Virtual Holyland Bible Prophecy Chat Log


*** Log file opened: 5/15/00 7:42:02 PM

[19:42] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> i haven't, what is it

[19:42] <HostBob> Tell me more

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[19:42] <honoringGod-VHL> :-)Hi Bob

[19:42] <HostBob> Hi Honor :)

[19:42] <Judy-VHL> It's where the US and 4 other countries (Canada and G. Britain r 2) monitor every electronic communication in the world.

[19:42] <HostBob> Welcome, hope!

[19:42] <honoringGod-VHL> buy the way I got my answear that I e-mailed you about.

[19:43] <hope-VHL> Hi Bob! :) only one room tonight

[19:43] <HostBob> Oh yes, Judy, I have read about that

[19:43] <HostBob> Yes, only one room tonight :)

[19:43] <Judy-VHL> Scary stuff

[19:43] <HostBob> Yes, Tim, sorry, have not had a chance to answer yet

[19:43] <hope-VHL> Judy, GREAT e-mail! thanks

[19:43] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> you know that your internet provider knows eveything about your communication and email

[19:44] <Judy-VHL> My husband also tells me that they (whoever) can monitor your computer from right outside your home.

[19:44] <HostBob> A little bit, Judy :) But we have nothing to worry about, right? :)

[19:44] <light2-VHL> Oh well

[19:44] <Judy-VHL> I guess, Bob. Mostly scary for others.

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[19:44] <Judy-VHL> Love you Hope

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[19:45] <light2-VHL> Bob did you get a chance to look at the urls that I sent you?

[19:45] <HostBob> I mean, we know the forces of the evil one will resist us, but we will prevail

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[19:45] <HostBob> Yes, I did light, very interesting, I was not aware of that

[19:45] <honoringGod-VHL> yes, Judy, did you know that a phone company employee can listen to your conversations at anytime?

[19:45] <HostBob> Welcome, Jazene

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[19:46] <Judy-VHL> I know, but I feel so doggone bad for those NOT in the know. The people that keep their heads in the sand and their beer in the fridge, ya know?

[19:46] <jazene-VHL> 4:-)Hey Bob and everyone.

[19:46] <HostBob> No heads in the sand here in this room :)

[19:46] <Judy-VHL> I believe it Honor!!!!! I always hear clicking. I wonder.......

[19:46] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13there is a phone company substation down the road from me, there are always trucks there, i have seen them sitting there with headphones on

[19:47] <light2-VHL> Where do you live IBE?

[19:47] <HostBob> Let em hear what they want - all we have to say is JESUS IS LORD :)

[19:47] <light2-VHL> Amen

[19:47] <hands-VHL> 6I had some pretty werid phone contacts lately

[19:47] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13wv

[19:48] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13amen, bob

[19:48] <hope-VHL> AMEN BOB

[19:48] <Judy-VHL> From me, they hear lots of negative things about the Pres. (sorry to say). I'll probably be in one of those detention centers one day.

[19:48] <HostBob> have you guys followed what happened in Israel today?

[19:48] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13they are there seven days a week

[19:48] <light2-VHL> Hands in what way ?

[19:48] <honoringGod-VHL> hackers as a matter of fact can tap into your phone line from a dial up modem from their own computer and use your number or another persons number to make phone calls, and make weird sounds on your line, It's called "phreaking" combo of phone and hacking.

[19:48] <light2-VHL> Yes they gave part of Jerusalem away

[19:48] <Judy-VHL> No, Bob, working all day.

[19:48] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13did they really

[19:48] <honoringGod-VHL> whats going on bob?

[19:48] <Judy-VHL> OH NO!

[19:48] <HostBob> And much violence

[19:49] <light2-VHL> Yes two villages

[19:49] <HostBob> I'll paste some from news reports when more get here

[19:49] <honoringGod-VHL> I did read a few days ago about the peace treaty

[19:49] <HostBob> much Palestinian rioting

[19:49] <hands-VHL> 6try to dial my Mom in gaithersburg MD and got some ,some, code 53, buzz then off this happened Twice!!

[19:49] <HostBob> and trying to overrun Jewish settlements

[19:50] <HostBob> and PA police firing live ammo at Israeli soldier

[19:50] <Judy-VHL> I'm getting goosebumps!!

[19:50] <honoringGod-VHL> Bob, did you read about the peace treaty?

