewdy

[21:20] <called_out-VHL> 10Why embarrassing Jewdy?

[21:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah , I think it was because it was so big

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> Oh dear

[21:20] <eden-VHL> Bez is going to rebuild the new temple bev

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> Now they measure everything, I heard.

[21:20] <Hope-Donna-VHL> don't forget your spiritual war sheild

[21:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Because I felt like they thought I was guilty of something.

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> Donna, I have angels all around!

[21:20] <Beverly-VHL> Hey, great idea!

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> :-)

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[21:21] <VCI-Bob> It's interesting to see how the media attempts to manipulate opinion - listening to an NPR piece this week on Syria's reforms under Bashur Assad, you'd think they were an altogether enlightened and peace loving democracy

[21:21] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen and the word in your heart

[21:21] <NewHarv-VHL> Must go all. It's been so refreshing. Bob, I will pray about the VHL situation. I've only just found this site, I would be so sad to see it go!

[21:21] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Kind of like when the sounds go off at Wal Mart

[21:21] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Why not, Bob. Arafat is a Nobel laureate...

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> See ya Newharv! Don't worry, we are not going anywhere :) Just pray

[21:21] <Delta-VHL> Bob....you guys have probably done the US political thing into the ground, but

[21:21] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Harv

[21:22] <Beverly-VHL> Shalom, NewHarv

[21:22] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah, right, Bob

[21:22] <eden-VHL> shalom newH

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> Yeah, Bez, a real olive branch kinda guy :)

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> Shalom NewHarv

[21:22] <called_out-VHL> 10Sleep well Harv.

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:22] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Night Harv

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> Bob, do you think the pres election thing has affected the PA/Israeli situation?

[21:22] <eden-VHL> bob, tut tut, :-)

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[21:22] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Goodnight NewHarv and Blessings

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> Eden? I hear Steve Martin in my head! LOL

[21:23] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hearing voices, now, Delta?

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> Affected? Well, as I said earlier, it's no surprise that the likes of James Baker has popped to the forefront already for Bush

[21:23] <eden-VHL> LOL

[21:23] <Delta-VHL> LOL yeah, the song "King Tut:" Bez

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> and he is NO friend to Israel

[21:24] <Delta-VHL> You think that is why Cheney, Powell, and Schwartzkopf (sp?) are in there too?

[21:24] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I heard one account that said Baker was a surprise, since Bush Sr. was angry over some of the things Baker did in Israel.

[21:24] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Who is for Israel then?

[21:24] <Beverly-VHL> Kathy, have you been here long?

[21:24] <Jewdy-VHL> 12You think we might be needing some military advisors, Delta?

[21:24] <Delta-VHL> Oh yeah, absolutely Jewdy

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> Bez, Bush Sr was not angry - he was just as bad and an accomplice

[21:25] <Delta-VHL> Don'tcha think Bob?

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[21:25] <VCI-Bob> here's a news item from Ha'artetz:

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> Finance Ministry officials say that Prime Minister Ehud Barak did not order the treasury to stop transferring funds to the Palestinian Authority. The transfer of funds to the PA in October was in fact delayed, but it was due to economic circumstances related to the Intifada in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> The treasury's announcement contradicts Barak's earlier statement, that Israel had stopped funding the Palestinian Authority because of security considerations and as a sanction on the PA in response to the Intifada.

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> This month, Israel transferred NIS 67.5 million out of the NIS 114 million that it owes to the PA.

[21:25] <eden-VHL> all of us we couldn't do a worse job than them:-)

[21:25] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah, Bush Sr. is mentioned the New World Order. That should tell you something there.

[21:25] <Kathy-VHL> what do you mean Bev I was away for a few and trying to catch up on the reading

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> right - he not only mentioned it, he championed it

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> Well, then, why isn't the PA people better off?

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> we should not be so naive about the Bush administrations intentions

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> (sorry, sarcasm does not become me)

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> it's the same old gang

[21:26] <Beverly-VHL> I just first noticed your name since I signed on, didn't know if you'd just come in

[21:27] <Kathy-VHL> oh lol yea I have been here a while

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> Bob, I feel like it's picking the best of the worst. Ya know?

[21:27] <called_out-VHL> 10Right Bob, same old, same old. Just different talking heads.

[21:27] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi kathy

[21:27] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bob, do you think Gore/Liberman would do better with Israel?

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> Oh dear...Called, I am in a musical mood.

[21:27] <liz-VHL507> what bob

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> picking the best of the worst - like picking the best rotten tomato to eat?

[21:27] <eden-VHL> PA not better off because they KNOW its not their land trying to usurp it

[21:27] <called_out-VHL> 10Go for it Delat.

[21:27] <called_out-VHL> 10sorry, meant Delta.

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> Or, Bob, picking a rotten tomato than you can cut the rot away and eat SOME of it

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> LOL Called

[21:28] <liz-VHL507> so bush not a christian

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> You said "talking heads" Reminded me of a musical group

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> you eat the rot, I'll obstain :)

[21:28] <Hope-Donna-VHL> lol

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> No, LOL Bob....throw the rot away and eat the good part! :-)

[21:28] <liz-VHL507> whats bad about Bush Bob

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Bush says he is, Liz, and maybe so, but the power brokers are the same gang

[21:28] <Hope-Donna-VHL> You guys are terrible

[21:29] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> What, Donna?;-)

[21:29] <eden-VHL> she said innocently!

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> ROFL

[21:29] <Hope-Donna-VHL> What hope do we have then?

[21:29] <liz-VHL507> sso whats your thoughts bob i had to leave fopr a while...what do you think the outcome will be

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> Beverly....are you here?

[21:29] <Beverly-VHL> Yes, still here thanks

[21:30] <Delta-VHL> My puter did some weird things to Beverly's name on my screen, sorry

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in princes. (Psalms 118:9 NIV)

[21:30] <Delta-VHL> AMEN! Bob

[21:30] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Amen, Bob!

[21:30] <eden-VHL> amen

[21:30] <Delta-VHL> Where in Exodus is "Some trust in horses..."

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in princes. (Psalms 118:9 NIV)

[21:30] <Beverly-VHL> I DO trust Him, I just hurt for those babies!

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal men, who cannot save. (Psalms 146:3 NIV)

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. (Psalms 146:4 NIV)

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> Blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob, whose hope is in the LORD his God, (Psalms 146:5 NIV)

[21:31] <eden-VHL> eh? my kingdom for a horse?

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> Go, BOB!

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[21:31] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:31] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bob, did you vote for Buchanan, Nader, or Phillips?

[21:31] <called_out-VHL> 10I sure hope we aren't sitting here 10 years from now. I pray that we are not misinterpreting things.

[21:31] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Thats true but which politician can we harrass that might hear our plea for Israel?

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them-- the LORD, who remains faithful forever. (Psalms 146:6 NIV)

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> He upholds the cause of the oppressed and gives food to the hungry. The LORD sets prisoners free, (Psalms 146:7 NIV)

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> the LORD gives sight to the blind, the LORD lifts up those who are bowed down, the LORD loves the righteous. (Psalms 146:8 NIV)

[21:31] <liz-VHL507> amen

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> no, Jewdy

[21:31] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Just checking

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Catalina!

[21:31] <eden-VHL> oh yes, love it

[21:32] <Beverly-VHL> Hi Catalina

[21:32] <eden-VHL> hi Cat

[21:32] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi Cat

[21:32] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hello Cat

[21:32] <called_out-VHL> 10Hi Catalina ;>

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> I have a good passage from Isaiah:

[21:32] <Delta-VHL> meow?

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood since the earth was founded? (Isaiah 40:21 NIV)

[21:32] <Delta-VHL> oops, sorry Cat, just kidding!

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[21:33] <VCI-Bob> He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. (Isaiah 40:22 NIV)

[21:33] <liz-VHL507> cat says hi but she needs to back out and log back in its all messed up

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[21:33] <Hope-Donna-VHL> sorry I didn't say hello to eden

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> He brings princes to naught and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing. (Isaiah 40:23 NIV)

[21:33] <Delta-VHL> Yeah GOD!

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> No sooner are they planted, no sooner are they sown, no sooner do they take root in the ground, than he blows on them and they wither, and a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff. (Isaiah 40:24 NIV)

[21:33] <liz-VHL507> i love those bob

[21:33] <eden-VHL> hope-donna hi

[21:33] <called_out-VHL> 10amen, Brother, preach on!!

