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[19:56] <VCI-Bob> Stan plans to join us later...

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[19:56] <VCI-Bob> which is difficult for him because it's 2 AM there

[19:56] <Toria-VHL> 5hi bob

[19:56] <Kathy-VHL> ut Georgia

[19:56] <Georgia-VHL> 4Glad we had this room to do it in..

[19:56] <Barbara-VHL> 3Thank you, Georgis...for your faithfulness...

[19:56] <Barbara-VHL> 3a

[19:56] <kmmullins> yes

[19:56] <Georgia-VHL> 4He IS faithful..

[19:56] <Georgia-VHL> 4thank you Lord..

[19:56] <VCI-Bob> Hi Toria :)

[19:56] <Jan-VHL> :-)

[19:57] <Georgia-VHL> 4it's a privilege, isn't it?

[19:57] <Barbara-VHL> 3Hi Bezalel

[19:57] <VCI-Bob> Yes, it is - amazing that He would choose us

[19:57] <Georgia-VHL> 4You'll all have to come to the Ladies for the Lord room next week.. if it's open..

[19:57] <eden-VHL> yes, Lord, thank you

[19:57] <Georgia-VHL> 4Yes.. you're right..

[19:57] <Jan-VHL> The Lord has changed my direction recently

[19:57] <VCI-Bob> it's all about His great grace and mercy

[19:57] <Georgia-VHL> 4He uses the foolish things of the world to confound the wise,, ,right?

[19:57] <Georgia-VHL> 4Ha..

[19:57] <kmmullins> i will be there

[19:57] <Kathy-VHL> right Ga

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[19:58] <VCI-Bob> yes, indeed

[19:58] <Jan-VHL> can anyone pray

[19:58] <Georgia-VHL> 4Well, dear ones..must leave.

[19:58] <Barbara-VHL> 3I'll try, Georgia

[19:58] <VCI-Bob> Pray away! :)

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[19:58] <Georgia-VHL> 4I have tied up my phone lines for over an hour and I have to feed my hungry pastor hubby..

[19:58] <eden-VHL> goodbye, georgia, GBY and yours

[19:58] <VCI-Bob> God's blessings to you, Georgia!

[19:58] <Barbara-VHL> 3Give him our thanks, too, Georgia..

[19:58] <VCI-Bob> Shalom!

[19:58] <Georgia-VHL> 4love you all.. shalom.. and we continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem and look for our dear Lord's return.. you, too Bob.

[19:58] <Barbara-VHL> 3Shalom..

[19:58] <skip-VHL> HEY YA'LL HI

[19:58] <Jan-VHL> GBY Georgia

[19:58] <eden-VHL> see you next week, going to stay for this now

[19:59] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Skip

[19:59] <Barbara-VHL> 3Hi skip

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[19:59] <eden-VHL> Hi skip

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> OK, now it's time to commence the weekly Prophecy Chat...

[19:59] <Jan-VHL> I could use prayer if anyone up to it

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> which we are calling the War Room this week because of the situation

[19:59] <mamapenny-VHL> Hi Scip

[19:59] <Barbara-VHL> 3Have you a special need, Jan?

[19:59] <VCI-Bob> let's pray for Jan

[19:59] <Kathy-VHL> sure Jan

[19:59] <skip-VHL> 4I Pray your ok

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[20:00] <Jan-VHL> Ye s the Lord had me take a job at a grocery store

[20:00] <eden-VHL> go Jan

[20:00] <Jan-VHL> and I was praying quite a bit

[20:00] <Jan-VHL> now I feel a distance

[20:00] <Jan-VHL> and I even drempt last night

[20:00] <Jan-VHL> that I was trying to call my dad and lost the phone number!

[20:00] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Dovecry

[20:00] <Jan-VHL> I just want to make sure I am in His will

[20:00] <dovecry-VHL> hi

[20:01] <kmmullins> hello

[20:01] <dovecry-VHL> hi kmmullins

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Well, Jan, He has not lost your number, and is always waiting when we decide to "ring him up", right?

[20:01] <Jan-VHL> maybe it sounds silly

[20:01] <Jan-VHL> yep

[20:01] <eden-VHL> jan, "be anxious for nothing.."

[20:01] <Jan-VHL> I am missing my tim

[20:01] <Jan-VHL> time

[20:01] <VCI-Bob> Lord, we ask you for wisdom on behalf of Jan....

[20:01] <Jan-VHL> but for His Glory

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> you have promised it for all who ask

[20:02] <Kathy-VHL> yes Father

[20:02] <VCI-Bob> and we ask you to give her an understanding of your will for her in this situation

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[20:02] <VCI-Bob> Thank you Father, for hearing our petition on her behalf

[20:03] <dovecry-VHL> bless Your people Lord with the understanding we need

[20:03] <Barbara-VHL> 3Give her a peace where she is in your will, but stir her heart if she needs to make some changes...

[20:03] <Jan-VHL> thank you

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Blessed

[20:03] <blessed-VHL> Hi Bob

[20:03] <eden-VHL> Amen

[20:03] <blessed-VHL> how is everyone, tonight?

[20:03] <Jan-VHL> got to go but thank yo u all

[20:03] <Jan-VHL> GBy

[20:03] <VCI-Bob> Today has been a very eventful day in Israel and the Middle East

[20:03] <Barbara-VHL> 3nite, Jan...peace be with you..

[20:03] <blessed-VHL> yes

[20:03] <Kathy-VHL> tell us Bob

[20:03] <called_out-VHL> listening

[20:04] <Jan-VHL> thanks

[20:04] <eden-VHL> GBY Jan

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> I'm going to past this from Arutz Sheva....

[20:04] <dovecry-VHL> Thank You Father for Your Divine Guidence, in Jesus name,Amen

[20:04] <Jan-VHL> My heart is with you all praying for Israel

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> The IDF reacted to today's brutal lynching of two Israeli soldiers in Ramallah with five bombing raids on carefully-selected buildings in Ramallah and Gaza.

[20:04] <blessed-VHL> we need to pray for Israel more than ever

[20:04] <VCI-Bob> Today's events began when two soldiers, on their way back to their army base in or near Beit El after a short furlough from their reserves duty, were brutally lynched by a wild mob of Arabs. Palestinian sources falsely reported that they were undercover agents. The Israelis entered the city by mistake, and were detained by the Palestinian police.

[20:04] <Jan-VHL> Maybe I am being silly for this job thing

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[20:04] <kmmullins> no jan

[20:05] <Barbara-VHL> 3farrell...:o

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[20:05] <VCI-Bob> it was a horrid scene - one or two thousand crazed Palestinians around the police station in Ramallah

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[20:05] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Stan!!!

[20:05] <kmmullins> high stan

[20:05] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Stan

[20:05] <Barbara-VHL> 3Shalom, Stan....

[20:05] <blessed-VHL> Hi Stan

[20:05] <VCI-Bob> And welcome, Proverbs31

[20:05] <VCI-Stan> Shalom everyone

[20:05] <eden-VHL> Stan:-)

[20:05] <dovecry-VHL> Hi brother, hhow are you Stan?

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> Folks, I hope you appreciate the sacrifice Stan makes to get up at 2 AM to join us from Jerusalem :)

[20:06] <Jan-VHL> My good friends son is on a carrier in Israel

[20:06] <Kathy-VHL> Yes thank you Stan

[20:06] <called_out-VHL> 10yes we do appreciate you both so much :)

[20:06] <VCI-Stan> i guess this is one of those days when we really want an answer to the "how are you" question huh? :)

[20:06] <eden-VHL> thank you Stan

[20:06] <skip-VHL> 4TWO Crowns:-)

[20:06] <Barbara-VHL> 3Right!!

[20:06] <blessed-VHL> blessings to u

[20:06] <VCI-Bob> The events in Ramallah today took the situation to a different level

[20:06] <Kathy-VHL> yes stan we really do

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[20:06] <called_out-VHL> 10right!!!

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[20:06] <VCI-Stan> as always, the pelasure, and blessing is mine

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[20:07] <dovecry-VHL> Yep!:-O

[20:07] <Jan-VHL> Do you think the events will lead to an all out civil war?

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Did any of you see the video of it on the news?

[20:07] <eden-VHL> yes

[20:07] <proverbs31heart-VHL> Hello! I don't know if I'm in the right place or not! I'm looking for Georgia's pastor's wives group. Is anyone from that group here?

[20:07] <Barbara-VHL> 3some of it, yes...

[20:07] <Bezalel-VHL> 2A number of times, Bob.

[20:07] <called_out-VHL> 10yes, it was terrifying and heartbreaking.

[20:07] <kmmullins> yes

[20:07] <Barbara-VHL> 3grisley

[20:07] <VCI-Bob> Horrible

[20:08] <VCI-Stan> I guess the answer would be a bit different depending on the level - physically, I am (mostly) in good shape, as is my family

[20:08] <kmmullins> but she had to go

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> and they abused the corpses after the men were dead

[20:08] <Barbara-VHL> 3Georgia just left the room.

[20:08] <eden-VHL> yes, prov 31, its finished it was on first

[20:08] <Jan-VHL> OH LORD!!!!

[20:08] <called_out-VHL> 10yes

[20:08] <VCI-Stan> emotionally I feel somewhat sick to the stomach

[20:08] <proverbs31heart-VHL> Oh, no! I missed it!

[20:08] <called_out-VHL> 10I can understand that Stan

[20:08] <blessed-VHL> youre in our prayers,Stan

[20:08] <VCI-Bob> Barak ordered harsh response...

[20:08] <Jan-VHL> stan are you in a safe area?

[20:08] <skip-VHL> 4me too Stan

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[20:08] <VCI-Stan> spiritually I feel rather relieved that this boil is finally being lanced

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> helicopter gunships fired rockets at .....

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[20:09] <kmmullins> they did what

[20:09] <proverbs31heart-VHL> I'm sorry for interupting! Forgive me. God bless each and everyone of you.

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> Arafat's HQ in Gaza and Ramallah, or portions of it

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> and the police station where it happened

[20:09] <Barbara-VHL> 3stay, 31, if you wish...:o

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> and the TV radio/station

[20:09] <VCI-Bob> also......

[20:09] <kmmullins> no need for forgivness

[20:10] <dovecry-VHL> but God is with you Stan.!

[20:10] <VCI-Bob> Arafat release hundreds of Hamas and Islamic Jihad prisoners

[20:10] <skip-VHL> 4yes it a comfort to know G-D is at work and control

[20:10] <proverbs31heart-VHL> Thank you for your kindness. It's my first time here.

[20:10] <Barbara-VHL> 3shaol

[20:10] <skip-VHL> 4IN

[20:10] <VCI-Stan> oh yes, He most certainly is

[20:10] <Barbara-VHL> 3shalom, yiayia

[20:10] <dovecry-VHL> Bob are you there too?

[20:10] <blessed-VHL> He is in control!

[20:10] <VCI-Stan> we are not in a dangerous area at this time

[20:10] <VCI-Bob> No, I'm back in Florida now

[20:10] <yiayia-VHL> shalom y'all.....good to see you Barbara and Toria, and Bez!!! :)

[20:10] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Stan, I also saw that the IAF took out the Palestinian Radio transmitter in Ramallah...

[20:10] <farrell-VHL415> 2Did any of you see Arafat's interview today?

[20:10] <skip-VHL> 4PTL

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Wish I was still there

[20:11] <kmmullins> no

[20:11] <Barbara-VHL> 3I know, Bob...:o

[20:11] <Toria-VHL> 5I will be there in a few week.

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[20:11] <yiayia-VHL> Yes Bob! :)

[20:11] <called_out-VHL> 10`no farrell, didn't see the interview

[20:11] <VCI-Bob> I'm going back soon, the Lord willing

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[20:11] <VCI-Bob> Tell us, Farrell

[20:11] <farrell-VHL415> 2He said "My people don't care, they won't hesitate to continue their march on to Jerusalem, the capital of their independent Palestinian state."

[20:11] <VCI-Stan> Bezalel - yes, from early on in the day Israel was ascribing the mob violence agains t the israelis to the propaganda and incitement to violence that has been beamed from the PLO's transmitters these past two weeks

[20:12] <blessed-VHL> geez

[20:12] <VCI-Stan> farrell - is that a direct quote?

[20:12] <farrell-VHL415> 2almost :)

[20:12] <VCI-Bob> yes, it is, Stan, I heard it

[20:12] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom All

[20:12] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Jerry!

[20:12] <blessed-VHL> hi jerry

[20:12] <blessed-VHL> welcome

[20:12] <Toria-VHL> 5that is probably the most honest statement he has ever made.

[20:12] <Barbara-VHL> 3shal;om, Jerry

[20:12] <VCI-Stan> SHalom Jerry

[20:12] <skip-VHL> 4seems like the USA better stick with Israel cause we do have many who will stick with us

[20:12] <dovecry-VHL> Hi Bez..

[20:13] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Dove :-)

[20:13] <VCI-Stan> toria - you're right

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> Arafat will not succeed, of course

[20:13] <eden-VHL> Well at least the gloves are off now

[20:13] <dovecry-VHL> :->

[20:13] <VCI-Bob> God has other things planned

[20:13] <Barbara-VHL> 3oh, hi dove

[20:13] <blessed-VHL> amen Bob

[20:13] <blessed-VHL> amen!!!!!!!

[20:13] <blessed-VHL> He has this situation all under His hand

[20:13] <VCI-Stan> by the way, my family and I also wish Bob and his dear Bo were back with us

[20:13] <kmmullins> God bless each of you you will be in prays ana

[20:13] <Toria-VHL> 5o matter what it looks like God has his hand on the situation. This was not a surprise to Him

[20:13] <yiayia-VHL> Was busy watching MSNBC for their recoup of the day. Made me sick to see videos in Ramallah.

[20:14] <VCI-Bob> :) Thanks, Stan :)

[20:14] <blessed-VHL> nope

[20:14] <farrell-VHL415> 2Stan, how would you like to have all of us there? :)

[20:14] <skip-VHL> 4cause its plain to see that the muslims are against us too

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[20:14] <VCI-Stan> it was a very special blessing to have them in Jerusalem these past weeks

[20:14] <Barbara-VHL> 3move over, Yanny....:o

[20:14] <VCI-Stan> farrell - you hop right on over

[20:14] <VCI-Bob> It was a wonderful time - Stan's a great guy, folks :)

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[20:14] <farrell-VHL415> 2wouldn't I love it!!

[20:14] <dovecry-VHL> What does God's word say? "The Joy of the Lord is my Strength" we need to hold on to that, don't you think?

[20:14] <VCI-Stan> i thyink the timing for Bob was amazing

[20:14] <blessed-VHL> amen dove

[20:15] <VCI-Bob> yes, that's right, Dovecry

[20:15] <Barbara-VHL> 3amen, Dove

[20:15] <VCI-Stan> he made his reservation a long time before things started cooking here

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[20:15] <VCI-Bob> yes, Stan, I know it was providential

[20:15] <farrell-VHL415> 2Stan, that's the kind of God we have. Perfect timing!

