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[19:50] <called_out-VHL> The Lord has brought us together for a purpose.

[19:50] <farrell-VHL> 2me too!

[19:50] <HostBob> Hey there! What a good group already!!!

[19:50] <Kathy-VHL> 12definately

[19:50] <Kathy-VHL> 12Hi Bpb

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[19:50] <farrell-VHL> 2Shalom Bob

[19:50] <called_out-VHL> Hi Bob

[19:50] <mkiser-VHL> 13hellooooooooooooo bob,:-)

[19:50] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Bob! :-)

[19:50] <Shiloh42-VHL> Hi Bob

[19:50] <HostBob> Shalom everyone!!!

[19:51] <called_out-VHL> Shalom Delta, didn't see you there

[19:51] <farrell-VHL> 2Where is your crown, Bob:)

[19:51] <Delta-VHL> Shalom, Called out!

[19:51] <HostBob> It fell off already!! :(

[19:51] <mkiser-VHL> 13lol

[19:51] <farrell-VHL> 2better find it:)

[19:52] <Kathy-VHL> 12just like a little boy and I bet your face is dirty too lol

[19:52] <JanetLeigh-VHL> :-) I found it for you...here

[19:52] <Delta-VHL> Anyone hear anything about Gran's surgery?

[19:52] <HostBob> Stan is the only one who can put it back on, and he is fast asleep :)

[19:52] <called_out-VHL> :-)Mp[e

[19:52] <farrell-VHL> 2Haven't heard yet.

[19:52] <Kathy-VHL> 12lol

[19:52] <called_out-VHL> whoops. wrong keys

[19:52] <HostBob> Kathy, let's just say be glad there is no PC cam here (unshaven face) :)

[19:53] <Delta-VHL> lol

[19:53] <Kathy-VHL> 12lol I know what you meant about that

[19:53] <HostBob> I work at home.... and the work rules here are... shaving optional! :)

[19:53] <Kathy-VHL> 12I am very glad there is not one here lol

[19:53] <mkiser-VHL> 13good rule bob

[19:53] <HostBob> :)

[19:53] <farrell-VHL> 2That's good Bob.

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> 12me too and the dress code went out the window for the summer lol

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[19:54] <HostBob> Welcome, Jerry!

[19:54] <Delta-VHL> <---typical woman. Full fledged make-up unless hiking or exercising

[19:54] <Kathy-VHL> 12yup

[19:54] <Jerry-VHL> Hello to all!

[19:55] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Jerry :-)

[19:55] <farrell-VHL> 2Momoffive, one of my daughters has five children too. I know you are busy, busy, busy:)

[19:55] <Kathy-VHL> 12hi Jerry

[19:55] <farrell-VHL> 2Shalom Jerry

[19:55] <HostBob> Jerry, are you the Jerry who posts on the forums?

[19:55] <Momoffive-VHL> Yes very very busy.....!!!

[19:55] <Momoffive-VHL> Forget the makeup

[19:55] <Jerry-VHL> Yes, and I hope you don't think I am a forum hog.

[19:56] <farrell-VHL> 2That's good, mom, train them up in the Lord.

[19:56] <HostBob> No, not at all! Been enjoying them!!!

[19:56] <HostBob> We've been getting super participation on the forums

[19:56] <Jerry-VHL> I will try to keep them brief in the future.

[19:56] <Delta-VHL> Jerry, hogs aren't kosher! (ducking the boos over that pun)

[19:56] <HostBob> ooooo

[19:57] <Delta-VHL> :-> Sorry?

[19:57] <Jerry-VHL> I might act like a hog, but I don't eat them

[19:57] <HostBob> Your insights are good, Jerry :)

[19:57] <farrell-VHL> 2I learn a lot from forums. Keep it up.

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[19:57] <Kathy-VHL> 12me too

[19:57] <HostBob> Welcome, Patty!

[19:57] <called_out-VHL> :-)Question...I have only been on net for 3 wks. Is what is going on in Jersulem daily really unusual? I have only recently been able to follow their news. Not much gets on news in USA regarding isreal.

[19:58] <mkiser-VHL> 13hi Patty

[19:58] <HostBob> called_out, there are several great sites for Israel news...

[19:58] <called_out-VHL> Welcome Patty:-)

[19:58] <HostBob> www.jpost.com

[19:58] <Jerry-VHL> It is the Lord's Word that will bring us to the truth at this point in time, for In His light shall we see light.

[19:58] <farrell-VHL> 2Hi Patty:)

[19:58] <HostBob> www.israelwire.com

[19:58] <HostBob> www.a7.org

[19:58] <HostBob> to name a few

[19:59] <Kathy-VHL> 12Bob you should post those on the site

[19:59] <HostBob> And we will be discussing many issues tonight regarding Israel

[19:59] <called_out-VHL> I have been following about 3 weeks, since I got my computer. Are things different recently? I mean with the fragil gov and all?

[19:59] <called_out-VHL> Thanks for sites.

[19:59] <Delta-VHL> I have a proposal...?

[19:59] <Delta-VHL> ooops, sorry Called

[19:59] <called_out-VHL> no prob.

[19:59] <HostBob> Well, Barak managed to keep Shas (ultra-orthodox) in the coalition....

[20:00] <Jerry-VHL> What is it called out?

[20:00] <Jerry-VHL> I mean Delta?

[20:00] <HostBob> after Meretz (secular/liberal party) resigned today

[20:00] <HostBob> he's doing a juggling act

[20:00] <Delta-VHL> <--Listening to Bob

[20:00] <pattycake-VHL> hello

[20:00] <Kathy-VHL> 12explain Bob who is who

[20:00] <HostBob> trying to keep his very very shaky coalition together

[20:01] <Kathy-VHL> 12the froien names get confusing for me

[20:01] <HostBob> Shas, the ultra orthodox party, has been strong-arming him for...

[20:01] <farrell-VHL> 2Do you think Barak will succeed,Bob?

[20:01] <HostBob> money and control of the education system

[20:01] <HostBob> and it appears they have coerced him into acqueiscing

[20:01] <HostBob> succeed at what, Farrell?

[20:02] <farrell-VHL> 2holding the coalition together?

[20:02] <HostBob> Kathy, Meretz is a very liberal pary....

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[20:02] <HostBob> they want to give away "land for peace"

[20:02] <Kathy-VHL> 12thks

[20:02] <HostBob> Welcome, Light

[20:02] <called_out-VHL> Welcome Pattycake:-)

[20:02] <HostBob> Farrell, no, not for long...

[20:02] <light2-VHL> Hello God Bless you all

[20:02] <Delta-VHL> Isn't there another party ready to resign?

[20:03] <Jerry-VHL> Hello Light2

[20:03] <HostBob> because, the situation will continue to fall apart (security) and he will lose support, probably

[20:03] <Delta-VHL> Greetings and Shalom Light 2,

[20:03] <pattycake-VHL> why do they want to give the land that was promised to them away?

[20:03] <light2-VHL> Thank you

[20:03] <farrell-VHL> 2Is that good or bad for Israel? Would someone else, say Natanyhu, stand a better chance of keeping the land?

[20:03] <Delta-VHL> :-) Good question!

[20:03] <HostBob> Good question, patty.. anyone want to give a possible explanation?

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[20:04] <Delta-VHL> <---offering?

[20:04] <called_out-VHL> They want to give land away in return for a measure of pease.

[20:04] <HostBob> Probably, farrell - certainly Ariel Sharon would (current leader of Likud)

[20:04] <pattycake-VHL> i believe Natanyhu would.

[20:05] <light2-VHL> Bob have you noticed how the UN is moving in on Israel??

[20:05] <mkiser-VHL> 13yes, but isn't the peace they seek in name only, it isn't true peace

[20:05] <Jerry-VHL> Do you think that perhaps they are simply giving this process enough rope to hang itself

[20:05] <HostBob> Yes, Light, I did - did you see the news about what the Sec-General is saying?

[20:05] <called_out-VHL> No not even temp peace.

[20:05] <HostBob> of the UN?

[20:05] <farrell-VHL> 2What about the "charges" which are pending against Natanyahu? Are they trumped up?

[20:05] <HostBob> That Jerusalem must be relinquished by Israel - he said that today

[20:05] <light2-VHL> About wanting them to give up Jerusalem??

[20:06] <HostBob> Farrell, it seems that they will fade away and be dropped

[20:06] <light2-VHL> Well Bob I found out something very interesting this weekend

[20:06] <Delta-VHL> The Sec-General of the UN is from where, Bob?

[20:06] <HostBob> yes - the UN is taking aim against Israel

[20:06] <HostBob> I don't know, Delta :)

[20:06] <called_out-VHL> Delta, what was your proposal?

[20:07] <Delta-VHL> An Arab nation perhaps? Or Arab sympathizer?

[20:07] <light2-VHL> I beleive the UN will announce its intire agenda after Aug

[20:07] <Delta-VHL> Oh, my proposal was more people should feel free to post! I like ready everyone's posts on the forum

[20:07] <Delta-VHL> (commercial over)

[20:07] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[20:07] <HostBob> :)

[20:07] <Delta-VHL> oops . Ready = Reading

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[20:08] <HostBob> Welcome, everyone, to Bible prophecy chat :)

[20:08] <Jerry-VHL> Does anyone think that perhaps this pending gas crisis is a ploy to pressure countries to side with the Arab producing nations and turn against Israel?

[20:08] <Grace-VHL> Shalom Everyone...And yes Jerry it very well could be....

[20:08] <called_out-VHL> I think the gas crisis is phoney. Something is going on.

[20:08] <pattycake-VHL> i wonder

[20:08] <HostBob> Good point, Jerry - the Arab countries have often used the influence of oil to blackmail the West

[20:08] <light2-VHL> Jerry , what do you mean by current gas crisis?

[20:08] <mkiser-VHL> 13there has to be some reason for the rising prices, and nobody can seem to come up with one

[20:08] <Delta-VHL> From what I understand, the US has much in oil reserves, if we would just use them

[20:08] <farrell-VHL> 2Does anyone else beside me believe Clinton will go on to the UN after his term as president of USA is over?

[20:08] <Jerry-VHL> High prices

[20:09] <Shiloh42-VHL> Yes

[20:09] <Grace-VHL> I understand that we have 45 Billion barrels of oil in reserve..

[20:09] <light2-VHL> Our prices are way lower than European prices

[20:09] <Kathy-VHL> 12I think so Jerry and it is ashamed that people in the US dont stop and consider the tax on petrolium before the blame others

[20:09] <HostBob> Arab oil concerns has been a predominant determining factor in US foreign policy in the Middle East

[20:09] <called_out-VHL> Farrell, I think that is a posibility, he will do something. He is too power hungry.

[20:09] <Delta-VHL> Here, in the Midwest, it is EPA conditional gasoline that is expensive

[20:09] <light2-VHL> Over in Europe the price has always been 2-3 dollars a gallon

[20:09] <Grace-VHL> very true Bob...

[20:10] <called_out-VHL> But, Light, European's don't drive the distances that Americans do.

[20:10] <Delta-VHL> We really have the lowest gasoline prices in the US of most countries

[20:10] <farrell-VHL> 2the UN is gaining more and more prominance in world affairs. Is this fulfillment of God's prophecies?

[20:10] <Grace-VHL> Yes, I believe so Farrell

[20:10] <light2-VHL> Gas prices are the least of Americas problems

[20:10] <light2-VHL> greed and coveteousness

[20:10] <HostBob> And when push comes to shove, the US backs down from supporting Israel if it means jeopardizing their precious oil supply

[20:10] <called_out-VHL> Yes, light, I agree.

[20:10] <Kathy-VHL> 12right light

[20:11] <Grace-VHL> I believe that when G-d said there would be "multitudes" in the valley of decision we were talking about the U.N.

[20:11] <called_out-VHL> Yes.

[20:11] <farrell-VHL> 2Shalom grace, didn't see you appear:)

[20:11] <HostBob> Yes, Farrell - listen to this...

[20:11] <Delta-VHL> The UN has been under speculation for years, but I wonder if there is another coalition that will be more powerful?

[20:11] <Grace-VHL> Exactly Bob..

[20:11] <Grace-VHL> Shalom Farrell..

[20:11] <HostBob> But now many nations are gathered against you. They say, "Let her be defiled, let our eyes gloat over Zion!" (Micah 4:11 NIV)

[20:11] <called_out-VHL> The World Trade Collation.

[20:11] <Jerry-VHL> Toward the end when God is going to tie up loose ends with Israel there will be a snare that shall come upon all those who dwell upon the face of the earth. Could that snare be oil and what would the consequences be if we were cut off. OUr reserve would only go so far.

[20:11] <HostBob> But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD; they do not understand his plan, he who gathers them like sheaves to the threshing floor. (Micah 4:12 NIV)

[20:11] <light2-VHL> I believe the UN is pretty close to implementing the one world government

[20:11] <Grace-VHL> Delta...Not unless it gains recognition and quickly at that..