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> "To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?" says the Holy One. (Isaiah 40:25 NIV)

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name. Because of his great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing. (Isaiah 40:26 NIV)

[21:34] <eden-VHL> woohoo!!!!! go for it bob

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> Isaiah preaches - I just paste :)

[21:34] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Wow, that helps the whim, whams

[21:34] <Catalina-VHL> Hi all, my computer is doing some funny things

[21:34] <Delta-VHL> ROFL

[21:34] <Delta-VHL> You ok Catalina?

[21:34] <Jewdy-VHL> 12WOW

[21:34] <called_out-VHL> 10But, you do it so well Bob.

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:34] <Delta-VHL> ;-):-):->

[21:34] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Do y ou have a Rodney Dangerfield virus, Cat?

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[21:35] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I nominate Bob for President

[21:35] <Catalina-VHL> yes I am fine

[21:35] <Catalina-VHL> heheheh

[21:35] <called_out-VHL> 10There is absolutly nothing like the Word.

[21:35] <Hope-Donna-VHL> you do Bob

[21:35] <liz-VHL507> amen bob those are great

[21:35] <Delta-VHL> (groaner coming, Bez!)

[21:35] <DonB-VHL> Shalom everyone

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> here's another good one

[21:35] <called_out-VHL> 10Word for all the ages.

[21:35] <Delta-VHL> Jesus for President! yeah!

[21:35] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Don!

[21:35] <Beverly-VHL> HI Don

[21:35] <DonB-VHL> hi Delta

[21:35] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah, Delta

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> This is what the LORD says-- the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel-- to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation, to the servant of rulers: "Kings will see you and rise up, princes will see and bow down, because of the LORD, who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you." (Isaiah 49:7 NIV)

[21:35] <called_out-VHL> 10Yeah!

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Don!

[21:35] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Don

[21:35] <eden-VHL> We vote for that and HE WON

[21:35] <Beverly-VHL> Jesus is our King!

[21:35] <DonB-VHL> Hi Bob

[21:36] <DonB-VHL> Hi Hope

[21:36] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hi Don

[21:36] <called_out-VHL> 10We need to be reminded Bob. Thank you.

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> This is what the LORD says: "In the time of my favor I will answer you, and in the day of salvation I will help you; I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people, to restore the land and to reassign its desolate inheritances, (Isaiah 49:8 NIV)

[21:36] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Don

[21:36] <DonB-VHL> Hi Jewdy

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> to say to the captives, 'Come out,' and to those in darkness, 'Be free!' "They will feed beside the roads and find pasture on every barren hill. (Isaiah 49:9 NIV)

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> They will neither hunger nor thirst, nor will the desert heat or the sun beat upon them. He who has compassion on them will guide them and lead them beside springs of water. (Isaiah 49:10 NIV)

[21:36] <Delta-VHL> oooh, reassign...I like that!

[21:36] <DonB-VHL> Hi Bezalel

[21:36] <called_out-VHL> 10Be Free!

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Isaiah sure had a way with words, huh!!!!

[21:36] <Delta-VHL> :->

[21:36] <called_out-VHL> 10PTL

[21:36] <eden-VHL> love old Isa

[21:37] <Beverly-VHL> Wow , that Isaiah is something

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[21:37] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[21:37] <called_out-VHL> 10springs of water, !!

[21:37] <Delta-VHL> Daniel's cool too

[21:37] <Beverly-VHL> He' s like the OT Paul

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[21:37] <called_out-VHL> 10yeah Daniel

[21:37] <VCI-Bob> And this, sums up what we pray for Israel, once again:

[21:37] <VCI-Bob> This is what the LORD says: "In the time of my favor I will answer you, and in the day of salvation I will help you; I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people, to restore the land and to reassign its desolate inheritances, (Isaiah 49:8 NIV)

[21:37] <Delta-VHL> I like all the OT prophets

[21:37] <eden-VHL> and old Jerry and my favourite old Eze

[21:37] <VCI-Bob> That the day of His favor comes

[21:37] <Delta-VHL> Yeah....there it is again...."reassign"!

[21:38] <Delta-VHL> restore and reassign. Hopeful!

[21:38] <eden-VHL> to give to others = reassign, yeah!!!!

[21:38] <Delta-VHL> or to give back to Israel?

[21:38] <VCI-Bob> This is that verse that Paul quotes about "the day of salvation"

[21:39] <Delta-VHL> (sorry, narrow minded for the next two weeks!)

[21:39] <eden-VHL> yes thats what I meant

[21:39] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Glory Glory when that time will come

[21:39] <Delta-VHL> www.trumpetsounds.com has some pretty good writings on that..:-)

[21:40] <VCI-Bob> And ultimately, the Messiah Jesus is the one who fulfills this - a covenant for the people

[21:40] <VCI-Bob> Ooo a shameless plug for my website :)

[21:40] <Delta-VHL> ROFL! At least I didn't plug mine! :-)

[21:40] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:40] <Delta-VHL> But Bob's is really, really good!

[21:40] <eden-VHL> now your paying delata bob???

[21:40] <eden-VHL> oops delta

[21:40] <Hope-Donna-VHL> You guys make me laugh

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> looks like it, huh Eden? :)

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> No, Stan pays Bez

[21:41] <DonB-VHL> 14me too!

[21:41] <called_out-VHL> 10Hate to go, but took muscel relaxer, have pain...getting very sleeeeepy.

[21:41] <DonB-VHL> 14LOL

[21:41] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Did anybody miss the plug. That's www.trumpetsounds.com

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Night, Calledout

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> Ouch, called. Shalom!

[21:41] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bob did you get that website I mentioned a while ago?

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[21:41] <VCI-Bob> LOL

[21:41] <called_out-VHL> 10Nite :)

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> See? then Bob pays Bez

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> Then I take the tips

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> which one, Jewdy?

[21:41] <Beverly-VHL> Sleep well, Called

[21:41] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Goodnight called-out

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[21:41] <Jewdy-VHL> 12www..memebers.home.net/projectonesoul

[21:41] <Jewdy-VHL> 12members

[21:42] <Beverly-VHL> What is that site, political?

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[21:42] <Delta-VHL> Good, that will be in the transcript, right?

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> thanks, Jewdy

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> yes

[21:42] <Delta-VHL> Can I plug mine too? lol

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> go for it

[21:42] <Delta-VHL> Or do I have to pay Bez too

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> is it ready?

[21:43] <Delta-VHL> Well, it's constantly in progress, but, ready for viewing, Bob

[21:43] <Beverly-VHL> Is it you rown site,Jewdy?

[21:43] <eden-VHL> Bez your cleaning up here:-)

[21:43] <Delta-VHL> http://members.tripod.com/eaglelifemin

[21:43] <Delta-VHL> wow, it even made a link!

[21:43] <VCI-Bob> New news from the Jerusalem Post:

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[21:43] <eden-VHL> soar delta

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> Listening to Bob

[21:44] <VCI-Bob> METULLA (November 17) - There is growing concern the northern border will soon heat up, following a Hizbullah bomb attack on an IDF patrol yesterday and widespread demonstrations by Palestinians in Lebanon demanding free access to the frontier

[21:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Got your music playing now, Delta.

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> (yes, Bez)

[21:44] <VCI-Bob> A chain of bombs, some of which had been planted within five meters of the border on the Lebanese side, exploded as the soldiers passed in armored Hummer vehicles in the disputed Shaba farms region in the foothills of Mount Dov. One soldier was thought to be suffering from concussion and was taken to Safed's Rebecca Sieff Hospital for examination, but was later released.

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> OUCH!

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[21:45] <Delta-VHL> That is not too good

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> Military Intelligence warned several months ago of a flare-up along the northern border in the event of prolonged hostilities in the territories, with the prospect of Palestinian groups based in Lebanon joining the fray aided by Hizbullah.

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> The latter has already announced its intent to continue attacking Israel, using the Shaba farms dispute as one pretext and Israel's continued detention of Lebanese prisoners - including Hizbullah Sheikh Abdel Karim Obeid and Mustafa Dirani of Amal - as another.