[19:50] <HostBob> the worst violence in several years

[19:50] <hands-VHL> 6my computor is on a different line

[19:50] <HostBob> What treaty, Tim?

[19:50] <hope-VHL> Yeah, I was reading that Bob, pretty sad......and the Hesbullah, and making that deal with the Christian Lebanese, if they kill an Israeli, they'll be pardoned????

[19:50] <honoringGod-VHL> hands, I have a dsl line, but they can still "tune in"

[19:50] <HostBob> yes, pretty sick, huh hope

[19:50] <hope-VHL> Hezbullah, (spell check)

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[19:50] <HostBob> Welcome, Worthy :)

[19:50] <hope-VHL> Yes, UNBELIEVABLE

[19:50] <Judy-VHL> Barak is pretty liberal. Fits in with end times!

[19:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Hello Bob :)

[19:51] <hope-VHL> Hi WORTHY :)

[19:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Hey Hope :)

[19:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> so what's the topic of discussion tonight :)

[19:51] <Judy-VHL> Hi Mr. Editor.

[19:51] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13what happened with the leader of Egypt

[19:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Hey Judy :)

[19:51] <HostBob> We were talking about electronic eavesdropping...

[19:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Mubarak ?

[19:51] <HostBob> and the violence in Israel today

[19:51] <hands-VHL> 6I had a odd one like it a couple years ago BEFORE my nternet, my Mom is real close to DC

[19:51] <jazene-VHL> 4Hey worthy

[19:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Hey Jazene :)

[19:52] <Judy-VHL> Did something happen to Mubarek?

[19:52] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13i

[19:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> hands I am in Baltimore Md :)

[19:52] <light2-VHL> Bob could you please forward the urls I sent you to Worthynews

[19:52] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13i'm sorry, no the one that had the stroke, maybe syria

[19:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right that is Assad

[19:52] <light2-VHL> for warned

[19:52] <Judy-VHL> What happened

[19:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Assad's son is being set up to be the next leader

[19:52] <Judy-VHL> ?

[19:53] <HostBob> ok Light2 :)

[19:53] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13i hadn't heard anything since he had the stroke, thank you

[19:53] <light2-VHL> How can we warn Christians that do not have internet and don't realize what is happening

[19:53] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> well Assad had a stroke so the talks between Israel and Syria are at a standstill especially since Syria renigged on a deal that was supposedly finished but decided they also wanted the sea of Galilee which Israel will not give up

[19:54] <HostBob> Yes, Worthy, I read that he (Bashur Assad) had a former PM arrested, apparently in an attempt to consolidate power

[19:54] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> fax them info light :)

[19:54] <hands-VHL> 6My Mom call the phone co. once because she was sure she was being bugged they said there are just tooo many phone it is real bad when they add new area codes

[19:54] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right Bob :)

[19:54] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> hands do you wanna know a sure fire way of knowing if you are being tapped ?

[19:54] <light2-VHL> I don't have fax, but Bob will send you the info I am talking about

[19:54] <hands-VHL> 6YES!

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[19:54] <hope-VHL> We ALL want to know

[19:55] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> ok light :) you can email it to me if you want light :)

[19:55] <jazene-VHL> 4Hey mytan

[19:55] <HostBob> And some were speculating that papa Assad was no longer functional

[19:55] <HostBob> Welcome, Mytan

[19:55] <light2-VHL> What is your email ?

[19:55] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> well if you get a phone call and there's nobody on the other end of the phone like it's a wrong number

[19:55] <honoringGod-VHL> light, some people ,even christians I've experianced don't really care, they will say what can we do about what happens in Israel?

[19:55] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> editor@worthynews.com

[19:55] <light2-VHL> ok will send it to you

[19:55] <HostBob> Looks like the regular gang is here

[19:55] <Mytan-VHL> Hello everyone.

[19:55] <hope-VHL> Yeah, I've heard that too honoringGod

[19:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> that's usually the government spiders checking your phone line etc technology has it now that they can call and then after you hang up it turns the phone into a microphone and can actually be an evesdropping device

[19:56] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13haven't they revealed his real condition

[19:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> so you can do what I do sometimes LOL

[19:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I will give it some keywords like bomb etc LOL

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[19:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> then I will witness for a few minutes then disconnect the phone jack then reconnect it : )

[19:56] <light2-VHL> Hey that has happened here

[19:57] <HostBob> Hello Grizz! :)

[19:57] <jazene-VHL> 4That sounds kind of far fetched to me.