[20:11] <HostBob> "Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion, for I will give you horns of iron; I will give you hoofs of bronze and you will break to pieces many nations." You will devote their ill-gotten gains to the LORD, their wealth to the Lord of all the earth. (Micah 4:13 NIV)

[20:12] <HostBob> Look at those verses...

[20:12] <Grace-VHL> Amen Bob!

[20:12] <HostBob> very appropriate for today

[20:12] <light2-VHL> and many American Icon Business's are supporting it

[20:12] <HostBob> "many nations" (the UN perhaps)

[20:12] <called_out-VHL> The World Trade Collation will take control of the economy.

[20:12] <farrell-VHL> 2Thanks, Bob, you've suggested another study for me now. Love it:)

[20:13] <light2-VHL> It is already set up, all they need to do is take over now

[20:13] <HostBob> They want to "gloat" over Israel - and lustly look at her territory

[20:13] <HostBob> lustfully

[20:13] <HostBob> BUT

[20:13] <Grace-VHL> One world gov't is going to come about by the works of man..and G-d may allow it as he allowed Pharaoh to execute dominance over Israel for a time...but then, well we all know what happened..

[20:13] <Shiloh42-VHL> They say that the UN wants to take over in Sept

[20:13] <HostBob> See what God has in mind? :)

[20:13] <HostBob> But they do not know the thoughts of the LORD; they do not understand his plan!

[20:13] <Delta-VHL> Amen

[20:14] <called_out-VHL> Amen

[20:14] <HostBob> he who gathers them (the nations) like sheaves to the threshing floor.

[20:14] <Jerry-VHL> Amen

[20:14] <light2-VHL> The church is going to go thru a major cleansing

[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> 12Im sure glad the Lord knows what the devil is up to

[20:14] <Jerry-VHL> Yes Lord

[20:14] <called_out-VHL> And what about the Religious summit coming up in August...one world religion?

[20:14] <HostBob> Threshing floors were used for what?

[20:14] <pattycake-VHL> the armies are getting ready for something in Sept.

[20:14] <Delta-VHL> Beating chaff from wheat

[20:14] <Jerry-VHL> They shall all begin to understand

[20:14] <light2-VHL> to separate the wheat from the chaff

[20:14] <Kathy-VHL> 12it is all coming together

[20:14] <HostBob> Crushing the grain with a "threshing sledge" - that cattle pulled

[20:14] <HostBob> and stomped on the grain

[20:14] <mkiser-VHL> 13seperation

[20:15] <HostBob> "Rise and thresh, O Daughter of Zion, for I will give you horns of iron; I will give you hoofs of bronze and you will break to pieces many nations."

[20:15] <HostBob> "hoofs of bronze"

[20:15] <farrell-VHL> 2where is that scheduled, called out? the summit in August?

[20:15] <light2-VHL> But it is upsetting me that no one is bothering to warn believers in America

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[20:15] <Delta-VHL> light2, some believers in America don't want to hear the warning. :-(

[20:15] <called_out-VHL> At the UN, Aug 28 thru 30.. Trying to unite 12 different religions.

[20:16] <Shiloh42-VHL> Alot of believers dont want to listen

[20:16] <Jerry-VHL> Is not my WORD like as a fire which breaketh the rock in peices. Ref???

[20:16] <light2-VHL> They are too busy with the cares of "This Life"

[20:16] <called_out-VHL> Yes, Light, too busy running to and fro

[20:16] <HostBob> Let the prophet who has a dream tell his dream, but let the one who has my word speak it faithfully. For what has straw to do with grain?" declares the LORD. "Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? (jer 23:28-29)

[20:17] <Jerry-VHL> AMEN

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[20:17] <light2-VHL> I have called pastors all over, it hard to even get ahold of anyone

[20:17] <Shiloh42-VHL> My x pastor doesnt even want to deal with things and wont tell anyone anything

[20:17] <Jerry-VHL> Let those who have ears to hear

[20:17] <Delta-VHL> But we know to pray....

[20:17] <HostBob> Yes

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[20:17] <light2-VHL> And I would like to see a major Christian publications warn too

[20:17] <Grace-VHL> ok...did anyone else get bumped or was it just me...

[20:17] <HostBob> Just you, Grace, sorry :)

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[20:18] <HostBob> Welcome, Glory-Bound! And Janet!

[20:18] <Jerry-VHL> Just you

[20:18] <farrell-VHL> 2Praise God - our Pastor is teaching on "last things" now.

[20:18] <Shiloh42-VHL> Jack Van Impe is good to read

[20:18] <Grace-VHL> ahhhhh.....am I getting picked on here?....lol....

[20:18] <light2-VHL> Well the time is short,,,,,,,,, we must redeem it

[20:18] <Glory-Bound> hi bob

[20:18] <Grace-VHL> amen light...

[20:18] <Delta-VHL> :-) Shalom Glory

[20:18] <Delta-VHL> :-) Shalom Janet

[20:18] <Grace-VHL> redeeming the time....meaning to use our oportunities..to prevent further loses..

[20:18] <called_out-VHL> Farrell, Ours too. We had a wonderful study last night. On Romans 8 and 9. Wonderful.

[20:18] <light2-VHL> Most I talk to say its doom and gloom prophecy

[20:18] <HostBob> Hey, as a result of some ideas from Thursdays chat with Stan....

[20:19] <Grace-VHL> light...what do you mean?

[20:19] <HostBob> plans are being made for a "Virtual March for Israel"

[20:19] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Hello, I was here earlier but was disconnected

[20:19] <HostBob> see the VHL forum for discussions and planning!

[20:19] <called_out-VHL> Welcome back JanetLeigh

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[20:19] <farrell-VHL> 2Shalom Janet and Glory:)

[20:19] <light2-VHL> I mean they don't want to hear what is going on

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[20:20] <Grace-VHL> yes, this is so very sad to witness...but they that are in the world cannot discern things of the spirit...

[20:20] <light2-VHL> What is virtual march Bob?

[20:20] <HostBob> Light, that's strange, isn't it, since a large portion of the Bible deals with events yet future?

[20:20] <Kathy-VHL> I had a link to that summit site I will try to find it again and post it here for yall

[20:20] <JanetLeigh-VHL> I want to hear what is going on...when I left Bob was talking about the gov. how does this line up with prophesy?

[20:20] <Delta-VHL> Mathew 10:14 may apply to those who will not hear...?

[20:20] <HostBob> Light, it is an event where we are attempting to get large numbers of Christians to express support for Israel

[20:20] <farrell-VHL> 2Wonderful idea Bob!!

[20:21] <light2-VHL> The Lord will have to rally those He wakes up

[20:21] <Grace-VHL> Also, it is hopefully going to be an event to teach why G-d's Divine Decree's concerning Israel cannot be invalidated..

[20:21] <light2-VHL> That has been my prayer, Lord God wake the people up

[20:21] <HostBob> Janet, in the big picture, God is using all of these events (like He has done so many times in the past) to bring Israel to the realization that they must repent and trust in Him

[20:21] <farrell-VHL> 2God has His reasons for getting all of us together. If we pray and ask, He will give us the wisdom to know what to do and how to do it:)

[20:22] <HostBob> rather than in false promises of "peace"

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[20:22] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Is it prohpesy that the US will not support Israel?

[20:22] <HostBob> Yes, Farrell :)

[20:22] <light2-VHL> There are many companies supportting the UN Millenium peace that are against evangelical preaching

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[20:23] <HostBob> Janet, it seems to indicate that ALL of the nations will have abandoned Israel..

[20:23] <HostBob> for example...

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[20:23] <light2-VHL> Bank of America gave the nccj 1 million dollars to further its agenda

[20:23] <light2-VHL> Which is to stop the preaching of the gospel

[20:23] <Jerry-VHL> God will pour out His spirit at the time of the end and He will give His people and understanding.

[20:23] <called_out-VHL> It seems that everyone is against evangelical preaching. Christians are the most disliked group of people in America today.

[20:23] <HostBob> In Isaiah 63, which is the Messiah's post-battle interview...

[20:23] <Grace-VHL> light...and many shall fall supporting the Works of the L-rd...but all those martyred for the Word of the L-rd shall receive the rewards of the L-rd..what could really be better than that...

[20:23] <Kathy-VHL> Bob how do I paste in here I forgot

[20:23] <HostBob> He says...

[20:24] <HostBob> "I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing.

[20:24] <HostBob> For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redemption has come. (Isaiah 63:3-4 NIV)

[20:24] <HostBob> No one from the nations

[20:24] <Shiloh42-VHL> If you listen to New Agers and alot of the UN things , to alot of people that dont know whats going on , it sounds good

[20:24] <HostBob> to support Israel

[20:24] <light2-VHL> But the Religion and ecology page of the Strategic Partership is very bad, they specifically say Jews and Christians can't get along in their system

[20:25] <HostBob> Amen, Grace!!!

[20:25] <light2-VHL> So we will both have to be eliminated in their estimation

[20:25] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Wow, thanks Bob, I will study that further...

[20:25] <HostBob> Yes, Jerry

[20:25] <HostBob> Isa 63:1-6 is a fascinating dialogue...

[20:26] <HostBob> as if a report is interviewing the Messiah who has just finished the battle

[20:26] <farrell-VHL> 2Light, what is their attitude toward Muslims? Do they consider them a problem like they do Christians and Jews?

[20:26] <Kathy-VHL> www.millenniumpeacesummit.org/faithsframe.html

[20:26] <HostBob> asking "who is this"

[20:26] <Grace-VHL> Does anyone know that as we speak Gary Graham is facing a delay in his execution and the New Black Panthers are parading the streets in protest with rifles...not trying to change the subject but it reveals the true dangers in our country and how liberties of evil are gaining acceptance..

[20:26] <HostBob> and "why are your garments red"

[20:26] <Grace-VHL> brb....

[20:26] <light2-VHL> Study the strategic parternerships links

[20:27] <JanetLeigh-VHL> why, Bob

[20:27] <Shiloh42-VHL> Jacque Cousto (?) wanted to elimenate 35,00 people a day from earth

[20:27] <light2-VHL> VERY inlightening

[20:27] <HostBob> His garments are red with blood, the blood of the nations that fought against Him

[20:27] <light2-VHL> Well they join islam with the rest of religions, but don't know what they will do with the radical muslims

[20:27] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Isa. is a difficult book for me

[20:28] <HostBob> this is the future "day of vengeance" v 4

[20:28] <HostBob> It's my fav, Janet :)

[20:28] <JanetLeigh-VHL> there lies the reason He brought me here...:-)

[20:29] <HostBob> :) well, we have a number of people here who know the Lord and the Scriptures...

[20:29] <HostBob> so ask away :)

[20:29] <farrell-VHL> 2Isn't God awsome, Janet?

[20:29] <Grace-VHL> The radical Muslims will have the same choice as everyone else who bucks the system of G-d....be humble, learn, and be willing to give up the doctrinal errors or else..

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[20:30] <HostBob> Welcome, Christian!

[20:30] <Grace-VHL> Don't mean to sound so flippant here..however, there is a reason the Messiah will need to rule with a rod of iron...

[20:30] <Delta-VHL> What about other nations? Muslims are not the only religion that does not recognize God as wel do

[20:30] <Jerry-VHL> When the Scriptural Message is delivered to the nations, they will have to make choices based on the Word. This is God's way to give a warning first.

[20:31] <Delta-VHL> But aren't we the ones to deliver that message?

[20:31] <Jerry-VHL> This gospel of the kingdom must be preached again!!!

[20:31] <Grace-VHL> Any nation that refuses to come to humility and Praise the Works of the L-rds doing will suffer plagues so to speak and then..if still they refuse...well....

[20:31] <Kathy-VHL> are you refering to the two witnesses Jery

[20:31] <HostBob> Here is something it say about the "nations" during the Kingdom of the Messiah....

[20:31] <HostBob> Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:16 NIV)

[20:31] <HostBob> If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. (Zechariah 14:17 NIV)

[20:31] <HostBob> If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:18 NIV)

[20:32] <Jerry-VHL> I am refering to Revelations so comes the word revelations.

[20:32] <HostBob> This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zechariah 14:19 NIV)

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[20:32] <Grace-VHL> Delta...we are called to be instant in season out of season..always ready to give a reason for the hope that is in us..and what is an element of this hope...TRUTH! G-d's Truth...not mans...

[20:32] <JanetLeigh-VHL> in Isa.1:13 Bob could you address that for me...the solemn meeting, new moons and sabbaths etc.

[20:32] <HostBob> Sure, Janet....

[20:32] <Jerry-VHL> I believe it is the two witnesses that will bring this message to the nations and they will be most hated

[20:32] <HostBob> I'll start back at v 11....

[20:33] <Delta-VHL> I agree, Grace, but are we doing that? I was expressing that concern

[20:33] <Kathy-VHL> I agree Jerry

[20:33] <Grace-VHL> Delta....some are...some arn't....

