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[19:51] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Bob, no crown?

[19:52] <VCI-Bob> Hello friends :)

[19:52] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You must be in New Jersey

[19:52] <Gloria-VHL> Hello Bob

[19:52] <VCI-Bob> no, no crown - I had to download a new version of the software and it doesn't "crown" me :)

[19:52] <Maranatha-VHL> Hi Bob!

[19:52] <VCI-Bob> Hello Gloria, Maranatha, and Bez!

[19:53] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Gee, Bob, what do we talk about?

[19:53] <VCI-Bob> Yes, I am in New Jersey - good guess, Bez

[19:53] <VCI-Bob> Well, let's hear your opinions on the election

[19:53] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Seems like when you are on your laptop, you don't get crowned....:-)

[19:53] <VCI-Bob> yeah :)

[19:54] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Probably have the secret electonic handshake on your home computer.

[19:55] <Gloria-VHL> I think it's going to be a mess

[19:55] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Gloria?

[19:55] <VCI-Bob> You're right, it could get very very messy

[19:55] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Going to be?

[19:56] <Maranatha-VHL> I'm just amazed at the turn of events. The aftermath is blowing me away. It is so bizarre it makes me think it was orchestrated.

[19:56] <Bezalel-VHL> 2The Dow took about a 280 dive right after Daley said Gore was going to fight the returns.

[19:56] <Maranatha-VHL> Almost.

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> Personally, I think the ballet confusion issue is silly - they are not that hard to figure out

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> It is bizarre, Maranatha, but perhaps God is the one orchestrating it, for His own (as yet unknown) reasons

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[19:57] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Nina!

[19:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You ought to hear my wife react to the people who claim they were confused.

[19:57] <Maranatha-VHL> He is in control.

[19:57] <Nina-VHL> Hi

[19:57] <Gloria-VHL> this could change how we have election

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[19:57] <VCI-Bob> Yeah, Bez, probably much the same way I react :)

[19:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2That can only happen through Constitutional Admendment...not an easy feat.

[19:57] <VCI-Bob> Welclome, Elec

[19:57] <Nina-VHL> Have you all ever heard such politicizing

[19:58] <Maranatha-VHL> I wonder if the Arabs will think this is a good time to really attack Israel, while America is distracted by this sillyness

[19:58] <VCI-Bob> Mr Elect, I take it you have definite opinions about these events

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[19:58] <VCI-Bob> Excellent point, Maranatha

[19:58] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Nancy

[19:58] <Nina-VHL> Clinton had his chance to shine today, with Arafat, Barak will be here Sunday

[19:59] <Nancy-VHL> Hello All :)

[19:59] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Nancy

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> Stan contacted me today to notify me about Syria's moves in Lebanon

[19:59] <electionorworldleade> Hi Bob and everyone, let me be amoung the first to ask this question, I've been following the elections for 2 days plus, what is going on and why ...does this have anything to do with the breakdown of our country and the implementaion of a world gov't or leader in the near future? Anyone wish to respond?

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> he posted a news story about it on VHL

[19:59] <Gloria-VHL> I was thinking today monday nite they were saying on the chat Clinton would get nasty after the election maybe God is saying no you don't

[19:59] <Bezalel-VHL> 2You may be right Gloria.

[19:59] <Nina-VHL> Syria is the Assyrians in the Bible right Bob?

[20:00] <VCI-Bob> Elect, I don't have any speculations - but this is strange indeed, and who knows how it will end up

[20:00] <VCI-Bob> Nina, no, they are different regions

[20:00] <Nina-VHL> God knows

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[20:00] <electionorworldleade> Hi, Bob this is Tim:-)

[20:00] <Nina-VHL> oh, well then, who are they?

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[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Assyria is in Mesopotamia

[20:01] <Barbara-VHL> 4Shalom, friends...and weary Americans...

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[20:01] <Maranatha-VHL> Of course it is only speculation, but I have read on the net that Clinton has openly said he will not leave office.

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Barbara, Hope, and Connie!

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Maranatha, I don't put much stock in those rumors

[20:01] <connied52-VHL> Hello good evening Bob

[20:01] <electionorworldleade> anyone have a viewpoint on the bombings or missle fire from Israeli

[20:01] <Hope-VHL> Shalom and Blessings All

[20:01] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Sounds like an urban legend Maranatha

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Even Clinton, if he had such designs, knows he would not get away with it

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> yes, Bez

[20:01] <Gloria-VHL> Hi Barbara,hope and connie

[20:02] <connied52-VHL> hi gloria

[20:02] <Barbara-VHL> 4I understand that if things aren't resolved by January 20th...the speaker of the house becomes "president" until it is resloved

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> Elect, the situation in Israel goes more tense each day

[20:02] <Hope-VHL> Hi Gloria

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> Oh, Barbara?

[20:02] <Bezalel-VHL> 2The internet is a wonderful communications tool, but not a readily verifiable source of information.

[20:02] <Nina-VHL> elect. I saw that there were firings in Bethlahem on some terriorists and rioting at Rachael's tomb today

[20:02] <Maranatha-VHL> Wow, Trent Lott.

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> Last week, Barak said the situation on the Lebanon border was "tight as a spring"

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> or something like that :)

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina......

[20:03] <electionorworldleade> who is going to be watch the middle east while this goes on, and on...If I was a terrist I would be bombing and making my target lists, with the media overwhelmed by the election

[20:03] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Trent Lott is Senate Majority Leadar. Hafsett(?) or something like that is Speaker.

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> Israel took a new step in their response to the Palestinian violence....

[20:03] <Maranatha-VHL> Dennis Hassert, I'm sorry. I get confused.

[20:04] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Thanks Maranatha

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> a direct rocket attack on a car carrying a Fatah leader who was responsible for several Israeli deaths

[20:04] <Nina-VHL> Does anyone know anything about him?

[20:04] <Barbara-VHL> 4I think it is all part of G'd's plan...

[20:04] <electionorworldleade> on the BBC they are talking about the PA and Israel and clinton

[20:04] <electionorworldleade> right now

[20:04] <Hope-VHL> I just signed a letter from saveJerusalem to be sent to our president

[20:04] <Nina-VHL> who ever that might be

[20:04] <Barbara-VHL> 4oh, Hope, can you e-mail that to me?

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[20:05] <Gloria-VHL> That is right Barbara I had forgoten that the speaker will take the spot

[20:05] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Weren't there some flyovers into Lebanon by the IAF?

[20:05] <Nina-VHL> what are they saying elect

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> The news reports seemed to indicated the Arafat was almost giddy after his meeting with Clinton - he must have heard something he very much liked

[20:05] <liz-VHL> oh finally

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> I'm not sure, Bez, I think so

[20:05] <Barbara-VHL> 4Bob...where is your crown?...Lose it?

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Liz!

[20:05] <electionorworldleade> PA's are saying they will fight now, because of this missle attack, they are in it for War, they say today

[20:05] <Nina-VHL> Arafat wants the UN Peace keeping forces

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> No crown tonight :)

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Right, Nina

[20:06] <liz-VHL> hi bob hows florida

[20:06] <liz-VHL> :-)

[20:06] <Maranatha-VHL> Did you all notice after Sharm whatever it is , in Egypt Arafat was all smiles.

[20:06] <electionorworldleade> Lotta attention where you live Bob!!!

[20:06] <Hope-VHL> yesBarbara it is www.savejerusalem.org

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> I'm in New Jersey this week, Liz :)

[20:06] <liz-VHL> oh good huh

[20:06] <Nina-VHL> Arabs in it for war now, can't they accept that a terriorists is asking for death

[20:06] <Barbara-VHL> 4thanks, Hope

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> Yes, indeed - what is the margin now - 300 votes or something?

[20:06] <liz-VHL> 222

[20:06] <liz-VHL> 2 more counties

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> wow - amazing

[20:07] <connied52-VHL> Just wanted to point out as far as the election goes, this US election is more than a political battle, it is a battle being fought in the heavenlies over who God's choice is , many of the prophecies that have come forth in the last few months said , more than any election in history in a long time, the prayers of the people will determine the outcome of this election and if people dont' PRAY PRAY PRAY as never before the outcome

[20:07] <liz-VHL> its crazy

[20:07] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Two counties left to report.

[20:07] <Gloria-VHL> when he took that spot they had a prayer meeting and mr. Hassard prayed I felt he had done it before

[20:07] <Nina-VHL> I can't believe this election how did it get from 1,700 to 222

[20:07] <Nancy-VHL> No matter who gets elected, he will have a very rough job

[20:07] <liz-VHL> i agree connied

[20:07] <Nina-VHL> I agree connied

[20:07] <Barbara-VHL> 4Bob, I heard that it was over 1,700 according to Florida report

[20:08] <liz-VHL> not anymore its 225

[20:08] <Nina-VHL> something very fishy

[20:08] <connied52-VHL> can we stop and pray please that GOD'S CHOICE FOR THE ELECTION WILL PREVAIL

[20:08] <Nancy-VHL> With the Congress split 50/50 and a pres not elected by margin, he will have real problems leading

[20:08] <liz-VHL> yeah it is massive voter fraud

[20:08] <Nina-VHL> yes

[20:08] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Barbara, the state is only reporting 51 counties.

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> I was thinking about what to say about this election, and the thing that strikes me is that people put too much hope in the political process

[20:08] <Maranatha-VHL> WE need to PRAY

[20:08] <connied52-VHL> could we please stop and pray that please. that Gods choice will win

[20:08] <Nancy-VHL> brb

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> Whoever wins, whatever he does, is no solution or hope

[20:08] <connied52-VHL> who will lead

[20:08] <Gloria-VHL> Yes we need to pray

[20:09] <liz-VHL> thats right bob

[20:09] <Nina-VHL> but connied, I think that goes without us having to pray, what we should pray for is that we get in line with God's plan

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> Father

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> we come before

[20:09] <Barbara-VHL> 4There was an official (woman) who reported this on Tom Brokaw's program at 6:30

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> YOU

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> and and storm the heavelies

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> for YOUR choice to prevail

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> we know it is a fight of not just

[20:09] <connied52-VHL> flesh and blood

[20:10] <connied52-VHL> but of principallities

[20:10] <connied52-VHL> in the heavenllies

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[20:10] <connied52-VHL> Lord, we are in our hearts

[20:10] <Hope-VHL> Bob do you feel our prayers change our countries chance on having mercy on our country?

[20:10] <Barbara-VHL> 4Yesm L'rd...we know that sometimes you calm the sotrm...and at other times You let the storm rage and calm Your people!! Thank you for calming us tonight.