[20:15] <eden-VHL> The Lord's timing Stan:-)

[20:15] <Toria-VHL> 5Stan, there should be thousands of christians there from all over the world right now for the Feast of tabernacles. Is that still on?

[20:15] <blessed-VHL> I have to go... G_d bless everyone :)

[20:15] <VCI-Stan> dovecry, i encouraged my wife with those same words this evening

[20:15] <Barbara-VHL> 3nite, blessed

[20:15] <blessed-VHL> Stan youre in my prayers....as always

[20:16] <VCI-Bob> Bless you, blessed

[20:16] <dovecry-VHL> there is so much going on, I pray for the Children of Israel, and the Peace for God's people

[20:16] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Blessed

[20:16] <blessed-VHL> PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM:)

[20:16] <blessed-VHL> AMEN!

[20:16] <VCI-Stan> toria- yes, around 4000 Believers have come into the land over the past few days

[20:16] <blessed-VHL> HAVE A BLESSED NIGHT EVERYONE

[20:16] <Jerry-VHL> Amen

[20:16] <skip-VHL> 4Stan you will let us know if you see the TWO PROPHETS IN JERUSALEM

[20:16] <Barbara-VHL> 3amen!!

[20:16] <blessed-VHL> :)

[20:16] <VCI-Stan> in fact, their arrival was a great testimony to Israelis already

[20:16] <farrell-VHL415> 2Shalom blessed:)

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[20:16] <Toria-VHL> 5Our group is coming on the 28th. I wish is was tomorrow.

[20:16] <VCI-Stan> the Jerusalem Post reported this morning that Jewish tourists were cancelling their tours

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[20:17] <VCI-Stan> but the Christians were virtually all coming in

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> The US has issued travellers warnings now

[20:17] <eden-VHL> Here come the Lord's troops

[20:17] <Toria-VHL> 5Praise the God of Israel What a witness!

[20:17] <skip-VHL> 4amen toria

[20:17] <VCI-Stan> skip - at the risk of stealing Bob's line - two witnesses were here all last week

[20:17] <VCI-Stan> one's back in FLA now

[20:17] <Kathy-VHL> lol

[20:17] <skip-VHL> 4:-)

[20:17] <VCI-Bob> :)

[20:18] <farrell-VHL415> 2Are you going soon Toria?

[20:18] <Jerry-VHL> Stan - I believe it!

[20:18] <dovecry-VHL> I also think to hold on to those words from the Lord

[20:18] <Toria-VHL> 5BOB do you know that for a fact?

[20:18] <VCI-Stan> tonight these thousands will be down in the dead sea valley

[20:18] <skip-VHL> 4I was wondering that

[20:18] <VCI-Stan> at the qumran caves

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> Here's what came to mind when I first saw the Western Wall....

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[20:18] <VCI-Stan> watching the huge harvest moon rise over the mountains of moab

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> But you, O LORD, sit enthroned forever; your renown endures through all generations. (Psalms 102:12 NIV)

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> You will arise and have compassion on Zion, for it is time to show favor to her; the appointed time has come. (Psalms 102:13 NIV)

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[20:18] <Toria-VHL> 5Yes our church is doing their first trip. 15 are going , it will be my 9th trip.

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> For her stones are dear to your servants; her very dust moves them to pity. (Psalms 102:14 NIV)

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> The nations will fear the name of the LORD, all the kings of the earth will revere your glory. (Psalms 102:15 NIV)

[20:18] <VCI-Bob> For the LORD will rebuild Zion and appear in his glory. (Psalms 102:16 NIV)

[20:18] <grizz-VHL> shalom my brothers and sisters in CHRIST

[20:19] <VCI-Stan> and welcoming in the Feast of Tabernacles with praise, worship, in music and dance

[20:19] <RAPTUREBOUND1> hi

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Grizz and Rapture!

[20:19] <skip-VHL> 4hi grizz

[20:19] <Barbara-VHL> 3evening, grizz

[20:19] <RAPTUREBOUND1> this is liz

[20:19] <VCI-Stan> hallelujah - the time to favor ZIon

[20:19] <Barbara-VHL> 3hi rapture

[20:19] <Jerry-VHL> I heard they destroyed a Synagogue in Jericho. Is that true!

[20:19] <VCI-Stan> shalom rapture

[20:19] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Jerry

[20:19] <farrell-VHL415> 2Hi grizz:)

[20:19] <VCI-Stan> yes Jerry

[20:19] <Barbara-VHL> 3and it's about time...

[20:19] <Toria-VHL> 5Bob please tell me where you heard of the travel advisory.

[20:19] <yiayia-VHL> Oh Bob, the power in those verses.....Yes, I understand! :)

[20:19] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Rapturebound, can I shorten you name to rap??

[20:20] <grizz-VHL> hi guys lots of doings in IRESAL HUH

[20:20] <VCI-Stan> Franny (my wife and I were in a taxi on the way out to celebrate our wedding anniversary this evening :)

[20:20] <RAPTUREBOUND1> hey i am liz i am using my webtv

[20:20] <VCI-Stan> when the news came about the synagogue in Jericho

[20:20] <VCI-Stan> our taxi driver exploded in rage

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[20:20] <Jerry-VHL> Are they desecrating the holy sites on purpose do you think?

[20:20] <skip-VHL> 4happy annaversary

[20:20] <VCI-Stan> i thought he was going to wrench the steering wheel out of its column

[20:20] <VCI-Stan> no question about that Jerry

[20:21] <VCI-Stan> skip :)

[20:21] <Barbara-VHL> 3Happy anniversary!! :o

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[20:21] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Stan Happy Anniversary My husband Papa Don and I celebrated our 37th yesterday

[20:21] <RAPTUREBOUND1> stan whats the latest

[20:21] <VCI-Bob> They said in their hearts, "We will crush them completely!" They burned every place where God was worshiped in the land. (Psalms 74:8 NIV)

[20:21] <VCI-Stan> thanks all

[20:21] <Jerry-VHL> There was a protest at the UN. I wish I could have gone. Iam about 3 hrs away. I wonder if they will have it again?

[20:22] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Bob do you think this is the beginning of Ezekiel 38

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[20:22] <skip-VHL> 4ahappy anns. mama

[20:22] <Geneva-VHL> Hi everyone

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> No, mama, not that scenario, but I do think it is fulfilling other prophecies

[20:22] <Jerry-VHL> Bob - Does Joel 3:1 apply here?

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[20:22] <VCI-Stan> rapturebound - lates is that ehud barak has asked sharon ro join him in a national emergency government

[20:22] <VCI-Stan> sorry - missing the keys

[20:22] <VCI-Bob> Jerry, it's the beginning of that process....

[20:22] <Geneva-VHL> What is going on tonight

[20:23] <RAPTUREBOUND1> okay what does that mean for peace?

[20:23] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Peace, Liz?

[20:23] <Barbara-VHL> 3Hi Geneva

[20:23] <grizz-VHL> OH MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ISREAL IM SO SORRY TO HERE THIS, I PRAY OUR LORD WILL KEEP YOU SAFE WITH YOUR LOVED ONES.

[20:23] <RAPTUREBOUND1> barak on cnn wants peace???

[20:23] <VCI-Stan> Joel 3:1

[20:23] <VCI-Stan> 1"For behold, in those days and at that time, when I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem,

[20:23] <dovecry-VHL> Hear, O Israel; The LORD our God is one LORD... O Soverign Lord protect and be gracious to Your people Israel, I pray, in the name of Jesus of Nazareth, Amen.

[20:23] <VCI-Stan> (NKJ)

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[20:23] <VCI-Bob> at the risk of being presumptious - I sense that on Rosh Hashanah, orders were issued in the throne room of the Lord - to enter a different phase of history

[20:23] <Geneva-VHL> never mind missing the keys we can read just tell us the news

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[20:24] <Jerry-VHL> Amen Dovecry

[20:24] <VCI-Stan> sharon in the emergency government means that israel is going to get a lot tougher with Arafat

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[20:24] <Kathy-VHL> good

[20:24] <Barbara-VHL> 3good!!

[20:24] <yiayia-VHL> Stan....since Sharon is being pulled in, will Bibi also follow???

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[20:24] <Jerry-VHL> Is this like marshall law in the Palestinia territories or is it for all Israel?

[20:25] <farrell-VHL650> 2That was one of my questions for tonight Stan. What does the "emergency government" do?

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[20:25] <VCI-Stan> he's presence will slow down the "peace" train considereably

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[20:25] <VCI-Bob> They will probably make him Minister of Defense, right?

[20:25] <VCI-Stan> yiayia - i'm not sure what will happen with Bibi just now - last night (three hours ago) speculation was that barak would choose either sharon OR bibi

[20:25] <VCI-Bob> Bibi Netanyahu is still on the sidelines at this point

[20:26] <Jerry-VHL> Bibi was on the 700 club I heard and was quite inspirational

[20:26] <eden-VHL> Psa 125:2 As the mountains are round Jerusalem, so the Word is round about His people from henceforth even for ever

[20:26] <VCI-Bob> oh, Jerry?

[20:26] <Toria-VHL> 5amen

[20:26] <VCI-Stan> Bob - I'd like that - to have him as minister of defense, but i'm not sure he'll get that ortfolio

[20:26] <grizz-VHL> ih guys i hope ISREAL kicks his you know what all over the middlwe east

[20:26] <Geneva-VHL> arafat will not give an inch and will not call for a cease fire

[20:26] <yiayia-VHL> When was that Jerry????

[20:26] <VCI-Stan> maybe foreign minister

[20:26] <skip-VHL> 4even for ever ,a comfort

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[20:27] <Jerry-VHL> Last night I heard ; Idid not see it. I only heard

[20:27] <VCI-Stan> BBC is saying that barak opted for sharon becuase he feels so beleagured right now

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[20:27] <Barbara-VHL> 3hi Vern

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[20:27] <VCI-Bob> Yes, I can imagine

[20:27] <Barbara-VHL> 3lonny, gloria

[20:27] <skip-VHL> 4Sharon ought to enflame the arabs more

[20:27] <Vern-VHL> 12Hi Barbara--just listening

[20:28] <VCI-Stan> sharon on board will mean that some of the extreme left wingers will take a hike

[20:28] <VCI-Stan> which is good :)

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> From the J Post at 8:05 Jerusalem time: There are unconfirmed reports from the US State Department that Iraq has begun to move military forces to the west. CNN says that the Hammurabi Brigade, under the control of the Republican Guard, was moved.

[20:28] <VCI-Bob> During the Gulf war crisis in 1991, Israel made it clear to the Iraqi government that any troop movement westward toward Jordan and Israel would be considered tantamount to an act of war.

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[20:28] <VCI-Stan> shalom vern, lonnie, gloria

[20:28] <Jerry-VHL> shalom all newbies

[20:28] <called_out-VHL> 10I am sure you all heard about the terrorist attack on american ship.. Do you think this is connected to other middle east crisis?

[20:28] <VCI-Stan> yes Bob - I wondered if Saddam would start to move now

[20:29] <Geneva-VHL> I heard that Iraq was moving trroops westward

[20:29] <VCI-Stan> we're not ready for him, you know

[20:29] <eden-VHL> its a good way to bring the US in dont you think called out?

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> not ready?

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[20:29] <Vern-VHL> 12Shalom All, Stan, Bob

[20:29] <VCI-Bob> Hi Vern!

[20:29] <Bezalel-VHL> 2CNN had report about Yemen's support of Iraq....

[20:29] <Gloria-VHL> Shalom all

[20:29] <VCI-Stan> unlike in previous times, there's been no push to but plastic sheeting etc for security rooms

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[20:29] <called_out-VHL> 10Yes, eden, us won't put up with much of that!!

[20:30] <Barbara-VHL> 3hi clemma

[20:30] <VCI-Stan> the civilian population has not been out emptyinbg the shop shelves of gas warfare supplies is what i mean

[20:30] <clemma-VHL> shalom all

[20:30] <Jerry-VHL> Funny when the US gets hit, they act. When Israel get hit we tell them to sit back.

[20:30] <Vern-VHL> 12What's the next Jewish holiday coming up?

[20:30] <Lonnie-VHL> Hello everyone new to chat i live in united states , I wanted see what was going on in israel ! sounds like we need to make our hearts pure and start looking up!

[20:30] <called_out-VHL> 10Seems like the whole world is at war sometimes.

[20:30] <VCI-Stan> i imagine there'll be a rush later today (Friday) - before the shabbat

[20:30] <VCI-Bob> Stan, that report from the JPost seems to indicate that Israel would be extremely pre-emptive in the event of ANY provocative moves by Iraq

[20:30] <VCI-Stan> Shalom lonnie

[20:30] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Stan do you think Arafat and the Palestinians will physically march on Jerusalem

[20:30] <Barbara-VHL> 3amen, lonnie

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[20:31] <VCI-Stan> good Bob - that's good to know - let Israel solve the saddam problem for everybody huh?

[20:31] <skip-VHL> 4i think the attack against the Navy was directly related to Israels troubles

[20:31] <VCI-Bob> :) Yeah, Stan :)

[20:31] <Toria-VHL> 5amen would not take them long to solve it.

[20:31] <VCI-Stan> mamapenny - I'm expecting the march to maybe begin on the settlements first

[20:31] <eden-VHL> :-)

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[20:31] <VCI-Stan> it's been over 48 hours since some of arafat's top people called on the palestinians to target the settlements

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[20:32] <called_out-VHL> 10I agree Skip. It seems to all be falling in place.

[20:32] <Toria-VHL> 5Stan, on Ted Coppel the oter night the Isralie leaders said they were talking of dividing up jerusalem . Can you explain what that would mean?

[20:32] <VCI-Bob> Skip, it was probably the work of Bid Laden - the ship attack

[20:32] <Geneva-VHL> seems all the world is against Israel. Just like the word says will happen in the last days

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[20:33] <Barbara-VHL> 3hi cyccie

[20:33] <called_out-VHL> 10That is the consensus Bob

[20:33] <skip-VHL> 4who is muslim huh Bob

[20:33] <VCI-Stan> Geneva - oh yes, and as they said yesterday, every peacekeeper in the world has jetted into the middle east to try and help ease these tensions

[20:33] <VCI-Stan> b ease these tensions they mean get isael to back down

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> Toria, Israel has been too willing to concede the places important to the Lord - Joseph's tomb, the Temple Mount, etc

[20:33] <Vern-VHL> 12What time is it in Jerusalem?

[20:33] <VCI-Bob> God is not going to let that continue

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Skip

[20:34] <Toria-VHL> 5I realize this, does this mean go back to the green line before 67?

[20:34] <VCI-Stan> amazing thing - CNN was going on about israel's attack helicopters in action as being the exacting of an eye for an eye

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> Yes, that's how CBS presented it also, Stan

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[20:34] <VCI-Stan> and to see missile after missile slamming into ramallah and gaza one would have thought that cnn was right

[20:34] <VCI-Bob> Toria, that's what the PLO wants, but it's not going to happen

[20:35] <skip-VHL> 4seems like USA has as many enmies as Israel

[20:35] <VCI-Stan> but have you noted that not a single arab fatality has been reported from any of those attacks?