[19:57] <hands-VHL> 6You are kidding me! they can do this even from a hard line??

[19:57] <light2-VHL> Just the other nite I picked up my cordless and it was turned on already

[19:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> so that the person will be required to listen because a keyword is used :)

[19:57] <HostBob> You all should get "frequent chatter" awards :)

[19:57] <jazene-VHL> 4Hey Grizz

[19:57] <hope-VHL> 3Yeah, Bob, we're on here ALOT

[19:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> no I am not kidding you it's quite easy have you all seen the new TV's out now ?

[19:57] <Mytan-VHL> Welcome Griz

[19:57] <hope-VHL> 3NO

[19:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> the new 1inch wide TV's ?

[19:57] <light2-VHL> I believe it

[19:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> that can hang on your wall etc ?

[19:57] <hands-VHL> 6yes

[19:58] <hope-VHL> 3yeah,

[19:58] <grizzman-VHL> shalom my friends

[19:58] <HostBob> Shalom!

[19:58] <hope-VHL> 3Hi GRIZZ

[19:58] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> well on the back of those TV's there's a warning label do not tamper with it etc

[19:58] <jazene-VHL> 4No

[19:58] <honoringGod-VHL> check outwww.cynet.com/timeline/timeline.htm if your interested, then lets chat about it....

[19:58] <jazene-VHL> 4Oh yes

[19:58] <hands-VHL> 6you mean the flat picture type tv?

[19:58] <hope-VHL> 3so what are you saying?

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[19:58] <hope-VHL> 3are they monitoring us through the t.v

[19:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I got a report from a technology expert that told me that those new TV's can be used as a 2 way TV you can watch TV and they can watch YOU but I don't have hard evidence just what a tech expert sent me etc

[19:59] <HostBob> Hello, Sara! Welcome to Bible Prophecy Chat!

[19:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> too much technological mumbo jumbo for me to decipher LOL

[19:59] <sara-VHL> Shalom Bob - todah

[19:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> but on the lighter side of news :)

[19:59] <hope-VHL> 3that's tooooo creapy!

[19:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Jesus is coming :)

[19:59] <Judy-VHL> I believe it Editor, I believe it! Is this the V chip?????

[19:59] <light2-VHL> Worthy check your e-mail you should have it now.

[19:59] <HostBob> Shalom :)

[20:00] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> not sure I am not totally up on that :)

[20:00] <jazene-VHL> 4AMEN WORTHY:-)

[20:00] <hands-VHL> 6This is scary!

[20:00] <Judy-VHL> Me either, just heard about this chip.

[20:00] <HostBob> Nah, not scary at all :) We should expect these things

[20:00] <hope-VHL> 3WHAT V chip???? the digital angel, or a new one

[20:00] <Judy-VHL> Our televisions will be obsolete, I wonder why?????

[20:00] <honoringGod-VHL> Judy what chip is that ? The digital angel?

[20:00] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> interesting

[20:00] <grizzman-VHL> brb going to check

[20:01] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> no the V Chip is the chip I think for blocking bad programs on the TV etc

[20:01] <light2-VHL> Look even Daniel got sick after the prophecy he recieved

[20:01] <HostBob> How is that that we overcome them?

[20:01] <Judy-VHL> I don't know guys, just heard something, V chip in new televisions mentioned.

[20:01] <honoringGod-VHL> If anyone wants to know how close we are to one world money, check out the following

[20:01] <Judy-VHL> Not sure.

[20:01] <HostBob> Good point, Light :)

[20:01] <honoringGod-VHL> www.mondex.com

[20:01] <light2-VHL> By the word of our testimony and the blood of the lamb

[20:01] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> amen light :)

[20:01] <jazene-VHL> 4Put on the armour of God.

[20:01] <hope-VHL> 3thanks honoring

[20:02] <HostBob> Good answers :)

[20:02] <light2-VHL> Yes and get ready

[20:02] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> and they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony and THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO THE DEATH :)

[20:02] <hands-VHL> 6my mom has been blowing a whistle into the phone I thought she was just paronoid, WERE is MY whistle

[20:02] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> hands don't bother

[20:02] <hope-VHL> 3LOL

[20:02] <light2-VHL> Yes don't love your life here

[20:02] <HostBob> And... rejoice in HOPE!