[20:33] <HostBob> in chapter one, Isaiah is preaching against empty, ritual religion with no heart for God

[20:33] <HostBob> "The multitude of your sacrifices-- what are they to me?" says the LORD. "I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. (Isaiah 1:11 NIV)

[20:33] <HostBob> He says, I don't need your sacrifices and religious offerings if you don't really love me from the heart

[20:33] <Grace-VHL> I agree as well Jerry...The two witness will be looked upon as tormentors because they will not back down...they will strike at the heart of the many false doctrines of people..

[20:34] <HostBob> When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you, this trampling of my courts? (Isaiah 1:12 NIV)

[20:34] <HostBob> And He say, that their apparent eagerness to be in the Temple is useless

[20:34] <Grace-VHL> Jerry..

[20:34] <HostBob> Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations-- I cannot bear your evil assemblies. (Isaiah 1:13 NIV)

[20:34] <HostBob> Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts my soul hates. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them. (Isaiah 1:14 NIV)

[20:35] <HostBob> And He says that their assemblies and holidays and festivals are meaningless and burdensome to Him unless they repent

[20:35] <Grace-VHL> People don't like to be put into a place where they have to abandon their pride...The nations rejoice over the death of these two witness and send gifts...Imagine that...these two witness will indeed blow the fire of the L-rd out of their mouths..

[20:36] <JanetLeigh-VHL> unless they repent? If they repent, they turn away from them?

[20:36] <Jerry-VHL> They will be hated of Jews, Christians, Muslims

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[20:36] <HostBob> He was not telling them to stop observing the holy days, but to do it with a clean heart

[20:37] <Delta-VHL> yes

[20:37] <Kathy-VHL> mot true christians tho Jerry

[20:37] <HostBob> speaking to the people of those days

[20:37] <Jerry-VHL> Yes Bob

[20:37] <Grace-VHL> Interestinly it makes alot of sense that they are hated by the world's 3 main religions...These witness's will speak against the false doctrines within each religion...

[20:37] <Jerry-VHL> Yes, many Christian will not want to support Israel.

[20:37] <Grace-VHL> This will not make people happy...

[20:37] <Delta-VHL> Ok, I am sorry, but I am lost

[20:37] <Delta-VHL> Are we talking of Isaiah here?

[20:38] <HostBob> Yes, Delta? (hands her a map) :)

[20:38] <Kathy-VHL> not true Christians tho they will know who they are

[20:38] <HostBob> yes, Isaiah 1

[20:38] <Jerry-VHL> Depends on what conversation your following

[20:38] <HostBob> and other things :)

[20:38] <Grace-VHL> Delta..I think we have a couple of issues going here..

[20:38] <HostBob> multi-thread chat room - hang in there Delta :)

[20:38] <Grace-VHL> lol....

[20:38] <farrell-VHL> 2Delta, Grace and Jerry and discussing Revelation (what chapter, guys?)

[20:39] <Grace-VHL> ok so Jerry....These two witness's will bring forth the pure and undefiled word of the L-rd...They shall empty themselves of the golden oil...

[20:39] <Kathy-VHL> about the 2 witnesses

[20:39] <Jerry-VHL> Remember the believers who ask the Lord to let us in, and Jesus told them I don't know you. Yet they did many wonderfuls works in His name

[20:39] <JanetLeigh-VHL> I'm sorry, I might have gotten Bob off track...:-(

[20:39] <Delta-VHL> Janet, I think Bob is ok! LOL

[20:39] <HostBob> No, not at all Janet - that's ok - we typically have several topics going at once :)

[20:39] <Kathy-VHL> Yes but they were not the true chrstians

[20:39] <Grace-VHL> They are the two olive tree's standing by the G-d of the whole earth....that is awesome...standing by the G-d of the whole earth...They have not been deluded or snared by the many world religions...

[20:39] <farrell-VHL> 2No, Janet, I was learning just as you were, thanks:)

[20:40] <Jerry-VHL> Yes but they professed to be.

[20:40] <Grace-VHL> I believe it's chapter 11..but...let me double check...

[20:40] <Kathy-VHL> right

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[20:40] <Kathy-VHL> ok we are on the same track now Jerry just wanted to clarify that

[20:41] <Jerry-VHL> Many shall come in His name and decieve the simple, but they that do know their God shall shine as lights

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> we need to call the true believers the church so we dont confuse

[20:41] <Grace-VHL> The simple man believes everything...but the prudent look well to their going...

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[20:41] <HostBob> I was reading the other day about Elijah preceding the Messiah.....

[20:41] <Jerry-VHL> Those who turn against Israel and the Work of God are in Danger of knowing the God they claim to serve.

[20:41] <Kathy-VHL> thats right

[20:42] <Grace-VHL> Jerry..could you rephrase that...

[20:42] <HostBob> Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah does come first, and restores all things.

[20:42] <Jerry-VHL> I'm lucky that I can type little lone rephrase.

[20:42] <HostBob> I wonder what that means?

[20:42] <HostBob> he "restores all things" prior to Messiah returning?

[20:42] <called_out-VHL> I wonder too Bob

[20:42] <Grace-VHL> ok..I'll let that one slide...

[20:42] <called_out-VHL> Any idea?

[20:43] <Jerry-VHL> I mean not knowing the God they serve, Is that better?

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[20:43] <HostBob> Well, "restoring" in the Scriptures often deals with Israel

[20:43] <HostBob> but I really don't know... anyone have any ideas?

[20:43] <Delta-VHL> Restores the hearts of the people?

[20:43] <Grace-VHL> Interesting...the two witnesses have a fire that proceeds out of their mouth..Fire=undiluted Word of G-d....pure...=golden oil..

[20:43] <called_out-VHL> Hmm

[20:43] <HostBob> Yes, Delta, that's what Malachi said, right?

[20:43] <Delta-VHL> Yes

[20:44] <Grace-VHL> Yes...todah..

[20:44] <HostBob> Last 2 verse of the Tanach...

[20:44] <HostBob> "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes.

[20:44] <HostBob> He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."

[20:44] <Jerry-VHL> I truly believe revival for the Church is directly tied into Israel

[20:44] <HostBob> Yes, Jerry?

[20:44] <farrell-VHL> 2How is that, Jerry?

[20:44] <Grace-VHL> absolutely Jerry...really how could it not be...we are called to become one new man..jew/gentile..

[20:45] <Grace-VHL> to attempt revial outside of the root...well that would be like expecting a plant to grow with out the root supporting it..

[20:46] <dave-VHL> the two witnesses will be telling the truth about the true father and also the false Christ who will be proclaiming himself as Jesus

[20:46] <HostBob> A rare lull in VHL prophecy chat :)

[20:46] <Jerry-VHL> God is calling us to unity in spirit and truth, and to overlook the overwhelming Love has for Israel would be to leave out a major aspect of His Healing process for the World.

[20:46] <Grace-VHL> we are branches and the root supports the branches...for the any church to believe true revial will come outside of G-d's predestined works with Israel is to be self deceiving...

[20:46] <HostBob> Yes, Dave

[20:47] <Delta-VHL> Dave! Aren't you the Dave that just got back from Israel?

[20:47] <HostBob> Amen, Jerry!

[20:47] <Grace-VHL> love is the bond...but what then is true love...G-d is true love..his truth..and his word...

[20:48] <Delta-VHL> May I bring up a subject regarding prophecy ?

[20:48] <HostBob> ok - listen to this shocking piece of news...

[20:48] <dave-VHL> Sorry Delta, that's not me.

[20:48] <Grace-VHL> that is the bond...we will see the face of G-d in awesome measure when we in spirit, heart, soul, and thought understand the works of the L-rd concerning Israel..

[20:48] <Delta-VHL> Ok, Dave, sorry!

[20:48] <Grace-VHL> ok...shoot bob...

[20:48] <HostBob> (IsraelWire-6/22) Justice Minister Yossi Beilin on Wednesday told the Security Cabinet that he has no objections to seeing a Palestinian flag atop of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem if the result would be true peace.

[20:48] <Delta-VHL> :-:-)

[20:48] <HostBob> Can you believe it?

[20:48] <farrell-VHL> 2NO

[20:49] <light2-VHL> Yes I believe it and more

[20:49] <Delta-VHL> The Mayor of Jerusalem is not too happy about that!

[20:49] <Grace-VHL> Yes..I can believe it....the desolation...the abomination I believe is the Dome of the Rock sitting on the Place Holy to the L-rd...

[20:49] <called_out-VHL> What about the Waqf's excavations of the temple mount? Is it worse now that previously?

[20:49] <Delta-VHL> Yes, it is called.....

[20:49] <farrell-VHL> 2What could possibly make him think "true peace" would result?

[20:49] <light2-VHL> Madelaine Albright just annouced that the rogue nations can no longer be considered rogue

[20:49] <HostBob> Yes, Called_out - very bad

[20:50] <dave-VHL> My question is where are all the Christians going to be when the two witnesses are prolaiming the truth?

[20:50] <light2-VHL> such as Kadafe (sp)

[20:50] <Delta-VHL> Called? Have you heard more lately?

[20:50] <called_out-VHL> It makes me trimble to imagine destroying all that history and precious past

[20:50] <Grace-VHL> depends on what type of Christian you are speaking about Dave..

[20:50] <HostBob> Dave, many will be martyred

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[20:50] <Jerry-VHL> I must go, God bless all and pray for the '2 million Virtual Prayer March' this could be a true awakening point for the Church/

[20:50] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Jerry!

[20:50] <HostBob> Jerry, thanks for stopping by!

[20:51] <called_out-VHL> Got an urgent email today about the destruction today.

[20:51] <HostBob> And for your contributions!

[20:51] <HostBob> to the forums

[20:51] <Delta-VHL> yeah, me too, Called

[20:51] <Grace-VHL> When you shall see the abomination standing in the Holy Place...What is the Holy Place...The place of the Temple.....

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[20:51] <light2-VHL> God Bless Jerry

[20:51] <Grace-VHL> Jerry....leaving so soon...

[20:51] <dave-VHL> Is it possible that many will also be deceived and bow a knee to the wrong Christ?

[20:51] <called_out-VHL> It is so hard to imagaine what goes on there. I wish I could go and see for myself.

[20:52] <HostBob> When I hear of what "Justice Minister" Belein said...

[20:52] <called_out-VHL> Dave, I believe that will happen.

[20:52] <Grace-VHL> called out....you mean the temple...?

[20:52] <Delta-VHL> Dave, I am not Bob, but I think the Bible says it is possible

[20:52] <light2-VHL> The abomination is here already

[20:52] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Dave, not only possible but is prophesy, me thinks

[20:52] <light2-VHL> The abomination that makes desolate

[20:52] <light2-VHL> Idolatry is abomination

[20:52] <HostBob> it reminds me of this...

[20:52] <called_out-VHL> When I said i believe it will happen I was talking about bowing to the wrong Christ.

[20:52] <Grace-VHL> light...yes it is..I believe it is the Dome of the Rock..

[20:52] <HostBob> "The day of the LORD is near for all nations. As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head. (Obadiah 1:15 NIV)

[20:53] <HostBob> Just as you drank on my holy hill, so all the nations will drink continually; they will drink and drink and be as if they had never been. (Obadiah 1:16 NIV)

[20:53] <light2-VHL> and when anyone, nation country, city forget God , they become Desolate

[20:53] <HostBob> But on Mount Zion will be deliverance; it will be holy, and the house of Jacob will possess its inheritance. (Obadiah 1:17 NIV)

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[20:53] <light2-VHL> No Grace much bigger than that

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[20:53] <farrell-VHL> 2That's interesting, Grace (Dome of Rock), I have never heard or considered that.

[20:53] <Delta-VHL> I agree Light2

[20:53] <light2-VHL> It is the UN making one world religion

[20:53] <Grace-VHL> What do you mean light...

[20:54] <light2-VHL> And you will either take mark or die for faith

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[20:54] <dave-VHL> Host Bob, please identify the house of Jacob

[20:54] <Delta-VHL> I don't know if it's the UN or not, but the Bible says it will be the Beast

[20:54] <light2-VHL> Read Chapter 12 and 13 of Deut

[20:54] <Grace-VHL> Think about it...right now the Temple site is draped in idolatry...To think that the place designated to the L-rd bears the symbol of the False Prophet Mohammed..

[20:54] <HostBob> The Dome of the Rock is an abomination, but I personally don't think that is the "abomination that causes desolation"

[20:54] <light2-VHL> The Beast is the system and the man running system

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[20:54] <Delta-VHL> yes, Bob

[20:55] <light2-VHL> The whole world is going to go after the peace the UN is offering

[20:55] <Grace-VHL> Is the temple of the L-rd there...no..therefore isn't it desolate...?

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[20:55] <light2-VHL> And the ones that do not will be exterminated

[20:55] <HostBob> Dave, when the Messiah Jesus returns, and reigns from Zion, He will "restore the Kingdom to Israel"

[20:55] <light2-VHL> When the rejects the One true God who made it, it will become desolate

[20:55] <light2-VHL> Ps 2

[20:55] <Delta-VHL> Bob? More on the Temple Mount, do you think it interesting they want to tear down the Western Gate?