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[20:10] <connied52-VHL> down on our knees and ask for Your will to be done we humble ourselves before You

[20:11] <connied52-VHL> and know that wilthout Your intervetion and the prayers of your people

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Hope, yes, God is very merciful, and He holds back His anger - He extends His grace for just a little while longer

[20:11] <connied52-VHL> things are going to go as satan would have them

[20:11] <Barbara-VHL> 4Praise You, L'rd for having total control over all things being done in this country at this time.

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[20:12] <Barbara-VHL> 4Thank you for YHour power to raise men up ...and to put them down.

[20:12] <VCI-Bob> But.... He is looking for people who look to HIM for hope, not to the political process or politicians - He is sovereign, and puts whoever He wants in power for His purposes

[20:12] <Nina-VHL> Heal our land dear Lord

[20:13] <Nina-VHL> Yes Bob, that He may be Glorified

[20:13] <Maranatha-VHL> Yes Lord, we repent for the sins of our country. Lord we seek your face.

[20:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Your Glory is a our only desire.

[20:13] <Hope-VHL> We Praise You Father and give You All the Glory In Jesus Holy Wonderful Name

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> America is are headed in a headlong, accelerating rush to perdition, and no politician or political solution can stop that

[20:13] <Barbara-VHL> 41Praise You, Father...

[20:14] <connied52-VHL> Impress Your people to cry out in pray to Your O Lord and hold back those who would try and change what You would have

[20:14] <Barbara-VHL> Thank You, L'rd

[20:14] <Maranatha-VHL> Oh Lord, do not give us the leader we deserve, but be merciful Lord and give us a Godly man.

[20:14] <connied52-VHL> Yes, one who's heart can be changed by You o Lord

[20:15] <Maranatha-VHL> I praise you Lord , that you are a God of Miracles, & America needs a miracle from you Lord.

[20:15] <Z-VHL> so...does "algore" mean death

[20:15] <connied52-VHL> 6You see the hearts of men Lord let the man who's heart can be bent towards You win

[20:15] <Gloria-VHL> Lord you tell us in your Word if we humble our selves and pray and repent you will heal our land Lord we need you to heal our land we have become a people of too many choices dear Lord bring us back to rightness

[20:15] <connied52-VHL> 6lol z

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> Z - I'm curious, where does that come from?

[20:15] <Hope-VHL> Oh Father That America Wake Up

[20:15] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, Lord

[20:15] <Nina-VHL> Yes, Lord

[20:16] <Z-VHL> what do you mean bob

[20:16] <Barbara-VHL> Amen, L'rd. Thank you for hearing our petitions..

[20:16] <Maranatha-VHL> Wake America Lord from the spell of selfishness.

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> I mean, where does that idea originate - "algore" = death?

[20:16] <Maranatha-VHL> Amen.

[20:16] <Nina-VHL> amen

[20:16] <Barbara-VHL> Amen and amen

[20:16] <connied52-VHL> 6partial birth abortion?

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> Amen

[20:17] <Z-VHL> well I saw in a latin dictionary that "algor mortis" meant the process of death

[20:17] <connied52-VHL> 6amen and amen

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> oh, ok :)

[20:17] <Hope-VHL> Amen

[20:17] <connied52-VHL> 6how interesting z

[20:17] <Nina-VHL> very interesting z

[20:17] <Z-VHL> I see that the Pale Horse's rider's name was death

[20:17] <Nina-VHL> very, very interesting

[20:17] <Z-VHL> he WOULD appear as pale skinned to the writer of Revelation, yes?

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> He's not the pale horse, but he is an advocate of legalized murder of the unborn

[20:18] <Z-VHL> yes, he is a killer

[20:18] <Z-VHL> not just an davocate

[20:18] <Z-VHL> advocate

[20:18] <Z-VHL> a proponent

[20:18] <Nina-VHL> agree

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> Yes, he's enthusiastic about it too

[20:18] <Z-VHL> this election thing going on now is horrible and depressing

[20:19] <Hope-VHL> I pray for his soul he knows not what hes headed for

[20:19] <Gloria-VHL> Lord God we as a people American need to know that you are God and not the goverment that you are over a goverment

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Why depressing, Z?

[20:19] <Z-VHL> they are rigging it

[20:19] <eden-VHL> Shalom Bob and everyone, do you know who has won yet?

[20:19] <Nina-VHL> I wish the Southern Baptist would throw them both out...Clinton and Gore

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Not yet, Eden

[20:19] <Maranatha-VHL> Lord, Help him, plow his heart like the Tennesee tobacco fields.

[20:19] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Good joke eden:-)

[20:19] <Z-VHL> like clinton can't find 5,000 votes in a mialbag coming from overseas

[20:19] <Z-VHL> mailbag

[20:20] <VCI-Bob> Oh, don't let it get you down - God is the one pulling the strings here

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob do you think Stan will be joining us tonight as all eyes even worldwide are on FL

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6lol z

[20:20] <eden-VHL> we have had a few elections like that over here too

[20:20] <Z-VHL> there are lots of absentee ballots still

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, Bob he is

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6i mean gore

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6thought he might be esp interested inchat tonight

[20:20] <connied52-VHL> 6Stan on that one

[20:20] <VCI-Bob> I think Stan is sound asleep in Jerusalem right now

[20:20] <Z-VHL> I know Bob,

[20:20] <Hope-VHL> I think I will vote for Jesus Christ next time if there is a next time

[20:20] <liz-VHL> amen hope me too

[20:21] <connied52-VHL> 6can't lose there hope

[20:21] <Nina-VHL> I can't believe these voters say they are so confused, why did they leave the polls if they were confused

[20:21] <Z-VHL> I doubt he'd want a lowly title like that...;)

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> so don't sweat it - be confident in the Lord, and enjoy watching what He will do :)

[20:21] <Gloria-VHL> amen

[20:21] <liz-VHL> so bob whats the deal with the 3 idf soldiers i heard they were killed

[20:21] <Nina-VHL> amen Bob, the government's are on His shoulders

[20:21] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Good point, Bob.

[20:21] <connied52-VHL> 6last election no one complained when 15,000 votes were tossed out for the same reason, when they favored the democrats

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Liz, there are reports that the three IDF men in Lebanon are dead

[20:21] <Z-VHL> Guess what someone gave me yesterday

[20:22] <Z-VHL> a little tatoo for kids

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> What, Z?

[20:22] <liz-VHL> what will barak do

[20:22] <Nina-VHL> ?

[20:22] <Z-VHL> and it is a BAR CODE

[20:22] <Z-VHL> a bar code tatoo for little kids

[20:22] <connied52-VHL> 6oh, that's scary

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> Liz, one would think Barak should act forcefully in response

[20:22] <Hope-VHL> Yes what ever turns out we know it is in the will of our Wonderful God

[20:22] <Z-VHL> I have it in my wallet

[20:22] <liz-VHL> wwill he though?

[20:22] <eden-VHL> oh no!!! awful

[20:23] <Nina-VHL> you are kidding, I saw on TV where they are going to do away with PIN numbers and do thumbprints

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> Liz, there are signs that he's fed up with the Palestinian tactics, is taking stronger action

[20:23] <Hope-VHL> thats a horrible thought

[20:23] <Z-VHL> yeah, that might be the next incremental step towards full on beast "implants"

[20:23] <VCI-Bob> the helicopter rocketing of that car escalates their response to a new level

[20:24] <Z-VHL> Bob, how does Kilnton figure into the Israel situation

[20:24] <connied52-VHL> 6does anyone know how the 3 soldiers died that they reported on today?

[20:24] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Won't the mark be implemented after the Abomination of Desolation?

[20:24] <connied52-VHL> 6or were there any details

[20:24] <VCI-Bob> Z, reports are that Clinton plans to get rougher on Israel now that he is a lame duck

[20:24] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez

[20:24] <Nina-VHL> There was a woman here in KY shopping last Christmas from California and she told the clerk to scan her hand to get her purchase approved at Penny's, the clerk nearly fainted. Did it and it went through.

[20:24] <Maranatha-VHL> Well, Hillary has been elected, that is not a problem anymore.

[20:25] <Hope-VHL> Oh No

[20:25] <VCI-Bob> We need not worry about the "mark" - when the time comes, taking it will be a deliberate act of allegiance and devotion to the false messiah

[20:25] <Z-VHL> I know of an experiment done in S. California prison and they actually administered medications and poison with those microchips

[20:25] <eden-VHL> Nina, good grief!!!!

[20:25] <VCI-Bob> it will not happen by accident

[20:26] <Z-VHL> Yes, Bob, but would you agree that Christians are way asleep on how advanced the t4echnology has become

[20:26] <liz-VHL> ya know bob have you had this thought...america is gonna be in all this turmoil from this election stuff and our focus and priority will be here and Israel can be attacked

[20:26] <connied52-VHL> 6that's true Bob it will have to be a deliberate act

[20:26] <VCI-Bob> perhaps, Z, but many are informed, and we don't need to be panicing in any event

[20:26] <VCI-Bob> Good point, Liz

[20:26] <Nina-VHL> I would guess that the US will not send our troops, but the UN troops will be sent

[20:26] <connied52-VHL> 6If Israel is attacked they have God to fight with them

[20:26] <Z-VHL> I am not looking for panic, just some vigilance, which from my angle there is only a few small patches here and there

[20:27] <liz-VHL> cuz i think this thing is taking on a life of its own and can get pretty hairy

[20:27] <VCI-Bob> Stan felt this morning that the moves Syria is making seem ominous

[20:27] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, eden just saw you up there

[20:27] <VCI-Bob> Right, Liz

[20:27] <Hope-VHL> Thank God

[20:27] <eden-VHL> I agree bob, it has to be a free will decision not deception

[20:27] <liz-VHL> oooohhhh

[20:27] <Hope-VHL> You know I thought about that myself

[20:27] <Nina-VHL> How powerful is Syria

[20:27] <Z-VHL> Yeah, last week Israel threatened Syria saying "They know how outmatched their military is"

[20:27] <liz-VHL> what moves i am braindead right now

[20:27] <eden-VHL> g'day connie

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> Syria has a large conventional army, and chemical and biological weapons, with the missles to delivery them

[20:28] <connied52-VHL> 6yeah, what happened in Syria

[20:28] <Maranatha-VHL> We don't have to worry, God's word says they will be as is they never existed. Psalms 83.

[20:28] <Z-VHL> Iraq has an army in the region as well

[20:28] <Nina-VHL> That is what I figured the bio and chem will be the weapon of choice

[20:28] <connied52-VHL> 6Amen and Damascus is going to soon be destroyed

[20:28] <Z-VHL> In Jordan

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> I'll post some news stories.....

[20:28] <Maranatha-VHL> I guess that is the Arab confederation.

[20:28] <Nina-VHL> ok

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> - President Bashar al-Assad praised the six-week Palestinian uprising against Israeli occupation on Wednesday and renewed Syria's support for the Palestinians' rights, his spokesman said

[20:28] <Gloria-VHL> I understand BIBI is getting back in action Praise the Lord

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> Joubran Kourieh said Assad made his remarks during a meeting with Sheikh Ikrema Sabri, the Muslim Mufti (preacher) of Jerusalem, and a Palestinian religious delegation.