[20:35] <VCI-Stan> the strikes were pinpoint

[20:35] <VCI-Stan> astounding accuracy

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> Right, the IDF gave them 3 hours to evacuate also

[20:35] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I was wondering about that Stan....

[20:35] <VCI-Bob> advance notice

[20:35] <VCI-Stan> and israel telephoned the palestinians first to warn them to get out of the way

[20:35] <eden-VHL> Israel should show force

[20:35] <Toria-VHL> 5no one told us that stan.

[20:35] <Geneva-VHL> God will fight for israel with the sword of the word.

[20:35] <Barbara-VHL> 3Arafat was seen visiting a child in the hospital...supossedly victim of the missles...?

[20:35] <skip-VHL> 4very noble

[20:36] <VCI-Stan> 36 injured was the latest i heard

[20:36] <VCI-Stan> no dead

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[20:36] <VCI-Stan> but for the three murdered israelis

[20:36] <VCI-Stan> talk about restraint

[20:36] <VCI-Bob> it was a horrible thing - horrible

[20:36] <Toria-VHL> 5Are you able to get out of your neighborhood during the day or are you confined somewhat?

[20:36] <skip-VHL> 4of Israel to warn tem

[20:36] <Geneva-VHL> They are blaming the us for suppling Israel with the helicopters

[20:37] <mamapenny-VHL> 13since the Palestinians burned a Synagoge in the West Bank do you think Israel will retaliate by burning the Dome of the Rock

[20:37] <VCI-Stan> yes, a few minutes after the first reports about the murders came in i was walking down to the post office

[20:37] <VCI-Bob> Mama, that's not likely....

[20:37] <dovecry-VHL> WoW! what happened? I guess I got bumped off, "Ouch":-)

[20:37] <Toria-VHL> 5oh my God, I hope not mama

[20:37] <grizz-VHL> STAN was the cameljockey anywhere the missel attacks

[20:37] <VCI-Stan> it was like an electric current was sweeping through the streets

[20:37] <Geneva-VHL> They should

[20:37] <VCI-Stan> everyone was on their cell phones

[20:37] <VCI-Bob> however, it will be destroyed somehow

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[20:38] <liz-VHL> that was weird

[20:38] <VCI-Stan> car radios were blaring

[20:38] <VCI-Bob> what happened today will escalate it to a new level, right Stan?

[20:38] <VCI-Stan> white faces staring out of bus windows

[20:38] <eden-VHL> Saddam could miss and knock it out?

[20:38] <VCI-Stan> grizz, sorry, cameljockey?

[20:38] <liz-VHL> i saw that video one too many times ...I am apalled and heartbroken

[20:39] <VCI-Stan> Bob - yes, it has absolutely

[20:39] <grizz-VHL> arafat

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[20:39] <liz-VHL> is this chat working

[20:39] <VCI-Stan> Nachman Shai, Israel's military spokesman, said tonight that arafat will have to take the blame today "for igniting the whole middle east"

[20:39] <Lonnie-VHL> does anyone think there wil ever be peace in israel?7

[20:39] <VCI-Stan> liz -w roking just fine

[20:39] <VCI-Bob> Could be, Eden, but something I read the other day about the Dome of the Rock and Al Asqa made me think.... turns out that in the past, the Arabs stored explosives there, oblivious to the risk of doing that

[20:39] <liz-VHL> okay

[20:39] <VCI-Stan> yes lonnie - Messiah will bring peace

[20:40] <liz-VHL> i had a delay getting in

[20:40] <skip-VHL> 4looks like the palistinians thrive on violence, such hatred

[20:40] <Toria-VHL> 5Stan, is this more intence than any other time? There is always amjor happenings there and when I get there I have peace and nothing has ever been visible to our groups.

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[20:40] <VCI-Bob> This time is different, Toria

[20:40] <VCI-Stan> Toria - no question, the most intense time in Israel since the Gulf War, possibly since Yom Kippur

[20:40] <VCI-Bob> Glad you made it, Liz

[20:40] <liz-VHL> so have you already talked about what this is leading into

[20:40] <liz-VHL> thanks bob

[20:40] <VCI-Stan> Israelis who were here in 1973 compare it to Yom Kippur

[20:40] <dovecry-VHL> Stan, just how close are you to all this fighting? Are you close enough to hear it all?

[20:41] <dovecry-VHL> forgive me if I didn't say that right.

[20:41] <VCI-Stan> dovecry, over the past week my wife has heard gunfire once or twice from our bedroom window - but quite far away

[20:41] <Toria-VHL> 5Stan, what are your needs right now. How can we pray for you. I know the obvious, but is there something we can do for you and your family?

[20:42] <clemma-VHL> Stan, has anyone reported on the disposition of the third Israeli soldier?

[20:42] <liz-VHL> sstan a story was going around here about the soldiers as they were killing one that they grabbed his cell phone and called his wife to tell her they wwere killing him..is this true

[20:42] <skip-VHL> 4you do have gas masks and gear ?

[20:42] <VCI-Stan> ramallah itself - scene of todays main warfare - is to the far north of the city - our home is near the far south

[20:42] <skip-VHL> 4STAN

[20:42] <Lonnie-VHL> 7Amen Stan !8but there will be a fake peace brought by the antichrist , Do you think he could rise up soon and bring an end to this?

[20:42] <Jerry-VHL> I thought there were four soldiers???

[20:42] <VCI-Stan> lonnie sorry, please change the color, can't read that yellow

[20:42] <VCI-Stan> :)

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[20:43] <Lonnie-VHL> 8sorry Stan4

[20:43] <called_out-VHL> 10Peppermint are you Pat?

[20:43] <VCI-Stan> Toria - personally speaking, more than anything else I want the Lord's peace to reign in my home, in the hearts of myself, my wife and our children

[20:43] <Lonnie-VHL> 4Sorry again ! rookie

[20:43] <peppermint-VHL> Patti

[20:43] <liz-VHL> aamen stan

[20:43] <VCI-Stan> liz - never heard that about the cellphone

[20:43] <called_out-VHL> 10Patti from Ohio?

[20:43] <dovecry-VHL> Yes, i will keep you and wife, and baby in my prayers Stan

[20:43] <liz-VHL> okay it was reported on our fox news

[20:44] <liz-VHL> i never heard it though

[20:44] <Jerry-VHL> I too, Stan

[20:44] <peppermint-VHL> Tennessee, sorry

[20:44] <Toria-VHL> 5WE will all agree on that and for that peace to minister to all those there. Especially your home.

[20:44] <Kathy-VHL> I would like to know what Prophecy says about our part in all this other than to pray

[20:44] <called_out-VHL> 10wrong peppermint patty

[20:44] <liz-VHL> so whats the atmosphere noww

[20:44] <eden-VHL> amen toria

[20:44] <Lonnie-VHL> 4Stan where are you located?

[20:44] <Vern-VHL> 12What about VHL's net Cam on the Wailing Wall - is there problem with it?

[20:44] <called_out-VHL> 10:)

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[20:44] <VCI-Stan> skip - my wife and I have gas masks from earlier scares - our kids have not got their equipment, and won't until the IDF reckons it's time

[20:44] <Barbara-VHL> 3That would be the greatest gift right now, Stan....May it be yours...

[20:44] <Geneva-VHL> I just got kicked off

[20:44] <Kathy-VHL> What is Gods plan for using us in this time

[20:45] <called_out-VHL> 10put your seatbelt on Geneva :)

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> Good question Kathy...

[20:45] <VCI-Stan> Geneva - it happens :)

[20:45] <liz-VHL> i have been glued to tv and puter all day and been in prayer

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> anyone want to take a shot at Kathy's question?

[20:45] <skip-VHL> 4do you have to wait till the GOV. gives them to you Stan?

[20:45] <VCI-Stan> yes -= prophecy, bob's domain :)

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> :) Not mine, the Lord's :)

[20:45] <peppermint-VHL> I think we are called to evangelize

[20:45] <eden-VHL> yes, the more prayer cover, the more warrior angels

[20:45] <Kathy-VHL> I can speculate on a lot of things I would like to do but what is God's plan so that we are in His Will

[20:45] <Jerry-VHL> I had an idea today! What if all Christian everywhere wore the Jewish Star on thier sleeves to show our support for Israel???

[20:45] <VCI-Stan> i am only going to be on until the top of the hour tonight

[20:45] <VCI-Bob> I'm just along for the ride :)

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[20:45] <liz-VHL> ooh i like that Jerry

[20:46] <Toria-VHL> 5It blesses me that over 4000 chriatian's are there and did not cancel out. This surly will help provoke the Jew to jealousy. maybe there will be a harvest from this.

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> interesting idea, Jerry!

[20:46] <peppermint-VHL> I LOVE the star idea!

[20:46] <VCI-Stan> lonnie - my home is is a neighborhood called abu tor, across the hinnom valley from the old city

[20:46] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Everyone...Stan, Bob....I will catch up with where you all are I hope...

[20:46] <dovecry-VHL> Bezalel; Hi! again:-)

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> Hi Karen!

[20:46] <dovecry-VHL> your quiet?

[20:46] <Karen-VHL> Ok, I can'

[20:46] <skip-VHL> 4I wear a star of David already

[20:46] <Barbara-VHL> 3I do too, Jerry

[20:46] <liz-VHL> i need to get one

[20:46] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Karen, Tell everyone about Bibi on 700 club

[20:46] <Karen-VHL> Ok, I can't catch up....I don't have a full screen...what about a star?

[20:46] <peppermint-VHL> I have a star with a cross in the middle

[20:46] <liz-VHL> do what

[20:46] <VCI-Bob> yes, tell us

[20:47] <VCI-Stan> Shalom Karen

[20:47] <Jerry-VHL> They would probably be easy to make.

[20:47] <liz-VHL> yes tell us karen

[20:47] <Jerry-VHL> I like that too Pepermint

[20:47] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Just listening Dove, and praying.

[20:47] <Karen-VHL> Hi Bob!...so glad to see you have returned safely...

[20:47] <Barbara-VHL> 3I wear one around my neck...centered with a cross...

[20:47] <skip-VHL> 4I wear a csoss also

[20:47] <peppermint-VHL> you could use blue and silver

[20:47] <dovecry-VHL> "Praise The Lord"

[20:47] <VCI-Bob> thanks Karen - though I would rather have not returned :)

[20:47] <Toria-VHL> 5We can probably get on 700 club web site and rerun the program. i did that today with one or their programs.

[20:47] <Barbara-VHL> 3peppermint, :o

[20:47] <VCI-Stan> nu Karen - what did Bibi tell Pat?

[20:47] <liz-VHL> what did he say

[20:47] <Karen-VHL> BiBi was interviewed by a reporter from the 700 Club...he was absolutely awesome...

[20:48] <VCI-Stan> Karen - was the reporter Chris Mitchell?

[20:48] <peppermint-VHL> yes?

[20:48] <Karen-VHL> Bob...I understand....

[20:48] <Karen-VHL> Stan, I just caught the very last part of the interview but it was so powerful Bibi radiated....that is an understatement...

[20:49] <Karen-VHL> I was hoping someone else saw the full interview...

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[20:49] <VCI-Bob> Kathy, in response to your question, I think that praying is the biggest thing, and also informing our Christian brothers and sisters, many of whom our woefully ill-informed, and ignorant of the Scriptures regarding these events

[20:49] <Toria-VHL> 5look it up on their web page.

[20:49] <Jerry-VHL> Good idea Toria

[20:49] <peppermint-VHL> I'm thinking of hosting a Left Behind party

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[20:49] <liz-VHL> they usually replay it late

[20:49] <called_out-VHL> 10Our whole church prayed for Israel last night at prayer meeting

[20:49] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Annie

[20:50] <Kathy-VHL> The Scrioptures do not mention us speciffically in this tine do they Bob

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> Great, called_out!!!

[20:50] <Karen-VHL> Bibi was so level headed and more or less expressed his position...He again had such a strength coming through him...

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[20:50] <VCI-Bob> us, Kathy? meaning Christians?

[20:50] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Annie

[20:50] <VCI-Stan> that's good news called_out,

[20:50] <called_out-VHL> 10and put The pease and protection of Israel on our permanant prayer list

[20:50] <Kathy-VHL> yes

[20:50] <Karen-VHL> ok, I just woke up from a nap and am missing these great idea's ...what's goiing on?

[20:50] <Annie-VHL> Shalom all had quite a time getting in

[20:50] <VCI-Bob> yes, they do mention us...

[20:50] <liz-VHL> me too annie it said ddue to high demand

[20:50] <dovecry-VHL> Ha, Ha, Ha, but I don't want to be left behind; peppermint..

[20:50] <Kathy-VHL> I mean about during this time

[20:51] <called_out-VHL> 10We are very much aware of what God is doing during this time.

[20:51] <Toria-VHL> 5Stan is the Old City open to the public as usual?

[20:51] <dovecry-VHL> :-)

[20:51] <liz-VHL> is tomorrow day of rage 2 stan

[20:51] <Jerry-VHL> Karen, we thought about getting Christian to wear a star on thier arms

[20:51] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...what are the idea's I saw mentioned?

[20:51] <peppermint-VHL> I don't intend to be left behind, either

[20:51] <called_out-VHL> 10I dread to think about what will happen tomorrow

[20:51] <Karen-VHL> Whoa...yes, that would be good.Today I was trying to figure out how I could attach the flag of Israel to my car...

[20:51] <liz-VHL> 5whats arafat saying hes been awful qquiet

[20:52] <dovecry-VHL> 'whew"

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> Kathy, one of Stan's favorites mentions us, as the "watchmen" : I have posted watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem; they will never be silent day or night. You who call on the LORD, give yourselves no rest, (Isaiah 62:6 NIV)

[20:52] <VCI-Bob> and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem and makes her the praise of the earth. (Isaiah 62:7 NIV)

[20:52] <Annie-VHL> I have been telling everyone I know to pray hard for the peace of Israel

[20:52] <Jerry-VHL> Boy that would be awesome if the Christians who are their for the feast wore the armbands.

[20:52] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...you mean a cloth star like the Jews wore right?

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[20:52] <Kathy-VHL> thanks Bob that is what I was trying to identify

[20:52] <VCI-Stan> liz - yes it is, can't believe it was a week ago that Bob and I were looking over at the Temple MOunt waiting for it to explode

[20:53] <Jerry-VHL> Yes Karen

[20:53] <skip-VHL> 4wow Stan

[20:53] <Karen-VHL> Bob, I loved your newest article and the link to the article: War on the Horizon..I thought the article was excellent...

[20:53] <liz-VHL> 56do they expect it to be bad

[20:53] <peppermint-VHL> Has anyone heard about the annointing of the new Temple cornerstone?