[20:56] <Grace-VHL> It is also a desolation for many reasons...one main one being it smacks in the Place G-d has chosen to place his name...not to mention the number's of people flocking to the Dome to pray falsely..

[20:56] <light2-VHL> When the world

[20:56] <HostBob> Yes, Delta, that was interesting

[20:56] <HostBob> tell us why :)

[20:56] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Not the whole world Light:-)

[20:56] <light2-VHL> No not true believers

[20:56] <Delta-VHL> Doesn't the Western Gate belong in Israel "territory?"

[20:56] <light2-VHL> But many many people

[20:56] <Grace-VHL> Also,...The east gate...The Messiah is going to enter the east Gate...but who is there armed and doesn't allow anyone in...Those who support the Islamic religion...

[20:56] <Delta-VHL> And would that not provoke a religious confrontation/war?

[20:57] <dave-VHL> Host Bob, are you referring to the tribes of Israel or the nation of Israel?

[20:57] <Delta-VHL> Grace, I do not think anyone can stop Yeshua from coming in those gates! :-)

[20:57] <called_out-VHL> Praise God Delta

[20:57] <HostBob> Dave, that's a subject a little too lengthy to expound in a chat room setting - best left for the forums :)

[20:57] <pattycake-VHL> very true

[20:57] <Grace-VHL> Delta...your right..but their trying now arn't they....

[20:58] <Grace-VHL> And this will create d

[20:58] <Delta-VHL> No, Grace, I don't they they realize what they are doing in that regard

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[20:58] <Delta-VHL> Bob? What are your insights?

[20:58] <Grace-VHL> Did Herod seek to Kill the Messiah because he had been forwarned of the birth of the King?

[20:58] <HostBob> On what?

[20:59] <Grace-VHL> Did Moses have to be hidden to prevent his death?

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[20:59] <farrell-VHL> 2Bob, will you address the Messiah's "restoring the Kingdom to Israel" and how the church fits in on a forum?

[20:59] <Delta-VHL> On the armed guards at the East Gate

[20:59] <Grace-VHL> Men who scheme upon their beds as the scripture says are wiser than we know..

[20:59] <Delta-VHL> Yes, but this is not a baby....this is THE King of Glory. He is more than we can imagine! :-)

[20:59] <HostBob> Sure, Farrell :) that's a very tough subject, but I'll give it a shot

[20:59] <farrell-VHL> 2thanks:)

[21:00] <Grace-VHL> The scipture says the devil know's he has but a short time...Arafat is on who's side...?not the L-rds...

[21:00] <Grace-VHL> Be ye wise as serpents and gentle as doves..

[21:00] <light2-VHL> Notice you never see serpents very often, they stay hidden in the rocks

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[21:00] <Delta-VHL> lol

[21:00] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Bob, what do you make of the news you spoke of?

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[21:01] <Grace-VHL> Who has know the Depths of Satan...The Messiah says not all know...

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[21:01] <HostBob> Janet, we know that the Temple Mount will increasingly become the focal point of world attention...

[21:01] <Delta-VHL> Grace, I am not trying to be controversial, but I do not know where that is. Can you please tell me?

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[21:02] <HostBob> as different forces attempt to gain control of the place where God has said that His name will dwell forever..

[21:02] <HostBob> and the Messiah Jesus will reign

[21:02] <Grace-VHL> Delta...that's ok...where the Spirit of the L-rd is there is liberty...where what is?

[21:02] <Delta-VHL> (listening to Bob....wait, ok? :-) )

[21:02] <JanetLeigh-VHL> yes, it certainly is more in focus today than ever before...

[21:02] <Grace-VHL> ok...

[21:03] <HostBob> Yes, and will be even more so in the future, as we know

[21:03] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Will the Dome come down?

[21:03] <HostBob> The Vatican wants it

[21:03] <HostBob> the Palestinians want it

[21:03] <HostBob> the UN wants it

[21:03] <HostBob> the Masons want it

[21:03] <JanetLeigh-VHL> They can have the Dome

[21:03] <light2-VHL> Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

[21:03] <HostBob> to mention a few :)

[21:03] <called_out-VHL> In the email I received, it said that the Waqf is working in open day not even trying to hide the destruction.

[21:03] <HostBob> yes, it will Janet

[21:04] <light2-VHL> 2 Cor 3:17-18

[21:04] <Delta-VHL> Amen., Bob

[21:04] <JanetLeigh-VHL> how soon do you think?

[21:04] <HostBob> Not soon enough for me :)

[21:04] <light2-VHL> The one world church wants it too !!

[21:04] <HostBob> Yes, Light

[21:04] <Grace-VHL> all these listed people want what ...the Dome...?

[21:04] <HostBob> they want the Temple Mount

[21:04] <JanetLeigh-VHL> me either

[21:04] <HostBob> and Jerusalem

[21:04] <Delta-VHL> I think the Temple Mount

[21:04] <Delta-VHL> oops, sorry

[21:05] <Grace-VHL> oh...they really can't have it cause the Temple is going there...but...they can if they chose haul away the rubble...

[21:05] <light2-VHL> This current pope is very ill and about ready to go

[21:05] <HostBob> There are spiritual enemy forces behind all this, remember - it's no coincidence

[21:05] <called_out-VHL> But the rubble is precious to the Jewish people

[21:05] <Delta-VHL> How much will the Knesset take before they begin to stop and see what is going on?

[21:05] <Delta-VHL> Yes, Bob!

[21:05] <Grace-VHL> oh yes...Jerusalem...When will they come to pray for the"peace" of Jerusalem instead of a "piece" of Jerusalem...

[21:05] <Delta-VHL> Yes, it is Called out

[21:05] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Yes, that is a big part isn't it Bob

[21:06] <Grace-VHL> I meant the rubble of the Dome...That isn't precious to them is it...

[21:06] <Delta-VHL> We wrestle not against flesh and blood

[21:06] <light2-VHL> No one except God will be able to change what is going to happen in Jerusalem

[21:06] <HostBob> Yes ... Satan does all he can to thwart the rule of the Lord

[21:06] <HostBob> to no avail, ultimately

[21:06] <Delta-VHL> But.....God Wins!

[21:06] <Grace-VHL> put against spiritual wickedness in high places..

[21:06] <light2-VHL> Amen

[21:06] <Grace-VHL> amen light...

[21:07] <light2-VHL> But much blood shed

[21:07] <HostBob> God laughs at their puny attempts to overthrow His rule

[21:07] <called_out-VHL> You are right Grace. Yes Delta God Wins, it says so in the back of the Book!

[21:07] <light2-VHL> So is not pretty sight

[21:07] <Grace-VHL> yes, the foolishness of G-d is greater than the wisdom of men..

[21:07] <Soterion-VHL> When do you think that Isreal will be attacked in from the North?

[21:07] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Soterion!

[21:07] <light2-VHL> We are to be watchmen on the wall

[21:07] <Delta-VHL> (good question)

[21:07] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Also, who is it that attacks Israel from the North?

[21:07] <light2-VHL> To warn the wicked

[21:07] <HostBob> You mean Ezekiel 38&39 Soterion?

[21:08] <called_out-VHL> Hi Soterion

[21:08] <light2-VHL> God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked

[21:08] <Soterion-VHL> Yes that is right!

[21:08] <HostBob> There are 2 schools of thought on when that will happen, the Russian invasion

[21:08] <Soterion-VHL> Hello

[21:08] <HostBob> (along with a number of other nations)

[21:08] <Grace-VHL> So then what must we all pray fervently to do in light of all these impending events? Allow ourselves to be purifed...He who has this hope in Him purifies himself..

[21:08] <HostBob> some see it before or at the beginning of the tribulation period...

[21:09] <HostBob> others see it at part of the Armegeddon scenario when the Lord returns

[21:09] <light2-VHL> Thats right Grace

[21:09] <HostBob> Amen, Grace!

[21:09] <Grace-VHL> light...so pray for me...and I for you if that is ok to assume your not perfected...made whole yet....

[21:09] <Delta-VHL> Bob? Is it possible from what we are seeing this could happen this year?

[21:09] <farrell-VHL> 2Bob, what about the temple in Ezek. 40-44, is that before or after the Messiah?

[21:10] <HostBob> I don't know about the timing of things, Delta

[21:10] <farrell-VHL> 2comes?

[21:10] <Delta-VHL> Me either! :-)

[21:10] <light2-VHL> In Christ is our wholeness

[21:10] <HostBob> Anyone want to take a shot at Farrells question?

[21:10] <JanetLeigh-VHL> We can't know the exact timing but isn't that one reason for prophesy so we will have a clue?

[21:10] <Soterion-VHL> I see, so with events happening like they are do you see the rapture coming in our life time?

[21:10] <Delta-VHL> I've heard two versions of that too, Farrell

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[21:11] <HostBob> I believe the latter part of the book of Ezekiel is talking about the Jerusalem and the Temple in the Kingdom of the Messiah, so after - that's my take on it anyway

[21:11] <HostBob> Yes, Janet :)

[21:11] <Devora1Devash> hello...

[21:11] <farrell-VHL> 2Well, even if we don't know when, we know it is for sure:)

[21:11] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Devora!

[21:11] <Soterion-VHL> Amen! ;-)

[21:11] <HostBob> Could very well, Soterion

[21:12] <Devora1Devash> nice to get here finally

[21:12] <HostBob> Welcome, Devora!

[21:12] <HostBob> Glad to have you!

[21:12] <Devora1Devash> Shalom Delta,,this is awesome

[21:12] <HostBob> What does your name mean?

[21:12] <Devora1Devash> ME?

[21:12] <HostBob> yeah :)

[21:12] <Devora1Devash> Honey Bee..

[21:12] <Devora1Devash> :)

[21:12] <HostBob> ahhh :) nice name :)

[21:12] <light2-VHL> God has a certain pattern of holiness for His temple

[21:12] <Grace-VHL> Are you from the land of milk and honey...lol.....

[21:13] <Devora1Devash> I did not know this place was here..thru talk city

[21:13] <light2-VHL> And what does not measure up will be cleansed

[21:13] <light2-VHL> And what will not be cleansed will be destroyed

[21:13] <Delta-VHL> Oh, well, Welcome Devora!

[21:13] <Soterion-VHL> During the rapture were do you see the two witness's entering in?

[21:13] <Devora1Devash> No well yes and NO...I am from Texas...

[21:13] <Soterion-VHL> I mean the trib

[21:13] <JanetLeigh-VHL> So am I Devora

[21:13] <Grace-VHL> light...yes....it is perfectly designed..

[21:13] <Devora1Devash> I have been to Israel,,,in 96

[21:14] <HostBob> Soterion, I think the 2 witnesses are in the last 3 1/2 years just before Jesus returns

[21:14] <Grace-VHL> I believe the two witness will be here.....

[21:14] <light2-VHL> God is holy and He expects complete holiness of His people, which He will do if we submit to it

[21:14] <Devora1Devash> I have to figure out how to work this rig....are you on web or pcc?

[21:14] <Grace-VHL> when things are really bad.....

[21:14] <light2-VHL> You cannot serve God and mammon

[21:14] <HostBob> Devora, most of us are accessing this chat though www.virtualholyland.com

[21:14] <Devora1Devash> Hi Janet lee

[21:14] <HostBob> even though it is on Talk City

[21:14] <Grace-VHL> light...yes....and G-d has the most awesome unexpected ways of cleaning our filthy garments..

[21:14] <light2-VHL> and He will not allow any of us to have idols before Him

[21:15] <Devora1Devash> yes...and for somereason I ended up here

[21:15] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Hi, hope your not in Huntsville tonight...:-(

[21:15] <light2-VHL> the coveteous man is an idolator

[21:15] <HostBob> lucky you!

[21:15] <Devora1Devash> OH this is really great

[21:15] <HostBob> :)

[21:15] <Devora1Devash> OH why?...what is happenig there Janet?

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[21:15] <Grace-VHL> light...isn't it awesome the way G-d said he would sprinkle clean water on his people Israel after he brought them home...awesome just awesome..

[21:15] <JanetLeigh-VHL> They are getting ugly about the excusion of Gary Graham..some arrested already

[21:15] <HostBob> Amen, Grace!

[21:16] <Grace-VHL> His Mercy, Love, and Grace abounds...Our cups are overflowing....We drink and are never thirsty...

[21:16] <Devora1Devash> I have tried numerous times to log on with this place......OH really....I have a daughter who is aprison guard in Dallas

[21:16] <Grace-VHL> Janet...yes, did you see the New Black Panthers parading around with rifles?

[21:16] <HostBob> "'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. (Ezekiel 36:24 NIV) I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. (Ezekiel 36:25 NIV)I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. (Ezekiel 36:26 NIV)

[21:16] <Grace-VHL> Pretty scary when people can do that on the streets..