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> "The Mufti briefed Assad on the situation in the occupied Palestinian lands and the Palestinian people's struggle against the aggressions of the Israeli occupiers," Kourieh said.

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> "President Assad saluted the struggle of our people in Palestine against the Israeli occupation and reiterated Syria's support for the Palestinian people's rights," he said.

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> Joubran Kourieh said Assad made his remarks during a meeting with Sheikh Ikrema Sabri, the Muslim Mufti (preacher) of Jerusalem, and a Palestinian religious delegation.

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> "The Mufti briefed Assad on the situation in the occupied Palestinian lands and the Palestinian people's struggle against the aggressions of the Israeli occupiers," Kourieh said.

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> "President Assad saluted the struggle of our people in Palestine against the Israeli occupation and reiterated Syria's support for the Palestinian people's rights," he said.

[20:30] <connied52-VHL> 6What is the US going to do as far as the soldiers who were killed are concerned

[20:30] <Hope-VHL> I think God is going to intervine and make all their weapons fire on each other

[20:30] <connied52-VHL> 6He's going to do something big, Hope that's for sure

[20:30] <Z-VHL> One word - Neutron Bombs, ok that is 2 words

[20:30] <eden-VHL> or not fire at all Hope?

[20:30] <Barbara-VHL> He's done that before, hope...caused armies to kill each other

[20:30] <Hope-VHL> Amen

[20:30] <Nina-VHL> The thing about chemical or bio warfare, is that it doesn't know the difference between Arab or Jew and will kill both

[20:30] <Gloria-VHL> God is the God of Host

[20:31] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, confusion and such among ranks

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[20:31] <VCI-Bob> More news:

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Syria has begun to pull out its troops from Beirut and its environs, an authoritative Arab news magazine said Thursday

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> Al-Watan Al-Arabi said that Syria meanwhile pulled out its units from Shi'ite-dominated southern Beirut on the night of 31 October in a hushed up operation that lasted 48 hours. The number of troops involved was not mentioned, but the report asserted they were deployed in Bekaa and that Syria was preparing to pull out all other units from the area of the Lebanese capital and its environs. The Syrians have a 30,000-soldier garrison stationed in Lebanon.

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> This does not make a whole lot of sense to me, what's going on there

[20:32] <Hope-VHL> what Bob

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> unless, by deploying in the Bekaa valley, they are taking positions better suited to conflict with Israel

[20:32] <Gloria-VHL> what Bob

[20:32] <Nina-VHL> where is the Bekaa valley?

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> why Syria is pulling its troops out of Beirut

[20:32] <Z-VHL> Russia is ready to swoop down 2

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> It's in Lebanon, Nina, in the east/southeast, adjacent to Syria

[20:33] <Nina-VHL> In Lebanon?

[20:33] <Hope-VHL> wow

[20:33] <Z-VHL> ...AND they are interfering with the elections

[20:33] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob what was the other news

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> It's a large drug growing region also

[20:33] <Nina-VHL> How is Russian interfeting?

[20:34] <Z-VHL> China has 700,000 soldiers in Sudan

[20:34] <Z-VHL> Trust me, Nina through Klinton they are interfering

[20:34] <eden-VHL> to reinforce Damascus, maybe bob???

[20:34] <Maranatha-VHL> Why, are the Chinese in Sudan?

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Z, I talked with a Christian who had been there recently (Sudan) and he said it's true, and not widely reported, that China has a large presence in Sudan

[20:34] <Z-VHL> OIL

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> right, oil

[20:35] <Nina-VHL> wow

[20:35] <Hope-VHL> what is China doing in the Sadan?

[20:35] <Z-VHL> OIL, SLAVE, KILLING CHRISTIANS

[20:35] <Maranatha-VHL> Are we getting ready to see the Ezekiel 38 battle.

[20:35] <Nina-VHL> I read where they are finishing a H U G E budda for religious ceremonies in China

[20:35] <Z-VHL> Iraq and Iran have nukes too

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> Intelligence reports say the Israelis, who were taken alive by Hizb'Allah men disguised as UN soldiers in a UN truck, were killed because of complications that arose later," said Al-Watan Al-Arabi . "Their bodies are kept in separate locations and not even the Lebanese government knows their whereabouts." The report said that the purported killing was reminiscent of the fate of Ron Arad who was captured by Hizb'Allah in 1986 and who was believed to have died later under mysterious

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> circumstances. So far, Hizb'Allah has not revealed the real story behind his disappearance.

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> Iraq may be close to nuclear capability once again, at a crude level

[20:36] <Hope-VHL> Let them go for it they are but puny men next to God

[20:36] <Z-VHL> a top defector says they at least have A-bombs

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> Maranatha, no, not right away, the situation is not right for Ezekiel 38 yet

[20:36] <Maranatha-VHL> The word says they will not prevail.

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[20:37] <Z-VHL> I know the Lord will stop them, but they are ready to go for a try again like 67, IMO

[20:37] <Maranatha-VHL> Help me , what else needs to be in place.

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[20:37] <Maranatha-VHL> ?

[20:37] <eden-VHL> Z to irradiate the Middle East makes no sense because its too close to them

[20:37] <VCI-Bob> Well, the main thing that is not there, is the situation in Israel - if you look closely at Eze 38, the situation described there does not fit yet

[20:38] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob, what do you think the US will do about the killing of the soldiers , if anything

[20:38] <Bezalel-VHL> 2But biological and chemical remain pretty local.

[20:38] <Z-VHL> we're talkibng about KRAZY individuals here too though, eden

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> and will not until this next war that is impending, after which Israel will not be harassed by "malicious neighbors"

[20:38] <Nina-VHL> And remember, these arab nations don't want the Palestinians living with them.

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> nothing, Connie

[20:38] <Maranatha-VHL> OK Bob, I need to read it again!!!:-)

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> yes, Bez

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[20:38] <connied52-VHL> 6werent they americans

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Jael! :) good to have you back again

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> no, Connie, they were IDF

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[20:39] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, jael with the wonderful name

[20:39] <connied52-VHL> 6thanks , Bob

[20:39] <Nina-VHL> he's gone

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> :) Maranatha, one of these weeks we will look at Eze 38 and 39 in detail

[20:39] <Hope-VHL> Hi jael

[20:40] <Maranatha-VHL> That would be fun, Bob.

[20:40] <Nina-VHL> so, then are we at 37

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> Nina, well, we are in the middle of chapter 37 - the bones have come together, but only a few signs of life as yet :)

[20:41] <connied52-VHL> 6lol Bob

[20:41] <Nina-VHL> thanks

[20:41] <connied52-VHL> 6always enjoy your sense of humor

[20:41] <VCI-Bob> sure :)

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[20:41] <VCI-Bob> Welcome again, Jael!

[20:41] <Maranatha-VHL> Bob, do you believe the battle that destroys Damascus is before the Ez. 38 battle?

[20:41] <VCI-Bob> Yes

[20:41] <connied52-VHL> 6hello, jael

[20:41] <Nina-VHL> what was the riot over at Rachael's tomb today, weren't the Jews just in prayer?

[20:42] <Gloria-VHL> Hi Jael

[20:42] <jael-VHL> <thanks!! nice to be here again!:->

[20:42] <Z-VHL> How does the POPE fit into everything with his call today that Jerusalem "belongs to the entire world"

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> Nina, today was the day for remembering Rachel

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> and many Jews wanted to go there

[20:42] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob, don't you think the destruction of Damascus is very soon

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> but the government did not allow out of safety concerns

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> only a few went

[20:42] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Connie, I do

[20:42] <jael-VHL> 3how's everyone?

[20:43] <Maranatha-VHL> It seems the birth pangs are getting closer.

[20:43] <connied52-VHL> 6I hope so

[20:43] <Nina-VHL> The whole earth is in travail

[20:43] <VCI-Bob> Z, the Pope fits in, all right - the world powers will grab at Jerusalem, and the Vatican grabs for it like the rest of them

[20:43] <Gloria-VHL> yes Nina

[20:44] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob,any guess as to what "soon" might be, months or more?

[20:44] <VCI-Bob> no, Connie - anywhere from next week, to months

[20:44] <eden-VHL> The false prophet has to get a hold in the events

[20:44] <Bezalel-VHL> 2And Arafat wants to bring in the UN

[20:44] <Nina-VHL> Well, I am running a fever, I should go and try and get better. C'Ya all next week, Lord willing

[20:44] <connied52-VHL> 6I feel the same way about Damascus, very soon

[20:44] <Z-VHL> did any of you read the posts in the forum for "Maitreya"

[20:44] <jael-VHL> 6God bless nina!!

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> Oh dear Nina - get well, and may the Lord touch your body

[20:45] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Take care of yourself, Nina....get well and God Bless.

[20:45] <nancy-VHL> Bye Nina, hope you get better soon. :)

[20:45] <eden-VHL> GBY Nina

[20:45] <Nina-VHL> thanks bye.

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Z

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[20:45] <Z-VHL> HE IS SCARY

[20:45] <Gloria-VHL> God Bless Nina

[20:45] <Z-VHL> I was messed up for at least 3 days after reading it

[20:45] <Barbara-VHL> Take care of yourself, Nina...

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> Yes, but in my opinion, just a kook on the fringe - one of the "many antichrists"

[20:45] <Barbara-VHL> G'd bless...:-)

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> not a serious player

[20:46] <Z-VHL> i know, but he does have the attention of the globalists, bob

[20:46] <Z-VHL> and there is one televangelist saying Jesus will show up at his crusades and walk around and stuff

[20:46] <Maranatha-VHL> We know the antichrist will not be revealed until the restrainer is removed.

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> there are many who are using psychic powers of various sorts, and yes, their influence is being felt in world events and ideologies

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> right, Maranatha

[20:47] <jael-VHL> 3like false miracles?

[20:47] <Z-VHL> Benny Hinn is saying Jesus is coming to his crusades

[20:47] <Maranatha-VHL> This is definately the days of deception!!!

[20:47] <connied52-VHL> 6Well Jesus is often in Crusades, just usually not visible

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> Yes, it is

[20:47] <jael-VHL> 3yep

[20:47] <Z-VHL> He says he will appear out of thin air just like the BADM does

[20:48] <VCI-Bob> ok - we haven't really gotten to Bible prophecy yet, directly :)

[20:48] <jael-VHL> 3cool

[20:48] <connied52-VHL> 6go for it Bob,, what have you got

[20:48] <Maranatha-VHL> what is the BADM?