[20:53] <Toria-VHL> 5No telling what God will lead the Christian Embassy to do for Israel during this time. They will for sure be 4000 there to stand in the gap. A few more than Gideon times

[20:53] <Jerry-VHL> But I wonder would it be a sore spot for Jews to see it again.

[20:53] <Kathy-VHL> Bob that is something we need to focus on watching

[20:53] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...ok, are you going to do the sewing? You have a better needle I than eye...let's get busy..let's get this done a.s.a.p...

[20:53] <VCI-Stan> liz - I'm not sure what will happen - I imagine the number of arabs permitted onto the temple mount will be severly limited

[20:54] <Kathy-VHL> we need to do a study on that

[20:54] <liz-VHL> 6stan whats arafat saying

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> Karen, the Lord keeps revealing more things to us about the days ahead

[20:54] <VCI-Bob> from the Scriptures

[20:54] <dovecry-VHL> We are in the Last Days, I believe this with all that I am... I keep telling all my neighbors and friends; this is the time to trust in the LORD, more than anything

[20:54] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...It could be for some but I think the majority would feel loved and honored by the support...

[20:54] <liz-VHL> 6hes been too quiet all i heard is he said this wont affect his march to Jerusalem

[20:54] <VCI-Stan> arafat's not saying too much, he's got his face buried in his wounded "countrymen's" chests

[20:55] <VCI-Stan> i imagine arafat got quite a fright today

[20:55] <Toria-VHL> 5The temple stone was anointed by the temple Mount Faithful, Gershon Solomon several years ago. I saw it when I was there before the gulf war.

[20:55] <skip-VHL> 4:-)

[20:55] <Jerry-VHL> If God wills it to come to pass - It will

[20:55] <Karen-VHL> Did anyone get the lowdown on the Jewish March to the United Nations in N.Y.C. today?

[20:55] <Kathy-VHL> he is trying to get synpathy from the other arav countries

[20:55] <dovecry-VHL> We Must tell everyone and continue to pray for the lost

[20:55] <Karen-VHL> Bob....This is terriable but if I should get to Israel , I can

[20:55] <VCI-Bob> I heard about it, Karen - a large pro-Israel gathering

[20:55] <eden-VHL> Re: the way everything has blown up so quickly, read, Mal 3:1

[20:55] <peppermint-VHL> I just read something about it is going to take place with a parade in the streets.

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[20:56] <Karen-VHL> Bob, I can't leave..I will have to go hang out with the camels..but I can't leave...It must have been heart wrenching for you to leave...how is your wife?

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[20:56] <VCI-Bob> she's fine :)

[20:56] <VCI-Bob> she enjoyed her camel ride :)

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[20:56] <Jerry-VHL> Was this March a planned march or just something that came together without planning and in response to the weeks events

[20:56] <Barbara-VHL> 3did she kiss the camel, Bob?

[20:57] <liz-VHL> 6is this leading to gog magog stan

[20:57] <Karen-VHL> Bob...do you know of any other gathering's coming up?

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> LOL Barb - no kiss

[20:57] <liz-VHL> 6or bob

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> no, Karen

[20:57] <dovecry-VHL> Karen are you in Israel?

[20:57] <Barbara-VHL> 3I did. Was told I was supposed to!!

[20:57] <Karen-VHL> dovecry...don't I wish...

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> yuck!

[20:57] <shelly-VHL> hello

[20:57] <Barbara-VHL> 3It wasn't bad...

[20:57] <clemma-VHL> God is in control of all of this... "Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by Him and afflicted" Isaiah 53:4

[20:57] <VCI-Stan> Listiening with one ear to the 700 CLub - Pat Robertson's saying he felt he heard from the Lord that there was going to be "something" in October

[20:57] <Karen-VHL> dove...once I get there I can't leave..Stan is this a bad attitude on my part...?

[20:57] <dovecry-VHL> I do wish I was

[20:57] <VCI-Bob> Liz, eventually, yes, but I don't see that happening right away

[20:57] <liz-VHL> 6hi shelly

[20:58] <VCI-Stan> he says he's expecting this to break into a full scale war

[20:58] <liz-VHL> 6okay bob then what

[20:58] <Jerry-VHL> Zeck 8:20???

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[20:58] <VCI-Stan> the last few days both Shimon Peres and Israel's chief of staff have said they do not see this breaking out into a full scale war

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[20:58] <VCI-Bob> Liz, a war - Israel vs Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, maybe others

[20:59] <VCI-Bob> Stan - we know more than Peres does :)

[20:59] <skip-VHL> 4but ithink afull war is coming soon

[20:59] <liz-VHL> 6okay

[20:59] <VCI-Stan> deputy prime minister Ben Eliezer said that the peace process is dead, and that he believed arafat wants a war

[20:59] <Karen-VHL> Stan....What is the overall mood in Israel..were you able to hear or see anything going on in Ramallah...my gut's felt lilke they were being torn when I found out and subsequently saw something of what happened to the Israeli soldiers...

[20:59] <VCI-Stan> Bob :) poor peres, always the loser

[21:00] <liz-VHL> 6have they been playing that video there stan

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> LOL

[21:00] <liz-VHL> 6they are here alott

[21:00] <VCI-Stan> Karen - the mood here is pretty tense

[21:00] <VCI-Stan> depending on who you listen to

[21:00] <Karen-VHL> Another day of rage is being called for tomorrow by the Palestinians...and now some Jews are saying the same thing in Israel

[21:00] <VCI-Bob> I would think there is anger over the lynchings?

[21:00] <VCI-Stan> "most israelis are still for the peace process" - Christianne Amanpour, CNN

[21:01] <Karen-VHL> Stan..did you hear about this day of rage again?

[21:01] <Annie-VHL> Most people here don't know what's going on there but are fired up about our ship being hit

[21:01] <VCI-Stan> liz - video , you mean the lynchings?

[21:01] <dovecry-VHL> What does it mean Jerry? "Zech.8 : 20"

[21:01] <liz-VHL> 6well as much as i dont want to i gotta go..how long you be on Bob

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> you know what that is, Stan - pure propaganda from CNN - not reporting, but trying to shape the events

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[21:01] <liz-VHL> 6yeah that

[21:01] <VCI-Stan> karen, heard about the day of rage earlier, before all this happened

[21:01] <Karen-VHL> Stan...yes, I saw her speak on that and the various interviews today..

[21:01] <dovecry-VHL> I am seeing the clips on the news now about Israel

[21:01] <VCI-Bob> For awhile, Liz

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[21:02] <VCI-Bob> 10:30 at least, probably

[21:02] <liz-VHL> 6its ddownrright heartbreaking

[21:02] <VCI-Stan> the stabbings, victory signs, cheers, beatings,it was all replayed over and over and over again, for hours

[21:02] <liz-VHL> 6i was so shaken up for a while

[21:02] <Karen-VHL> Stan...last I heard from Cnn right before I took a nap 2 hours ago..They are calling for another day of rage and Christie said she would keep us update concerning this evernt..

[21:02] <VCI-Stan> ]on israeli television

[21:02] <Seth-VHL> shalom everyone

[21:02] <VCI-Stan> Shalom Seth

[21:02] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Seth

[21:02] <dovecry-VHL> WoW!

[21:02] <Karen-VHL> brb

[21:02] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Seth.

[21:03] <liz-VHL> 6well i gotta depart for a while...stan your in my prayers...Bob i try to come back in a bit

[21:03] <Annie-VHL> shalom seth

[21:03] <Kathy-VHL> God must be awfully angry but He still loves enough to wait

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[21:03] <Jerry-VHL> Bob, any thoughts on Zech 8:20? Are we in this time frame?

[21:03] <VCI-Stan> thanks liz

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[21:03] <Nina-VHL> Hell

[21:03] <VCI-Bob> I'll post it, Jerry

[21:04] <Nina-VHL> Hello

[21:04] <Nina-VHL> LOL

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Many peoples and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, (Zechariah 8:20 NIV)

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say, 'Let us go at once to entreat the LORD and seek the LORD Almighty. I myself am going.' (Zechariah 8:21 NIV)

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the LORD Almighty and to entreat him." (Zechariah 8:22 NIV)

[21:04] <dovecry-VHL> Lord be with Your people , Jesus I pray in You there is peace for the Land, Amen

[21:04] <Jerry-VHL> Bob, sorry, my typing stinks

[21:04] <Jerry-VHL> Forgive please

[21:04] <VCI-Stan> Karen - it's going to be a day of rage, yes

[21:04] <VCI-Bob> Jerry, the full fulfillment of that will happen when the Lord Jesus reigns from Mount Zion

[21:05] <VCI-Stan> i imagine there will be some pretty serious clashs throughout the "territories"

[21:05] <Karen-VHL> Stan...it's about 3:00 in the morning in Israel right?

[21:05] <Geneva-VHL65> I have to go now but will read the text tomorrow. going to listen to cnn and see what they are saying

[21:05] <VCI-Stan> 3.00 yes, Karen

[21:05] <VCI-Bob> Bye, Geneva

[21:05] <Jerry-VHL> What about the verse that states that they will take hold of the skirt of a Jew

[21:05] <Annie-VHL> God Bless Geneva

[21:05] <mamapenny-VHL> 13How are the christian-arabs holding in all of this,caught in the middle,they need our prayers!!

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[21:05] <Karen-VHL> Stan..and what is the news concerning the families of the two soldiers..I haven't heard them identified as of yet on the news...

[21:05] <VCI-Bob> This is what the LORD Almighty says: "In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.'" An Oracle (Zechariah 8:23 NIV)

[21:05] <VCI-Stan> I will have to bow out in a minute, will have a busy day Friday I imagine

[21:06] <VCI-Bob> It's been a special treat for you to join us, Stan :) I know it's not easy

[21:06] <dovecry-VHL> I read Zech.8:20-23, what does it mean, if I may ask?:-)

[21:06] <Karen-VHL> Stan...ok, your family is ok right....?

[21:06] <VCI-Stan> no news about the families yet - I have been cringing for that news all day

[21:06] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Thank you, Stan....

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[21:06] <VCI-Bob> v 23 is in contrast to the scorn with which Jews are regarded by many now

[21:07] <called_out-VHL> 10Thanks Stan, rest well :)

[21:07] <VCI-Stan> I know you all have acess to many news sources, especially on the internet

[21:07] <clemma-VHL> Thanks, Stan ... Go with God

[21:07] <skip-VHL> 4prayong for you Stan

[21:07] <Karen-VHL> ditto here Stan...I can only imagine the pain and grief of these families..G-d help them..

[21:07] <VCI-Stan> but I shall endevor to keep Virtual HolyLand's headlines as up to date as I can

[21:07] <VCI-Bob> Get some good sleep now Stan :)

[21:07] <Annie-VHL> your in my prayers all the time God Bless Stan

[21:07] <Seth-VHL> stan as one who has lived thru what you are now be careful and stay close to your prayer room

[21:07] <VCI-Stan> and will drop in and out of this "War room" as I am able

[21:07] <Jerry-VHL> So after all the bad stuff happens, they will gain the respect of the nations?

[21:07] <Karen-VHL> Stan...G-d speed and blessings to you and all yours...

[21:07] <eden-VHL> God Bless You and yours, Stan and thank you

[21:07] <dovecry-VHL> God be with you my friend Stan

[21:08] <mamapenny-VHL> 13The Lord be with you Stan

[21:08] <Kathy-VHL> praying for you Stan

[21:08] <dovecry-VHL> I love you

[21:08] <Karen-VHL> Stan..Yes, thank-you for your sacrifices and committment.....

[21:08] <Jerry-VHL> Bless you Stan, may the Lord keep you safe from all the evil raging around you!

[21:08] <VCI-Bob> The Lord will be a shield around you and the family

[21:08] <Karen-VHL> Bob...Amen

[21:08] <Annie-VHL> Amen

[21:09] <Jerry-VHL> Amen

[21:09] <eden-VHL> Amen

[21:09] <VCI-Stan> It's sure special knowing you you are all wonderful - may He bless and keep every one of you too

[21:09] <Nina-VHL> Amen

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[21:09] <dovecry-VHL> YES! He Will in the name of Jesus, Thank You Lord, Amen

[21:09] <Karen-VHL> Bob...did you have to leave Israel..Iam sure it was very difficult to leave...are you returning any time soon...

[21:09] <mamapenny-VHL> 13The Lord has prepared a table for you in the presence of your enemies

[21:09] <Karen-VHL> Todah Stan...

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[21:09] <VCI-Stan> please drop into this chat room as you are able over the weekend

[21:09] <VCI-Bob> it was difficult, and I hope very soon

[21:10] <VCI-Stan> and chag sukkot sameach - happy feast of tabernacles - to you all

[21:10] <clemma-VHL> Shalom, Stan

[21:10] <VCI-Stan> shalom shalom

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[21:10] <skip-VHL> 4will it be maned Stan the war room

[21:10] <Toria-VHL> 5good night all be safe and blessed

[21:10] <dovecry-VHL> God Bless you Stan

[21:10] <Karen-VHL> Bob...will restrictions be placed on non Israeli people wanting to go to Israel..will it be harder to get a passport and get into Israel?

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> Night, Toria

[21:10] <Jerry-VHL> shalom Toria

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> Karen, at present, no

[21:10] <VCI-Bob> there are warnings, but no restrictions

[21:10] <clemma-VHL> night toria

[21:10] <Annie-VHL> Good night Toria God Bless

[21:11] <Karen-VHL> Bob..so when things really heat up more than they have it is going to be hard to get in right?

[21:11] <dovecry-VHL> blessings to you Toria

[21:11] <VCI-Bob> that's possible, Karen, if it turns into full blown war

[21:11] <Karen-VHL> Bob..I was told I could go to New York and get a passport in a day...do you know anything of this?

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> no

[21:12] <Karen-VHL> Bob...we haven't even heard from the in house terrorists in the states yet..G-d help us and keep us safe..

[21:12] <yiayia-VHL> Shalom Toria....

[21:12] <VCI-Bob> it took about a month to get mine

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[21:13] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Rich

[21:13] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...do you remember me telling you about this getting a passport in a day info...?

[21:13] <skip-VHL> 4I think so Karen cheeck it out

[21:13] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Rich

[21:13] <Annie-VHL> Bob tell me how you felt being thereand did God reveal anything to you

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> OK - let's hear everyone's thoughts on what happened today

[21:13] <Seth-VHL> EVERYONE needs to have a passport, in DC they stopped giving the fast service it now takes weeks to get one

[21:13] <Kathy-VHL> Hi Rich

[21:13] <Karen-VHL> skip..you mean about the passport right?

[21:13] <Rich-VHL> 7Hello everybody

[21:13] <VCI-Bob> Annie, it was very moving - hard to put into words

[21:13] <Toria-VHL> 5In Louisiana you can go to New Olreans and walk one thru with your airplane ticket.

[21:13] <Nina-VHL> I think that Barak did exactly what needed to be done at this time

[21:13] <Karen-VHL> Seth...so the possibility of getting one in a day no longer exists from what you understand?