[21:17] <called_out-VHL> The whole world is getting scary!!!

[21:17] <Devora1Devash> IF things are bad in one location then there is a s hut down in the whole system in TX

[21:17] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Yes Grace I did, there is over 500 people there now

[21:17] <Grace-VHL> amen...and AMEN...and AMEN BOB!

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[21:17] <Delta-VHL> I love that part, Bob. Removing the heart of Stone and giving a heart of flesh

[21:17] <Devora1Devash> well well

[21:17] <HostBob> Yeah, just like He did with each of us

[21:17] <HostBob> when we put our faith in Jesus

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[21:17] <Delta-VHL> amen!

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[21:17] <called_out-VHL> amen

[21:17] <Soterion-VHL> Beside the Bible what would be a good book to read on the end time?

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[21:17] <farrell-VHL731> 2And He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow:) I agree, Grace, God is awesome!

[21:18] <Grace-VHL> No one seems to know if there are bullets in those rifles...I'll tell you if they execute Gary...I believe if there are bullets in the rifles they are going to fly..

[21:18] <Devora1Devash> So who are the regulars in here?

[21:18] <HostBob> Any suggestions for Soterion?

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> Trying to keep up....

[21:18] <Devora1Devash> soterion?

[21:18] <humble_heart-VHL> 12Hello...and how is everybody...??

[21:18] <called_out-VHL> Soterion, Are we living in the end times, Tim Lahay, but it is just one opinion

[21:18] <light2-VHL> Foxes book of martrys

[21:18] <HostBob> Hello, Humble! Shalom!!!

[21:18] <farrell-VHL731> 2I must put this old grandma to bed soon, so thank all of you for a wonderful evening of fellowship. I am still learning and loving it:)

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> Gary, I usually turn to Bible commentaries to help

[21:18] <Devora1Devash> hello humble....

[21:18] <Grace-VHL> farrell...Thank G-d he doesn't change the rules midstream or His Son....

[21:18] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Humble!

[21:19] <HostBob> Night, Farrell! Shalom sister!!!

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Farrell?

[21:19] <Devora1Devash> how come some have the VHL behind there name?

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> Be Blessed!

[21:19] <called_out-VHL> Yes Delta, me too. You have to be careful not ot just get opinions

[21:19] <Grace-VHL> lila tov farrell...shalom...

[21:19] <HostBob> Because they got here from the VHL web page, Devora

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> It is good toI

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[21:19] <Delta-VHL> oops

[21:19] <Devora1Devash> and I did too

[21:19] <Delta-VHL> It is good to listen to more than one perspective, it helps round it out

[21:19] <Soterion-VHL> I really enjoy the Left Behind series, but I want something a little less entertaining and a little more factual!, Oh thanks for the suggestion!

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[21:19] <Devora1Devash> hummmm...well I dont know...

[21:20] <Devora1Devash> so where is everyone from?

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> Vernon McGee Commentaries are good ones

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[21:20] <Grace-VHL> I am from New York State..

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[21:20] <light2-VHL> Well don't be decieve into thinking that you won't suffer for the bearing the name of Christ

[21:20] <Grace-VHL> Hey Bob.....

[21:20] <Devora1Devash> ok you go there to get to Israel

[21:20] <called_out-VHL> Vernon McGee good and I have Mathew Henry

[21:20] <HostBob> Welcome Reyna!

[21:20] <HostBob> Yes Grace?

[21:20] <Delta-VHL> Yes, Called out

[21:21] <reynachill-VHL> hello

[21:21] <Grace-VHL> Is there something we can do about the chat space we type in...? either that or I need to get a magnifying glass....lol...

[21:21] <Devora1Devash> Segulah (the called out ones)

[21:21] <HostBob> I am in tampa Florida

[21:21] <david-VHL> hello folks and a big God Bless you ALL.

[21:21] <Devora1Devash> hello Bob

[21:21] <Devora1Devash> hello david

[21:21] <Soterion-VHL> I am in Nova Scotia!

[21:21] <Delta-VHL> Blesseing to you too Bob

[21:21] <Devora1Devash> wow really?

[21:21] <Devora1Devash> greetings from TEXAS

[21:21] <called_out-VHL> I am in the Ohio Valley, near Cincinnati

[21:21] <HostBob> Hmmmm I don't know, can you change the font size in your browser?

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[21:21] <Delta-VHL> <--St Louis MO area

[21:22] <Devora1Devash> ok...

[21:22] <david-VHL> los angeles

[21:22] <called_out-VHL> You can change font sige in options mgr.

[21:22] <reynachill-VHL> virginia

[21:22] <Devora1Devash> and everyone in here loves Israel?

[21:22] <HostBob> Thanks, Called :)

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> Ok, David. Are YOU the Dave that went to Israel?

[21:22] <Grace-VHL> Florida is so lovely Bob...The Palm tree's are so very beautiful...when I went to Florida the most important site for me was looking at all the Palm tree's..made me think of Jesus...Did you know the Palm tree originated in the Middle East...?

[21:22] <david-VHL> 6amen, devoera

[21:22] <HostBob> Yeah, Devora :)

[21:22] <called_out-VHL> Yes, we love Israel

[21:22] <Delta-VHL> <---Lover of Israel

[21:22] <Devora1Devash> hello reyna

[21:22] <Soterion-VHL> You bet!

[21:22] <light2-VHL> Soterion, here is good place to study greek, hebrew etc.

[21:22] <Devora1Devash> ME tooo.

[21:22] <light2-VHL> http://www.blueletterbible.org/index.html

[21:22] <Grace-VHL> EVERYONE I BELIEVE...

[21:22] <reynachill-VHL> yes indeed

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[21:23] <Devora1Devash> where do you study Hebrew around here?

[21:23] <Soterion-VHL> Thanks light :-)

[21:23] <HostBob> We love Israel because our Father loves Israel

[21:23] <Grace-VHL> Devorah...online or offline study?

[21:23] <Soterion-VHL> Amen

[21:23] <Grace-VHL> Amen!

[21:23] <Devora1Devash> amen Bob and New Jerusalem is our mother

[21:23] <Delta-VHL> Bob, and He has given us that love, I think....a definate Divine Assignment

[21:23] <Devora1Devash> onlince study..

[21:24] <HostBob> Yes, Delta :)

[21:24] <Grace-VHL> There are ton's of online study sites to learn hebrew...alot of messianic study sites..

[21:24] <JanetLeigh-VHL> I want to go to Israel, always have.

[21:24] <Devora1Devash> or either really on line....I did not know if there was a place that you guys got together and studied

[21:24] <HostBob> Then go, Janet :)

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[21:24] <Devora1Devash> but you can not access them all on the web tv

[21:24] <DonB-VHL> 14Shalom:-)

[21:24] <Delta-VHL> I hope to go in Sept.

[21:24] <HostBob> Welcome Marion, Don, and Levi!

[21:24] <called_out-VHL> Is it dangerous to go to Israel now?

[21:25] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Pray with me about that.

[21:25] <Devora1Devash> Feast ?

[21:25] <HostBob> Nah, called, just carry an UZI LOL

[21:25] <HostBob> no, it's not

[21:25] <light2-VHL> It only dangerous called out , if God has not instructed you to go

[21:25] <Grace-VHL> Janet...is there a particular reason you haven't gone yet?

[21:25] <Devora1Devash> I went when the Bus bombing were taking place

[21:25] <called_out-VHL> Can I get an Uzi in my purse?

[21:25] <HostBob> Stan and his crew at VHL have assured me that it is not

[21:25] <light2-VHL> We have to wait upon the Lord for directions

[21:25] <Grace-VHL> amen light..

[21:25] <HostBob> :)

[21:25] <Levi-VHL> Good Evening Everyone

[21:25] <Delta-VHL> Bob, I don't know about you, but I will have a HUGE angel there for me! :-)

[21:25] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Levi!

[21:25] <Devora1Devash> and when God says it is time to go well then that is the time...

[21:25] <Grace-VHL> shalom levi...

[21:25] <JanetLeigh-VHL> Yes, raising two children alone but now the last one is leaving...lol

[21:25] <light2-VHL> Shalom Levi

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> Amen, Devora

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[21:26] <Soterion-VHL> Shalom Levi

[21:26] <HostBob> :) A servant of God is indestructible until his or her mission on earth is complete :)

[21:26] <Grace-VHL> that's alot...so you will go when the L-rd moves your spirit and heart...yes?

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> Amen

[21:26] <Grace-VHL> Amen bob...

[21:26] <Devora1Devash> well I will come back soon...have to go for now...and has anyone tried to acess this place from talk city ?

[21:26] <called_out-VHL> amen:-)

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> (But we are not to tempt God)

[21:26] <HostBob> I am on from Talk City, Devora

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> Devorah?

[21:26] <Delta-VHL> ooops

[21:26] <Grace-VHL> amen delta..

[21:26] <HostBob> true, Delta

[21:27] <called_out-VHL> OH:-(

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> I wanna go in Sept! LOL

[21:27] <Devora1Devash> But Bob do you have to go thru VHL site to get in here?

[21:27] <Grace-VHL> ok....I am going to get going now...Shalom, Truth, Joy, Hope, and Love to you all in the Messiah....

[21:27] <HostBob> that's the normal way, yes, Devora

[21:27] <Devora1Devash> or can I go thru plain Talk city and get in here?

[21:27] <Levi-VHL> Bob when did you and Stan switch schedules?

[21:27] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Grace!

[21:27] <HostBob> Shalom to you Grace!

[21:27] <HostBob> This week, Levi

[21:27] <light2-VHL> God Bless Grace

[21:27] <called_out-VHL> Bye Grace:-)

[21:27] <HostBob> works out better for both our wives :)

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[21:28] <Devora1Devash> Thanks Bob...you are the Segulah in Adonai's eye

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> Devora, may I suggest you check out the Virtual Holyland website?

[21:28] <Levi-VHL> OH ok

[21:28] <Devora1Devash> yes I have,,,thanks!!!!

[21:28] <called_out-VHL> Bob, what? both wives?

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> Good! Be Blessed!

[21:28] <Soterion-VHL> This is a good night for me! :-)

[21:28] <Devora1Devash> it makes me homesick for Israel

[21:28] <light2-VHL> Have to go all, God keep you all and give you much wisdom in your lives.\

[21:28] <HostBob> :) Called :)

[21:28] <Devora1Devash> shalom

[21:28] <Delta-VHL> Awww, me too

[21:28] <called_out-VHL> Didn't know you had two wives.

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[21:28] <HostBob> Nope, He only lets me have one :)

[21:28] <DonB-VHL> 14good night light2

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[21:29] <HostBob> or should I say she :)

[21:29] <HostBob> LOL

[21:29] <called_out-VHL> As it should be

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> Light2, Shalom!

[21:29] <Levi-VHL> Good night light2

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[21:29] <Devora1Devash> on web tv..?

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[21:29] <DonB-VHL> 14hi Rexly

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> ROFL BOB!

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Don B!

[21:29] <HostBob> Welcome back Humble!

[21:29] <DonB-VHL> 14hi delta

[21:29] <Rexly-VHL> Hi everone

[21:29] <HostBob> you get tossed out/

[21:29] <HostBob> ?

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[21:29] <DonB-VHL> 14hi humble

[21:29] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Rexly

[21:30] <Levi-VHL> Hi Rexly

[21:30] <HostBob> From the news...

[21:30] <JanetLeigh-VHL> I'm going to say good night all, I am blessed to have been here with you all, and I will be back.

[21:30] <HostBob> United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Thursday told PLO Authority (PA) Chairman Yasser Arafat during their meeting in Ram'allah that he would call upon Israel to comply with Security Council resolution 338, calling for Israel to withdraw to the pre-June 1967 border.

[21:30] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Janet!

[21:30] <humble_heart-VHL> 12me..? no.....I went to check out another room...

[21:30] <HostBob> Good night Janet! Thanks for coming!! Shalom!

[21:30] <DonB-VHL> 14good night Janet

[21:31] <HostBob> that was from Israelwire

[21:31] <Levi-VHL> 6That is truely amazing

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[21:31] <called_out-VHL> I saw that Bob, how much weight does that statement carry?

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> Ok, the pre-June border is the "Auschwitz border?"

[21:31] <Marion-VHL> Hi everyone

[21:31] <Delta-VHL> Greetings and Shalom Marion! :-)

[21:31] <HostBob> It carries a lot of weight... it means the UN is taking aim at Israel

[21:32] <Levi-VHL> 6Hi Marion

[21:32] <humble_heart-VHL> 12hello marion

[21:32] <called_out-VHL> hey marion:-)

[21:32] <Marion-VHL> sorry my keys were locked somehow

[21:32] <HostBob> to try to force them to give up Jerusalem

[21:32] <called_out-VHL> Hmm...I see.