[21:45] <eden-VHL> missed them, the Lord protects His Chosen

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> In this aspect, Hizbullah appears to have the support of Syrian President Bashar Assad, though it is not certain the son of the late dictator Hafez Assad has the political acumen to know when to call a halt. According to some observers, there is a danger that an escalation in fighting along the border could embroil Syria in a military confrontation with Israel because of its interests in Lebanon - whether the young Assad wants it or not.

[21:46] <Delta-VHL> Oh dear. We need to be praying for Israel

[21:46] <eden-VHL> well Assad shouldn't play with the big boys then

[21:46] <VCI-Bob> That's an important point - Bashar Assad is a neophyte, and unlike his father, who knew just how far to push it without breaking, Bashar does not have that good of a grasp on the dynamics

[21:46] <Delta-VHL> Yeah, but a child with a loaded gun is still dangerous, isn't he?

[21:46] <VCI-Bob> yes

[21:47] <eden-VHL> yup!!!

[21:47] <DonB-VHL> 14brb

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> especially when the gun contains chemical weapons

[21:47] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Probably more dangerous, since they don't know the danger.

[21:47] <Delta-VHL> My thoughts too, Bez

[21:47] <Delta-VHL> You guys still want to come in my luggage? :-)

[21:47] <eden-VHL> yes true

[21:48] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I'm there Delta....

[21:48] <Delta-VHL> Bob, did you mention the contract on Sharon?

[21:48] <VCI-Bob> I'd go at the proverbial drop of a hat - anyone have a hat? :)

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[21:48] <VCI-Bob> No, Delta, I didn't

[21:48] <eden-VHL> can you come to Australia first? I'll give you a kangaroo

[21:48] <VCI-Bob> :) Eden

[21:48] <Delta-VHL> The PA is offering a reward for the assassination of Ariel Sharon

[21:48] <Beverly-VHL> Eden, do you live in Australia?Where?

[21:48] <Delta-VHL> Hey, Bob, will a kippah do?

[21:48] <eden-VHL> just have to catch one in my back yard

[21:48] <eden-VHL> Melbourne

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[21:49] <VCI-Bob> You guys should read this whole article later: http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/11/17/News/News.15725.html

[21:49] <incense11> Shalom....and and all

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> the on I just quoted from

[21:49] <Delta-VHL> yeah, Bob....good idea.

[21:49] <Beverly-VHL> I have a zion-pal, she lives in Western australia, near Pearth

[21:49] <Delta-VHL> Shalom incense :-)

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> Shalom Incense - so good to have you back! It's been awhile!

[21:49] <Jewdy-VHL> lo incense

[21:50] <incense11> yes, work or dance practice... missed you all

[21:50] <Beverly-VHL> Hi Incence

[21:50] <eden-VHL> other side of the country bev

[21:50] <eden-VHL> from me I mean

[21:50] <Delta-VHL> Ummm, not to be pushy, but did you guys see that about Sharon?

[21:50] <Delta-VHL> Ok, yeah, it is pushy. sorry :-)

[21:50] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I didn't Delta.

[21:50] <incense11> what about Delta

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> Hey friends, I have a belated apology to make - the last time incense was here, quite a few weeks ago, I was too harsh with her about something we disagreed on, and I need to apologize

[21:50] <eden-VHL> who said it?

[21:51] <Jewdy-VHL> apology accepted

[21:51] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:51] <Delta-VHL> It was in the Arutz-Sheva news, eden

[21:51] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Incense

[21:51] <incense11> Bob....hey, I never took anything wrong, but thank you

[21:51] <eden-VHL> good for you bob

[21:51] <Delta-VHL> The PA has offered a reward for the assasination of Sharon

[21:51] <Beverly-VHL> I'm glad she's here

[21:51] <Beverly-VHL> oops

[21:51] <eden-VHL> ok thanks delta

[21:51] <VCI-Bob> :) good

[21:52] <Delta-VHL> ^5 Incense and Bob

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:52] <incense11> you know... Gore is acting just like Arafat

[21:52] <Jewdy-VHL> 12How incense?

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> Yes, incense? in what way?

[21:52] <Delta-VHL> (lol ducking!)

[21:52] <incense11> say it forever and mabe ppl. will believe it

[21:52] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Where was that from Delta

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> yeah :)

[21:52] <Delta-VHL> Arutz-Sheva news Donna

[21:52] <Delta-VHL> <---listening to Incense

[21:53] <incense11> what you all think

[21:53] <VCI-Bob> I think you have a point

[21:53] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Twins

[21:53] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Someone somewhere will believe it

[21:53] <eden-VHL> you mean he is a lying, expedient, person incense????

[21:54] <incense11> did you hear that 125 yrs. ago the same thing happened in Florida with votes for Pres. (Hayes)

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> We are in a day when propaganda is utilized more than truth

[21:54] <Bezalel-VHL> 2What, a Democrat lie, Eden?

[21:54] <Delta-VHL> Uh, eden, stop beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY think!

[21:54] <Delta-VHL> LOL

[21:54] <Kathy-VHL> well they have both spent a lot of time with Clinton lol

[21:54] <Hope-Donna-VHL> who is making that noise?

[21:54] <Delta-VHL> UGH, Kathy, good one!

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter. (Isaiah 59:14 NIV)

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The LORD looked and was displeased that there was no justice. (Isaiah 59:15 NIV)

[21:54] <Bezalel-VHL> 2LOL Kathy

[21:54] <Jewdy-VHL> 12What noise Hope?

[21:55] <eden-VHL> sorry its my fancy edukatshun showing:-)

[21:55] <Kathy-VHL> have to go all blessings to you all

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> I think Isaiah was on that trampoline!

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> LOL eden

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Kathy!

[21:55] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bye Kathy

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[21:55] <Delta-VHL> Good seeing you! :-)

[21:55] <incense11> I think God waiting on his ppl. to pray in righteousness

[21:55] <Beverly-VHL> Bye, Kathy

[21:55] <Hope-Donna-VHL> It comes through my speakers ummm

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> Uh oh

[21:55] <Jewdy-VHL> 12What does it sound like?

[21:55] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Shalom Kathy

[21:56] <Beverly-VHL> I cant get the italics off

[21:56] <Beverly-VHL> there, finally

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> We discussed that a bit earlier Incense - at the risk of disagreeing with you again... :) I don't think we can "pray in righteousness"

[21:56] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hope-Donna, it's a subliminal message from the Republicans :-)

[21:56] <Delta-VHL> You did Beverly! :-)

[21:56] <Hope-Donna-VHL> like a little cough

[21:56] <Hope-Donna-VHL> lol

[21:56] <Jewdy-VHL> 12:-)

[21:56] <Delta-VHL> Ohhh, Donna, that is a private message!

[21:56] <Delta-VHL> Here, I'll do it.

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[21:56] <incense11> well, the best man, one that has heart to hear from God and stand more with Israel.... what ya think

[21:57] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Now my secret is out I'm computer iliterate

[21:57] <eden-VHL> oh oh be careful now o worthy leader

[21:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I'll settle for the Lord's will, Incense.

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> Hopefully, there is a man like that in politics :)

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, truth

[21:57] <Delta-VHL> I personally believe the person God wants in office, will be there. I pray its the best of the two

[21:57] <Jewdy-VHL> 12That's the way I voted incense. I prayed about it and voted.

[21:57] <Beverly-VHL> I'm there with you,Hope

[21:57] <incense11> ;-)) Amen

[21:57] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Truth! :-)

[21:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Sharon, Bob?

[21:58] <Delta-VHL> Bibi and Sharon...I like that!

[21:58] <Beverly-VHL> Greetings, Truth

[21:58] <truth-VHL> HI everyone

[21:58] <Delta-VHL> Donna? You ok?

[21:58] <DonB-VHL> Hi Truth

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> Well, Bez, Sharon does not know the Lord, and is not even religious

[21:58] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I was surprised about Jimmy Carter's reverse stand

[21:58] <truth-VHL> my first time here

[21:58] <eden-VHL> hi truth not justice I hope?

[21:58] <incense11> Shalom new ppl. and ones haven't seen in awhile

[21:58] <Beverly-VHL> Neat!

[21:58] <truth-VHL> 6nope

[21:58] <Bezalel-VHL> 2There's been a few of those in the past, Bob.

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> First time, huh? Where are you from truth?

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Bob, did I tell you Sharon is supposed to meet with us while in Israel?

[21:59] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Thanks its nice to know I'm not the only one

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> That should be interesting, Delta

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> :-) welcome Donna and all!