[21:14] <skip-VHL> 4yes Karen

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> It was like a dream, almost, being there

[21:14] <Jerry-VHL> I was sick, and I thought about the parents of those poor soldiers. I can understan why Israel responded the way they did.

[21:14] <Karen-VHL> Toria..now thats service...

[21:14] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina

[21:14] <skip-VHL> 4But seth knows more

[21:14] <Karen-VHL> Bob..I can only imagine it must have felt that way...

[21:14] <mamapenny-VHL> 13A passport or visa, there is a difference

[21:14] <Nina-VHL> I wish that the missles would have destroyed Arafat

[21:14] <Rich-VHL> 7hi jerry Bob Kathy Bez skip and all

[21:14] <Seth-VHL> that is what we have been runing into yes

[21:14] <Nina-VHL> ;s headquarters

[21:14] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Hi Rich.

[21:15] <dovecry-VHL> Bob, and everyone, I must also say Shalom... I love you all very much, and thank the Lord for you.

[21:15] <Annie-VHL> Hi Rich

[21:15] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...ditto but now they are starting to smear Israel and putting them into an almost childlike tit for tat category...

[21:15] <Seth-VHL> they seem to be delaying the passports

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> I prayed often that the Temple Mount would soon be rid of those horrid Islamic structures

[21:15] <skip-VHL> 4hi rich

[21:15] <dovecry-VHL> God Bless you Bob

[21:15] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Dovecry :)

[21:15] <Karen-VHL> dovecry...lila tov..be well be blessed...

[21:15] <Bezalel-VHL> 2My prayers will continue for you Dove...rest well.

[21:15] <Nina-VHL> Righteous indignation is how I see it

[21:15] <Annie-VHL> Shalom Dovecry peace to you

[21:15] <Seth-VHL> a visa is no problem

[21:15] <yiayia-VHL> Bob, were you able to get into the Mosque on the Temple Mount?

[21:15] <dovecry-VHL> Bez. love to you my friend

[21:15] <Toria-VHL> 5Bob one more thing please. You mentioned earlier that a travel advisory had been given. Where did you hear that?

[21:15] <Nina-VHL> I dreamed that the Dome was destroyed

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> Nina, this outbreak since Rosh Hashanah is the Lord's doing

[21:16] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...did you see Barak's interview...He swore..he was so very, very angry..His face exploded with emotion at different points..

[21:16] <dovecry-VHL> thank you all

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> Toria, I read it in a news report tonight

[21:16] <Nina-VHL> Amen Bob

[21:16] <clemma-VHL> watching the events of today was difficult and sad, yet, iI feel a sense of awe in having the opportunity to live during this time

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[21:16] <Jerry-VHL> Yes, Why doesn't Israel capture the temple mount in retailiation for the holy shrines. It would be understandable in the eyes of the world, since they justify the soldiers brutal death for the childs death

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> Yia, we were not allowed to go on the Temple Mount

[21:16] <Seth-VHL> the state dept has issued a travel advisory

[21:16] <skip-VHL> 4G-d has his people ISRAEL ---satan his people arabs

[21:16] <Nina-VHL> I also dreamed that the necessary items for Temple Worship was hidden under the Dome

[21:16] <Karen-VHL> I wonder how much gas is going to go up now...

[21:16] <VCI-Bob> Jerry, the political situation would not allow that yet, in the eyes of the Israelis

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> plus....

[21:17] <Toria-VHL> 5There will be people that are going on my trip that will probably see this. I Really feel like this group is to go.

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> it's not all that important to many of them

[21:17] <Jerry-VHL> The Palestinians are destroying Josephs tomb, Historical synagogue

[21:17] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...good point..and also I would like to add we didn't see the world react like this when the blood of Jewish children was spillled..

[21:17] <Nina-VHL> I was there in 1993 and was allowed to go up to the Mount

[21:17] <Nina-VHL> Glad I did.

[21:17] <yiayia-VHL> Yes, Nina....:)

[21:17] <VCI-Bob> We had hoped to go up there, but it was closed to Israelis and tourists

[21:17] <Karen-VHL> Nina...did you see the inscription...G-d has no son, neither has he need of one?

[21:17] <Nina-VHL> Have any of you heard that a mosque is being built on Joseph's Tomb

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> Didn't hear that, Nina

[21:18] <yiayia-VHL> Yes, I heard that too, Nina

[21:18] <Nina-VHL> No, it must have been in Arabic

[21:18] <Karen-VHL> Nina..I heard that the Palestinians pledged to rebuild the tomb..

[21:18] <yiayia-VHL> Yes, they said that Karen, but then the news came out they were building a mosque!

[21:18] <Jerry-VHL> Karen, they gave their disaproval, but dare Israel retailiated about the bus bombs like the Palestinians are justfied in theri retailiations. Sickning

[21:18] <Rich-VHL> 7I heard that too nina

[21:18] <clemma-VHL> and they are building a mosque instead

[21:18] <Kathy-VHL> Well they will sure have a surprise when Joseph comes up out of that tomb lol

[21:18] <mamapenny-VHL> 13I heard the same on Nightline last night

[21:18] <VCI-Bob> yeah, Kathy :)

[21:18] <yiayia-VHL> LOL :)

[21:18] <Karen-VHL> Bob, Jerry and I were discussing today that Clinton and His Administration have to know at least some of the biblical prophecy's concerning Israel..more...

[21:19] <clemma-VHL> lol

[21:19] <Annie-VHL> I heard they painted some green on the tomb after they attacked it

[21:19] <Nina-VHL> There is a little hut shaped area up there with some sort of rock under it outside of the Dome and the rock is split into the shape of a cross

[21:19] <eden-VHL> Bob, i saw your map on trumpet sounds, "no more malicious enemies", excellcent, maybe soon?

[21:19] <VCI-Bob> yes, Karen?

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[21:19] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Eden, perhaps very soon

[21:19] <Karen-VHL> Bob, and that Israel and the U.S. are working peace but ultimately know there is going to be a great war..more..

[21:19] <Karen-VHL> Bob, it's either that or Clinton is as blind as a bat...

[21:19] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...true..only too true...

[21:20] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...sad also...

[21:20] <Nina-VHL> Bob do you see in prophesy that the USA will turn on Israel

[21:20] <Karen-VHL> Bob...did you get the trhree part post about Clinton..

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[21:20] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina - none of the nation will stand with Israel in then end, as I understand it

[21:20] <Bry4Jesus-VHL> Hi all

[21:21] <Nina-VHL> I figured that, due to oil and all.

[21:21] <Nina-VHL> Hi Bry

[21:21] <yiayia-VHL> Shalom Bry4

[21:21] <Rich-VHL> 7hi Bry

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> yes, Karen - I wonder how much they do understand, regarding Bible prophecy

[21:21] <shelly-VHL> hi bry

[21:21] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Reminds me of when Ronald Reagan took office from Jimmy Carter with the Iranian crisis.

[21:21] <Annie-VHL> Shalom Bry4

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> yes, mama?

[21:21] <Bry4Jesus-VHL> I Have a question

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> how so?

[21:21] <Kathy-VHL> they are blinded

[21:21] <Nina-VHL> None if the Holy Spirit is not dwelling in them

[21:21] <Rich-VHL> 7this is much better mama

[21:21] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom ByrJesus

[21:21] <VCI-Bob> ok, Bry?

[21:22] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Carter wasnt respected by the Iranians

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> Good point, mama

[21:22] <Bry4Jesus-VHL> how close are we to the return of Jesus?

[21:22] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Likewise with Clinton.

[21:22] <VCI-Bob> Bry, we don't know exactly, but it's soon :)

[21:22] <Rich-VHL> 7did you all hear that iraq has sent troops west

[21:22] <Jerry-VHL> All eyes are focused on Jerusalem, This means that it is close... very close

[21:22] <Karen-VHL> bob...my personal belief is that they know alot more than they are letting on..I read that Clinton's minister has been advising him for years now about Israel..

[21:22] <Bry4Jesus-VHL> with all the war and stuff going on in Israel

[21:22] <Nina-VHL> Yes Rich

[21:22] <skip-VHL> 4how many of the nations sent a rep. to mid east for confrence BOB?

[21:23] <Rich-VHL> 7have you heard any more nina

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[21:23] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...true..very, very true...we may still see some lull and a return to the tables when things calm down but we know the outcome..

[21:23] <VCI-Bob> hold on folks - I have to step away for a minute - hold onto those questions :)

[21:23] <Catalina-VHL> hello all

[21:23] <Rich-VHL> 7Ok Bob

[21:23] <Nina-VHL> I head that they are watching them via Satellite and that they don't pose a danger to Israel until they move north

[21:24] <Rich-VHL> 7hello Catalina

[21:24] <Nina-VHL> The west is their training grounds

[21:24] <Annie-VHL> hi Catalina

[21:24] <eden-VHL> Cat, Shalom, good to see you again

[21:24] <Catalina-VHL> how is everyone

[21:24] <skip-VHL> 4or does any one else know the answer to my ??

[21:24] <Rich-VHL> 7oh Ok nina

[21:24] <Karen-VHL> Is anyone here interested in getting together in one of the rooms to discuss working together to make a Gentile Aliyah a reality?

[21:24] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Theres now doubt they all are talking war with Israel.

[21:24] <Catalina-VHL> I am sure I have questions that have been answered, but how are things in Israel

[21:24] <Jerry-VHL> I will

[21:24] <Jerry-VHL> Karen, I will

[21:24] <Nina-VHL> I don't skip sorry, I would like to know tho

[21:24] <Rich-VHL> 7how can that be done Karen

[21:24] <Catalina-VHL> There is doubt they are talking war are its inevitable there will be war?

[21:25] <Karen-VHL> Rich...well, we would need to brainstorm...and pray...but there are so many of us that want to get to Israel...

[21:25] <Jerry-VHL> With God, all things are possible. Does God want us to stand by Israel's side, not just spiritually, but perhaps physically.

[21:25] <Rich-VHL> 7yes Catalina there will be war all out soon

[21:25] <Nina-VHL> Karen, I personally would love to go back, just not now with all this going on. You would be too restricted in your visit to occupied territories which hold a lot of the good sites

[21:25] <skip-VHL> 4me Karen

[21:25] <VCI-Bob> OK - I'm back

[21:26] <Catalina-VHL> I could not believe the news, I was totally excited and sad at the same time, this was sooo unexpected

[21:26] <Rich-VHL> 7I know Catalina

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> please repeat any questions I missed

[21:26] <Karen-VHL> Nina...For a time...but, I don't want to come back..I am willing to hang out with the camels if necessary...

[21:26] <Rich-VHL> 7I mean Karen

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[21:26] <Nina-VHL> That is true love Karen

[21:26] <skip-VHL> 4bob how many national reps. on way to talk peace?

[21:26] <Catalina-VHL> Hi, Bob, how are you? My questions is since I just got on what is your opinion of what is going to happen now?

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Steve

[21:26] <Karen-VHL> skip...ok, I am going to post a general topic for this...we can catch up and talk about it further..look for the post..

[21:26] <VCI-Bob> I don't know, Skip

[21:26] <steve-VHL> hello

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[21:27] <Annie-VHL> shalom Steve

[21:27] <skip-VHL> 4ok Karen

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> Catalina, whether right away, or in a little while, I think this will lead to a war

[21:27] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Steve...

[21:27] <Rich-VHL> 7what is syria up to Bob

[21:27] <VCI-Bob> Rich, some saber rattling

[21:27] <Rich-VHL> 7hi Steve

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[21:27] <Catalina-VHL> so do I. When I saw what had happened I really could not believe what had happened

[21:27] <steve-VHL> hi

[21:27] <Catalina-VHL> I thought things were going to calm down for a while

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> and Bashir Assad has been consulting with various Arab leaders

[21:28] <Jerry-VHL> shalom Steve

[21:28] <Rich-VHL> 7haven't moved troops huh Bob

[21:28] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...I didn't get to the midi yet..I crashed big time till a little while ago..tell Mark I will get to it soon...

[21:28] <Catalina-VHL> Also, isnt it terrible about the ship that was bombed?

[21:28] <steve-VHL> shalom

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> not that I have heard, Rich

[21:28] <skip-VHL> 4watch out for the leader with the answer to all this

[21:28] <Seth-VHL> i think we should be very careful at saying ALL arabs are evil, some are the people who will stand with Israel at the end thye are hebrews,

[21:28] <Nina-VHL> The infidels won't realize their doom until the day in the Valley of Migedo

[21:28] <Catalina-VHL> So true Nina

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> Seth, that's a good point

[21:28] <Catalina-VHL> Is Stan on here?

[21:28] <clemma-VHL> blessings and shalom all ... the Lord be with each of you

[21:28] <Karen-VHL> Seth...I agree...today I heard though that some Israeli Arabs are starting to side with the Palestinians..

[21:28] <VCI-Bob> He was earlier, Catalina

[21:29] <Seth-VHL> but we also have those who are the decsendants of the hitites abd girgashites they want war as they always have

[21:29] <Karen-VHL> clemma..lila tov and peace be with you...

[21:29] <Catalina-VHL> What did he say about the atmosphere there?

[21:29] <Nina-VHL> A lot of the Christians in Israel are Arabs, they are more easily converted than the Jews

[21:29] <Jerry-VHL> Agreed Seth - They are in a terrible fix. If they stand with Israel, their own people could turn on them and even kill them. In some area I am sure they are petrified to support Israel

[21:29] <Rich-VHL> 7right Seth I just don't like the arabs that cause trouble

[21:29] <Catalina-VHL> Is the official count still 3 soldiers that died or did it go to 4?

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[21:29] <VCI-Bob> Yes, but true Christians are not going to be involved in such violence against Israel

[21:29] <Rich-VHL> 7they show what side their on

[21:30] <Karen-VHL> I heard that the messanics are having a horrible time in Israel and that they more or less have to be very secretive....

[21:30] <skip-VHL> 4if an arab is a true christian he wont side against G_D

[21:30] <Seth-VHL> maybe they are not arabs but rather those ppl's who the israelites didn't destroy millinea ago

[21:30] <Nina-VHL> Yes, but I thing the Arab Christians could be martyred

[21:30] <Jerry-VHL> But Bob, what if their families are involved, Will they have a choice without having to leave their own people

[21:30] <Karen-VHL> Catalina..did you just hear that the 3rd soldier was killed in Ramallah today?

[21:30] <Catalina-VHL> I feel so bad for the Israeli's , everyone is against them, but they will stand their own. I caught myself at work today when I would check the news out saying under my breath "you go get them"

[21:30] <mamapenny-VHL> 13Good night folks,peace (shalom from Texas)

[21:30] <Nina-VHL> Nite mama

[21:30] <yiayia-VHL> Shalom Mamapenny....

[21:31] <Nina-VHL> God Bless

[21:31] <Karen-VHL> shalom marnapenny...lila tov...be blessed..