[20:48] <Gloria-VHL> Teach us Bob

[20:48] <Hope-VHL> In the Name of Jesus I hope you feel better soon Nina

[20:48] <eden-VHL> I read taj and duncan, oh dear, free speech is a worry sometimes!!!!

[20:48] <nancy-VHL> The ac is supposed to be charming. Maitreya looks scarey.

[20:48] <Maranatha-VHL> Please do Bob!

[20:48] <nancy-VHL> I don't buy into that

[20:48] <Hope-VHL> where is everyone?

[20:48] <nancy-VHL> humm, everyone go to sleep?

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> All rightee :)

[20:49] <jael-VHL> 3nope, i'm not sleeping

[20:49] <jael-VHL> 3i'm reading

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> On Monday, we had episodes where the chat would freeze up

[20:49] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I should be sleeping.

[20:49] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, eden the forums are hard to read sometimes with the anti israel sentiment expressed by some of these people

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> if it does on your machine, be patient

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> OK - here we go

[20:50] <electionorworldleade> hi

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Remember, that many times, Jesus said....

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> "the Father sent me'

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> for example:

[20:50] <connied52-VHL> 6I'm having some freeze up here occasionally, then it will catch up all of the sudden

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24 NIV)

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. (John 4:34 NIV)

[20:51] <VCI-Bob> "He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me." (Luke 10:16 NIV)

[20:51] <VCI-Bob> By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. (John 5:30 NIV)

[20:51] <VCI-Bob> For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. (John 6:38 NIV)

[20:51] <Barbara-VHL> Sorry, Bob...really have to go to bed... Wish I could stay longer for the "lesson"....G'd Bless.

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Night, Barbara :)

[20:52] <connied52-VHL> 6night Barbara

[20:52] <Hope-VHL> Yes Father

[20:52] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Barbara

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Well, we are going to look at....

[20:52] <Barbara-VHL> Shalom....good people

[20:52] <jael-VHL> 3bye barbara, shalom

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> some intriguing Scriptures in Zechariah

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> that use this phrase:

[20:52] <Hope-VHL> Goonight Barbara and God Bless

[20:52] <jael-VHL> 3lila tov!!

[20:52] <connied52-VHL> 6I like zachariah

[20:52] <Gloria-VHL> God Bless Barbara

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> "then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you.

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> These verses.....

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> are prophetic about Jesus, and speak of.....

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[20:53] <VCI-Bob> events in the future that will in the future prove to the Jews that Jesus was sent by the Father

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> and.... they also prove His divine nature

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> that Jesus is in fact Jehovah God

[20:53] <VCI-Bob> ok? :)

[20:54] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yup

[20:54] <eden-VHL> Jesus is God revealed

[20:54] <jael-VHL> 3righto bob

[20:54] <jael-VHL> 3Yeshua is Yahweh

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[20:54] <connied52-VHL> 6amen Bob

[20:54] <Gloria-VHL> Praise God

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> These are really quite fascinating

[20:54] <nancy-VHL> Yep

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> here we go

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me. (Zechariah 2:9 NIV)

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> "Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you," declares the LORD. (Zechariah 2:10 NIV)

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> "Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. (Zechariah 2:11 NIV)

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> oops, I missed the first verse

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered you--for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye-- (Zechariah 2:8 NIV)

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> ok - let's look at these

[20:55] <jael-VHL> 3amen

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> here is what is fascinating:

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered you--for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye-- (Zechariah 2:8 NIV)

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me. (Zechariah 2:9 NIV)

[20:56] <Hope-VHL> We Praise YOU LORD

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> Who is speaking in v 8 and 9?

[20:56] <eden-VHL> God

[20:56] <connied52-VHL> 6the Father i think

[20:56] <nancy-VHL> Jesus

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> LORD - Jehovah (all caps in the English translation)

[20:56] <jael-VHL> 3Yeshua

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> YHVH is speaking

[20:56] <Gloria-VHL> Jesus

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> but......

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> look...

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> Jehovah is speaking... but.... He is also the one sent by... Jehovah!

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> You see it?

[20:57] <nancy-VHL> yes

[20:57] <jael-VHL> 3si si

[20:57] <Hope-VHL> YES

[20:57] <eden-VHL> yes

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> now... here's what is talking about

[20:58] <nancy-VHL> God the Father and God the Son

[20:58] <Gloria-VHL> Amen

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> right

[20:58] <electionorworldleade> So does anyone think that this will be resoloved? ~election wise~ What does God have planned or Saten? anything?

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> It's talking about... Jesus future mission against that nations that come against Israel

[20:58] <VCI-Bob> Let's defer that for a minute, election, ok?

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered you--for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye-- (Zechariah 2:8 NIV)

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me. (Zechariah 2:9 NIV)

[20:59] <electionorworldleade> ok

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> So.....

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> what it is saying, is that one of the ways that Israel will finalize recognize the Jesus was sent by the Father.....

[20:59] <electionorworldleade> I kind of thought that in a global sense, that this would be something that we as Christians whould devote sometime to discuss?

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> is after Jesus is sent once again, but this time "against the nations"

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> yes, it is, but in turn, election

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> see it? :)

[21:00] <nancy-VHL> yes

[21:00] <jael-VHL> 3bob, as in zech 14?

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> then they will know!

[21:01] <connied52-VHL> 6yes

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael

[21:01] <connied52-VHL> 6in the first verse Jesus refers to himself as Lord, in the second he is speaking of the Father as being Lord.

[21:01] <connied52-VHL> 6they are both of each other

[21:01] <Maranatha-VHL> Is that the end of the blindness of the Jews, also fulfilling the time of the gentiles?

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> right

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> "Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you," declares the LORD. (Zechariah 2:10 NIV)

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> "Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. (Zechariah 2:11 NIV)

[21:01] <Maranatha-VHL> So the start of the 70 th week of Daniel, or am I extrapolating too much.

[21:01] <electionorworldleade> I'm not following, I just walked in to the "conversation" It seems that people just talk or discuss various topics , is this a specific one on one kind of conversation?

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> here's the second time he says "you will know that Jehovah sent me to you"

[21:02] <Gloria-VHL> Amen!!!!!!!!!!

[21:02] <jael-VHL> 3and the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations

[21:02] <jael-VHL> 3He will steo on the mount of olives

[21:02] <connied52-VHL> 6election, many of the prophecies that have come forth in the last few months say the PRAYERS of the people will have a direct influence on the outcome of the elections and we are to pray as never before

[21:02] <jael-VHL> 3step, that is

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> and once again, the Jehovah is speaking, and Jehovah is also the one being sent

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> so.... He is coming, and will actually "live among" them

[21:03] <connied52-VHL> 6sorry, Bob my computer just caught up or I would have waited to answer electionor world

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> and... the "many nations" - well, that's us, folks

[21:03] <jael-VHL> 3Lord , have mercy

[21:03] <electionorworldleade> I appologize if I've interupted things.

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> That's ok, election - we'll get back to that, I'm sure :)

[21:04] <eden-VHL> so are you saying that this time Jesus is coming for the Jews to recoginse Him??

[21:04] <milly-VHL> did I miss exactly when this will happen?

[21:04] <Hope-VHL> FROZEN

[21:04] <nancy-VHL> right

[21:04] <milly-VHL> in context of what's going on now, I mean?

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Eden

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> Milly, I don't know the answer to many "when" questions :)

[21:05] <Maranatha-VHL> So if the time of the gentiles are fulfilled, Is it your opinion that is the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel.?

[21:05] <VCI-Bob> not yet, Maranatha

[21:05] <VCI-Bob> soon, perhaps

[21:05] <jael-VHL> 3bob, would the "nations" also be the u.n. who could be coming to defend the plo?

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> in this verse, you mean? Jael? "Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. (Zechariah 2:11 NIV)

[21:06] <jael-VHL> 3no, the one that says many nations will turn against Israel

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> the "nations" are talking about the Gentiles who would be "joined to the Lord" - that is, the church

[21:07] <Maranatha-VHL> WOW, how glorious.

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael - the United Nations will turn against Israel, and in fact already has

[21:07] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Now where did I leave that toolkit. :-)

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> yeah Bez, in fact....

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> the next verses speak directly about the "toolkit" :)

[21:08] <milly-VHL> ok, just don't want to miss anything

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> remember, that we are doing a study of "you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you." in Zechariah

[21:08] <eden-VHL> Bob is that the meaning of the "no jew or gentile" verse? when we are all together as one in Jesus

[21:08] <Gloria-VHL> The UN has already turned against Israel

[21:08] <electionorworldleade> can anyone say with any amount of certainty when the 70th week will start?

[21:08] <Hope-VHL> In the Name of Jesus Christ I demand you quit freezing up

[21:08] <Z-VHL> j

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> Eden, it means there are no distinctions in the assembly of believers, class, racial, social, etc

[21:09] <electionorworldleade> ok, Hope let me know if that worked, I'd like to do the same with my bills, for them to top comming

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> no, we don't know when

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> Let's skip over to Zechariah 4

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> Right, Gloria

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[21:10] <milly-VHL> think I'm freezing too...long pauses & then huge scrolls down

[21:10] <jael-VHL> 3what verse bob?

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[21:11] <eden-VHL> same here

[21:11] <Rich-VHL> 7hello everyone

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> here's one interesting note on this election situation - notice how many former Sec of State's have crawled out of the woodwork? Warren Christopher, George Schultz, James Baker :)

[21:11] <Delta-VHL> hi

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> Hi Rich and Delta!

[21:11] <jael-VHL> 3howdy rich

[21:11] <eden-VHL> shalom rich

[21:11] <milly-VHL> hi. Rich

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> Let's start here:

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty. (Zechariah 4:6 NIV)

[21:11] <Z-VHL> all CFR operatives bob

[21:11] <electionorworldleade> Bob, what signifigence does this have?

[21:11] <Delta-VHL> OK, so lets just let the Speaker of the House run the country, eh?

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> we all know that one, right?

[21:11] <Delta-VHL> LOL

[21:11] <jael-VHL> 3that is interesting

[21:11] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yup, and all political lizards, Bob.

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> Yes Z, and Bez :)

[21:11] <Z-VHL> they are humiliating america and eroding our constitution right now as we speak

[21:12] <eden-VHL> yes bob

[21:12] <Gloria-VHL> Hi Delta,Rich

[21:12] <jael-VHL> 3i have a question that might mess this whole thing a bit

[21:12] <connied52-VHL> 6Hi Delta, loved your website

[21:12] <electionorworldleade> sense I'm the only one who doesen't seem to know , please expline, Bob

[21:12] <Delta-VHL> Thanks Connie

[21:12] <Delta-VHL> Hi Gloria

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> Well, Z, I wouldn't go that far - the humilating is by the people themselves, by their conduct

[21:12] <jael-VHL> 3is america the babylon in revelation?