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Yes, it will be, Bob

[21:59] <incense11> when you going to Israel Delta?

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> They want us to pray with them

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> I am going the first part of December

[21:59] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Are you going with BFP, Delta?

[21:59] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hello Truth

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Its awesome

[21:59] <incense11> great...be blessed

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Yes, Bez, I am

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> Sharon is a man who understands the importance of the land

[22:00] <Delta-VHL> yep

[22:00] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Make sure you're not on the temple mount when you do pray, Delta.

[22:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Somebody else was saying they were going, can't remember who.

[22:00] <Delta-VHL> I cannot go on that thing, Jewdy

[22:00] <incense11> well, he must have some God in him and not know it :-))

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> I think the Temple Mount is still closed to Jews and tourists

[22:00] <Jewdy-VHL> 12are you Jewish?

[22:00] <Delta-VHL> Me? yep, or of Hebrew heritage

[22:00] <Delta-VHL> I don't know which tribe

[22:00] <truth-VHL> 6i am from FAR away the land south of Israel

[22:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Bob, did you tell us your choice for politician?

[22:00] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Great

[22:01] <incense11> where truth?

[22:01] <Delta-VHL> Bob voted for me

[22:01] <eden-VHL> ah huh

[22:01] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:01] <Delta-VHL> LOL

[22:01] <DonB-VHL> 14LOL

[22:01] <Jewdy-VHL> 12He won't tell it

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez - the "Prince of princes" :)

[22:01] <incense11> Delta win's

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> Dan 8:25

[22:01] <DonB-VHL> 14you've got my vote Delta

[22:01] <Delta-VHL> Hallelujah BOB!

[22:01] <Delta-VHL> Jesus makes the BEST!

[22:01] <eden-VHL> woohoo!!!!

[22:01] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Sorry Delta, I think Hillary will be the 1st woman prez

[22:02] <VCI-Bob> South of israel?

[22:02] <incense11> let's pray not Jewdy

[22:02] <Delta-VHL> Oey vey Jewdy!

[22:02] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I voted for Bush which I thought had the best morels

[22:02] <Delta-VHL> (spitting on hands!)

[22:02] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I'd like to hope not, but I wouldn't make any bets any different

[22:02] <Beverly-VHL> So do I , about Hilary

[22:02] <Delta-VHL> SHE is dangerous

[22:02] <eden-VHL> LOL delta

[22:02] <incense11> lets cast your words down... don't speak them to often ;-)

[22:03] <eden-VHL> oh yeah she is IS

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> Truth is being evasive, methinks :)

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[22:03] <Delta-VHL> Where isS

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> oops

[22:03] <connied52-VHL> hoping some of you would still be on so what's the final word on vhl

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Connie!

[22:03] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yep, no matter what she or he does, they come out squeaky clean

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> Where is truth?

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> HI CONNIE!

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> Shalom! :-)

[22:03] <eden-VHL> me too bob

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> No final word yet Connie

[22:03] <DonB-VHL> 14Hi connie

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[22:03] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hey connied!

[22:03] <connied52-VHL> hi, Bob how are you Hi Delta

[22:03] <incense11> word about what/??

[22:03] <connied52-VHL> hi Don jewdy

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> Connie's from my home town

[22:03] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Hi Connie

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> VHL is in jeopardy

[22:04] <truth-VHL> 6i am here just waiting for the system sorry it is so slow

[22:04] <eden-VHL> hey connie how r u?

[22:04] <connied52-VHL> hey eden good you?

[22:04] <Delta-VHL> Its ok Truth

[22:04] <incense11> how Bob

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> Here is a letter that describes the situation: http://www.trumpetsounds.com/vhlcrisis.html

[22:04] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Where do you live Delta?

[22:04] <eden-VHL> great!!!!!!!!!

[22:04] <connied52-VHL> Ole St. Lou, right Delta

[22:04] <Delta-VHL> yes, Connie

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> The parent company has been losing money and is going belly-up

[22:04] <Delta-VHL> St Louis Donna

[22:04] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Home of the Midnight polling booth!

[22:05] <connied52-VHL> lol

[22:05] <Delta-VHL> groaners Bez

[22:05] <Jewdy-VHL> 12LOL

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> Do they deliver, also? :)

[22:05] <incense11> losing their site, or this room? Tell me that much

[22:05] <Delta-VHL> Ok, who has a million dollars to share?

[22:05] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Probably if you voted for Carnahan.

[22:05] <Delta-VHL> OUCH

[22:05] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Farm town then you must of seen some Amish people

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> VHL is owned by a company Virtual Communities, which is ceasing operations

[22:05] <incense11> Remember me also Delta is anyone applies

[22:05] <eden-VHL> got a million smiles does that help

[22:05] <DonB-VHL> 14I've got to run for a while, my daughter has to use the computer for homework, will try to get back, love you all...God Bless

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> and the outcome is uncertain for VHL

[22:06] <Delta-VHL> Donna, St Louis is far from being a farm town :-)

[22:06] <incense11> night Don...

[22:06] <connied52-VHL> sorry hope missed your hello how are you

[22:06] <truth-VHL> 6BYE DON B

[22:06] <VCI-Bob> there are details on that page I displayed

[22:06] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Don!

[22:06] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Hey did anybody hear about that elected official who had a voter mechanism in in car?

[22:06] <eden-VHL> bye don

[22:06] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Bye

[22:06] <DonB-VHL> 14Shalom

[22:06] <incense11> is there another option is one day its gone, we know where to go to

[22:06] <connied52-VHL> night Don see you later if you can come back

[22:06] <VCI-Bob> Any of you rich and wish to purchase VHL? :)

[22:06] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Slow but just fine thank-you how about you?

[22:07] <Delta-VHL> I was hoping for Publishers Clearing House, but they aren't offering money anymore

[22:07] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I wish Bob

[22:07] <Delta-VHL> sigh.

[22:07] <connied52-VHL> jewdy, didn't see that what happened

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> Incense, on the page I cited, I will provide updates, and also instructions if VHL shuts down suddenly

[22:07] <eden-VHL> I wish!!!

[22:07] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Shalom Don

[22:07] <Delta-VHL> Ok, Bob, we will mob your website!

[22:07] <Jewdy-VHL> 12In Palm Beach the police found a ballot-box mechanism in the car of a well-known Democrat.

[22:08] <VCI-Bob> Night, Don :)

[22:08] <eden-VHL> better get more bandwith bob

[22:08] <incense11> what happend then Jewdy

[22:08] <Delta-VHL> I do not know why they don't just go ahead and start a hand count of the whole US and get it over with

[22:08] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-), Eden....

[22:08] <Delta-VHL> Sorry....bad attitude.

[22:08] <connied52-VHL> how interesting and.... so now what will happen ? are will they do anything probably just look the other way

[22:08] <VCI-Bob> The situation is critical for Stan, as it is unlikely that he will receive any more paychecks

[22:08] <Jewdy-VHL> 12He denied it at first, then he finally turned it over .

[22:09] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I knew this was going to lead to violence

[22:09] <connied52-VHL> what will he do Bob

[22:09] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Does Stan have any fallback, Bob?

[22:09] <Delta-VHL> :-( for Stan

[22:09] <VCI-Bob> We are praying Connie, that the Lord will bring about a good resolution for both Stan and VHL

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[22:09] <VCI-Bob> some of the possibilities are outlined on that "updates" page

[22:09] <incense11> yes, Amen to that

[22:09] <Delta-VHL> If I had the money, I'd buy VHL and pay Stan to run it

[22:09] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Would Stan be able to make it with just VHL if he were able to purchase it?

[22:10] <Delta-VHL> (I wish for a lot)

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> Oooo - then you would be his boss :)

[22:10] <Delta-VHL> Naw, Bob, just his sister

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez

[22:10] <connied52-VHL> Yes, me too Bob he has asked for prayer it is a serious situtation

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> I think so

[22:10] <eden-VHL> Bez ah huh so more than tool kit to you

[22:11] <Hope-Donna-VHL> We will all pray and spread the word

[22:11] <Delta-VHL> Can Stan stay in Israel?

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> I didn't have any sisters, but I heard they can be bossy LOL

[22:11] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-)

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> If he still has employment there, yes, Delta

[22:11] <Delta-VHL> Hey, you have a lot of sisters in this room Bob!