[21:31] <Seth-VHL> there are jews who say they are but are lying so why not arabs or ismaelite who are not but lie

[21:31] <skip-VHL> 4Shalom mama

[21:31] <Rich-VHL> 7me too Catalina

[21:31] <Catalina-VHL> Well this afternoon I had heard the number was 3. They did not know the status of the 4th Israeli soldier

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[21:31] <Rich-VHL> 7good night mama

[21:31] <Jerry-VHL> shalom mamapenny

[21:31] <Karen-VHL> Catalina...so it has been a confirmed death then?

[21:31] <VCI-Bob> Jerry, we all may have to make that choice someday - stay true to the Lord and our Christian principles, and suffer the consequences

[21:31] <yiayia-VHL> I've only heard of 2....

[21:31] <Nina-VHL> I heard that they were hanged, burned and then cut up

[21:32] <Catalina-VHL> As far as I know so far 3 are dead and the 4th is unknown but they said probably dead too.

[21:32] <Annie-VHL> Good night Mama

[21:32] <Rich-VHL> 7Jesus did that for us didn't He Bob

[21:32] <Kathy-VHL> most Christians are not prepared for that Bob

[21:32] <Jerry-VHL> Bob you are scaring me, becasue you are right

[21:32] <Karen-VHL> Bob...can I come and live with you if I am not in Israel at the time we have to stand and maybe be killed...? I am not kidding here...we true believers in Israel need to stand together...

[21:32] <Jerry-VHL> God grant us courage during these most trying times

[21:32] <Rich-VHL> 7they will be very soon Karen

[21:32] <VCI-Bob> Nothing to be scared of - but the Lord does tell us we will NEED that mindset

[21:32] <Rich-VHL> 7I mean Kathy

[21:33] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...In our neck of the woods it's really just you and me as far as people we know...yes, we need courage...

[21:33] <Jerry-VHL> This is surreal

[21:33] <Kathy-VHL> right Rich

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints. (Revelation 13:10 NIV)

[21:33] <Nina-VHL> I suggest that everyone go get gas tonite or early in morning

[21:33] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...I keep praying ...L-rd, move quickly...let's move through this horror and be done with it...

[21:33] <skip-VHL> 4you have to remember we are grafted into the Vine and will suffer as our brothers the JEWS

[21:33] <Rich-VHL> 7Amen Bob

[21:33] <VCI-Bob> This the attitude and mindset the Lord calls us to have

[21:34] <Karen-VHL> Bob..yes, this passage really stands out to me as well...

[21:34] <Nina-VHL> Amen Bob and skip

[21:34] <Seth-VHL> we need to get serious about our religion and weed out any error we may harbor, return to the ways delivered

[21:34] <Karen-VHL> skip...that is a good point ...

[21:34] <Catalina-VHL> Has anyone heard if Russia has said anything about this?

[21:34] <VCI-Bob> right Seth

[21:34] <Nina-VHL> CNN is still saying 2 soilders

[21:34] <Karen-VHL> Seth...we need to continue to be purified...

[21:34] <Rich-VHL> 7keep our eyes on jesus Seth

[21:34] <yiayia-VHL> Amen Rich!

[21:34] <Rich-VHL> 7Jesus

[21:34] <Nina-VHL> I have heard that Russia is supplying Syria with arms

[21:35] <Seth-VHL> maybe religion is childish nonsense and we should rather be seeking a way of life

[21:35] <Karen-VHL> Catalina..I heard they more or less condemned Israel...that was the last I heard..

[21:35] <Annie-VHL> Karen where are you?

[21:35] <Nina-VHL> Jack Van Impe

[21:35] <Jerry-VHL> OIL??? Did you notice the Stock Market

[21:35] <VCI-Bob> many many times the Lord says to us "FEAR NOT" - when are we going to start taking Him seriously on that? :)

[21:35] <Karen-VHL> Annie...I am in Albany...and you?

[21:35] <Catalina-VHL> One of the news sites on the web said 3, of course they might have been wrong. But what I heard was that 2 were dead, the 3 was returned to Israel where he died of his injuries

[21:35] <Rich-VHL> 7nina russia has a pact with syria

[21:35] <skip-VHL> 4amen Bob

[21:35] <Annie-VHL> Syracuse here

[21:35] <Nina-VHL> Yes, selling arms they had in the cold war

[21:35] <Kathy-VHL> We are so spoiled here Bob we dont know real fear

[21:36] <VCI-Bob> true, Kathy

[21:36] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...It dropped drastically today as the result of the mid east situation..

[21:36] <Catalina-VHL> What was that about Jack Van Impe Nina?

[21:36] <Rich-VHL> 7If syria goes to war russia has to go with it

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> The Syria news about Russia

[21:36] <Catalina-VHL> It was down 379 points, and oil went up

[21:36] <skip-VHL> 4I believe that is about to change drastcally Kathy

[21:36] <Karen-VHL> Annie...did you see my post...

[21:36] <Kathy-VHL> We are a chosen generation and maybe that is a blessing

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> no, they just are supplying arms

[21:36] <Karen-VHL> Kathy...agreed...

[21:36] <Catalina-VHL> Oh,

[21:36] <Jerry-VHL> This will also give US reason to stand agianst Israel. They will have to chose? Appease the Arabs, or Stand with Israel.

[21:36] <Nina-VHL> I am telling you all, I work at a steel mill and the industry has gone to pot this month.

[21:36] <Kathy-VHL> ignorance is bliss sometimes

[21:36] <Karen-VHL> this will affect gas prices right?

[21:36] <Catalina-VHL> I just feel like we are living prophecy, no doubt about that

[21:37] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Nina, I'm not sure that Syria and Russia have any kind of mutual defense pact now

[21:37] <Nina-VHL> This economy is heading downhill fast

[21:37] <Catalina-VHL> Absolutely

[21:37] <Karen-VHL> Kathy...and very dangerous in the end result I think...

[21:37] <Rich-VHL> 7I don't think so Jerry

[21:37] <Annie-VHL> I'm green at this Karen what post and where do I find it?

[21:37] <Kathy-VHL> very dangerous

[21:37] <Karen-VHL> I heard today that Israel depends on the Arabs for her natural gas..anyone know about this?

[21:37] <Rich-VHL> 7I mean appease the arabs jerry

[21:37] <skip-VHL> 4we cant appease the arabs and they hate USA as much as Israel

[21:37] <Jerry-VHL> The foundations of this world will also crumble, because it is not the foudation of Love. Y'shua will restore the foundations.

[21:38] <Nina-VHL> Amen Jerry

[21:38] <Catalina-VHL> OH by the way, on Jack Van Impe's website yesterday it mentioned that Russia is getting together with other parts of the old soviet union. Sounds like to me they are getting ready to build themselves up again. I think the sleeping bear is about to wake up.

[21:38] <Nina-VHL> Think about it.

[21:38] <Karen-VHL> Annie...you had asked me where I lived...and then I told you and asked where you lived..

[21:38] <Rich-VHL> 7me too Catalina

[21:38] <Karen-VHL> Amen Jerry...L-rd let this move as quickly as possible...

[21:38] <VCI-Bob> Yes

[21:38] <Nina-VHL> How can the NEW WORLD GOVERNMENT take over as long as the USA is an economic world power

[21:38] <Catalina-VHL> and we know what that will mean if this happens

[21:38] <Annie-VHL> Karen I live in Syracuse, N.Y.

[21:39] <Catalina-VHL> america will be sucked into it

[21:39] <Karen-VHL> Annie..that is not to far from me...I am in Albany....

[21:39] <Rich-VHL> 7we are one of the major pushers of one world gov. Nina

[21:39] <Karen-VHL> Its about a 3 hour ride right Annie?

[21:39] <Catalina-VHL> you would not believe all the secret very rich people that are out there trying to get us in the NWO now

[21:39] <Annie-VHL> yes Karen

[21:39] <skip-VHL> 4if stock market fall more days like today we wont be apower of anything

[21:39] <Seth-VHL> america is not one of the good guys anymore

[21:39] <Nina-VHL> Amen, but it will bite us in the rear.....

[21:39] <Karen-VHL> Annie..do you attend a messianic or Israel loving church by any chance?

[21:39] <eden-VHL> Nina, the world is already 'ruled' by the multi national companies

[21:39] <Catalina-VHL> Is it me, are has everyone felt that a recession might be around the corner

[21:40] <Catalina-VHL> We have done well for too long of a period of time

[21:40] <Jerry-VHL> The governments of this world will be on the Shoulders of Christ.

[21:40] <Jerry-VHL> I don't think the one world gov. will be for long

[21:40] <Kathy-VHL> we have done evil for too long

[21:40] <Karen-VHL> Bob...any sense on when we may start to see a crunch for us here in the states economy wise..I am not economically inclined

[21:40] <Catalina-VHL> Do you know that the Gov't does not own the Federal Reserve and the Reserve is not a federal agency. It is owned by the rich and powerful people such as Rockefellar

[21:41] <Rich-VHL> 7I wish I could stay longer everyone, but I have to be getting to bed now, May God Bless you all

[21:41] <Nina-VHL> As bad as I hate the lack of morals in Gore and wouldn't vote for him if my life depended on it. Go back and look at Geo. W's presidency and see how often he used the term NWO

[21:41] <Catalina-VHL> Goodnight Rich

[21:41] <Nina-VHL> Bye Rich

[21:41] <eden-VHL> Karen, war is always good for the economy

[21:41] <skip-VHL> 4night Rich

[21:41] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Rich..lila tove..be well and blessed in the L-rd..

[21:41] <VCI-Bob> Karen, as someone noted, a recession could happen soon - the stock market has been artifically high for a long time, and all it would take is events like today to pop the balloon

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[21:41] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Rich

[21:41] <Nina-VHL> I mean his dad

[21:41] <Kathy-VHL> nite Rich blessings

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[21:41] <Annie-VHL> Kasren I'm sure my church loves Israel but God has put them on my heart a long time ago

[21:41] <Karen-VHL> eden...yes, but our country though in support of Israel won't be directly involved so will that change the equation a bit...

[21:41] <steve-VHL> night rich

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[21:42] <Annie-VHL> God Bless Rich

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> and the high oil prices themselves could initiate a recession

[21:42] <Kathy-VHL> Bush Sr was part of the trilateral commission

[21:42] <Jerry-VHL> This war won't be good for anyone, it will bring all mankind to their knees and they shall learn war no more

[21:42] <Nina-VHL> All of our orders for flat bar steel which is an economic stable have drop off to nothing. We are all on a 32 hour work week, we was working 56 hours

[21:42] <Catalina-VHL> yes he was

[21:42] <eden-VHL> GNP goes up with supplying arms

[21:42] <Karen-VHL> Annie...That is wonderful to know...When did you start to come to realize G-d's works with Israel?

[21:42] <VCI-Bob> interesting, Nina

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[21:43] <Seth-VHL> the big boys are moving out of the market and getting the little guys to buy the stocks that will crash and then the big boys will buy it back for pennies

[21:43] <Karen-VHL> eden..so even if we are cut off oil wise and the prices go up...it will still work for our economy?

[21:43] <Kathy-VHL> none of the political figures are right we have to chose the best of the worst

[21:43] <Nina-VHL> The truck drivers that come into the plant say that they are having a hard time getting loads anywhere in the US

[21:43] <Jerry-VHL> Gold on the Market saw a marked increase. I wonder why????

[21:43] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...Yes! That is what the scripture makes very, very clear...it is going to be horrific..I can't really imagine..but it won't be good..

[21:43] <eden-VHL> US to bid a player to be too hurt by this

[21:43] <Annie-VHL> Karen about 200 years ago, why don't you e-mail me and we'll visit here it is: MBuster2000@aol.com

[21:44] <VCI-Bob> God know how to humble the proud

[21:44] <eden-VHL> big

[21:44] <VCI-Bob> knows

[21:44] <skip-VHL> 4G-d is setting up the world for its finale downfall

[21:44] <Karen-VHL> Annie...200 years ago.??? ok, I am confused....lol....

[21:44] <Seth-VHL> they have to destroy usa economically to set up new government

[21:44] <Annie-VHL> I meant to say 20 years ago LOL

[21:44] <Nina-VHL> Yes Bob God does and the mountains shall be made flat

[21:45] <eden-VHL> but the UN based in the US

[21:45] <Jerry-VHL> Skip as a snare it shall come upon ALL those who dwell upon the face of the earth. We may all be changing our lifestyles soon

[21:45] <Karen-VHL> ok, that is better Annie...at least I won't be talking with a mummy....lol...

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled), (Isaiah 2:12 NIV)

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> for all the cedars of Lebanon, tall and lofty, and all the oaks of Bashan, (Isaiah 2:13 NIV)

[21:45] <VCI-Bob> for all the towering mountains and all the high hills, (Isaiah 2:14 NIV)

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[21:45] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, little

[21:45] <Karen-VHL> I got your email..will write soon....

[21:45] <skip-VHL> 4Babylon the great has fallen

[21:45] <Jerry-VHL> I needed a laugh Annie Thanks

[21:45] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...I think the snare in this situation is going to be oil...

[21:46] <eden-VHL> I'm seeing it from another countries eyes, I am in Australia

[21:46] <Nina-VHL> could be Karen

[21:46] <Karen-VHL> Can you imagine if we get cut off...I understand our reserves are not that great...

[21:46] <Nina-VHL> Do tell eden

[21:46] <Annie-VHL> I must go VERY tired will read this later God Bless you all and Keep the Faith

[21:46] <Little_Bit-VHL> Hi everyone. I'm new to this. Are things bad in Israel right now?

[21:46] <Seth-VHL> babylon has not fully risen yet but it is close

[21:46] <Jerry-VHL> I think everyone should take out their investments in the US Market and put in the Israel Market, because we know they will win

[21:46] <Kathy-VHL> I just wish I could be there to see the look on those arab faces when Joseph comes up out of that tomb

[21:46] <Nina-VHL> Hi Little bit.....it that you Bo

[21:47] <VCI-Bob> Little, things really heated up today

[21:47] <skip-VHL> 4lol

[21:47] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...that is a good point..but I don't have any holdings,....but those who do...I think the advice is good....

[21:47] <Nina-VHL> LOL Kathy I thought of that too

[21:47] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom little bit

[21:47] <eden-VHL> I dont think its time yet for the BIG showdown, so US will still keep strength till that happens

[21:47] <Karen-VHL> Shalom little bit....

[21:47] <Catalina-VHL> Do you think that the PA is going to now retaliate against Israel, also what do you think of those Hamas Terrorists that Arafat let go?

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[21:48] <Little_Bit-VHL> Do you think Clinton will support the Israel or will he wimp out?

[21:48] <Karen-VHL> eden....when do you believe the big showdown is going to be and do you believe the US will stick by Israel...