[21:12] <Rich-VHL> 7Bob, Bez,Delta, Hope, and hi Z how are you all tonight

[21:12] <jael-VHL> 3the great whore

[21:13] <Z-VHL> hey rich

[21:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Rich

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> Election, Z is right, these guys are the power brokers

[21:13] <jael-VHL> 3(pardon my french)

[21:13] <jael-VHL> 3or my kjv

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> No, Jael, not directly or solely

[21:13] <Hope-VHL> Hello Rich

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:13] <electionorworldleade> 4can anyone explain the relevence of the "pwer brokers" comming out of the wood work?

[21:13] <Z-VHL> ANyone who watched all 8 hours of the "election" knows this whole Florida thing is a HUGE scam by Kilinton and the media and the Commies

[21:14] <jael-VHL> 3do you have any further thoughts on it? or would you rather wait?

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> the CFR does have a definite world agenda, and the powers that be are all in on it

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> that's the relevance

[21:14] <electionorworldleade> 4Z, Clinton starts with a C

[21:14] <Z-VHL> OK, I'll try to rmember that

[21:14] <Delta-VHL> CFR?

[21:14] <Z-VHL> Klinton

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> OK - let's get back to Zechariah

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> Council of Foreign Relations

[21:14] <electionorworldleade> 4me too.......CFR

[21:14] <electionorworldleade> 4?????

[21:15] <Rich-VHL> 7yeah Z they just said on fox news that there isn't anything different this time as there was 4 years ago

[21:15] <Delta-VHL> ok

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> enough politics for now :)

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty. (Zechariah 4:6 NIV)

[21:15] <Rich-VHL> 7in that same county

[21:15] <electionorworldleade> 4if a world leader came to power over this, then would anyone want to talk"polatics?"

[21:15] <Delta-VHL> God's Boss, right Bob?

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> Everyone, open your BIbles

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> right, Delta!

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[21:16] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Bob, stupid question, who/what is Zerubbabel?

[21:16] <nancy-VHL> opening

[21:16] <Rich-VHL> 7OK

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> oh, excellent question, Bez!!!

[21:16] <Hope-VHL> yes

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[21:16] <VCI-Bob> (I pay Bez to be my set-up man) :)

[21:16] <Delta-VHL> Hee hee!

[21:16] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-)

[21:16] <nancy-VHL> I see thru it :)

[21:16] <Rich-VHL> 7LOL

[21:17] <Delta-VHL> Zerubabel was a prophet, huh?

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> Zerubbabel, is, though you may not know it, a very very significant character in Bible prophecy!

[21:17] <Rich-VHL> 7what you got Bob

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> He was.....

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> a direct descendant of the line of Kings of Israel

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> and....

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> in the first group who came back from exile in Bablyon

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> along with the prophets Haggai and Zechariah, who both had messages for him

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> AND......

[21:18] <electionorworldleade> 4I heard on the news just now, about a senetor that is talking about what this world and country needs is a singular leader, to bring the world together , thus no political problems like were experiancing....What do you all think of that?

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[21:18] <VCI-Bob> wow, Elect

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Catalina!

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> AND........

[21:18] <Catalina-VHL> Shalom all

[21:18] <Z-VHL> which senator, which station

[21:18] <Rich-VHL> 7sounds like what the world needs Elect

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> Here is one very very interesting fact

[21:19] <Rich-VHL> 7just for it

[21:19] <electionorworldleade> 4well, they will be pursueing this concept with other world leaders, ie. UN

[21:19] <jael-VHL> i think the commies just kicked me offline

[21:19] <eden-VHL> His name (zerubbabel) means seed of babel

[21:19] <milly-VHL> i'm listening , bob

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> Zerubbabel is in BOTH geneologies of Jesus!

[21:19] <milly-VHL> wow

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> <-----listening to Bob:->

[21:19] <Hope-VHL> Shalom Cat

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> but..... from different lines!

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Wow is right Milly!

[21:19] <Rich-VHL> 7God's people don't really care elect

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> he is a prophetic type of the Messiah

[21:19] <nancy-VHL> Didn't know that Bob

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> and,..... there were prophecies given directly to him about the Messiah Jesus, one of his descendants

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> and much much more :)

[21:20] <Catalina-VHL> I dont know if this question has been asked but I saw on the internet earlier that the 3 IDF soldiers that were kidnapped were killed, is this true?

[21:20] <Rich-VHL> 7elect I don't mean to sound too harsh

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> that has been reported, yes, Catalina

[21:20] <Catalina-VHL> Do you think there will be retaliation for this?

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> so.... with that intro, let's look at this

[21:20] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Catalina

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> Everyone open to Zech 4

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> ?

[21:21] <Catalina-VHL> I have a feeling that the other side is up to something also with Israel shooting a missile or rocket? at the other sides leader today

[21:21] <electionorworldleade> 4<---------listening also Bob, just thought you all might want to know that our gov't is thinking of going to a world leader, so as to not have these same problems in the future and that our leaders in this country will be atively talking to other leaders in the UN, a world leader over the U.S.A is what they are in talks about, or at least discussing the chance of. ..That's all I have on that subject.

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> thanks, Elect :)

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> He asked me, "What do you see?" I answered, "I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. (Zechariah 4:2 NIV)

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left." (Zechariah 4:3 NIV)

[21:22] <milly-VHL> thanks elect...yes bob

[21:22] <Rich-VHL> 7Its just that we people of God can see what is happening in the world and know the outcome Elect

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> I asked the angel who talked with me, "What are these, my lord?" (Zechariah 4:4 NIV)

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> He answered, "Do you not know what these are?" "No, my lord," I replied. (Zechariah 4:5 NIV)

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> Now, the angel does not yet give him an answer....

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[21:23] <connied52-VHL> 6yes catalina true

[21:23] <jael-VHL> 3the fact that he was to finish the Temple in the power of the Spirit

[21:23] <connied52-VHL> 6gosh, this computer just sits there for the longest time and then lines and lines of type jump up there, I'm afraid i'm not keeping up very well with everything

[21:23] <jael-VHL> 3is pretty prophetic

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> but... we'll peak ahead :) the 2 olive trees are probably the 2 witnesses

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> exactly

[21:23] <Rich-VHL> 7hang in there connie

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty. (Zechariah 4:6 NIV)

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> We quote this verse a lot

[21:24] <Rich-VHL> 7I think so Bob

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> but did you know it speaks of the rebuilding of the temple?

[21:24] <milly-VHL> no

[21:24] <Hope-VHL> yes

[21:24] <nancy-VHL> wow

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> and ... I believe, the destruction of the Dome of the Rock

[21:24] <milly-VHL> yes, wow

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty. (Zechariah 4:6 NIV)

[21:24] <VCI-Bob> "What are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of 'God bless it! God bless it!'" (Zechariah 4:7 NIV)

[21:25] <Z-VHL> 6 ye shall move mountains

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> the Dome of the Rock is the "mighty mountain" - the large obstacle to rebuilding, that is nothing to God - and will become level ground by the power of God's Spirit!!!!!

[21:25] <nancy-VHL> capstone?

[21:25] <Delta-VHL> YEAH!

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> Then the will bring out the cornerstone, with shouts of excitement

[21:25] <eden-VHL> bob it looks like God himself will level the Dome of the Rock

[21:25] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I would enjoy watching that, Bob!

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> see it?

[21:25] <nancy-VHL> Yea God

[21:25] <Rich-VHL> 7I know it will Bob

[21:25] <jael-VHL> 3what else could possibly happen when Yeshua claims His throne on the Temple Mount?

[21:25] <Gloria-VHL> Amen

[21:25] <Delta-VHL> cornerstone = capstone

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez!

[21:25] <milly-VHL> awesome!

[21:26] <nancy-VHL> thanks Delta

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> Then the word of the LORD came to me: (Zechariah 4:8 NIV)

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> "The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. (Zechariah 4:9 NIV)

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> "Who despises the day of small things? Men will rejoice when they see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. "(These seven are the eyes of the LORD, which range throughout the earth.)" (Zechariah 4:10 NIV)

[21:26] <Maranatha-VHL> WOWEEE

[21:26] <jael-VHL> 3islam doesn't have a rock to stand on(pardon the pun)

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> Plumb line = heritage?

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> So.... in it's final fulfillment, this will be Jesus, descendant of Zerubbable, who will complete it

[21:26] <milly-VHL> :-)

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> ROFL jael!

[21:26] <connied52-VHL> 6I am looking for the destruction of the Dome of the Rock for then the temple can be rebuilt

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> a plumb line is a building tool

[21:26] <jael-VHL> 3;-)

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> right, Jael, and Connie!

[21:27] <connied52-VHL> 6jael, just catching up to your joke, lol

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> Isn't Jesus the cornerstone....?

[21:27] <nancy-VHL> :->

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> Yes, and the master builder :)

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> Then could He not be the plumb line?

[21:27] <nancy-VHL> amen

[21:27] <jael-VHL> 3and we are all built on Him

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> (just asking, really)

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[21:27] <Rich-VHL> 7Bob can you find that verse that talks of us believers helping build the new Temple

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> and.... v 9 brings us back to our theme for the night:

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you.

[21:28] <jael-VHL> 3actually we are the new Jerusalem

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> see it once again?

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> Yeah GOD!

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> "The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. (Zechariah 4:9 NIV)

[21:28] <eden-VHL> yesssssss

[21:28] <jael-VHL> 3oh yeah

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> God is the BOSS!

[21:28] <milly-VHL> exciting

[21:28] <Rich-VHL> 7Lovely

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Once again, Jesus is telling Israel, these are the things that will happen that will prove to you that the Father sent me

[21:28] <jael-VHL> 3Yeshua IS Yahweh!!!!!

[21:29] <nancy-VHL> His name is Wonderful!

[21:29] <VCI-Bob> Glory!

[21:29] <jael-VHL> 3they will behold the One whom they pierced

[21:29] <brayna-VHL> it also says that we are Living Stones, being built into a temple for God's own dwelling place

[21:29] <connied52-VHL> 6Delta, i think Jesus does refer to himself as the cornerstone, but also the jewish people have a capstone or cornerstone ready to be laid they just tried again these last few weeks and were denied

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> Ok, Bob...I am having withdrawal symptoms. More please? :-)

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> well, look at this:

[21:30] <jael-VHL> 3amen

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> what Bez asked for...

[21:30] <Delta-VHL> yeah, Connie. I know that...but Jesus told Peter HE is the foundation, right? So, I guess I kinda see a dual meaning

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> is yet another verse in our theme:

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> (great set-up, Bez) :)

[21:30] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, Delta

[21:30] <Gloria-VHL> Amen

[21:30] <jael-VHL> 3go Holy Ghost

[21:30] <VCI-Bob> Those who are far away will come and help to build the temple of the LORD, and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. This will happen if you diligently obey the LORD your God." (Zechariah 6:15 NIV)

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> All right, Bez, how much is Bob paying you? lol

[21:31] <jael-VHL> 3too cool

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:31] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I'm right on line, waiting patiently....