[20:02] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> listen just disconnect it :)

[20:02] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> and reconnect it :)

[20:03] <hope-VHL> 3that's all we have Bob, is HOPE

[20:03] <honoringGod-VHL> a

[20:03] <Judy-VHL> I am humming the twilight zone music.

[20:03] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I get those hang up type phone calls all the time I don't worry about it :)

[20:03] <HostBob> Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. (2 Corinthians 5:1 NIV)

[20:03] <hope-VHL> 3Oh, NO Judy, not again LOL

[20:03] <HostBob> What's the worst that can happen? :)

[20:03] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> amen Bob :)

[20:03] <Judy-VHL> LOL

[20:03] <light2-VHL> Your probably esp wanted Worthy

[20:03] <honoringGod-VHL> has anyone heard about or seen the new computerchip visa,americanexpress or mastercard?

[20:03] <Mytan-VHL> Amen Bob

[20:03] <hands-VHL> 6worthy I'm going to try what you said, does it have to be bomb?

[20:03] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN BOB

[20:04] <light2-VHL> Anyone with a website is probably being watched

[20:04] <jazene-VHL> 4That they could kill only this physical body.

[20:04] <light2-VHL> No honor tell us

[20:04] <HostBob> Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, (2 Corinthians 5:2 NIV)

[20:04] <hope-VHL> 3MY KIDS, that's really all I worry about!

[20:04] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> the keywords that will set it off where someone has to listen in are like bomb terrorist terrorism etc there's a set of keywords about a year ago there was a campaign to shut down Eschelon

[20:04] <honoringGod-VHL> BofA and Wells Fargo have them and are trying them out on a trial basis on their employees ,I found out from talking to both employees of BofA and WF

[20:04] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13yes bob

[20:05] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> and there were anti NWO people sending out emails full of all kinds of keywords etc

[20:05] <hands-VHL> 6I don't love my life here, but my son is NOT ready

[20:05] <Judy-VHL> Jesus just HAS to be close to calling us home! We can't go on like this much longer. Too much happening too fast.

[20:05] <light2-VHL> So Worthy types them now:-)

[20:05] <sara-VHL> 5

[20:05] <sara-VHL> 5Amen Judy

[20:05] <hope-VHL> 3LOL light

[20:05] <light2-VHL> I know hands I have kids out there too

[20:05] <honoringGod-VHL> all you have to do is go to www.visa.com or www.mastercard.com click on new techknowlogy it's all their

[20:05] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> you all want to escape the trial and testing coming onto this world ? then follow the Lord's command in Joel 2

[20:05] <Mytan-VHL> Not to worry about any of it if your walk in your haome is as good as it is outside your home. It will be a testimony for all. If punished for being in the light, what greater joy.

[20:06] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> he's already given the blueprint to be safe through the trials coming onto this world

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[20:06] <honoringGod-VHL> Amen, Worth

[20:06] <HostBob> Tell us what it says, Worthy :)

[20:06] <HostBob> Welcome, SD

[20:06] <light2-VHL> He also tell us to pray we will be found worthy to escape the coming things

[20:06] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right light :)

[20:06] <sdsister-VHL> 5hello

[20:07] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Listen Jesus said this when he was praying to the Father in his last moments before he paid eternal hell for us hold on let me post it

[20:07] <Mytan-VHL> Welcome SD

[20:07] <light2-VHL> I have prayed that prayer and will continue to pray it for those I love also

[20:07] <honoringGod-VHL> first John 1:9 check it out if you don't know it tonight.

[20:07] <hope-VHL> 3Man, on t.v. RIGHT NOW is MIRACLE BABIES!!!! THEY ARE performing an operation on an unborn baby!!!

[20:07] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13hands, always hold to acts 16:31, They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and you household will be saved."

[20:07] <hands-VHL> 6worthy how long do you disconnect your line? Then they have to call to get back in?

[20:07] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

[20:08] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> just a quick disconnect reconnect will break the reverse electronics in the phone

[20:08] <honoringGod-VHL> I think you would love this music if you went to their web site, you can listen right now...