[21:48] <Catalina-VHL> they could inflict some major problems

[21:48] <Nina-VHL> I think it will escalate as soon as the sun rises in about 4 hours over there

[21:48] <Kathy-VHL> he will wimp out

[21:48] <VCI-Bob> Catalina, all indications are things are going to continue to escalate

[21:48] <Catalina-VHL> I dont know he has a taste of it now, maybe he wont

[21:48] <Catalina-VHL> I just cant see peace happening now

[21:49] <Karen-VHL> Catalina...I think for the most part the P.A. will bide some time..and then strike through Hamas, Hezbelloh ect. as well as their own people..

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> and the release of the terrorist was a definite provocation - it shows their real intentions

[21:49] <Toria-VHL> 5I hate to break in but I just found out our pastor, who is in Lima Peru. He is coming home because his brain is swellimg. He is very young. please agree with us that he will be healed.

[21:49] <Seth-VHL> the usa will set them up thinking they will spport them then they will hold back

[21:49] <Little_Bit-VHL> I'm afraid you are right and if Gore is elected it will be even worse. I'm not sure we have anyone who will really stand by Israel.

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[21:49] <Catalina-VHL> I know clinton is sooo upset that he did not get his legacy for the peace over there. That is why he is trying to stop this so much

[21:49] <Nina-VHL> Oh, there will be a peace pack after their butts have been kicked

[21:49] <VCI-Bob> Let's pray for Toria's pastor

[21:49] <Jerry-VHL> Toria, I am sorry to hear that. Let us all pray now

[21:49] <Karen-VHL> Toria....when will your pastor arrive home..I will be praying for him...G-d heal him and help him to be in you...

[21:49] <Nina-VHL> Clinton wants to work at the UN and he will try there to get glory for mid-east peace

[21:50] <Little_Bit-VHL> Toria we will pray for your pastor

[21:50] <Toria-VHL> 5Thank You His name is Dino.

[21:50] <Karen-VHL> ok

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> Lord Almighty, we petition you on behalf of Dino

[21:50] <Toria-VHL> 5He is flying home now and also his wife is expecting a baby the first of Nov.

[21:50] <skip-VHL> 4please heal him

[21:50] <VCI-Bob> we ask for your mighty and kind hand to touch your servant now

[21:50] <skip-VHL> 4amen

[21:51] <Karen-VHL> sustain him through your healing love and life...

[21:51] <Little_Bit-VHL> Clinton wants to be wherever he can serve his master satan the most

[21:51] <Jerry-VHL> Dear God - Place your hand upon this man. Stop in the name or your beloved Son, any swelling that is going on. Lord you promise when two or more are gathered you are with us. Hear our prayer.

[21:51] <Nina-VHL> He and Hillary's quest for power has only begun

[21:51] <Seth-VHL> peace to you all

[21:51] <eden-VHL> Toria, post it on my website, I will send it out to network, www.steinbrueck.org/member/a/aust-afr-pray/

[21:51] <Catalina-VHL> They have evil guiding them no doubt about it

[21:51] <VCI-Bob> Peace to you, Seth

[21:51] <Karen-VHL> Amen...Thank-you L-rd that you can do this and that we can turn to you in this time of need...

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[21:52] <VCI-Bob> (tongue-in-cheek) - people often ask who the AC might be, I think Hillary would be an excellent candidate :)

[21:52] <Catalina-VHL> I also feel that when he gets out of office, and Gore does not win, I feel that he will do something to get back at the american people

[21:52] <skip-VHL> 4amen catalina

[21:52] <Jerry-VHL> We stand on your Word now Lord, in faith believing you are able to do this for this. OH Lord, you name be glorified for this great thing that we implore you for.

[21:52] <Nina-VHL> Was there a guy named Jay Bird in here earlier?

[21:52] <VCI-Bob> not that I know, Nina

[21:52] <Toria-VHL> 5I am leaving to post this on eden's web site. be back. Thanks

[21:52] <Bezalel-VHL> 2LOL, Bob

[21:52] <Nina-VHL> LOL Bob

[21:52] <Catalina-VHL> the reason why is when I lived in Ark. in the early 80's he lost one of the governor elections, he turned a bunch of prisoners loose

[21:53] <Nina-VHL> thanx, I have been telling a lot of people about this site and I had hoped they would come in tonite

[21:53] <Little_Bit-VHL> Amen Bob - Hillary would

[21:53] <skip-VHL> 4and false prophet BILL setting her up

[21:53] <Nina-VHL> I think maybe she is the harlot........;-)

[21:53] <Karen-VHL> ok, I missed that lol but lol anyway...

[21:53] <Catalina-VHL> If you have not already done so, I think we need to pray for those soldiers who were on that ship and their families. That was such a tragedy. My heart broke when I saw that.

[21:54] <Little_Bit-VHL> I believe all the stuff we have heard about them is true and it scares me to think about how all of America is going to pay for their sins

[21:54] <Karen-VHL> Catalina, And the families of the Israeli soldiers..

[21:54] <Catalina-VHL> so true, we will suffer enough but the ones that are unsaved will truly suffer, their soul is at stake

[21:54] <Nina-VHL> I agree Little Bit. I truly think that they virtually got away with Murder.

[21:54] <Catalina-VHL> yes

[21:55] <Catalina-VHL> and the guy that came out with blood on his hands, he was so happy. Just made me sick

[21:55] <Little_Bit-VHL> What I don't understand is how so many so called Christians could put them back in office

[21:55] <Kathy-VHL> they have no conchious they do not think they have done wrong

[21:55] <Karen-VHL> Bob...can you lead in prayer for the families of the SS Cole and the Israeli families of the soldiers..

[21:55] <Nina-VHL> Backslidden, the church in the USA is backslidden is all I know

[21:56] <Catalina-VHL> spiritual sleep

[21:56] <Kathy-VHL> they will call good evil and evil good

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> Lord of mercy, we ask you on behalf of the families of those slain today....

[21:56] <Catalina-VHL> so true kathy

[21:56] <Catalina-VHL> that you give them strength and courage to face the days ahead

[21:56] <Kathy-VHL> my people perish for a lack of knowledge

[21:56] <VCI-Bob> that your perfect will would be accomplished in all that has happened today

[21:56] <skip-VHL> 4and pray for the injured too L_RD

[21:57] <Little_Bit-VHL> Please bless all the families and injured of whatever country

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> Your hand is in all of these things, Lord, we know

[21:57] <eden-VHL> You work things meant for our harm for our good, Lord

[21:57] <Kathy-VHL> thay they know you love and are sustained by that love which is beyond all understanding

[21:57] <Karen-VHL> Cover them L-rd with you comfort; give them strength and peace to move through the days of grief ahead of them..cover their hearts so they don't become bitter..

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[21:57] <Jerry-VHL> Lord, grant them comfort, and strength

[21:57] <VCI-Bob> and we ask you to continue your work to accomplish your plans

[21:57] <Catalina-VHL> as only you can do

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[21:57] <Kathy-VHL> Let us all walk in your will Father

[21:58] <Nina-VHL> Your will be done on earth Lord

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[21:58] <Karen-VHL> And that you give us hearts that remain steadfast in spite of what may come...

[21:58] <Catalina-VHL> you are almighty God

[21:58] <Jerry-VHL> Lord, I pray for all our soldiers who are over in this horrible area of the world.

[21:58] <Catalina-VHL> and all things are possible through you

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> I have a Scripture to share

[21:58] <Karen-VHL> ok

[21:58] <Little_Bit-VHL> please share it Bob

[21:58] <Nina-VHL> Empower the Christian soldiers to save the lost amoung them in this time

[21:58] <VCI-Bob> But now many nations are gathered against you (Israel). They say, "Let her be defiled, let our eyes gloat over Zion!" (Micah 4:11 NIV)

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD; they do not understand his plan, he who gathers them like sheaves to the threshing floor. (Micah 4:12 NIV)

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> "Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion, for I will give you horns of iron; I will give you hoofs of bronze and you will break to pieces many nations." You will devote their ill-gotten gains to the LORD, their wealth to the Lord of all the earth. (Micah 4:13 NIV)

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> This is what it's all about folks....

[21:59] <Karen-VHL> bob...great passage...I just posted that one to a board to give encouragement to some Jewish people...

[21:59] <skip-VHL> 4AMEN BOB

[21:59] <Little_Bit-VHL> And soon it will be so!! Praise God

[21:59] <Catalina-VHL> GO ISRAEL GO!!!!!

[21:59] <VCI-Bob> the obscene desire of the nations to gloat over Zion

[22:00] <eden-VHL> amen

[22:00] <Jerry-VHL> Bring forth your righteousness speedily Lord. We wait for thee, Our hope is in thee. Lord

[22:00] <Karen-VHL> Bob..Yes, the wisdom of man is foolishness to G-d..

[22:00] <Little_Bit-VHL> Thank you for letting me chat and pray with you. I must go now.

[22:00] <Catalina-VHL> I hate to say this but I hope they kick some ARAB butt!

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> Bye, Little

[22:00] <Nina-VHL> Obscene desire is to establish the Mountain of the Lord to anything other than to Glorify Him

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> thanks for joining us

[22:00] <Karen-VHL> Let us remember also that the L-rd wants us to seek peace and pursue it,...

[22:00] <VCI-Bob> right, nina

[22:01] <Jerry-VHL> Catalina - Let's not classify by nationality, I think it is best to say antiChrist

[22:01] <skip-VHL> 4shalom little bit

[22:01] <Catalina-VHL> definitely, but if all else fells

[22:01] <Catalina-VHL> how about the evil ones

[22:01] <Kathy-VHL> and let us remember that God is only restraining himself so that the lost may have time to come

[22:01] <eden-VHL> What would Jesus say Cat, "forgive them Father for they know not what they do"

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[22:01] <Catalina-VHL> Yes

[22:01] <Nina-VHL> The Arabs say it is my mountain, the Jews say it is my mountain.....the Lord says I dwell on the mountain

[22:01] <Karen-VHL> Catalina...The L-rd would that the wicked be saved and takes no pleasure that any one would perish in this state..let us be of like mind and pray for our enemies..

[22:01] <steve-VHL> good night all, I've got to get to bed too, will read the log later. I Sam. 12:23 God forbid that I should sin against the lord in ceasing to pray for you.

[22:01] <Nina-VHL> It is the Lords

[22:01] <Jerry-VHL> The muslim are the anti-Christ, they deny him and they are at the root of all this nonsense

[22:02] <Karen-VHL> Nina...Yes!

[22:02] <Catalina-VHL> sorry, I think I am getting a little hyper here. I just get so tired of people coming against Israel, and I know that it has to happen

[22:02] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...True, and let's pray that any who have ears to hear don't become consumed by the fires their people will start..

[22:02] <skip-VHL> 4yes CAT

[22:02] <VCI-Bob> Thats ok, Catalina- the Lord is very jealous for Zion :)

[22:02] <Kathy-VHL> when we pray for our enemies we heap coals upon their heads

[22:02] <Jerry-VHL> Pray they escape the danger of this false religions

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[22:03] <Karen-VHL> Catalina..I know how you feel....I have been there...we need to pray that the L-rd give us his sustaining balance..

[22:03] <eden-VHL> yes, Kathy

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> I have another Scripture...

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> about Israel

[22:03] <Karen-VHL> ok

[22:03] <Jerry-VHL> go Bob

[22:03] <Catalina-VHL> yes, it is very hard to do rightn now seeing what they have done to both the American and Israeli soldiers today

[22:03] <Nina-VHL> We must all have courage and share what we know to be true, the unsafed will be concerned with the situation and it will present a great opportunity to witness

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> "'But all who devour you will be devoured; all your enemies will go into exile. Those who plunder you will be plundered; all who make spoil of you I will despoil. (Jeremiah 30:16 NIV)

[22:03] <Kathy-VHL> we meed to pray that the enemy is not successful but that they come to see the wrong in their ways

[22:03] <VCI-Bob> But I will restore you to health and heal your wounds,' declares the LORD, 'because you are called an outcast, Zion for whom no one cares.' (Jeremiah 30:17 NIV)

[22:04] <Catalina-VHL> so true

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> "This is what the LORD says: "'I will restore the fortunes of Jacob's tents and have compassion on his dwellings; the city will be rebuilt on her ruins, and the palace will stand in its proper place. (Jeremiah 30:18 NIV)

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> From them will come songs of thanksgiving and the sound of rejoicing. I will add to their numbers, and they will not be decreased; I will bring them honor, and they will not be disdained. (Jeremiah 30:19 NIV)

[22:04] <skip-VHL> 4PTL

[22:04] <Jerry-VHL> Yes, Kathy

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[22:04] <Nina-VHL> I must get up at 5am and should go. God Bless and Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.

[22:04] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Nina

[22:04] <VCI-Bob> Thanks for your presence and contributions, Nina :)

[22:04] <eden-VHL> Shalom Nina

[22:04] <Karen-VHL> Let this time come as quickly as possible L-rd..and that we would all share in the healing of Israel's wounds and our own in Messiahs name..

[22:04] <Catalina-VHL> All I can say is the next few hours will be interesting to see if anything is going to happen

[22:05] <Kathy-VHL> bye Nina blessings

[22:05] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Nina..be blessed and well..

[22:05] <Nina-VHL> Shalom and you are welcome I will check the room tomorrow nite

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> Catalina, it's very important that we keep praying now

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[22:05] <Kathy-VHL> I have to go also kids getting off work will be hungry lol always hungry

[22:05] <Catalina-VHL> absollutely

[22:05] <VCI-Bob> Bye Kathy - good to have you, as always :)

[22:05] <Kathy-VHL> Blessings to all

[22:05] <Jerry-VHL> For when this is done, it shall be like a dream that passes away, and it will become a vague memory. God will wipe away all tears

[22:05] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Kathy

[22:05] <eden-VHL> Shalom Kathy

[22:05] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Kathy....be strong in the L-rd and the power of his might..boy I wish we all lived next door to one another..

[22:06] <Kathy-VHL> thanks for your unselfish dedication to us Bob

[22:06] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Kathy

[22:06] <skip-VHL> 4shalon nina ,Kathy

[22:06] <VCI-Bob> that reminds me over another Scripture, Jerry

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[22:06] <Jerry-VHL> Go Bob, your on a roll

[22:06] <skip-VHL> 4go BOB

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> But your many enemies will become like fine dust, the ruthless hordes like blown chaff. Suddenly, in an instant, (Isaiah 29:5 NIV)

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire. (Isaiah 29:6 NIV)

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> Then the hordes of all the nations that fight against Ariel, that attack her and her fortress and besiege her, will be as it is with a dream, with a vision in the night-- (Isaiah 29:7 NIV)

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> as when a hungry man dreams that he is eating, but he awakens, and his hunger remains; as when a thirsty man dreams that he is drinking, but he awakens faint, with his thirst unquenched. So will it be with the hordes of all the nations that fight against Mount Zion. (Isaiah 29:8 NIV)

[22:07] <Karen-VHL> Amen! Hear the Word of the L-rd !

[22:07] <eden-VHL> PTL, POWERFUL

[22:07] <VCI-Bob> Amen!

[22:08] <Karen-VHL> The Word of G-d shall not return void but shall accomplish that which is purposed..