[22:11] <connied52-VHL> Yes, i wish we could all come up with enough to help Stan buy it and I wish I could really be a help. my mom helps me out at the present sending money for grocries etc so I don't have much in funds

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> true :)

[22:11] <eden-VHL> us? you dont mean us surely?

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> LOL

[22:11] <Hope-Donna-VHL> We are Bob

[22:11] <connied52-VHL> bossy, yes they can

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> And we aren't TOOOOOooooo bossy, are we?

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> :->

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:12] <incense11> I didn't have brothers, but heard they are mean

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> Connie, we feel the same

[22:12] <eden-VHL> never, not us

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> OUCH, incense!

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> Connie, I'm confident that the Lord will come through in this

[22:12] <incense11> but wanted them anyway

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> LOL

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> according to His wisdom and good intentions

[22:12] <eden-VHL> incense, touche

[22:13] <Delta-VHL> I know i am joking a lot, but in all seriousness, it is my way of not being too sad

[22:13] <connied52-VHL> that is good to hear Bob, i have been praying that God would even just give the site to Stan, I know he is in prayer

[22:13] <Hope-Donna-VHL> :-p

[22:13] <incense11> we adopted neighborhood guys for brothers ;-)

[22:13] <Delta-VHL> LOL DONNA! :-)

[22:13] <Delta-VHL> ;-)

[22:13] <incense11> no, having fun,, that's all

[22:13] <connied52-VHL> Yes, BobGod sees and knows what is needed according to His wisdom

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Connie - that would be terrific - and is anything too hard for the Lord? NOOOOOOOOO

[22:14] <connied52-VHL> that's Bob, God not BobGod lol

[22:14] <incense11> Amen

[22:14] <eden-VHL> AMEN

[22:14] <Delta-VHL> Nothing too hard for God

[22:14] <connied52-VHL> He is able

[22:14] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Delta you must be full of the spirit tonight

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[22:14] <Delta-VHL> Remember the last newspaper headline that will be printed?

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> did you know, that He never has to exert Himself? it's all easy for Him :)

[22:14] <eden-VHL> Holy I hope?

[22:14] <incense11> wb...Beverly

[22:15] <Delta-VHL> ROFL Donna and eden!

[22:15] <connied52-VHL> lol eden I'm sure of it

[22:15] <Hope-Donna-VHL> God knew we needed to laugh tonight

[22:15] <Delta-VHL> God's Holy Spirit and raring to get to Israel!

[22:16] <Hope-Donna-VHL> How does everyone type so fast?

[22:16] <Beverly-VHL> I got kicked off, AND diconnected!

[22:16] <eden-VHL> Bob, God can turn energy into matter, the Word = Logos into flesh = Jesus

[22:16] <Delta-VHL> Donna, it's called "self-defense"

[22:16] <incense11> Delta.. my dance teacher was there for 3 months and just returned (Israel)

[22:16] <connied52-VHL> Delta, how is the trip to Israel looking? I have been praying

[22:16] <Delta-VHL> I am going, Connie!

[22:16] <Delta-VHL> I got the passport today!

[22:16] <VCI-Bob> Ouch Beverly!

[22:16] <connied52-VHL> Oh, Delta, how wonderful God is so Good

[22:16] <Delta-VHL> Beverly ok?

[22:16] <Hope-Donna-VHL> It must have been Delta she gave you the boot;-)

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> yes, Connie. I've people who are sending money..

[22:17] <Beverly-VHL> Yea, how rude!

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> ROFL...Donna!

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> Beverly, I'd never do that to you

[22:17] <incense11> 2 times she was asked by Jew man is they knew Jesus

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:17] <connied52-VHL> Praise God Delta, He is faithful

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> Well, God said to go, and I am going

[22:17] <incense11> said he saw it on their face

[22:17] <Beverly-VHL> At least I know it wasn't you, Delta

[22:17] <connied52-VHL> good

[22:17] <connied52-VHL> it happens a lot here Bev

[22:18] <connied52-VHL> some nights worse than others'

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[22:18] <incense11> one man said, he has read New Testament 3 times, but not to tell

[22:18] <Delta-VHL> It was ol'Scumbucket

[22:18] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Why do all the Gore spokesmen look like cartoon characters?

[22:18] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Delta make sure your camera is not on panoramic. It cost me a small fortune to get my pictures devolped.

[22:18] <Beverly-VHL> so I shouldn't take it personal?

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> Hello, Shelly!

[22:18] <incense11> he would get kicked out of synogoge

[22:18] <shelly-VHL> hi all!

[22:18] <Delta-VHL> Nope, Jewdy, just a regular camera

[22:18] <eden-VHL> you mean old screwtape

[22:18] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Shelly!

[22:18] <Delta-VHL> yeah, him too, eden

[22:19] <Delta-VHL> But....YESHUA KICKS REAR! Details at ten...

[22:19] <VCI-Bob> yeah, Bez, I agree

[22:19] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:19] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:19] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Well the media has had plenty to talk about this week, haven't they?

[22:19] <Delta-VHL> :-p

[22:19] <eden-VHL> yup, LOl delta

[22:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I'm watching Fox News, and the thought just hit me.

[22:19] <Beverly-VHL> He shall crush his head

[22:19] <Delta-VHL> Jewdy, everything but the truth about Israel

[22:19] <connied52-VHL> jewdy , how much more does it cost for panoramic? i still have my pictures from this summer when i visited friends and went to the Grand Canyon and they are panoramic

[22:20] <Beverly-VHL> Yes, Bez?

[22:20] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I had about 11 rolls and it cost me close to 200.

[22:20] <Delta-VHL> Whew, I am tired. I gonna watch you guys talk for a couple of minutes

[22:20] <connied52-VHL> i am wondering how much it will cost to develop it

[22:20] <Bezalel-VHL> 2That Gore's henchmen look like cartoon characters, Bev.

[22:20] <VCI-Bob> Truly you are a God who hides himself, O God and Savior of Israel. (Isaiah 45:15 NIV) Here's a question to ponder - why does God hide himself?

[22:20] <connied52-VHL> oh, no i have many rolls

[22:20] <eden-VHL> Bez talk what hit you?

[22:21] <incense11> so we will search

[22:21] <Jewdy-VHL> 12I had to go ahead and get them because I wasn't going to let them go back. Took everything I had left over.

[22:21] <connied52-VHL> i guesss i'll watch for sales if they do them that way and do one a month lol

[22:21] <shelly-VHL> how far are his ways past understanding

[22:21] <Beverly-VHL> oh, Yes, they do.

[22:21] <VCI-Bob> Good answer, incense

[22:21] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Gore's henchmen lol

[22:21] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Yeah that would be best. I didn't know before I devolped.

[22:22] <eden-VHL> He hides because He is unsearchable

[22:22] <Delta-VHL> I like Incense's answer

[22:22] <connied52-VHL> so what's going to happen about the guy who had the voting machine or whatever it was in his car

[22:22] <Delta-VHL> Is that like "seek me and ye shall find me"?

[22:22] <incense11> it's God own answer,, search and you will fine

[22:22] <Delta-VHL> or "seek ye first the kingdom of God?" :-)

[22:23] <Jewdy-VHL> 12They said they were not going to press any charges against him.

[22:23] <connied52-VHL> why????

[22:23] <incense11> he's Dem.

[22:23] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Just a minute, connied. I got a phone call

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> Well, all, I need to depart....

[22:23] <connied52-VHL> ok

[22:23] <Beverly-VHL> Was he in a republican area?

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> Yes, He hides, so that we will search. He is scanning the earth to see who is really interested in the truth, and who will really follow Him.

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> LONG day

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> Shalom! :-)

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> But remember this:

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[22:24] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Delta....talk to you later.

[22:24] <connied52-VHL> Delta, have fun preparing for your trip to Israel i can't say i'm not envious lol

[22:24] <shelly-VHL> goodnite delta

[22:24] <Beverly-VHL> Goodnite Delta

[22:24] <eden-VHL> yes bob

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known. (John 1:18 NIV)

[22:24] <incense11> what Bob

[22:24] <Hope-Donna-VHL> shalom Delta and God Bless

[22:25] <eden-VHL> thru Jesus

[22:25] <shelly-VHL> and we will be like him one day:-O

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> and Jesus said: "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. (John 17:6 NIV)

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Shelly, Amen - we will share Jesus glory, which we do not deserve

[22:26] <incense11> I don't have to see your face Bob to know your heart...