[21:32] <Delta-VHL> :-( Hope its better

[21:32] <HostBob> Delta, explain to everyone the meaning of the phrase

[21:32] <Delta-VHL> Bob...I really wonder if the matter is escalating more than we thought?

[21:32] <Levi-VHL> 6Where does th U. S. stand on that?

[21:32] <called_out-VHL> I wish we could fast forward six months to know what Barak does

[21:33] <Marion-VHL> How is everyone

[21:33] <HostBob> It is escalating, yes, and the sooner Israel realizes that they need to call out the Lord, the better

[21:33] <HostBob> to the Lord

[21:33] <humble_heart-VHL> 12fine marion....and you..?

[21:33] <Delta-VHL> OH, the "Auschwitz border"? Mainly, in a condensed sense, the border where they are concentrated and can be eliminated from the face of the earth by their enemies, from my understanding

[21:33] <HostBob> Right, Delta

[21:33] <Marion-VHL> Bob I heard that Barak got a vote of convidence today

[21:33] <Delta-VHL> Right on the border toward the north?

[21:33] <Levi-VHL> 6What is the mood of the common person?

[21:33] <HostBob> an indefensible border

[21:33] <Soterion-VHL> It has been nice chating with you all thank you for the advice. :-)

[21:34] <Delta-VHL> Soterion, please come back! Shalom!

[21:34] <Rexly-VHL> Whats the latist on Bibi?

[21:34] <HostBob> Marion, he juggled the coalition, keeping Shas in by bucking to their demands

[21:34] <called_out-VHL> Nice to see you Soterion:-)

[21:34] <HostBob> Shas came back in after Meretz backed out

[21:34] <HostBob> so his government is still standing for now

[21:34] <HostBob> have not heard anything much, Rexly

[21:34] <Delta-VHL> Bob, I am sorry, but I just realized something....

[21:35] <HostBob> See ya Soterion!!

[21:35] <HostBob> Thanks for coming!

[21:35] <HostBob> and participating!

[21:35] <HostBob> Shalom!

[21:35] <Levi-VHL> 6Bob what is the mood of the common man

[21:35] <Marion-VHL> what were their demands

[21:35] <HostBob> I'm not sure, Levi - that's a Stan question :)

[21:35] <Levi-VHL> 6Soory

[21:35] <HostBob> Marion, more money for their educational system, and more control over it

[21:35] <Levi-VHL> 6Sorry

[21:35] <Kathy-VHL> tell him what you told me about them Bob that will help I think

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[21:36] <HostBob> no problem, Levi - ask Him on the forum - I'm curious to know also

[21:36] <HostBob> Shas is the ultra orthodox party

[21:36] <Levi-VHL> 6OK

[21:36] <Delta-VHL> Levi, from what the news from Israel said, there were protests in Jerusalem, Gaza, and Samaria, Judeah

[21:36] <HostBob> has been gaining power and influence

[21:36] <Delta-VHL> (oops. sorry, Bob)

[21:36] <Levi-VHL> 6Thank you Delta

[21:37] <HostBob> Meretz is the liberal/secular party that is in favor of giving away land

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[21:37] <HostBob> yes, Delta? tell us

[21:37] <Marion-VHL> I can't understand how anyone there would favor that

[21:37] <Delta-VHL> I was referring to the "protests" on MOnday

[21:37] <HostBob> yes, Marion, hard to understand

[21:38] <HostBob> they have been so pressured and deluded into thinking this is a solution

[21:38] <Marion-VHL> It is so good the know that God is in control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[21:38] <Kathy-VHL> We have to pray for the peoplr of Israel that they wil come to see the Lord as their Mesiah

[21:38] <Kathy-VHL> I cant spell

[21:38] <Delta-VHL> Yes, Marion. Yes, Kathy! Amen

[21:38] <DonB-VHL> 14amen Kathy

[21:38] <HostBob> but now at the height of the "peace process" the Palestinian anti-Israel sentiments seem to be peaking!

[21:38] <Marion-VHL> amen Kathy

[21:38] <HostBob> go figure

[21:39] <Delta-VHL> (except the spelling part)

[21:39] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:39] <Marion-VHL> they cannot be trusted

[21:39] <Kathy-VHL> Whe they do then boy God is going to release all his fury on those who have hurt them

[21:39] <Levi-VHL> 6So-called peace at any cost

[21:39] <Delta-VHL> Bob, if Israel has an "indefensible border" does that not contribute to being surrounded.....from all sides as we read earlier?

[21:39] <HostBob> Yes, Kathy

[21:39] <Kathy-VHL> the false peace that is spoken of in scripture

[21:40] <HostBob> could be Delta... but it's my personal opinion...

[21:40] <HostBob> that after the upcoming war between Syria and the Palestinians and Lebanon...

[21:40] <Delta-VHL> I don't see Israel ever allowing themselves in that place, but, Adonai knows!

[21:40] <HostBob> that Israel will end up with even more territory that it has now

[21:40] <Kathy-VHL> May I say something to you all here it is not on the subject but will be o finterest to all

[21:40] <HostBob> sure Kathy!

[21:41] <HostBob> go for it :)

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> <---listenign to Kathy

[21:41] <Levi-VHL> 6Go ahead Kathy

[21:41] <humble_heart-VHL> 12go kathy

[21:41] <Kathy-VHL> Please go to Bob's www site Trumpet Sounds and read everything it is so enlightning you will be blessed

[21:41] <HostBob> Oh my, and I didn't even bribe her to say that :)

[21:41] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:41] <Levi-VHL> 6Will do

[21:41] <Kathy-VHL> lol

[21:41] <DonB-VHL> 14:-)

[21:42] <Kathy-VHL> I soent just about all day there

[21:42] <Delta-VHL> It is a good website

[21:42] <HostBob> thanks

[21:42] <called_out-VHL> :-)Great

[21:42] <Kathy-VHL> I learned a lot

[21:42] <Rexly-VHL> AMEN from Rexly

[21:42] <DonB-VHL> 14great:-)

[21:42] <Delta-VHL> Ok, Bob.....??? LOL

[21:42] <Levi-VHL> 6How long have you had that web site Bob?

[21:42] <Marion-VHL> kathy? dot com?

[21:43] <Delta-VHL> :-) Marion

[21:43] <HostBob> I started it maybe a year and a half ago perhaps

[21:43] <HostBob> www.trumpetsounds.com

[21:43] <Kathy-VHL> ask Bob I have it bookmarked so I am not sure if it is or not

[21:43] <Marion-VHL> hehehehe thanks Bob

[21:43] <Delta-VHL> LOL Marion! What a blessing !

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> Bob, I missed something just a bit ago....

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> can I ask about it?

[21:44] <Marion-VHL> I went to Zionshope it was good too

[21:44] <HostBob> Yes?

[21:44] <Kathy-VHL> It really helped me to get a better perspective on the things that are going on and what we are talking about in here

[21:44] <Delta-VHL> Ok, you mentioned Syria/Palestine and Israel getting back more land. But I think I missed somethign inthere

[21:44] <HostBob> Yes, it's amazing the depth of resources available to us now for studying subject related to the Scriptures

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[21:44] <Levi-VHL> 6I get their mag. Marion --

[21:45] <HostBob> OK Delta....

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[21:45] <HostBob> What did you miss? :)

[21:45] <Marion-VHL> I was going to request it also

[21:46] <Delta-VHL> Is this before Yeshua returns or after? Or what you see coming from your studies?

[21:46] <HostBob> In my opinion, the war with Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinians is before, way before...

[21:46] <HostBob> like very very soon

[21:46] <Marion-VHL> I agreee!!!!!!!!

[21:47] <HostBob> and that will lead to a very different situation

[21:47] <Delta-VHL> Ok, and amen. that is what I thought, but not sure

[21:47] <Marion-VHL> when yrshua comes there will be peace

[21:47] <skip-VHL> 4hi everyone

[21:47] <Delta-VHL> Situation being Israel would have the upper hand, and be attractive to "the Beast"? :-)

[21:47] <HostBob> Hi Skip!

[21:47] <Marion-VHL> hi skip

[21:47] <Delta-VHL> Shalom SKIP!

[21:47] <humble_heart-VHL> 12hello skip

[21:47] <Levi-VHL> 6I guess this is a ? for Stan but what is the stability of Syria right now?

[21:48] <HostBob> Well, Delta, Isaiah 17 seems to indicate the outcome of the destruction of Damascus will be intense international scorn of Israel

[21:48] <Kathy-VHL> You know somebody needs to start a www page like this one for America to warn and inform

[21:48] <HostBob> Levi, it's an unknown at this point whether Bashar will be able to consolidate power in Syria

[21:49] <HostBob> even if he does, he will not have the secure power base his father did, probably

[21:49] <Marion-VHL> Monday someone mentioned a million man & women march to washington

[21:49] <Kathy-VHL> Yes it is posted on the VHLsite too

[21:50] <Rexly-VHL> Won't Jordon be in on this?

[21:50] <Marion-VHL> to show our support for Israel

[21:50] <HostBob> Yes, Marion, and we are excited about that! It is still in the formulative stages..

[21:50] <Kathy-VHL> Most Americans are not looking at things about Israel they dont realize what is going on

[21:50] <HostBob> whether it will be a virtual only event, or an actual physical march

[21:50] <Kathy-VHL> Our news says nothing

[21:50] <Marion-VHL> today I saw that they voted their confidence in him

[21:51] <HostBob> Kathy, most Americans are looking at their stock portfolios and vacation homes

[21:51] <Levi-VHL> 6Even considering and knowing that His word is true it still amazes me that the WORLD expects Israel to ALWAYS acquiese

[21:51] <Kathy-VHL> I know and it is terrible

[21:51] <Marion-VHL> true Kathy

[21:51] <Delta-VHL> Kathy, some Americans also have their own ideas about their beliefs and don't want to hear differently

[21:51] <HostBob> So... look on the VHL forum for plans for the March..

[21:51] <HostBob> and contribute your own ideas!

[21:51] <HostBob> and pray :)

[21:52] <HostBob> Yes, Levi

[21:52] <HostBob> sad

[21:52] <Kathy-VHL> that is true but it is so terrible that we would let slick sick Willie have his way and not stand for Israel all the way

[21:52] <Delta-VHL> Kathy, some of us haven't? LOL

[21:53] <Delta-VHL> You haven't.

[21:53] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[21:53] <HostBob> We must stand for the truth Kathy :)

[21:53] <Kathy-VHL> I know God has his plan and this is all part of it and it will be just as He has said but when I am so with Israel it makes me sad that others are not

[21:53] <HostBob> GOod point Delta :)

[21:53] <Marion-VHL> America always backed Israel in the past. How does this goverment get away with it

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[21:53] <HostBob> Yes, sad Kathy

[21:53] <HostBob> Welcome, Lori!

[21:53] <HostBob> Shalom!

[21:53] <Kathy-VHL> I dont know that is what I cnt understand

[21:53] <humble_heart-VHL> 12hello lori

[21:53] <Delta-VHL> Marion, sometimes we support Israel and sometimes not as a country.

[21:53] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Lori! :-)

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[21:54] <HostBob> Marion, it seems that America's "support" has not really been so great when you look behind the scenes

[21:54] <Kathy-VHL> It makes me want to move to Israel

[21:54] <Marion-VHL> shalom Lori

[21:54] <lori-VHL> Hello everyone:-)

[21:54] <Levi-VHL> 6Welcome Lori

[21:54] <HostBob> yes, we have supported more than other countries

[21:54] <skip-VHL> 4hi lori &DEVORA

[21:54] <Devora1Devash> well I made it back

[21:54] <HostBob> Welcome back!

[21:54] <skip-VHL> 4:-(

[21:54] <Delta-VHL> :-) Devorah!

[21:54] <skip-VHL> 4ooops:-)

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> I am sorry, I keep putting the "h" on there

[21:55] <Kathy-VHL> But that is what I believe has made this country protected by God all these years has been our stand on Israel

[21:55] <Devora1Devash> you have to go thru the VHL to come in here...there is a VHL prayer site chat room but no one in there

[21:55] <Marion-VHL> wb devora

[21:55] <HostBob> Like in 1973 for example...

[21:55] <Kathy-VHL> when we go against her we will fall

[21:55] <Devora1Devash> thanks Marion

[21:55] <HostBob> remember what happened then?

[21:55] <HostBob> Israel was attacked by surprise on Yom Kippur, and things were looking very bad for a few days

[21:55] <Delta-VHL> Gaza Strip?

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[21:55] <Delta-VHL> Ohhh, sorry

[21:56] <Marion-VHL> partly kathy but I think it is also because we have sent missionaries out & spread the gospel too

[21:56] <HostBob> Israel practically begged Nixon and Kissinger for assistance

[21:56] <HostBob> but to no avail

[21:56] <Delta-VHL> yes.... :-(

[21:56] <HostBob> finally, several days later, Alexander Haig finally got some arms and supplys to Israel

[21:57] <HostBob> that is typical of the response when Israel is really in need

[21:57] <Delta-VHL> yeah, but It was a "Gideon's Army" and God got the glory!