[20:08] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> they have to call and you have to pick up etc it will generally be on the caller id as unavailable etc

[20:09] <honoringGod-VHL> www.klove.com then click on listen on line, then click your modem speed,

[20:09] <honoringGod-VHL> if you have realplayer

[20:09] <Judy-VHL> 12Hope, I wonder where drb is??

[20:09] <light2-VHL> I don't have caller Id

[20:09] <honoringGod-VHL> Christian music on line

[20:09] <sdsister-VHL> 5i love klove.com

[20:09] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> ok when you get a phone call and there's nobody on the other end etc

[20:09] <grizzman-VHL> couldnt find worthy news tries all lower case

[20:09] <honoringGod-VHL> Amen, sdsister

[20:10] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> and you think it's a wrong number that's probably a disconnect reconnect situation

[20:10] <HostBob> OK- for the newcomers, today in Israel was the worst violence in years

[20:10] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13there are always promises to hold on to.

[20:10] <hope-VHL> 3He'll probably be on in just a few minutes......

[20:10] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> go Bob give us the news :)

[20:10] <honoringGod-VHL> Go BOB, Go Bob.....

[20:10] <sdsister-VHL> 5:-)

[20:10] <honoringGod-VHL> LOL

[20:10] <hands-VHL> 6I know the Lord onlt tarries because of people like my son, His love is greater than mine, but i won't make it easy for the enemies children to spy on me if i can help it

[20:10] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> LOL Go Bobby Go LOL

[20:10] <HostBob> Palestinian protesting the day of Israel's founding erupted into violence

[20:10] <HostBob> :)

[20:11] <sara-VHL> 5Was anyoen hurt

[20:11] <HostBob> Let me quote some from Israel wire

[20:11] <HostBob> Yes Sara

[20:11] <HostBob> On Monday, May 15, the day was among the most violent seen in recent Israeli history, with PLO Authority (PA) paramilitary forces declaring war on Israeli troops and motorists in locations throughout Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Bloodshed and violent riots and warfare were reported in Jenin, Tul Karem, Ramallah, Yosh Junction, aimed at the communities of Bet El, P'sagot, Negohot, in Bethlehem, at Rachel's Tomb, Joseph's Tomb, Atarot Airport, Abu Dis, el-Bireh, Kalkilya and other locations

[20:11] <sara-VHL> 5we need to pray for the peace of Jerusalem

[20:11] <honoringGod-VHL> Bob is the site where you get this from virtual holyland?

[20:11] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Bob has us all waiting in anticipation LOL

[20:11] <HostBob> A general commercial strike was declared to coincide with the official day of mourning. Fatah leaders put out the word – everyone was to take to the streets and engage IDF and border police troops in conflict.

[20:12] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Sara did you know the Lord commands us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem ?

[20:12] <HostBob> I'm getting this from www.israelwire.com

[20:12] <honoringGod-VHL> anyone watch the show JESUS, last night miniseries?

[20:12] <sara-VHL> 5yes

[20:12] <honoringGod-VHL> ok Bob THanks

[20:12] <HostBob> Among the unprecedented events...

[20:12] <hope-VHL> 3REALLY sad news Bob

[20:13] <HostBob> numerous Palestinian policeman opening fire on Israeli soldiers

[20:13] <light2-VHL> I heard that the show Jesus tried to insinuate an affair between our Lord and Mary Magdalene

[20:13] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Psalms 122:6 ¶ Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

[20:13] <sara-VHL> 5amen!

[20:13] <light2-VHL> They are so discusting

[20:13] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13honoring, I started to watch but turned it, i didn't like what i was hearing, how about you

[20:13] <HostBob> and in more than one place mobs of Palestinians attempted to overrun Jewish villages

[20:13] <grizzman-VHL> bob is there talk of retalation angainst the plo

[20:13] <light2-VHL> disgusting

[20:13] <HostBob> and were only repelled by the use of live fire by the Israelis

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[20:14] <HostBob> Grizz, the Likud party is calling for an halt to all "peace talks"

[20:14] <HostBob> in light of how the Palestinians view "peace"

[20:14] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13bob, have things quieted down any now

[20:14] <hope-VHL> 3They're planning something REALLY big, for the July pullout aren't Bob

[20:14] <sara-VHL> 5as bad as it is in Israel, I'm ready to go -

[20:14] <HostBob> Yes, only because it's 2 AM there now

[20:14] <honoringGod-VHL> what was the show saying, cause I watch the whole thing, and thought it was a decent show, better than what else was on. I never thought that about Jesus and Magdalene

[20:14] <grizzman-VHL> do they have the votes to swing this

[20:14] <Gran-VHL> 5:-*:) Hi you guys keep doing something different to get in here but got in anyway

[20:14] <HostBob> Also....