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> <---on my way to Israel! :-)

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> That you are, Bez!

[21:31] <jael-VHL> 3gimme a hammer

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> LOL Jael!

[21:31] <jael-VHL> 3;-)

[21:31] <connied52-VHL> 6I want to help build the temple!

[21:31] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Doesn't Isaiah have something similar, Bob?

[21:31] <Z-VHL> 6k guys, i gotta run

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> And,,, just before that, is a verse that prophesied that the name of the Messiah would be Jesus:

[21:31] <Maranatha-VHL> Gonna be building a TEMPLE!!!:->

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[21:31] <nancy-VHL> King of all Ages

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[21:31] <Rich-VHL> 7everything is to His Glory

[21:32] <Rich-VHL> 7Bez got your tools ready

[21:32] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Z!

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[21:32] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night, Z

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[21:32] <jael-VHL> 3lila tov, z!:-)

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Or Yeshua, that is, Joshua:

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Take the silver and gold and make a crown, and set it on the head of the high priest, Joshua son of Jehozadak. (Zechariah 6:11 NIV)

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Tell him this is what the LORD Almighty says: 'Here is the man whose name is the Branch, and he will branch out from his place and build the temple of the LORD. (Zechariah 6:12 NIV)

[21:32] <Gloria-VHL> nite z

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[21:33] <VCI-Bob> this man, Joshua, symbolic of things to come, is the man whose name is the "Branch" (a Messianic title)

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> So.... it was prophesied that the Messiah would be named Jesus and would rebuild the Temple

[21:33] <brayna-VHL> 4like in "I am the vine and you are the branches?"

[21:34] <jael-VHL> 3like the branch of jesse?

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[21:34] <VCI-Bob> not exactly, Brayna - there are several Messianic prophecies that speak of the "Branch"

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> yes, Jael

[21:34] <jael-VHL> 3ah

[21:34] <brayna-VHL> 4Joshu = Yeshua in Hebrew!

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. (Isaiah 11:1 NIV)

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD-- (Isaiah 11:2 NIV)

[21:34] <brayna-VHL> 4Joshua

[21:34] <Rich-VHL> 7Bob can you find that verse that tells of us believers helping to build the new Temple

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> Right, Brayna!!! :)

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. (Jeremiah 23:5 NIV)

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:6 NIV)

[21:35] <jael-VHL> 3yep that's the one

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> "'In those days and at that time I will make a righteous Branch sprout from David's line; he will do what is just and right in the land. (Jeremiah 33:15 NIV)

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety. This is the name by which it will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness.' (Jeremiah 33:16 NIV)

[21:35] <electionorworldleade> 4how soon, do you think this temple will be built , in relation to what is "current events of the day"

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> "'Listen, O high priest Joshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. (Zechariah 3:8 NIV)

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Could be soon, election

[21:36] <Rich-VHL> 7come soon Lord Jesus

[21:36] <connied52-VHL> 6soon, election, they have about everything they need to do so

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Those who are far away will come and help to build the temple of the LORD, and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. This will happen if you diligently obey the LORD your God." (Zechariah 6:15 NIV)

[21:36] <jael-VHL> 3maranatha!!

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> Rich, there it is

[21:36] <Rich-VHL> 7thanks so much Bob

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> sure :)

[21:37] <nancy-VHL> got to go, getting tired. God bless all :)

[21:37] <Rich-VHL> 7that verse makes my heart sing

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[21:37] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night, Nancy

[21:37] <eden-VHL> The Servant relates to Isa 42 1-4

[21:37] <electionorworldleade> 4what's keeping the temple from being built as we speak? or is the media not covering it ?

[21:37] <Rich-VHL> 7by by Nancy

[21:38] <brayna-VHL> 4the implements of the Temple have been almost completed... waiting on the Red Heifer (spotless) and one to be the High PriestO

[21:38] <electionorworldleade> 4If I can be honest here with you all, it seems to me that at least in my mind that I thought God's hand moving would be more pronounced with events taking place as they are in the Meast

[21:39] <VCI-Bob> Election, among other things, the fact that the Al Asqa mosque and Dome of the Rock are still on the temple mount

[21:39] <VCI-Bob> watch and see, election :)

[21:39] <VCI-Bob> "Look at the nations and watch-- and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told. (Habakkuk 1:5 NIV)

[21:40] <electionorworldleade> 4not sure I follow , should these things not be there? and if not who tears them down? or removes them?

[21:40] <brayna-VHL> 4also , perhaps the "times of the Gentiles" are not quite done, as the whole world has not yet gotten the word in their language

[21:40] <electionorworldleade> 4I'll have to just like everyone else

[21:40] <Rich-VHL> 7Jerusalem is the stone of stumbleing for the world Election

[21:40] <VCI-Bob> no, they should not be there - they are on God's property, the place where He said His name would dwell

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[21:40] <Rich-VHL> 7just as Jesus said it would be

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[21:41] <VCI-Bob> God will tear them down - one way or another, and soon

[21:41] <electionorworldleade> 4will they be torn down in a war?

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Annie, and LIttleone!

[21:41] <Gloria-VHL> one of these days the temple mount or dome of the rock will be history

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Perhaps, elect

[21:41] <electionorworldleade> 4perhaps a war between Israel and PA?

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> right, Glroia

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Perhaps, elect

[21:41] <Rich-VHL> 7by an earthquake Election

[21:41] <littleone-VHL> 2good evening everyone

[21:41] <littleone-VHL> 2Thank you Bob

[21:41] <electionorworldleade> 4the Big one?

[21:41] <Rich-VHL> 7a world wide earthquake Election

[21:42] <Rich-VHL> 7hi littleone

[21:42] <Annie-VHL> Shalom all, can't bellieve I'm in been waiting quite awhile and last week couldn't get in at all

[21:42] <littleone-VHL> 2Hello Rich

[21:42] <Rich-VHL> 7hi Annie

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> oh dear Annie!!!

[21:42] <electionorworldleade> 4I see, so not in the very near future, many things have to happen first, that has been prophecied about

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[21:42] <Annie-VHL> Hi there Rich

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[21:43] <VCI-Bob> yes, many things have to happen

[21:43] <VCI-Bob> Bez, more on Zerubbabel?

[21:43] <Rich-VHL> 7election the earthquake happens as soon as russian troops step on Israeli soil

[21:43] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Yes!

[21:43] <VCI-Bob> He's a fascinating chap, to use Stan's lingo :)

[21:43] <Bezalel-VHL> 2:-)

[21:44] <electionorworldleade> 4it kind of reminds me of a house of sticks, take one out, then another , & then another pretty soon, it crumbles

[21:44] <VCI-Bob> ok, as I said, Zerubbabel was a significant ancestor of Jesus

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> who came back with the first group of exiles from Babylon and become governor of Judea

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[21:45] <Annie-VHL> Bob is Stan safe?

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> yes, safely tucked in bed :)

[21:45] <electionorworldleade> 4LOL

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> In the second year of King Darius, on the first day of the sixth month, the word of the LORD came through the prophet Haggai to Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest: (Haggai 1:1 NIV)

[21:45] <Annie-VHL> Thank God

[21:46] <connied52-VHL> 6wow, just got back in did i miss anything really good

[21:46] <VCI-Bob> So... both Zechariah and Haggai spoke to and about Zerubbabel

[21:46] <VCI-Bob> probably, Connie - you'll have to catch the transcript :)

[21:46] <connied52-VHL> 6ok

[21:46] <VCI-Bob> Haggai's main message from the Lord was.....

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> get busy building the temple!

[21:47] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Now if I can just remember this good information.

[21:47] <electionorworldleade> 4I'm not following this story very well, Bob... probably just me, but what does this history have to do with todays events and tomarrows world problems?

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> Then Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and the whole remnant of the people obeyed the voice of the LORD their God and the message of the prophet Haggai, because the LORD their God had sent him. And the people feared the LORD. (Haggai 1:12 NIV)

[21:47] <Rich-VHL> 7me too Bez

[21:47] <milly-VHL> well, i froze & am lost so will read chat tomorrow

[21:47] <milly-VHL> nite all

[21:47] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night milly

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> A lot, Election - we learn of God's purposes for the future through what He has done in the past and His declared intentions

[21:47] <connied52-VHL> 6election the history and prophecies of old have a direct bearing on the now

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> night, Milly

[21:47] <Rich-VHL> 7nite mily

[21:48] <electionorworldleade> 4say good night to Vanilley,LOL

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[21:48] <electionorworldleade> 4sorry had to, coulen't resist

[21:48] <VCI-Bob> Then Haggai, the Lord's messenger, gave this message of the LORD to the people: "I am with you," declares the LORD. (Haggai 1:13 NIV)

[21:48] <VCI-Bob> So the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and the spirit of the whole remnant of the people. They came and began to work on the house of the LORD Almighty, their God, (Haggai 1:14 NIV)

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[21:48] <jael-VHL> i'm back

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> Sometime, read the whole book of Haggai and Zechariah in one sitting

[21:49] <Bezalel-VHL> 2So, he spearheaded the reconstruction of the 2nd Temple?

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> and see how they fit together

[21:49] <connied52-VHL> 6jael is your computer freezing up too

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> right, Bez

[21:49] <jael-VHL> 5i guess so

[21:49] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Thank you, Bob...this is enlightening.

[21:49] <Rich-VHL> 7dear folks, I must go, God Bless you all

[21:49] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night rich

[21:49] <connied52-VHL> 6read haggai first?

[21:49] <jael-VHL> 5shalom rich!!

[21:49] <connied52-VHL> 6night rich

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[21:50] <VCI-Bob> yeah, Connie

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> On the twenty-first day of the seventh month, the word of the LORD came through the prophet Haggai: (Haggai 2:1 NIV)

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> "Speak to Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, to Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and to the remnant of the people. Ask them, (Haggai 2:2 NIV)

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> 'Who of you is left who saw this house in its former glory? How does it look to you now? Does it not seem to you like nothing? (Haggai 2:3 NIV)

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> But now be strong, O Zerubbabel,' declares the LORD. 'Be strong, O Joshua son of Jehozadak, the high priest. Be strong, all you people of the land,' declares the LORD, 'and work. For I am with you,' declares the LORD Almighty. (Haggai 2:4 NIV)

[21:50] <electionorworldleade> 4are you kidding, Bob with two small ancle biters, being a stay at home dad, I hardly have time to sit on the thrown and read a sentence in a parenting magazine

[21:50] <Maranatha-VHL> g'night Rich

[21:50] <Annie-VHL> Oh Rich too bad good night God Bless

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> sure you do, Election - just make the time :)

[21:51] <jael-VHL> 5:-> with 4 sweet ankle , i mean angels, it's a challenge, but i like challenges!!