[22:08] <Jerry-VHL> Yes, Lord, Do that which must be done. Give us stenght to bare and stand before you

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[22:08] <VCI-Bob> That's right! God is watching to see that His word is accomplished

[22:08] <Karen-VHL> The L-rd's purposes shall be accomplished..let us all keep our affections in the heavens with the L-rd

[22:08] <VCI-Bob> That was my prayer in Jerusalem - "Do it, Lord"

[22:09] <skip-VHL> 4YES DO IT L_RD

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[22:09] <Jerry-VHL> Behold the hand of our God, it shall come and fall grieveiously on the head of the wicked

[22:09] <Karen-VHL> Bob, we touched on this briefly once before Zec 14:2...Do you think it is going to be nuclear or an asteroid...

[22:09] <Karen-VHL> Yes, the L-rd is faithful and shall do all that he has said..

[22:10] <skip-VHL> 4we pass thru a comets trail in NOV.

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> you mean 14:12?

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. (Zechariah 14:12 NIV)

[22:10] <VCI-Bob> On that day men will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. Each man will seize the hand of another, and they will attack each other. (Zechariah 14:13 NIV)

[22:10] <Jerry-VHL> Interesting skip. This would be supernatural intervention. But it is not clear

[22:10] <Karen-VHL> Bob...yes that's the one...

[22:10] <skip-VHL> 4hail weighing a talent

[22:11] <Karen-VHL> skip...whoa..in November huh...hmmmm...Bob, what do you say?

[22:11] <VCI-Bob> Could be a neutron bomb, but the Lord does not need human means to accomplish that

[22:11] <Jerry-VHL> That sounds nuclear, but could it be that an asteroid would have the same effect???

[22:11] <Karen-VHL> Jerry, yes an asteroid could have the same effect I believe..

[22:11] <eden-VHL> could be a biological weapon??

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> could be, or could be just a word from the mouth of the Lord

[22:12] <Karen-VHL> I have watched a science show or two...a direct hit by a significant asteroid could do it I think...

[22:12] <VCI-Bob> to do it

[22:12] <skip-VHL> 4REV. says something about the heavens falling and hail causing great death

[22:12] <Bezalel-VHL> 2The double-edged sword of His tongue!

[22:13] <eden-VHL> your right, bob, "For God nothing is impossible"

[22:13] <Karen-VHL> What do you mean Bob, a word from the mouth of the L-rd..like a consuming by the brightness of the L-rds coming and that the sword of his mouth is the weapon?

[22:14] <Jerry-VHL> I must go now. Karen, let's talk about gentile aliyah, But I can't go to chat now, and perhaps not later. Call me. Peace to All. The peace that passeth understanding is what we need. The world will be freaking out, but give your people peace.

[22:14] <Karen-VHL> Bob, The Messiah putting His foot on the Mount certainly would have the same effect..

[22:14] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Jerry

[22:14] <Catalina-VHL> g'night folks and God bless, I am going to watch Hal Lindsey. He is on TBN now.

[22:14] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...ok, I will catch up with you later..I need to get going as well...

[22:15] <eden-VHL> I must go now to, nice to meet you all, Shalom

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> I mean, we often speculate about the means for how God will accomplish these things, but for Him it's no big deal :)

[22:15] <Karen-VHL> Shalom and be well Catalina...

[22:15] <Catalina-VHL> same to you Karen, goodnight all

[22:15] <skip-VHL> 4welll I am so excited to see G_DS hand moving PTL

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Eden and Catalina :) Come again!

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[22:15] <Karen-VHL> Bob...true...very true....

[22:15] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Jerry, Eden, and Karen.

[22:15] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Skip

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[22:15] <Bezalel-VHL> 2Night Catalina

[22:15] <connied52-VHL> hi, everyone

[22:16] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Connie!

[22:16] <connied52-VHL> hi eden

[22:16] <eden-VHL> GBY you all

[22:16] <Jerry-VHL> Shalom Bob. Are you a 'witness'?

[22:16] <skip-VHL> 4I wait patiently for you L_RD till your word be fulfilled

[22:16] <Karen-VHL> Shalom all...lila tov, be blessed, be well, be loved in the love of our Messiah and our living G-d...

[22:16] <connied52-VHL> how are you Bob how was the trip you were in my prayers

[22:16] <eden-VHL> hi conni just leaving may see you in chat sometime later

[22:16] <Karen-VHL> Brave question Jerry...

[22:16] <eden-VHL> byeeeeeee

[22:16] <skip-VHL> 4Shalom CONNIED52

[22:16] <VCI-Bob> Thanks, Connie! I'm fine - I was sad to leave

[22:16] <Bezalel-VHL> 2I'm going to say good night to all, also...

[22:16] <connied52-VHL> ok, lolo in prayer room

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[22:17] <VCI-Bob> What do you mean, Jerry?

[22:17] <skip-VHL> 4SHALOM BEZ G_D BLESS YOU

[22:17] <connied52-VHL> I can imagine, Bob it would be hard I'm sure

[22:17] <VCI-Bob> And you, Karen? What is "brave"?

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[22:17] <Jerry-VHL> Bob, I asked a simple question.

[22:17] <Karen-VHL> hmmmm...Jerry, you got us into this now get us out...

[22:17] <connied52-VHL> hi skip

[22:17] <VCI-Bob> Yes, I want to go back

[22:17] <Karen-VHL> Jerry, are you asking Bob what I think you are?

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> I'm afraid to ask

[22:18] <Karen-VHL> Jerry..speak now..don't hold your piece...

[22:18] <Jerry-VHL> Karen, do you think I am asking Bob what you think I am asking?

[22:18] <VCI-Bob> OK, ladies - speak straight now

[22:18] <Jerry-VHL> Be afraid, be very afraid. LOL

[22:18] <Karen-VHL> Jerry, Yes, I think that you used a key phrase we have discussed often...is this what you were asking Bob?

[22:18] <connied52-VHL> i'm completely in the dark on this one came in late lol

[22:19] <Karen-VHL> Poor Bob, sorry to be having a conversation about you in your presence...

[22:19] <Jerry-VHL> Do you think that is what I am asking Bob. Sorry, I think I am getting silly now.

[22:19] <skip-VHL> 4lol

[22:19] <VCI-Bob> Me too connie

[22:19] <Karen-VHL> Bob, I thought Jerry was asking you about being a witness you know..like one of the 2...

[22:19] <connied52-VHL> is this an inside joke? i'm lost

[22:19] <skip-VHL> 4TECNICALLY yes BOb is a witness

[22:20] <Karen-VHL> I think that is what Jerry was saying..Jerry!!!!!! Hello is that what you were saying...?

[22:20] <skip-VHL> 4we all are

[22:20] <Jerry-VHL> We are all witnesses, BUT...

[22:20] <VCI-Bob> We are all witnesses, we who know our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ

[22:21] <Karen-VHL> Bob, I don't think that is exactly what Jerry meant..but, speak on for yourself Jerry.,..you started this...

[22:21] <VCI-Bob> speak plainly

[22:21] <connied52-VHL> I think they were referring maybe to Stan and Bob is Israel and being on the mount and the two witnesses in the bible, maybe?

[22:21] <Karen-VHL> connied...no, we are sorry....

[22:21] <Jerry-VHL> I was just wondering if he was one of the Two witnesses.

[22:21] <Karen-VHL> connied...bingo...

[22:21] <Karen-VHL> Bob, are you mad?

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> LOL - you mean crazy? :)

[22:22] <Karen-VHL> Well, it's about time you spoke clearly Jerry...lol...

[22:22] <yiayia-VHL> Shalom Everyone....must get to bed. Will be keeping you and our Israel in our prayers.

[22:22] <Karen-VHL> Bob, crazy?

[22:22] <skip-VHL> 4what are the TWO FAMOUS PROPHETS names?

[22:22] <Jerry-VHL> I wish I knew how to work my smily faces

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> I was hoping you were NOT asking me if I was JW :)

[22:22] <connied52-VHL> night yiayia

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[22:22] <Karen-VHL> yiayia...Shalom...be well...

[22:22] <skip-VHL> 4JW??????

[22:22] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...yea well I am grinning broadly!

[22:22] <VCI-Bob> Jehovah's Witness

[22:23] <skip-VHL> 4oh

[22:23] <Karen-VHL> Bob...Oh, lol..no we don't think you are a JW...

[22:23] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...your a trouble maker...lol

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> That's the terminology they use, ya know :)

[22:23] <skip-VHL> 4Elijah and who?

[22:23] <VCI-Bob> :)

[22:23] <connied52-VHL> Elisha isn't it

[22:23] <connied52-VHL> or?

[22:24] <Karen-VHL> Bob, no Jerry meant one of the 2 witness spoken of in Revelation...

[22:24] <Jerry-VHL> Sorry... I'm tired and when things are too serious I get a little silly, That 200 year remark got me going.

[22:24] <Jerry-VHL> But I really must go now. Shalom All

[22:24] <connied52-VHL> 6night Jerry

[22:24] <Karen-VHL> Jerry...surely, you are tired..that 200 years thing was posts ago...lol....I know how you get, now behave yourself...

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, Jerry :) God bless

[22:24] <VCI-Bob> hey, no need to run :)

[22:25] <Karen-VHL> Bob, you haven't answered Jerry's question have you..did I miss it?

[22:25] <connied52-VHL> 6what did you get to see when you were in Israel Bob

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> I have a good verse about being a witness :)

[22:25] <skip-VHL> 4BOB can you tall me the names of who you like the twwo prophets of REV. are?

[22:25] <Karen-VHL> ok

[22:25] <Jerry-VHL> Karen, you are the tormentor. Goodnight

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> I don't know, Skip

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[22:25] <Karen-VHL> Jerry....goodnite....lol....

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> :) I don't know, Karen :)

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. (Isaiah 43:10 NIV)

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior. (Isaiah 43:11 NIV)

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> I have revealed and saved and proclaimed-- I, and not some foreign god among you. You are my witnesses," declares the LORD, "that I am God. (Isaiah 43:12 NIV)

[22:25] <VCI-Bob> Yes, and from ancient days I am he. No one can deliver out of my hand. When I act, who can reverse it?" (Isaiah 43:13 NIV)

[22:26] <skip-VHL> 4I am glad you could dicifer that mess THANKS

[22:26] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob what did you like seeing the most in Israel besides Stan!

[22:27] <Karen-VHL> Bob, excellent passages....!

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[22:27] <VCI-Bob> These are the verses that the JW use as the basis of their name - of course, they are not truly witnesses of Jehovah because they deny the Son

[22:27] <connied52-VHL> 6hi rose

[22:27] <rose2538> hello

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> Connie, seeing the Western Wall and the Temple Mount (though we could not go up on it)

[22:27] <skip-VHL> 4I have to go get GAS lol see ya'll Monday G_D BLESS YOU ALL, Love Sheree

[22:27] <VCI-Bob> Welcome, Rose

[22:28] <Karen-VHL> I have to go now...I am glad I could shake off my tiredness long enough to be here.....Be blessed and well everyone...Shalom...oh, I hate it when all these typed words run together...

[22:28] <connied52-VHL> 6night skip

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> See ya, Skip :) Shalom

[22:28] <Karen-VHL> Shalom Skip...be blessed...

[22:28] <VCI-Bob> Night, Karen - God's blessings to you :)

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[22:28] <skip-VHL> 4ALIYAH

[22:28] <rose2538> what are yall talking about tonight

[22:28] <skip-VHL> 4:-)

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[22:29] <VCI-Bob> Rose, mainly the situation in Israel - it really heated up today

[22:29] <connied52-VHL> 6I haven't seen the news yet today

[22:29] <rose2538> me neither

[22:29] <VCI-Bob> OK - I will recap it

[22:29] <connied52-VHL> 6thanks

[22:30] <rose2538> but I have heard a lttle about what happened

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> This is from Arutz Sheva news service:

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> The IDF reacted to today's brutal lynching of two Israeli soldiers in Ramallah with five bombing raids on carefully-selected buildings in Ramallah and Gaza.

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> Today's events began when two soldiers, on their way back to their army base in or near Beit El after a short furlough from their reserves duty, were brutally lynched by a wild mob of Arabs. Palestinian sources falsely reported that they were undercover agents. The Israelis entered the city by mistake, and were detained by the Palestinian police.

[22:30] <VCI-Bob> it was horribly brutal

[22:31] <rose2538> so sad

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> and Israel responded strongly with missles from helicopter gunships

[22:31] <connied52-VHL> 6my Lord

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> Stan related to us that the reaction among the people in Israel was strong

[22:31] <VCI-Bob> these actions take it to another level

[22:31] <rose2538> they are fighting over land correct?

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Rose, I guess that describes it

[22:32] <connied52-VHL> 6a more serious level

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> over the land that God promised to Abraham

[22:32] <rose2538> it belongs to the Jews

[22:32] <connied52-VHL> 6and the temple mount

[22:32] <rose2538> forever

[22:32] <VCI-Bob> I was reading Psalm 105 today

[22:33] <connied52-VHL> 6did they show it on tv

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Remember the wonders he has done, his miracles, and the judgments he pronounced, (Psalms 105:5 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> O descendants of Abraham his servant, O sons of Jacob, his chosen ones. (Psalms 105:6 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth. (Psalms 105:7 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> He remembers his covenant forever, the word he commanded, for a thousand generations, (Psalms 105:8 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> the covenant he made with Abraham, the oath he swore to Isaac. (Psalms 105:9 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant: (Psalms 105:10 NIV)

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> "To you I will give the land of Canaan as the portion you will inherit." (Psalms 105:11 NIV)

[22:33] <rose2538> i beleve it what will stard ww 3

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Connie

[22:33] <VCI-Bob> it was awful

[22:33] <connied52-VHL> 6oh, Bob

[22:33] <connied52-VHL> 6how horrible

[22:35] <VCI-Bob> Rose, we do think it will start a war

[22:35] <connied52-VHL> 6i don't see how it couldn't

[22:35] <VCI-Bob> personally, I don't see it as a WW3 but another Arab-Israeli war

[22:35] <connied52-VHL> 6yes

[22:35] <rose2538> me too

[22:36] <rose2538> eventually I mean

[22:36] <connied52-VHL> 6when was it shown just this evening or earlier today

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> I saw the video on the evening news

[22:36] <connied52-VHL> 6Bob you are EST aren't you FL?

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> Yes, Tampa

[22:36] <connied52-VHL> 6i am in Fl also

[22:36] <VCI-Bob> where?

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6Kissimmee

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6near Olando

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6Orlando

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> Hi, neighbor :)

[22:37] <connied52-VHL> 6hello:-)

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> Well, folks, time for me to go tonight.....

[22:37] <VCI-Bob> feel free to keep talking, and stay tuned to VHL for news updates

[22:38] <rose2538> bye Bob

[22:38] <connied52-VHL> 6sorry, I missed most of it but am glad I could get here

[22:38] <connied52-VHL> 6goodnight Bob

[22:38] <VCI-Bob> Shalom, everyone - goodnight

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