[20:14] <Judy-VHL> 12Hope, the pullout of Lebanon?

[20:15] <honoringGod-VHL> how was it that you got that message light?

[20:15] <hope-VHL> 3LOL GRAN

[20:15] <HostBob> both the Cabinet and the Knesset voted to give Abu Dis to the Palestinians...

[20:15] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13sounds like all hell is about to break loose

[20:15] <hope-VHL> 3YEAH Judy

[20:15] <grizzman-VHL> shalom gran

[20:15] <jazene-VHL> 4Good evening Gran!!

[20:15] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Evil abounds when Good men do nothing

[20:15] <HostBob> and the NRP (one of the religious parties) quit Barak's already shaky coalition in protest

[20:15] <Gran-VHL> 5:) shalom grizz and all hi jazene

[20:16] <HostBob> Yes, IM it is

[20:16] <Mytan-VHL> Hey Gran

[20:16] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13honoring, in the beginning did you hear Lazarus ask jesus if he had feeling for mary

[20:16] <hope-VHL> 3I get SOOOO nervous, it's hard to overcome this nervousness!

[20:16] <hands-VHL> 6honoring, that made Jesus look confused then they started adding things

[20:16] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I did a word study this weekend on a verse and it's interesting what happens when you move the comma in a verse let me explain :)

[20:16] <honoringGod-VHL> I must have missed that part, No IMBE

[20:16] <HostBob> What are you nervous about, Hope?

[20:16] <Gran-VHL> 5if you all are speaking about that terrible Jesus film the other night I turned it off

[20:16] <Judy-VHL> 12I agree, Hope, it's all happening!

[20:16] <Gran-VHL> 5If was so way off scripture it was disgusting

[20:16] <HostBob> Go ahead, Worthy :)

[20:17] <hope-VHL> 3How everything is happening SOOO fast!!!

[20:17] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> saiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

[20:17] <grizzman-VHL> good for you gran nothing but garbage

[20:17] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> saiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in, like a flood the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

[20:17] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amen grizz

[20:17] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> now the comma should be after the come in I found out from a Messanic Rabbi this weekend as we were looking over this passage

[20:18] <honoringGod-VHL> grizz, tell me your thoughts about the show. I must have been asleep or somthing

[20:18] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> how much a difference a comma makes LOL

[20:18] <Judy-VHL> 12That's interesting Editor

[20:18] <Judy-VHL> 12See what you mean

[20:18] <HostBob> Yes, the "flood" is talking about the Lord

[20:18] <hope-VHL> 3there's another one with the comma worthy.......

[20:18] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13Lazarus told Jesus that if he had feelings for her he would have to move quickly, she was being courted by someone else

[20:18] <HostBob> from another translation "For he will come like a pent-up flood that the breath of the LORD drives along."

[20:18] <grizzman-VHL> bob is the prime minster going to lose his power and if so who will reolace him

[20:18] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> there;s lots I love talking to people that know the hebrew inside and out LOL

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[20:19] <hands-VHL> 6WOW, worthy

[20:19] <honoringGod-VHL> So, what did the character Jesus say when Laz said that?

[20:19] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13i totally agree Gran

[20:19] <HostBob> Hard to say, Grizz - they try to put together another coalition if they lose the one they have

[20:19] <sara-VHL> 5worthy - do you speak hebrew?

[20:19] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Jeus did not need anyone to tell him that he was not just a man he knew that from at least the age of 12 when he confounded the teachers in the temple

[20:19] <Judy-VHL> 12Hey SNOW, how ya doing?

[20:19] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> no I don't speak hebrew but I study it : )

[20:19] <HostBob> Welcome, Snow

[20:19] <Gran-VHL> 5He also did not heal a bird or anything else as a child

[20:20] <grizzman-VHL> hi snow

[20:20] <HostBob> That whole passage the Worthy referred to is very exciting, talking about the Lord's return

[20:20] <snow-VHL> Hi friends, thanks for the welcome,,,,,don't have much time , got to get a ballgame.