[22:26] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Make me obediant Father

[22:26] <connied52-VHL> thank you Lord for showing Yourself to me

[22:26] <shelly-VHL> oh how sweet he is

[22:26] <connied52-VHL> You are so gracious

[22:26] <incense11> and Praise God, he left us many love letters to know him by

[22:26] <connied52-VHL> yes he did

[22:26] <eden-VHL> PTL

[22:27] <connied52-VHL> There is none like HIm

[22:27] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Yes Praise You Lord

[22:27] <incense11> God asked a question recently to ask a teacher I knew

[22:27] <connied52-VHL> His ways above our ways, His thought above our thoughts

[22:27] <Beverly-VHL> None compare or even come close

[22:28] <incense11> would you like to have a picture or letters of the one you love, if they were no longer there

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true--even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. (1 John 5:20 NIV)

[22:28] <incense11> Picture, is like miracles... it shows what God Does.

[22:28] <Jewdy-VHL> 12You can read about the missing ballot box on abcnews.com

[22:28] <connied52-VHL> Yes the one true God

[22:29] <shelly-VHL> amen

[22:29] <eden-VHL> the Living God, Amen

[22:29] <connied52-VHL> ok jewdy thanks

[22:29] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Thank-You Jesus

[22:29] <incense11> Letters, is like Him,, it shows Who God is, His character

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> Allah, and any other gods are only frauds and pretenders, who will be vanquished by the true God on His Day

[22:30] <eden-VHL> letters=the Word, incense?

[22:30] <connied52-VHL> Yes, amen

[22:30] <shelly-VHL> cant wait for that day

[22:30] <incense11> Yes

[22:30] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Amen

[22:30] <eden-VHL> yes thats the TRUTH bob

[22:30] <connied52-VHL> 6me neither, and for those who try to thwart the will of God to be done with and God prevail

[22:31] <Jewdy-VHL> 12Well gang I think I am about to call it a night. Getting sleepy here. Will try to catch you guys Monday night on the chat. I guess we'll know something by then, one way or another. Bye

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> Night Jewdy - the Lord bless you

[22:31] <connied52-VHL> 6jewdy take care have a good night

[22:31] <incense11> hope so Jewdy...

[22:31] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Jewdy

[22:31] <eden-VHL> Shalom jewdy

[22:31] <shelly-VHL> nite jewdy

[22:31] <incense11> night and God Bless

[22:31] <Beverly-VHL> Good nite e Jewdy

[22:31] <truth-VHL> 6NITE Jewdy

[22:31] <Hope-Donna-VHL> Goodnight Jewdy

[22:31] <incense11> think I will go also......

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[22:31] <incense11> good seeing you all again

[22:32] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Incense

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Incense - good to see you!

[22:32] <connied52-VHL> 6incense have a good evening

[22:32] <eden-VHL> God Bless you incense

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> Good night

[22:32] <truth-VHL> 6bye insence

[22:32] <Beverly-VHL> Bye Incence

[22:32] <shelly-VHL> nite incence

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Tim

[22:32] <incense11> hope to see you here again and Stan...

[22:32] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, tim

[22:32] <Beverly-VHL> I Tim

[22:32] <incense11> Shalom......

[22:32] <Beverly-VHL> Hi

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[22:32] <truth-VHL> 6Hi Tim

[22:32] <shelly-VHL> me too... nite nite everyone

[22:32] <tim-VHL> hi

[22:32] <eden-VHL> hi tim is that election?

[22:32] <connied52-VHL> 6night shelly sleep well

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Night Shelly - The Lord's peace to you :)

[22:33] <tim-VHL> no, not election

[22:33] <Beverly-VHL> Bye Shelly

[22:33] <eden-VHL> sorry

[22:33] <Hope-Donna-VHL> I also must go I have a Grandbaby I must kiss goodnight Shalom and Blessings to All Until we meet again

[22:33] <shelly-VHL> thanks

[22:33] <tim-VHL> no probs

[22:33] <connied52-VHL> 6night hope take care

[22:33] <eden-VHL> GBY hope d

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Good night Donna, Shalom!

[22:33] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Hope-Donna

[22:33] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Shelly

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[22:34] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, truth

[22:34] <VCI-Bob> Anyone wish to share any favorite Scriptures, or insights?

[22:34] <Bezalel-VHL> 2So, Eden, do they think the US is goofy, down under?

[22:34] <truth-VHL> 6Hi Connie

[22:34] <eden-VHL> Bob can I send you by email my findings on Zerrubabel?

[22:34] <VCI-Bob> Yes, eden - that would be terrific!!

[22:35] <connied52-VHL> 6bob

[22:35] <VCI-Bob> Bob_Westbrook@zionmail.com

[22:35] <eden-VHL> Unfortunately Bez there is derision about your election stuff

[22:35] <connied52-VHL> 6would you mind sharing a little of what we might expect here for vhl in the next few days

[22:35] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I did read the scriptures, Bob....but Eden, please send to me also vjpete@y-comm.com

[22:36] <connied52-VHL> 6or should i just wait and check out your site later?

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> Connie, I have no idea what do expect - Stan is in discussions about possibly acquiring VHL, but he does not have the financial means, so it is iffy

[22:36] <eden-VHL> ok Bez will bore you too

[22:36] <Beverly-VHL> Stan does such a good job

[22:36] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Thanks, Eden.

[22:36] <connied52-VHL> 6can you disclose how much he needs?

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6what they want i mean

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> I don't know, Connie - I would guess they had been asking a substantial sum before, but I don't know how much - many thousands I would guess

[22:37] <Beverly-VHL> Could he get monthly 'partners' like other ministries?

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6a lot

[22:38] <VCI-Bob> Perhaps, Beverly, but if he acquires it, he should be able to sustain it through advertising, as it has a large user base

[22:39] <connied52-VHL> 6did he ever talk to that guy Bruce who was interested in helping? i wondered how that turned out

[22:39] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Can we still contribute through the account Barbara had set up?

[22:39] <connied52-VHL> 6he seemed to have the money

[22:39] <Beverly-VHL> I think it should be on the home page

[22:39] <connied52-VHL> 6and be interested in helping buy it

[22:39] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez, you can

[22:39] <eden-VHL> you mean clint connie?

[22:39] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Okay

[22:40] <VCI-Bob> Beverly, you are right - he had been holding off on that because of the sensitivity of it, but I would agree with you

[22:40] <connied52-VHL> 6not sure there was some guy named bruce on the forums who was interesed is that clint

[22:40] <eden-VHL> you remember pastor clint he seemed keen

[22:40] <VCI-Bob> Connie, as of today, no one had come through with the means to purchase it

[22:40] <VCI-Bob> I talked to Stan today

[22:41] <connied52-VHL> 6i see

[22:41] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, eden i think he was also interested

[22:41] <connied52-VHL> 6well God knows the situation

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[22:41] <VCI-Bob> Hey! There he is!

[22:41] <eden-VHL> hey boss

[22:41] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Stan, your ears burning?

[22:42] <VCI-Bob> Live and in person! (sorta)

[22:42] <connied52-VHL> 6putting it on the home page would be a very good idea at this time

[22:42] <VCI-Bob> We were just tawkin about ya :)

[22:42] <connied52-VHL> 6Hello, Stan!!!

[22:42] <VCI-Stan> mornin' all :)

[22:42] <connied52-VHL> 6how are you

[22:42] <Beverly-VHL> HI Stan!

[22:42] <VCI-Stan> Shalom, that is

[22:42] <eden-VHL> G'day to you

[22:42] <connied52-VHL> 6what's the latest word Stan

[22:42] <truth-VHL> 6good morning Stan

[22:42] <VCI-Bob> Stan, you have a few votes in favor of putting info about the plight of VHL on the front page :)

[22:42] <VCI-Stan> yes, lay in bed and could not sleep so thought, what is bob and that crowd up to

[22:42] <VCI-Bob> We're up to: good! :)

[22:43] <eden-VHL> teehee

[22:43] <connied52-VHL> 6did you ever hear from bruce or clint who were both interested in vhl at some point

[22:43] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Good good, even

[22:43] <VCI-Bob> Good good

[22:43] <VCI-Stan> let me get these fingers working.....