[21:51] <electionorworldleade> 4sure, I'll kind of whip up some time in the blender and I should have plenty time left over, you must not have two kids under the age of 4 to take care of.

[21:51] <eden-VHL> Bob, is Nehemiah a builder of Jerusalem or the temple?

[21:51] <electionorworldleade> 4:->

[21:51] <VCI-Bob> Now, so far, Haggai has only spoken of the events of the day... but now he switches

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> Eden, Nehemiah built the walls, right?

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> later

[21:52] <eden-VHL> ok thanks

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> "For thus says the LORD of hosts, 'Once more in a little while, I am going to shake the heavens and the earth, the sea also and the dry land. (Haggai 2:6 NASB)

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> 'And I will shake all the nations; and they will come with the wealth of all nations; and I will fill this house with glory,' says the LORD of hosts. (Haggai 2:7 NASB)

[21:52] <Gloria-VHL> later what

[21:53] <VCI-Bob> Nehemiah built the walls several years later

[21:53] <VCI-Bob> now.... this is speaking of God's future "shaking"

[21:53] <VCI-Bob> which we have talked about at length in previous sessions

[21:53] <Bezalel-VHL> 2And the nation's coming to assist...

[21:53] <jael-VHL> 5could that be happening now?

[21:53] <electionorworldleade> 4ok, now I'm paying attention, Bob

[21:54] <VCI-Bob> jael, starting soon, or maybe even now

[21:54] <jael-VHL> 5things look shakey

[21:54] <littleone-VHL> 2Bob, I believe in Ezequial there is the pophecy where countries such as Syria, Iraq an other will attack Israel with the intention to destroy and invade, but..the Almighty God shows His great power and deliveres Israel again in a Majestic way? Am I incorret about this, and it is possible this will happen soo?

[21:54] <electionorworldleade> 4talk about God shaking anything, I've got my listening ears on , as I tell my toddler

[21:55] <jael-VHL> 5as Israel goes, so goes the world

[21:55] <brayna-VHL> 4( .. )

[21:55] <VCI-Bob> yes, littleone, let's defer that, ok - I have one more passage from Haggai, then we will address that, ok?

[21:55] <jael-VHL> 5she is shaking big time

[21:55] <littleone-VHL> 2Oh, my appologies Bob. Please continue

[21:55] <VCI-Bob> Now... this is the very end of the book of Haggai, and the climax of his prophecies

[21:55] <VCI-Bob> brings it all together, with Messianic significance

[21:55] <electionorworldleade> 4I've actually felt a sense of calm, like before a major store is to hit, just a feeling, don't know why exactly

[21:55] <VCI-Bob> here it is:

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> The word of the LORD came to Haggai a second time on the twenty-fourth day of the month: (Haggai 2:20 NIV)

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> "Tell Zerubbabel governor of Judah that I will shake the heavens and the earth. (Haggai 2:21 NIV)

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> I will overturn royal thrones and shatter the power of the foreign kingdoms. I will overthrow chariots and their drivers; horses and their riders will fall, each by the sword of his brother. (Haggai 2:22 NIV)

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> "'On that day,' declares the LORD Almighty, 'I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,' declares the LORD, 'and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,' declares the LORD Almighty." (Haggai 2:23 NIV)

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> OK - prophecy students, tell me what this means

[21:57] <electionorworldleade> 4it means that God is mad as Hell and isen't takin' this stuff anymore

[21:57] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Honest, the dog ate my homework...

[21:57] <jael-VHL> 5signet ring represents authoruty and royalty, does it not?

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> well, that's a rough paraphrase, Tim, but a good start perhaps :)

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> right, Jael!!

[21:57] <electionorworldleade> 4LOL, Bob

[21:57] <electionorworldleade> 4I'm rough around the edges, my friend

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> :)

[21:58] <connied52-VHL> 6yes, jael

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> go with that, Jael - what else?

[21:58] <jael-VHL> 5King of kings!!

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> righto!

[21:58] <brayna-VHL> 4the stamp of God's presence in an event

[21:58] <electionorworldleade> 4earthquake?

[21:58] <electionorworldleade> 4the election?

[21:59] <electionorworldleade> 4the problems in the middle east?

[21:59] <connied52-VHL> 6guys, i'm going to have to go, with the computer freezing up so much i'm going to have to read the chat later,, God Bless everyone and goodnight

[21:59] <eden-VHL> the Day of the Lord followed by the return of Jesus

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> It's a messianic prophecy of the descendant of Zerubbabel, the Messiah Jesus, who will have the full authority of God

[21:59] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night connie

[21:59] <electionorworldleade> 4many kinds of massive floods all over the world like were having?

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> Bye, Connie!

[21:59] <Annie-VHL> Nite Connie and God Bless

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> "Tell Zerubbabel governor of Judah that I will shake the heavens and the earth. (Haggai 2:21 NIV)

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> I will overturn royal thrones and shatter the power of the foreign kingdoms. I will overthrow chariots and their drivers; horses and their riders will fall, each by the sword of his brother. (Haggai 2:22 NIV)

[21:59] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Wouldn't a signet ring also be used to "seal" documents?

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Bez

[22:00] <brayna-VHL> 4good night also... was up at 5 am for work, and I'm fuzzy.. Shalom!

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> like the seven seals in Revelation

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> Night, Brayna!

[22:00] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night brayna

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[22:00] <electionorworldleade> 4Bob,.... in all seriousness I respect your view allot. Are you saying the 7 seales are opening up now, or will be by next year?

[22:01] <Annie-VHL> Sleep well Brayna

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> And... this warrior Messiah is going to go to battle against the world armies and powers, this decendant of Zerubbabel

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> Tim, as I said before, I'm not good on the "when" questions :)

[22:01] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Toppling thrones and shattering power.

[22:01] <VCI-Bob> right, Bez

[22:02] <electionorworldleade> 4ok, well you can't just throw out something as serious as the 7 seals and not expect a person to ask when for heavens sake.

[22:02] <Gloria-VHL> could that be us

[22:02] <VCI-Bob> :)

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[22:02] <Bezalel-VHL> 2The falling by the sword of their brother brings up some very visual thoughts.

[22:02] <VCI-Bob> It's all the world governments and powers, Gloria - but not "us" - we are not on that side, but on the Lord's side

[22:02] <Annie-VHL> I pray that it is not us

[22:02] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Iraq vs. Iran.

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> it's only "us" if you identify with the world instead of the Lord - we are a holy nation, a called out people

[22:03] <eden-VHL> Bob was Melchizedek of the same line as Zerrubabel??

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> no, Eden, he was a contemporary of Abraham, long before this

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> look once more at v 23:

[22:04] <Gloria-VHL> yes we are in the world but not of the world

[22:04] <eden-VHL> I know but was he of the same line?

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> and look at the affection expressed in it

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> no, Eden

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> "'On that day,' declares the LORD Almighty, 'I will take you, my servant Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel,' declares the LORD, 'and I will make you like my signet ring, for I have chosen you,' declares the LORD Almighty." (Haggai 2:23 NIV)

[22:04] <Annie-VHL> I feel HE will hide us while HE finishes them off

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> The affection of the Father for the Son

[22:04] <eden-VHL> ok, wrong again, :-(

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> :) that's ok, Eden :)

[22:05] <electionorworldleade> 4As the room grows smaller, I'd like to ask everyone if they have a personal opinion as to the time line when "each of you" think a war and or a world leader will come to play, also the seals as Bob mentioned,

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> soon, Tim :)

[22:05] <Gloria-VHL> soon

[22:05] <Annie-VHL> soon

[22:06] <Bezalel-VHL> 2PA will declare their state on Nov 13

[22:06] <electionorworldleade> 4soon as in soon you will answear my questions or soon as in the answear to my question, soon?

[22:06] <Gloria-VHL> is that the new date

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> Tim, I don't like to make date predictions, as you know, but I really do feel that we entered a new phase of history at this Rosh Hashanah, that marching orders were given in Heaven to set events in action

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> I'm back :)

[22:11] <eden-VHL> yes, this chat room plays some VERY strange tricks bez

[22:11] <Maranatha-VHL> Bob, what happened?

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> got disconnected

[22:11] <Maranatha-VHL> WB

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> Bush got 4 more votes, now 229

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> one more county to go

[22:12] <Annie-VHL> Mabey BIG BROTHER is listening

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> And Janet Reno's on CNN - man, she looks bad

[22:12] <eden-VHL> election maybe it was the Lords comment on date setting!!!!

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> :) Eden

[22:12] <Gloria-VHL> That's what I was thinking

[22:13] <Maranatha-VHL> Maybe BIG BROTHER will get saved.

[22:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I don't know if Janet has ever looked good, since she went to work for Clinton.

[22:13] <VCI-Bob> sin is hard on a person

[22:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2ROFL

[22:13] <eden-VHL> Bob, very good, 7 gold stars

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> Eden, you had a question about Ezekiel?

[22:14] <Annie-VHL> Hey guys WE'VE GOT HILLARY lucky us

[22:14] <eden-VHL> er not me I thinik it was bez

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[22:14] <VCI-Bob> yeah, lucky us

[22:14] <littleone-VHL> 2No, it was me Bob

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> If she were not a woman, I'd say she's make a great antichrist candidate

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> oh, sorry, littleone - what was your question?

[22:15] <eden-VHL> LOL, Bob

[22:15] <jael-VHL> ok, i'm back again

[22:15] <jael-VHL> 6bad computer

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> Welcome back, Jael

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> bad bad computer :)

[22:15] <Maranatha-VHL> I heard someone on CNN say Hillary was probably the "new face" of the democratic party

[22:15] <jael-VHL> 6thanks:->

[22:16] <VCI-Bob> the new face, huh? that "new face" probably should be behind bars - she sure skated around a lot of potential indictments

[22:16] <jael-VHL> 6i actually had another thought about the signet ring, but now we're on billary

[22:16] <VCI-Bob> Tell, us Jael :)

[22:16] <jael-VHL> 6a signet ring is one that seals....

[22:17] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Bush has to win. I want to see Hillary try to function with Cheney presiding in the Senate.

[22:17] <Annie-VHL> Yeah!!

[22:17] <jael-VHL> 6and Who was promised by Joel and would be a sign of the end?

[22:17] <VCI-Bob> tell us

[22:17] <littleone-VHL> 2Is it in Ezequial where is prophecied that Iraq, Syria and other countries will attack Israel all together but God Almighty will intervine with His Great power and show His greatness and standing with Israel and destroy all Her enemies once more in a great battle?

[22:17] <jael-VHL> 6the Holy Spirit is the seal of the work of redemption and will be poured out on all flesh

[22:17] <VCI-Bob> It's in Ezekiel 38 and 39.....