[21:57] <HostBob> America is not a true friend to Israel...

[21:57] <HostBob> remember, the US acts in the interest of the US

[21:57] <Kathy-VHL> But you know what I just thought about if America were to stand with Israel then they could give the glory to America instead of to God maybe that is part of the plan

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[21:58] <HostBob> that's a good point, Kathy

[21:58] <Delta-VHL> There is one thing I thing I think the US and Israel have in common....dare I say it?

[21:58] <HostBob> sure, Delta

[21:58] <called_out-VHL> Don't you wonder if any country is a true friend to another country? It is all about profit.

[21:58] <Delta-VHL> Amen Kahty

[21:58] <Levi-VHL> 6Bob do you think that the PA will declare statehood in Sept.

[21:58] <HostBob> Yes, Called

[21:58] <Kathy-VHL> We have to become small so that He becomes great in the eyes of all

[21:58] <Delta-VHL> Israel and US have not represented the people very well who live there at present

[21:58] <HostBob> Levi, it seems rather certain that he will

[21:59] <humble_heart-VHL> 12I'm gonna say bye for now.....Take Care Everybody........God Bless........:-)

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Bob, declaring Statehood and getting it might be a different matter

[21:59] <Delta-VHL> Shalom humble! :-)

[21:59] <HostBob> Good night humble :)

[21:59] <Kathy-VHL> nite humble

[21:59] <called_out-VHL> See u later humble:-)

[21:59] <HostBob> Yes, if that happens... here is a possible scenario...

[21:59] <skip-VHL> 4Shalom Humble

[21:59] <Levi-VHL> 6:-)Good night and God Bless Humble

[21:59] <HostBob> They declare a state unilaterally without a "peace agreement"

[21:59] <Marion-VHL> God Bless hh

[22:00] <HostBob> and Israel has said that if this happens, they will annex portions of the West Bank immediately

[22:00] <humble_heart-VHL> 12Thank you all.....Bye

[22:00] <HostBob> which is a recipe for war

[22:00] <HostBob> as they both grab for territories...

[22:00] <HostBob> and the Palestinians attack Jewish settlements near the current

[22:01] <HostBob> "Area C"

[22:01] <HostBob> plus...

[22:01] <Levi-VHL> 6Thanks for the explanation Bob

[22:01] <Marion-VHL> God bless Levi

[22:01] <HostBob> many Palestinians from other areas ("refugees") willstream in an attempt to "resettle"

[22:01] <HostBob> and overrun Jerusalem

[22:01] <skip-VHL> 4I don't see how another country can declare statehood in another ,without war

[22:02] <HostBob> right, Skip

[22:02] <Delta-VHL> This sounds like a ground war scenario, Bob.

[22:02] <Delta-VHL> Agreed

[22:02] <Marion-VHL> It is so sad but we have to keep our eyes on the Lord! This must happen . It is all in God's plan!!

[22:02] <HostBob> Yes, Marion

[22:02] <skip-VHL> 4amen

[22:02] <Kathy-VHL> Jerusalem will never be out of Israel control again will it Bob isnt that what scripture says

[22:03] <Delta-VHL> We must be willing to lay our lives down as Jesus did for us. That is hard sometimes

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[22:03] <Marion-VHL> Kathy I don't know how much control Israel will have with the antichrist on the scene

[22:03] <HostBob> Yes, Kathy, I'm trying to remember where that is

[22:03] <skip-VHL> 4WISH I WAS IN ISRAEL TO HELP FIGHT

[22:03] <HostBob> Marion has a good point also

[22:03] <Kathy-VHL> me too skip

[22:04] <Marion-VHL> the bible says that they will go to the hills & hide for safety

[22:04] <HostBob> I don't really know how it all fits together :)

[22:04] <Kathy-VHL> Im 56 years old but I can shoot good lol

[22:04] <HostBob> LOL

[22:04] <Kathy-VHL> but between now and the trib time it will stay under Israel control

[22:04] <Delta-VHL> Bob, it's in Amos, isn't I?

[22:04] <Delta-VHL> Or am I thinking of something else?

[22:04] <skip-VHL> 4you go girl lol

[22:05] <Marion-VHL> hehehehe lol @ Kathy

[22:05] <Levi-VHL> 6Since this is a prophecy night...What is going on behind the scenes as far as a one world religion , Bob?

[22:05] <Kathy-VHL> Yea Im from the south I was raised with a shotgun lol

[22:05] <HostBob> I can't remember, Delta :)

[22:05] <Delta-VHL> LOL Kathy.

[22:05] <skip-VHL> 4me too and rocks

[22:05] <Kathy-VHL> yup an a sling shot with broken glass lol

[22:05] <Marion-VHL> When I was in Israel they shot up the Hilton right after I left

[22:06] <HostBob> Levi, the one-world religion plans are gaining strength quickly

[22:06] <skip-VHL> 4remember DAVID

[22:06] <Marion-VHL> although I felt very safe there

[22:06] <Kathy-VHL> you know a little old shot gun can do a lot of damage especially when one thinks the shooter cant hit the broad side of a barn

[22:06] <HostBob> someone here shared a website for plans for an initiative to bring all of the worlds religions together

[22:06] <lori-VHL> Bob, what else do you know about the one world religion?

[22:07] <skip-VHL> 4What kind of one world relibion do you think it will be ?ISLAM or something else

[22:07] <called_out-VHL> Kathy, you don't have to worry about the barns, thee

[22:07] <lori-VHL> Do yu remember the web site?

[22:07] <HostBob> In general, Lori, it will be an attempt to unite all religions other than Biblical Christianity... the great apostacy of the end times

[22:07] <Marion-VHL> Kathy I am going to take you with me next time

[22:07] <Levi-VHL> 6I have heard that for quite some time but how close besides rhetoric is it?

[22:07] <Kathy-VHL> that site is millenniumpeacesummit.org.faithsframe.html

[22:07] <HostBob> let me look, lori

[22:08] <Kathy-VHL> where we goin Marion

[22:08] <HostBob> http://www.united-religions.org/

[22:08] <Levi-VHL> 6Thank you much Kathy

[22:08] <Levi-VHL> 6Thank you too Bob

[22:08] <Kathy-VHL> bob how do you get that url to past in here

[22:09] <HostBob> I don't know how close it is, Levi, but we know under the antichrist that all of the world will unite in worship to him, after believing his deceptions

[22:09] <skip-VHL> 4BOB is that the one we have been talking about here or another?

[22:09] <Kathy-VHL> oh to Israel Marion ok Im ready

[22:09] <HostBob> Ctrl C to copy, Ctrl V to paste

[22:10] <HostBob> not sure, skip

[22:10] <Kathy-VHL> ok thanks

[22:10] <HostBob> there is another one that is a UN site

[22:10] <lori-VHL> So, are you saying Judaism will unite with Islam, etc. etc.?

[22:10] <Marion-VHL> to Israel!!!!!!!!!!

[22:10] <HostBob> I don't know about Judaism

[22:10] <skip-VHL> 4thanks ,

[22:11] <lori-VHL> I think "Biblical Christianity" needs a bit more clarification.

[22:11] <HostBob> Born again believers?

[22:11] <Marion-VHL> no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:11] <Kathy-VHL> http://www.millenniumpeacesummit.org/faithsframe.html

[22:11] <HostBob> the true Church

[22:11] <called_out-VHL> On the UN site, when you click on all 12 different religions, they all sound about the same. It will be a watered down version of all I think???

[22:11] <HostBob> those who hold to the testimony of Jesus

[22:12] <Marion-VHL> amen Bob!!!!

[22:12] <HostBob> yes, called out, that's the idea, they say that all religions can be inclusive of all others...

[22:12] <Delta-VHL> Bob, I wonder if this is going to be the opportunity for the Gentiles to show their love for Israel

[22:12] <called_out-VHL> that's whay they say!!

[22:12] <HostBob> but we will be viewed as the ones impeding progress to this "dream"

[22:13] <Delta-VHL> because I doubt Israel will unite with other religions?

[22:13] <HostBob> because we stubbornly hold to the exclusive belief the Jesus is the ONLY way

[22:13] <Delta-VHL> Yes, He is

[22:13] <HostBob> Yes, Delta?

[22:13] <HostBob> Go on

[22:13] <Marion-VHL> No one that is a true believer can accept a watered down religion

[22:13] <lori-VHL> I agree with you there, Bob:-)

[22:14] <HostBob> Right, marion

[22:14] <Delta-VHL> but

[22:14] <called_out-VHL> Many are called, few are chosen....Marion

[22:14] <Delta-VHL> when it comes down to it, Jesus did say others will know we are His by our love for one another

[22:14] <called_out-VHL> My sheep know my voice

[22:14] <Delta-VHL> And he was speaking to Jewish Disciiples, right?

[22:14] <HostBob> Love, yes, accepting false teachings, no

[22:15] <HostBob> Yes?

[22:15] <Marion-VHL> yes Delta

[22:15] <Levi-VHL> 6Because the key word is inclusive...and since the Christian knows that Christ is the only way , truth and the life ....That does not sit well with them what-so-ever. That's why they say we are entirely intolerant etc.

[22:15] <Delta-VHL> yes. And do you see all Israel accepting false teachings? I do not

[22:15] <HostBob> Right, Levi

[22:15] <Delta-VHL> Some, butnot all. Just as some Christians will

[22:15] <lori-VHL> So, it comes to an individual not just the religion? Many religions are "watered down" today. Just compare the guidelines the Bible teaches vs church doctrine.

[22:15] <HostBob> Some will, yes

[22:15] <Delta-VHL> True Lori

[22:15] <Marion-VHL> yes for above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:16] <Marion-VHL> not the last statement

[22:16] <HostBob> Lori, when the false messiah shows up, with his false prophet, people will be eager to worship him

[22:16] <Delta-VHL> But not all, Bob, right?

[22:17] <lori-VHL> Yes, I agree Bob. He will appear to have all the answers.

[22:17] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:17] <HostBob> they will gladly take the mark as a sign of their devotion and loyalty to him, the great "savior"

[22:17] <HostBob> right, Delta :)

[22:17] <lori-VHL> That is why even the very elect will be deceived.

[22:17] <Marion-VHL> but does Israel think he is the Messiah?

[22:18] <Kathy-VHL> only if that were possible but the time will be shortened so the elect will not be decieved

[22:18] <HostBob> that is a question to which I do not know the answer, Marion...

[22:18] <Delta-VHL> At present, most of my Orthodox Jewish friends beleive Yeshua is a great prophet, but not Messiah

[22:18] <HostBob> perhaps at first....

[22:18] <HostBob> but when he sets himself up in the temple as God, probably not

[22:18] <lori-VHL> Under Judaism, they do not except Christ as their Savior at this time, Is that correct, Bob?

[22:18] <HostBob> you mean right now, Lori?

[22:19] <Marion-VHL> it isn't clear but some must or the non religious perhaps just accepting the worldly good

[22:19] <lori-VHL> Yes, right now.

[22:19] <Levi-VHL> 6Yet a saviot must in a sense show himself as such....I wonder sometimes what that is besides where the Bible says he will show great signs and wonders.. Just musing

[22:19] <HostBob> Yes, most Jews today do not accept Jesus as the Messiah of Israel, though increasing numbers are doing so!

[22:19] <Delta-VHL> Amen, Bob

[22:20] <lori-VHL> So, what do they call these Jews?

[22:20] <called_out-VHL> Messenic Jews?

[22:20] <called_out-VHL> spelling?

[22:20] <HostBob> the believers?

[22:20] <Delta-VHL> Messianic or Completed Jews

[22:20] <Marion-VHL> splitting the Mount of olives in two is a great attention getter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:20] <called_out-VHL> Oh, hm.

[22:20] <Delta-VHL> Or Believers in Yeshua

[22:20] <Delta-VHL> :-)

[22:20] <HostBob> yeah, Marion :) try it at your next party :)

[22:21] <called_out-VHL> Amen Marion! It sure would get my attention.

[22:21] <Marion-VHL> hehehehehhehe well levi is musing!!!!!!!

[22:21] <lori-VHL> So, what is a Messianic Jew? I have heard that ALOT.

[22:21] <Delta-VHL> LOL

[22:21] <Delta-VHL> Messianic = Messiah

[22:21] <HostBob> A Messianic Jew is a Jewish person who has put their faith in the Messiah Jesus

[22:22] <called_out-VHL> You know in Rev, when God says to John..Come Up Here...That's what I want to hear Him say to us soon.

[22:22] <HostBob> accepting Him as the promised Savior and Lord

[22:22] <HostBob> just like us Gentiles do :)

[22:22] <Marion-VHL> do any of you see Jewish Jewels on tv

[22:22] <Delta-VHL> Yeah. Bob says it really well!

[22:22] <lori-VHL> I have tried to look them up on the web but couldn't find any sites. Any suggestions?