[22:43] <connied52-VHL> 6stan, sorry that was posted to you about bruce or clint

[22:43] <VCI-Bob> And the brain too :)

[22:43] <VCI-Stan> no real developments yet

[22:43] <connied52-VHL> 6lol

[22:43] <eden-VHL> we are just trying to second guess God nothing bad really

[22:43] <VCI-Stan> bob l'ii de-crown you

[22:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2And the Spirit!

[22:44] <VCI-Bob> will it hurt?

[22:44] <connied52-VHL> 6lol stan

[22:44] <Beverly-VHL> only your pride?

[22:44] <VCI-Stan> i did get a few interesting calls yesterday

[22:44] <VCI-Bob> LOL

[22:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Good interesting?

[22:44] <connied52-VHL> 6really , stan can you tell?

[22:45] <eden-VHL> and???????

[22:45] <VCI-Bob> I was going to say, just as Stan walked in - please distribute that letter far and wide: http://www.trumpetsounds.com/vhlcrisis.html

[22:45] <VCI-Stan> no, cannot disclose anything sorry

[22:45] <eden-VHL> for the first time of course bob

[22:46] <VCI-Stan> except that the Lord is working

[22:46] <Beverly-VHL> Does it include the address mentioned?

[22:46] <VCI-Stan> and Franny and I have this amazing sense of peace about it all

[22:46] <connied52-VHL> 6that's ok we'll wait

[22:46] <Bezalel-VHL> 2PTL, Stan!

[22:46] <VCI-Stan> large sums of money are, thankfully, no problem to Him

[22:46] <eden-VHL> oh good the prayers are working

[22:46] <VCI-Bob> The address can be found on the forum, but I will include it there as well, Beverly

[22:46] <connied52-VHL> 6that's good Stan i have been praying for calm for you all

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[22:46] <Beverly-VHL> Thanks , Bob

[22:46] <VCI-Bob> Yes, it's going to work out good good good :) somehow

[22:47] <VCI-Bob> God will do it

[22:47] <VCI-Stan> i'll be linking to your letter on VHL from the HP today Bob

[22:47] <truth-VHL> 6Hi Eagle

[22:47] <Eagle-VHL> hi

[22:47] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, eagle

[22:47] <Beverly-VHL> Yes, teh Lord's hand and blessing are on this site

[22:47] <Eagle-VHL> hi

[22:48] <truth-VHL> 6eagle where you from??

[22:48] <VCI-Stan> I'll never tire of saying it - you are all an amzing bunch of people

[22:48] <Beverly-VHL> Greetings Eagle

[22:48] <Eagle-VHL> We love ya Stan

[22:48] <eden-VHL> where you from truth?

[22:48] <VCI-Stan> it's amazing how the Lord works through the internet

[22:49] <VCI-Bob> yes, indeed

[22:49] <connied52-VHL> 6Well, Stan your'e pretty amazing yourself, you give a lot of yourself to this site

[22:49] <VCI-Stan> last week i met a lady here in Jerusalem

[22:49] <VCI-Stan> i have known her son for awhile, young man called Ryan who is putting together the site zionist.com

[22:49] <Beverly-VHL> That;s for sure, I found the neatest friend/ e-pal through VHL

[22:49] <VCI-Stan> Eagle, Connie :)

[22:49] <Beverly-VHL> We've been writing since last March

[22:50] <VCI-Bob> Wonderful, Beverly!

[22:50] <VCI-Bob> from where?

[22:50] <VCI-Stan> well, we chatted about the site and our needs

[22:50] <Eagle-VHL> zionist.com? :->

[22:50] <Beverly-VHL> Pearth area, Australia. Her husband is a pastor

[22:50] <VCI-Stan> chalk another pal up for VHL Beverley

[22:50] <VCI-Stan> yes, zionist.com

[22:50] <VCI-Bob> wow - very cool

[22:51] <Eagle-VHL> um, Bob?

[22:51] <Eagle-VHL> LOL

[22:51] <eden-VHL> thats us kangaroos for you bev:->

[22:51] <VCI-Stan> well, yesterday this lady's husband (whom I have not met or spoken to before) receives a copy of Bob's letter

[22:51] <Beverly-VHL> lol

[22:51] <VCI-Stan> small world or what? :)

[22:52] <Eagle-VHL> Go GOD!

[22:52] <VCI-Stan> the internet shrunk it all up

[22:52] <Beverly-VHL> hand of God

[22:52] <VCI-Bob> Yes, I didn't send it out to that many people via email

[22:52] <eden-VHL> sovereign move of The Lord

[22:53] <Eagle-VHL> Delta sent it out to some

[22:53] <VCI-Stan> oh absolutely - God's hand all over, ... he called me last night, then there were two more calls in short order, and i'll tell you the rest of this story as it pans out....

[22:53] <Beverly-VHL> God is good, all the time

[22:53] <Eagle-VHL> :-)

[22:53] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:53] <VCI-Stan> i think Christians are using the net in some amazing ways

[22:54] <Eagle-VHL> I'm STILL a pan millineist!

[22:54] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Lord we pray you will provide. Allow Stan to glorify You through this web site.

[22:54] <eden-VHL> eh?

[22:54] <truth-VHL> 6Stan where are you from???

[22:54] <connied52-VHL> 6Yes, Stan God is bringing many together through the internet world wide

[22:54] <VCI-Stan> it often happens that on the very day an article is sent out from one, relatively small source, that I get copies of it from two or three people in diferent parts of the world who do not know one another at all

[22:54] <truth-VHL> 6AMEN

[22:54] <connied52-VHL> 6lol eagle

[22:55] <connied52-VHL> 6she means, eden it will alll pan out in the end

[22:55] <Eagle-VHL> Yeshua! Praise GOD!

[22:55] <VCI-Stan> truth - South African by nationality, born in a small lil' kingdom called swaziland

[22:55] <connied52-VHL> 6that is amazing Stan

[22:55] <truth-VHL> 6HALLELUJA

[22:55] <truth-VHL> 6i am from South Africa

[22:55] <VCI-Stan> oh, perhaps i'll retract some of what i said about the net - seems like a few places down under have yet to get plugged in -

[22:56] <Eagle-VHL> God, please let who buys VHL to be a very nice employer!

[22:56] <connied52-VHL> 6Stan, God could be getting ready to do something really big here

[22:56] <VCI-Stan> wherabouts truth - and r u there now?

[22:56] <eden-VHL> yes, only about 1 million on the net here

[22:56] <VCI-Stan> eden - joke - don't clam up on us

[22:56] <truth-VHL> 6yes Johannesburg missionary pastor

[22:57] <connied52-VHL> 6hey truth, i have a friend there in zimbabwe that i met on this site goes by the name of lolo on this site

[22:57] <connied52-VHL> 6really neat lady

[22:57] <truth-VHL> 6my first time here

[22:57] <connied52-VHL> 6in the prayer room a lot

[22:57] <VCI-Stan> so - did you Americans sort out your little problem yet? :)

[22:57] <connied52-VHL> 6WELCOME truth

[22:58] <eden-VHL> my web site partner

[22:58] <truth-VHL> 6Thanks Connie

[22:58] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yes, Stan, we're letting God work His will.

[22:58] <Beverly-VHL> We have it all figured out, Jesus wins

[22:58] <connied52-VHL> 6lol Stan no the fight is still going on in the heavelies

[22:58] <Eagle-VHL> Uh Stan, only GOD can do this one

[22:58] <connied52-VHL> 6heavenlies

[22:58] <VCI-Stan> truth - you're one of the first south africans to come chatting in our scheduled chats

[22:58] <Eagle-VHL> Yes, Beverly, Jesus wins!

[22:58] <connied52-VHL> 6it will be God's hand that will cause it to work or it won't work at all satan is bound and determined to steal this

[22:59] <connied52-VHL> 6But God has a plan

[22:59] <truth-VHL> 6Cool will try to come more regular but the finances does not allow it

[22:59] <Eagle-VHL> :-O

[22:59] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, truth i heard you have to pay quite a bit for the web

[22:59] <connied52-VHL> 6in africa

[22:59] <Eagle-VHL> I hate to leave good company, but I need to say ttfn (tata for now!) Good night!

[22:59] <Beverly-VHL> Truth, do you have access to freee internet?

[22:59] <VCI-Stan> ok all, just heard from the higher ups - we'll be discussing vhl on MOnday - so we have a whole weekend to pray :)

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[23:00] <truth-VHL> 6yes we do

[23:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Eagle.