[22:17] <eden-VHL> bob I am going to dig in the OT I am sure there is something about Melchizedek and Zerrubabel, its connected in some way

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> but Syria is not in that prophecy

[22:18] <littleone-VHL> 2Which countries are?

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> ok Eden, dig in! We will await your findings next time!

[22:18] <jael-VHL> 6that's all, i lost something while i was trying to get back on

[22:19] <electionorworldleade> 4ok, I'm back

[22:19] <eden-VHL> probally fall flat on my face, oh well not the first time

[22:19] <VCI-Bob> seem like Russia, Libya, Iran, Sudan, Turkey, European countries

[22:19] <littleone-VHL> 2Thank you.

[22:19] <electionorworldleade> 4up date, bush is still in the lead by 229 votes with one couty to go

[22:19] <electionorworldleade> 4county

[22:19] <VCI-Bob> Eden, you'll have good things to share, I'm sure :)

[22:19] <jael-VHL> 6and whiney al is going to take it to court

[22:20] <VCI-Bob> :) Jael

[22:20] <jael-VHL> 6;-)

[22:20] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Eden, did you get your scholarship to an Israeli university?

[22:20] <VCI-Bob> Once again, folks, keep your eyes attentive to the events in Israel

[22:21] <Annie-VHL> I've got to go got to get up early, bless you all, study and stay close to HIM nite

[22:21] <jael-VHL> 6amen, as she goes the world goes

[22:21] <VCI-Bob> Night, Annie!

[22:21] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I think I'm going to sign off, and go start Haggai :-)

[22:21] <jael-VHL> 6lila tov, annie!

[22:21] <VCI-Bob> :) Great, Bez!! Night!

[22:21] <littleone-VHL> 2I will Bob. I am planning to be there soon in January 2001

[22:21] <Maranatha-VHL> Bye

[22:21] <electionorworldleade> 4ok, does anyone want to takle my previous question having to do with the seven seals or current events as they relate to prophecy?

[22:21] <jael-VHL> 6happy reading

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[22:21] <Gloria-VHL> I also must go God Bless

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[22:22] <VCI-Bob> Tim, the seven seals signify the commencement of the events in Revelation

[22:22] <jael-VHL> 6shalom gloria

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Tami!

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[22:22] <eden-VHL> scholarship bez??? eh???

[22:22] <Maranatha-VHL> HI Tami

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> Littleone, that's great!! I want to go back soon

[22:22] <eden-VHL> oh he's gone

[22:22] <Tami-VHL> Hello!

[22:22] <jael-VHL> 6erev tov, tami

[22:23] <electionorworldleade> 4are those closer to taking place than the rapture?

[22:23] <jael-VHL> 6yikes!

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> My question is, which county is left in Florida, and why in the world can't they count the votes in one day?? :)

[22:23] <jael-VHL> 6palm beach

[22:23] <electionorworldleade> 4Bob, look at MSNBC web site

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> Tim, depends on your perspective of the rapture, when it occurs in the scheme of things

[22:23] <electionorworldleade> 4it's got a county by county vote

[22:24] <littleone-VHL> 2I shall arrive in TelAviv January 12, because I loose 11 hours in Amsterdan and I will stay in Jerusalem 20 days in The Alliance Guest House.

[22:24] <jael-VHL> 6cause they are too confused and don't even know how to use ballots right(just kidding)

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> actually, it does not "depend" on that, because God's going to do the rapture according to His timetable, not ours :)

[22:24] <electionorworldleade> 4when do the Christians, get takin up stairs,

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> wow, lttleone!

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> :) Jael

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> when, Tim? When Jesus appears!

[22:25] <jael-VHL> 6who runs the alliance house?

[22:25] <littleone-VHL> 2Since I was a child the Lord engraved Israel in my heart and my love for Her and Her people is more than a word can describe

[22:25] <jael-VHL> 6bob:->

[22:25] <electionorworldleade> 4So, what your saying is Jesus appears first then the rapture or at the same time? ,Bob

[22:25] <jael-VHL> 6amen, me too little

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> At the same time

[22:26] <eden-VHL> oh election stop it, your driving me up the wall

[22:26] <electionorworldleade> 4I wish you would come to our church here in Ca, Bob and talk

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. (1 Thessalonians 4:16 NIV)

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. (1 Thessalonians 4:17 NIV)

[22:26] <jael-VHL> 6now, now

[22:26] <electionorworldleade> 4eden, what's your problem?

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> Love to, Tim

[22:26] <jael-VHL> 6like a big kiss

[22:26] <VCI-Bob> Be nice, people :)

[22:26] <jael-VHL> 6smack!

[22:27] <littleone-VHL> 2Yes. It is like my believe and love for Yeshua and my love for all Jewish people make and Israel makes me complete in all my being,

[22:27] <eden-VHL> being scolding SORRY, please forgive me?

[22:27] <jael-VHL> 6:-*

[22:27] <electionorworldleade> 4:-p

[22:27] <electionorworldleade> 4mood swings or what, eden?

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> There, everybody hug now :)

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> Tim

[22:27] <electionorworldleade> 4sorry, bob

[22:27] <jael-VHL> 6can you feel the love in this room, or what?!

[22:27] <electionorworldleade> 4LOL

[22:28] <jael-VHL> 6i just love the body of Christ

[22:28] <electionorworldleade> 4So Bob, what do I need to do to get you over here?

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Eden, it's ok - we're all brothers and sisters here :) and even if we spat, we still love each other :)

[22:28] <electionorworldleade> 4to prophecy for our church?

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Invite me, and get me a ticket

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> I don't "prophesy" Tim

[22:28] <eden-VHL> yes, bob o worthy leader, :-)

[22:29] <jael-VHL> 6and we're all still human , living in a corrupt world, trying to be like Jesus

[22:29] <electionorworldleade> 4I mean to say, teach prophecy, Bob

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> I teach the Scriptures

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> Right, Jael

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> :) Eden

[22:29] <electionorworldleade> 4I'm inviting you now, the $$$ will have to come from either you or from God I suppose, I don't have that Kind of cash

[22:30] <jael-VHL> 6what were we talking about, anyway?

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> Well, folks. looks like that time

[22:30] <Tami-VHL> Are you in Israel Bob?

[22:30] <eden-VHL> bob's new ministry

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> No, Tim, I didn't mean you buying a ticket for me

[22:30] <jael-VHL> 6what? so soon?

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Eden

[22:30] <jael-VHL> 6where?

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> No, Tami, I live in Tampa, but now am in New Jersey

[22:30] <electionorworldleade> 4consider yourself invited, I'll even pay for your meals, and you can stay at our home

[22:31] <jael-VHL> 6i was born in tampa:-)

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> :) Tim - Well, have your pastor contact me if you are serious about it

[22:31] <jael-VHL> 6man, what a deal

[22:31] <electionorworldleade> 4ok, I will

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> Yeah, Jael? Only 5 years for me

[22:31] <eden-VHL> and you could answer all his questions, bob, what a deal!

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> LOL Eden

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> Tim has many many question - I doubt if I could adequately answer them :)

[22:32] <electionorworldleade> 4better make your reservations, I act swiftly , when I make my mind up

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:32] <electionorworldleade> 4LOL, Bob:->

[22:32] <jael-VHL> 6i don't know how long we lived ther...the rest of my life has been a 36 year tour of florida, from ft. laud to pensacola, where i am now

[22:33] <Maranatha-VHL> I bet you all really feel the turmoil over the election.

[22:33] <electionorworldleade> 4Like a child, I have many unasweared questions, I come to the Lord in an inquizitve way (sp?)

[22:33] <littleone-VHL> 2I must go now. I need to go to a class, but I must express to all of you, specially to you Bob that even if I can only come once in a while..it is a blessing to just be here and listen to all of you.

[22:33] <jael-VHL> 6oh yeah

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Oh, Jael, you just revealed your age!

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Bye Littleone! We are so glad you joined us again!!!

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Come back soon!

[22:33] <jael-VHL> 6oh, i don't care

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:33] <littleone-VHL> 2May the Lord keep you always under His mighty Wings

[22:34] <VCI-Bob> thank you

[22:34] <eden-VHL> good for you election, and I mean that, ok

[22:34] <jael-VHL> 6shalom little one...keep the fire burning

[22:34] <littleone-VHL> 2I will Bob. Thank you

[22:34] <littleone-VHL> 2I will Jael. He is taking me home soon. Israel

[22:34] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:34] <jael-VHL> 6hopefully me too, at pesach

[22:35] <jael-VHL> 6i'm praying

[22:35] <littleone-VHL> 2With love. Shalom

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[22:35] <jael-VHL> 6lila tov

[22:35] <VCI-Bob> Jael, tell everyone what pesach is

[22:35] <jael-VHL> 6passover

[22:35] <eden-VHL> passover?

[22:35] <electionorworldleade> 4I kind of want to end this evening with this question,...what is next in the prophecy for our day we live in?

[22:35] <jael-VHL> 6repentance!!

[22:35] <eden-VHL> come back to the Lord EVERYONE

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> good answer, Jael - that is what should be next for each of us, right?

[22:36] <electionorworldleade> 4I mean as an action on Gods agenda

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> but.... Tim, perhaps the war with Syria, very soon

[22:36] <jael-VHL> 6especially america and the church here

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> right, Jael

[22:36] <jael-VHL> 6and saddam hussein

[22:36] <jael-VHL> 6??

[22:36] <electionorworldleade> 4So a major war with Syria, any news on Syria, Bob

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> Remember that verse in Haggai?

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> it is quoted in Hebrews

[22:37] <electionorworldleade> 4which

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? (Hebrews 12:25 NIV)

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." (Hebrews 12:26 NIV)

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is, created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain. (Hebrews 12:27 NIV)

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, (Hebrews 12:28 NIV)

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> for our "God is a consuming fire." (Hebrews 12:29 NIV)

[22:38] <jael-VHL> 6oh boy, is He!!!

[22:38] <VCI-Bob> Yes, He is

[22:38] <jael-VHL> 6He consumes everything that's consumable

[22:38] <jael-VHL> 6and only the gold will remain

[22:38] <VCI-Bob> Yes

[22:39] <jael-VHL> 6refined 7 times

[22:39] <eden-VHL> yes

[22:39] <eden-VHL> "for all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God"

[22:39] <VCI-Bob> OK, friends, time for me to go - thanks so much for your participation once again - I appreciate it greatly

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[22:39] <VCI-Bob> Good night, all! Shalom in the name of Jesus!

[22:39] <electionorworldleade> 4night bob, god bless

[22:39] <jael-VHL> 6the LORD bless you bob, and reveal much more to you in His Spirit!! shalom

[22:39] <eden-VHL> GBY bob and thank you

[22:40] <jael-VHL> 6and to everyone else too

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