[22:22] <Delta-VHL> Lori....try www.messianictimes.com

[22:22] <Rexly-VHL> Good night all God bless

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[22:22] <Levi-VHL> 6Yes Marion I do every now and then

[22:23] <HostBob> Night, Rexly!

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Rexly! :-)

[22:23] <Marion-VHL> I enjoy it very much

[22:23] <called_out-VHL> Good Nite Rexly:-)

[22:23] <HostBob> There are lots of Messianic websites, Lori

[22:23] <lori-VHL> Thanx Delta:-)

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> yu

[22:23] <Delta-VHL> oops

[22:23] <Levi-VHL> 6God's speed Rexly

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[22:24] <Marion-VHL> www.jewishjewels.com (or maybe .org)

[22:24] <Delta-VHL> Search engines help find them, too, Lori

[22:24] <HostBob> Here is a very good one: http://www.saltshakers.com/

[22:24] <Delta-VHL> yes, Marion

[22:24] <Rich-VHL> Hello all Iv'e beenaway awhile, how is everyone?

[22:24] <Marion-VHL> Hello rich

[22:24] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Rich! :-)

[22:24] <Levi-VHL> 6Hi there Rich

[22:24] <HostBob> Hey there Rich!

[22:24] <Marion-VHL> I am great & blessed

[22:24] <Delta-VHL> Thanks Bob! :-)

[22:25] <called_out-VHL> Hey Rich:-)

[22:25] <lori-VHL> I did a search for "messianic jews" and came up with the masons, etc. Then alot of folklore

[22:25] <Delta-VHL> hmmm

[22:25] <Rich-VHL> what are we talking about tonight

[22:25] <called_out-VHL> The Masons...that is strange

[22:25] <Marion-VHL> try yeshua

[22:25] <Marion-VHL> watch your spelling maybe

[22:25] <skip-VHL> 4hi RICH :-)

[22:25] <Marion-VHL> try Bob's site

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[22:26] <Rich-VHL> 2is that the freemasons called

[22:26] <HostBob> lots of stuff, Rich :)

[22:26] <Rich-VHL> 2hi skip

[22:26] <Marion-VHL> not the masons rich !!!!!!!!

[22:26] <lori-VHL> I didn't mean to get all off on the masons!

[22:26] <Delta-VHL> LOL (HUGS) to Lori

[22:26] <called_out-VHL> Lori, funny.

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[22:27] <Rich-VHL> 2I sure have missed being here at chat

[22:27] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Bezalel!

[22:27] <HostBob> Here is another good site: http://www.hoim.com/

[22:27] <Bezalel-VHL> Hello, all

[22:27] <Marion-VHL> lori I just said that jokingly cause that is all rich saw when he came in

[22:28] <called_out-VHL> Hi Bez

[22:28] <Rich-VHL> 2hi Bezalwl

[22:28] <skip-VHL> 4HI BEZALEL

[22:28] <HostBob> and another: http://www.foigm.org/

[22:28] <Rich-VHL> 2can't spell

[22:28] <Levi-VHL> 6Hi Bezalel

[22:28] <Marion-VHL> what does Hoim mean Bob

[22:29] <Marion-VHL> Shalom Bezalel

[22:29] <Bezalel-VHL> Sorry I'm so late, I fell asleep

[22:29] <HostBob> Hear O Israel Ministries

[22:29] <HostBob> Welcome, Bez :)

[22:30] <Rich-VHL> 2Bob what is happening in Israel lately

[22:30] <Delta-VHL> Its ok Bez

[22:30] <HostBob> Many things, Rich....

[22:30] <skip-VHL> 4with Jonathan BERNIS?

[22:30] <HostBob> especially regarding contention for Jerusalem and the Temple Mount

[22:31] <Rich-VHL> 2probably for the bad I assume

[22:31] <HostBob> illegal construction continues by the Arabs on the Temple Mount :(

[22:32] <Rich-VHL> 2yea I heard they were excavating under the temple mount

[22:32] <HostBob> and... the Israel "Justice Minister" said today it's ok for the Palestinians to control the Mount and put their flags there if it will bring "peace"

[22:32] <Delta-VHL> (still gasping over that)

[22:32] <skip-VHL> 4thats terrible

[22:32] <Marion-VHL> well they do control the mount

[22:33] <Rich-VHL> 2then we must be close to the comming of the antichrist

[22:33] <HostBob> They have administrative control, yes

[22:33] <HostBob> but not full control

[22:33] <Marion-VHL> closer than we think I think

[22:33] <Delta-VHL> Yeah, but I dont' think they will keep control! LOL God is bigger

[22:34] <called_out-VHL> We live in terrible and exciting, wonderful times.

[22:34] <Rich-VHL> 2as I don't think the Lord will let the temple mount fall into the pa's hands

[22:34] <Marion-VHL> true called

[22:34] <HostBob> IsraelWire-6/23) Rabbi Chaim Richman of the Temple Institute prepared the following report:

[22:34] <Delta-VHL> I just know God is God, amen?

[22:34] <HostBob> For eight months, we have reported on the Moslem Wakf's illegal excavations in the southern part of the Temple Mount. It has been established that these unsupervised excavations have facilitated the deliberate and calculated destruction of archeological remnants from the Holy Temple. Now, the desecration and destruction has moved into a new phase.

[22:34] <Marion-VHL> amen Delta

[22:35] <HostBob> We were recently able to ascend to the Temple Mount to view this construction activity firsthand. What we saw there was so staggering that it is difficult to convey the images in words. Under the open skies, and with no pretenses, the entire eastern section of the Mount has been turned into a busy construction site. Activity is taking place at a fever pitch. Not one inch of the eastern section of the mount remains untouched

[22:35] <Levi-VHL> 6And yet they are made out to appear the uncompromising one's and the PA as tho' they are totally harassed by the Israelis

[22:35] <HostBob> Haphazard heaps of archeological remnants of major significance, freshly unearthed, are strewn about everywhere

[22:36] <Rich-VHL> 2something will good will come of this excavation, I just know it

[22:36] <HostBob> Tractors are at work and other heavy machinery can be heard; there is activity of paving and other aspects of ground preparation, digging, masonry and more. It should be noted that this construction is taking place in areas that are clearly within the boundaries wherein chambers of the Holy Temple stood. Thus the actual site of the Holy Temple is now being turned into a Moslem site, all over again.

[22:36] <HostBob> This is all from IsraelWire

[22:36] <lori-VHL> Well all I need to go for now. God Bless:-)

[22:36] <Delta-VHL> :-(

[22:36] <Delta-VHL> Shalom Lori! :-)

[22:36] <skip-VHL> 4could thus be the desolation of the Temple?

[22:36] <HostBob> All the deliberate destruction of archeological remains, and the dumping and trashing of hundred of tons of precious Temple remnants that we have focused upon until now, is ancient history – for the Wakf has now moved on from the destruction of Temple remains, to the complete and permanent alteration of the Temple site.

[22:36] <HostBob> By creating new facts on the ground, the Wakf is successfully de-Judaizing the Mount and Jerusalem, and wresting the city from the people of Israel

[22:37] <Marion-VHL> shalom lori

[22:37] <HostBob> Bye Lori! Come again!

[22:37] <Levi-VHL> 6JUST UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

[22:37] <skip-VHL> 4byr LORI

[22:37] <HostBob> Shalom!

[22:37] <called_out-VHL> Bye Lori

[22:37] <HostBob> Yes, it is, Levi

[22:37] <Marion-VHL> I don't think so skip

[22:37] <HostBob> grievous, sickening

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[22:37] <Rich-VHL> 2maybe we can't see it right now but I yhink something will happen for the good of Israel from this

[22:37] <Kathy-VHL> http://www.templemountfaithful.org/

[22:37] <Delta-VHL> My heart aches on that....

[22:37] <HostBob> yes, Rich....

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[22:37] <HostBob> it will stir up the jealous anger of the one who owns the site

[22:38] <Delta-VHL> Shalom mkiser! ;-)

[22:38] <Marion-VHL> It makes me cry just to think of it

[22:38] <called_out-VHL> And we know who owns the site.

[22:38] <Levi-VHL> 6thanks Kathy

[22:38] <HostBob> Yes, we do

[22:38] <Rich-VHL> 2I think your correct there Bob

[22:38] <Kathy-VHL> anytime

[22:38] <Delta-VHL> Amen Bob, Called!

[22:38] <Marion-VHL> what do they give for an explination, Bob

[22:38] <mkiser-VHL> hello, delta

[22:39] <HostBob> they say they are "making a new entrance" for a mosque there

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[22:39] <HostBob> it's all illegal

[22:39] <HostBob> but the Israeli authorities will not stop it

[22:39] <HostBob> fearing Arab violence if they do

[22:39] <Delta-VHL> They are afraid, aren't they? Of starting war?

[22:39] <Delta-VHL> asked and answered

[22:40] <Levi-VHL> 6I just can't fathom that there isn't a monumental outcry from the public

[22:40] <Rich-VHL> 2why won't the government do something to stop it Bob

[22:40] <Bezalel-VHL> See where the UN Secretary said Israel should return Jerusalum to the PA

[22:40] <Delta-VHL> :-( Bez

[22:40] <Marion-VHL> another mosque??

[22:40] <HostBob> Yes, Bez

[22:40] <Bezalel-VHL> You betcha

[22:40] <skip-VHL> 4maybe Israel is waiting for the right moment to strike

[22:40] <Delta-VHL> When did the government start fearing Arab violence???

[22:40] <called_out-VHL> Are there armed arab troops walking the streets?

[22:41] <HostBob> Some are speculating that the Arabs plan to turn the entire Temple Mount into one large mosqueu

[22:41] <Bezalel-VHL> Bob, hasn't Barak regathered his coalition?

[22:41] <HostBob> yes, Bez, he has salvaged it for now, with the loss of Meretz party

[22:41] <Rich-VHL> 2yes skip, they will only take just so much from the p.a.

[22:41] <Levi-VHL> 6As everyone knows Israel is a world power and yet they cave

[22:41] <Marion-VHL> look at the complaints when the israelis just made the other walkway from the western wall

[22:42] <skip-VHL> 4Or maybe G_D is holding Israel back so HE can show his Might

[22:42] <Delta-VHL> If I remember correctly, there are other parties ready to leave though, Bob

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[22:42] <HostBob> Yes, Skip :)

[22:42] <Rich-VHL> 2I just had the same thought skip

[22:42] <Bezalel-VHL> The Shas returned, when they got their school funds.

[22:42] <Delta-VHL> Skip, God will do it in such a way, I believe no one will doubt it is Him

[22:42] <Kathy-VHL> I got dismissed and missed what skip said

[22:43] <HostBob> right, Stan called it "political prostitution" today when I talked with him

[22:43] <skip-VHL> 4Thats what my bible says:-)

[22:43] <Rich-VHL> 2Amen Delta

[22:43] <HostBob> Yupper, Skip :)

[22:43] <Bezalel-VHL> Delta, doesn't scripture say the Mount will be split when His feet are planted on it?

[22:43] <Delta-VHL> Bob? Zech 14?

[22:43] <Levi-VHL> 6Iknow that they want peace but can't they see that it just is not possible ...I guess that is spiritually speaking and that is why they don't get it .... Their understanding is darkened

[22:43] <HostBob> no, the Temple Mount will be "raised up"

[22:43] <HostBob> the Mount of Olives will be split

[22:44] <Delta-VHL> (thanks....)

[22:44] <Bezalel-VHL> Thanks, Bob

[22:44] <Delta-VHL> I know people think the Temple Mount IS the Mount of Olives

[22:44] <Rich-VHL> 2true Bob there will be a new temple very soon

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[22:45] <Rich-VHL> 2within a few short years

[22:45] <HostBob> Folk, I'm gonna get going here....

[22:45] <Delta-VHL> Bob?

[22:45] <Marion-VHL> no the mount of olives

[22:45] <HostBob> it's been a pleasure as always chatting with you

[22:45] <HostBob> yes, Delta?

[22:45] <Delta-VHL> May I share very quickly beforeyou go?

[22:45] <Rich-VHL> 2calling it a night Bob?

[22:45] <HostBob> Remember, Stan is now on Monday nights...

[22:45] <skip-VHL> 4THANKS BOB :-)

[22:46] <Delta-VHL> I wanted to share something very special that happened today, if that's ok

[22:46] <HostBob> You can share, I'm gonna go :) Feel free to stay as long as you like, everyone :)

[22:46] <skip-VHL> 4have a good week

[22:46] <Rich-VHL> 2thanks for being here Bob

[22:46] <Kathy-VHL> Bob Blessings to you and thanks for being here

[22:46] <Delta-VHL> Great, thanks! Shalom Bob!

[22:46] <Bezalel-VHL> Bye Bob

[22:46] <HostBob> May the Lord bless you and make His face shine on you :)

[22:46] <HostBob> Good night

[22:46] <Marion-VHL> Shalom Bob

[22:46] <Kathy-VHL> Good Night Bob

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