[23:00] <Beverly-VHL> Bye, Eagle

[23:00] <VCI-Bob> Our little problem, Stan, is not the election, but our pride in our superior political system - the US feels that it is impervious to any instability :)

[23:00] <truth-VHL> 6No bev there is no such thing

[23:00] <connied52-VHL> 6there is supposed to be a world wide net free internet service don't know the name of it at the moment

[23:00] <VCI-Bob> That's good, Stan :)

[23:01] <Beverly-VHL> Juno is free, if I e-mailed you a letter, I think you can link into the free service. I have Juno, its free

[23:01] <Beverly-VHL> Did I say its free,haha

[23:01] <VCI-Stan> Bob - I know you are right, though it is not only an American problem - --

[23:01] <VCI-Bob> True

[23:01] <truth-VHL> 6thanks you see we also have to pay for the telephone link

[23:02] <VCI-Bob> but America excels at pride

[23:02] <connied52-VHL> 6Truth,found it www.netzero.com totally free and considered the best according to a new rating on free internet that i read

[23:03] <VCI-Stan> let me tell you from my perspective just now, with the spiralling Mideast situation, the American elections, and my own personal circumstances just now I feel I am seeing something of this shaking going on

[23:03] <connied52-VHL> 6there are also supposed to be programs for free phone calls anywhere you may want to check it out dont know how well it will work in your area

[23:03] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Stan, I will pour on the prayers for you.....and see you all Monday. Good night.

[23:03] <VCI-Bob> Night, Bez

[23:03] <truth-VHL> 6thanks connie i will certainly look into this

[23:03] <VCI-Bob> Always a pleasure to have you :)

[23:03] <eden-VHL> shalom bez

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> Shalom Bez - and thank you

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> Heb 12:25-29

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> 25See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven,

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> 26whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven."

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> 27Now this, "Yet once more," indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain.

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> 28Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> 29For our God is a consuming fire.

[23:04] <VCI-Stan> (NKJ)

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[23:05] <VCI-Bob> Very pertinent, Stan - we talked a little bit earlier about our observation that the "shaking" process may be commencing

[23:05] <connied52-VHL> 6just caught up with the postings yes, Stan much shaking going on

[23:05] <VCI-Stan> I guess we are all pretty much feeling the shaking that is taking place huh?

[23:05] <eden-VHL> well there it is who can disagree with that

[23:05] <Beverly-VHL> That sounds so fitting

[23:05] <VCI-Stan> feel's like one of them wooden roller coasters

[23:05] <eden-VHL> oh yes

[23:05] <VCI-Bob> uh huh

[23:06] <connied52-VHL> 6it is necessary for us to reach a place where we can be a spotless church for Him

[23:06] <connied52-VHL> 6the shaking i mean

[23:06] <VCI-Stan> my sense is that we've experienced the first, relatively small drop, and the thing is laboring up the other side for a real plunge

[23:06] <VCI-Bob> My soul finds rest in God alone; my salvation comes from him. He alone is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will never be shaken.

[23:06] <truth-VHL> 6well guys I also must go Family prayer time then off to work they go Just for your info it is now 6am here Since we are in the "future" we will be praying for you

[23:06] <connied52-VHL> 6that's heavy stan, but your probably right on target

[23:07] <VCI-Bob> Good night, Truth - hope you can join us again!

[23:07] <Beverly-VHL> Have a good day, truth

[23:07] <connied52-VHL> 6night truth

[23:07] <eden-VHL> bye truth

[23:07] <connied52-VHL> 6or day

[23:07] <connied52-VHL> 6yes please pray for God's man to get in office here

[23:07] <VCI-Bob> Day, night - we global people now :)

[23:07] <connied52-VHL> 6lol

[23:07] <truth-VHL> 6i will try to be here but how regular do you get together??

[23:07] <VCI-Stan> connie - yes, and I was just going to say that as long as we are all praying for Israel and for VHL etc that we should hold one another up in prayer that the Lord will strengthen us so that

[23:07] <eden-VHL> than its only the beginning of the process

[23:08] <VCI-Stan> ...

[23:08] <eden-VHL> oops stan

[23:08] <VCI-Bob> Every Monday and Thursday

[23:08] <connied52-VHL> 6mon and thurs night EST 8pm

[23:08] <VCI-Stan> "we might be able to stand in the evil day and, when all is done, to stand."

[23:08] <VCI-Bob> Yes - we need to be strengthened

[23:08] <VCI-Stan> Shalom truth

[23:08] <VCI-Stan> lekker loop

[23:08] <truth-VHL> 6thanks that is around 4am Friday for me

[23:08] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, Stan we need that

[23:08] <Beverly-VHL> would that be 4am for you, truth?

[23:09] <VCI-Stan> what's the time there now truth?

[23:09] <Beverly-VHL> oops

[23:09] <truth-VHL> 6baie dankie Stan Sal julle weer sien God's reikste seen vir julle

[23:09] <connied52-VHL> 6i think she said 6am

[23:09] <eden-VHL> its 3.05 pm friday afternoon here bev I'm ahead of truth

[23:09] <VCI-Bob> "But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man." (Luke 21:36 NASB)

[23:09] <VCI-Stan> if it's 6 there then 8 EST is 3 a.m.

[23:09] <VCI-Stan> same as in ISrael :)

[23:09] <truth-VHL> 6COOL eden

[23:10] <Beverly-VHL> yeah!

[23:10] <VCI-Stan> so nice to "chat" in Afrikaans :)

[23:10] <truth-VHL> 6it is 6am here

[23:10] <connied52-VHL> 6i bet you miss that stan

[23:10] <VCI-Stan> interesting that we should pray for strength to escape huh

[23:10] <truth-VHL> 6ons moet dit meer doen

[23:10] <VCI-Bob> dankie Stan? heh heh

[23:10] <eden-VHL> friday will be a good day for everyone I'm sure its been great for me so far:-)

[23:10] <VCI-Stan> not for a rapture to pluck us up

[23:10] <VCI-Stan> Bob LOL

[23:10] <VCI-Bob> right

[23:11] <VCI-Stan> Truth - if it's 6 there then our chat time starts at 3 a.m.

[23:11] <truth-VHL> 6thanks Stan

[23:11] <VCI-Bob> We don't need strength to get raptured out - we don't have to sprout wings :) We need strength to endure what will take plae

[23:11] <VCI-Bob> place

[23:11] <VCI-Stan> however, when VHL starts under new management :)

[23:12] <Beverly-VHL> Amen!

[23:12] <connied52-VHL> 6:-)

[23:12] <eden-VHL> oh yes bob, you said it brother

[23:12] <VCI-Stan> i'll be working on setting up some chat times that are more sociable for th e non-Americans among us :)

[23:12] <connied52-VHL> 6lol i think that would be understandable stan

[23:12] <Beverly-VHL> See if we don't still come!

[23:12] <VCI-Stan> that's it Bob - strength to STAND

[23:12] <truth-VHL> 6thanks MUCH appreciated

[23:12] <VCI-Bob> What could be more refreshing than a 3 AM chat? :)

[23:12] <eden-VHL> hooray, PTL finally

[23:13] <connied52-VHL> 6lol bob

[23:13] <VCI-Stan> Bob knows first hand what he's talking about :)

[23:13] <VCI-Bob> yeah :)

[23:13] <truth-VHL> 6COOl Bob

[23:13] <truth-VHL> 6that is when the Lord speaks Directly to you

[23:14] <VCI-Stan> Lord, sanctify us, purify us, we want to be holy, as You are holy

[23:14] <connied52-VHL> 6you did the 3am thing while you were in Israel right bob/

[23:14] <VCI-Bob> sure did, Connie

[23:14] <Beverly-VHL> Yes Lord,we do

[23:14] <VCI-Bob> Gotta run folks - thanks for a good evening :)

[23:14] <VCI-Bob> Shalom all :)

[23:14] <eden-VHL> yes Lord

[23:14] <connied52-VHL> 6night

[23:14] <VCI-Stan> Bye BOB!

[23:14] <connied52-VHL> 6bob good

[23:14] <truth-VHL> 6Shalom Bob

[23:14] <Beverly-VHL> Goodnite Bob!

[23:14] <connied52-VHL> 6to see you

[23:14] <VCI-Stan> Thanks for everything

[23:14] <eden-VHL> bye bob and thank you

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