[20:20] <Gran-VHL> 5the scripture planly tells us the first miracle was the changing water into wine

[20:20] <sdsister-VHL> 5hello snow

[20:20] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> it's amazing to me how the Israel as a nation is blinded because salvation in hebrew is the exact pronouncation of Jesus it's really unreal

[20:20] <honoringGod-VHL> Worthy, if you study Hebrew what does the word day mean in Hebrew? if you know it and is their more than one word to discribe day?

[20:20] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13yes worthy, I heard someone else teach that, the comma was in the wrong place

[20:21] <sara-VHL> 5what is the hebrew for salvation?

[20:21] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> TWOT is the hebrew for day

[20:21] <hands-VHL> 6Did you hear John tell Jesus to repent! that got me fired up I just got madder by the minute and stopped watching

[20:21] <HostBob> Yes, hands, that was pretty bad

[20:21] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes me too

[20:21] <Mytan-VHL> Honor, you can get a concordance that explains each word in hebrew and greek.

[20:22] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13he acted very disappointed and like he was confused about her

[20:22] <Gran-VHL> 5it kept getting worse

[20:22] <light2-VHL> What net work put that show on Hands? we can call and voice an opinion

[20:22] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> yesh-oo-aw is the hebrew for Salvation

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[20:22] <sara-VHL> 5yeshua

[20:22] <Gran-VHL> 5the idea of temptaton by satan was pretty good showing real temptation as He was tempted in all ways even as we are tempted

[20:22] <Mytan-VHL> It will help tremendously in your bible studies. There are also lexicons available and many other books.

[20:22] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right Sara :)

[20:22] <HostBob> Welcome, Lynn!!

[20:22] <grizzman-VHL> hands why did you continue to watch it it made our LORD look like he was weak

[20:22] <honoringGod-VHL> is their any other word that the hebrew lang used for day, innermixed?

[20:22] <Gran-VHL> 5but that was the only thing positve about it

[20:22] <hope-VHL> 3Worthy, in Luke 23:43 Jehovah witnesses (well, one that was trying to talk to me) puts the comma aFTER the word today.....

[20:22] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13you are right Gran, that is the first micacle recorded

[20:23] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> want to win a Jehovah's witness to the Lord use their own Bible to stump them

[20:23] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> let me explain K

[20:23] <hands-VHL> 6I come in from church and it was all ready on

[20:23] <hope-VHL> 3OK

[20:23] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13worthy, do you mean the word salvation translates Jesus

[20:23] <Gran-VHL> 5:) I hate thses hoolywood renditions of any bible story

[20:24] <Gran-VHL> 5hittin wrong keys again

[20:24] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> start in Revelations with them in Rev Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

[20:24] <Gran-VHL> 5but you get my meaaning

[20:24] <sdsister-VHL> 5brb

[20:24] <grizzman-VHL> the all powerful one here on earth will do any thig to make our LORD look

[20:24] <HostBob> Yeshua is the same as the Hebrew name Joshua - meaning Yahweh is Salvation

[20:24] <Judy-VHL> 12Best one Gran is the Virtual Bible, Matthew video

[20:24] <light2-VHL> Noahs Ark was reallllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy BAD

[20:24] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> now you first ask them Who is this speaking here ? they will say it's Jesus etc

[20:24] <sara-VHL> 5thanks Bob

[20:24] <HostBob> You're welcome :)

[20:25] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes Judy you are right I have not seen it but have heard good about it

[20:25] <grizzman-VHL> foolish and discredit him how many none belivers watched and belived this

[20:25] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Jeremiah 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

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[20:25] <Judy-VHL> 12Please get hold of it and watch it. Absolutely beautiful.

[20:25] <Gran-VHL> 5"_) yes light you are sure right about that

[20:25] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> then show them that Jesus is Jehovah

[20:25] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes giizz that is what concerns me

[20:25] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Jeremiah 17 shows that LORD is Jehovah in their Bible etc

[20:26] <hope-VHL> 3Neat

[20:26] <Gran-VHL> 5") also some Christians will say well it was mostly right or just a little off

[20:26] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> also the alpha and omega you can go to that one if need be but avoid Bible ping pong with them

[20:26] <Gran-VHL> 5:) not me no way

[20:26] <honoringGod-VHL> I don't think they would have been as astute as you were, Grizz, I saw and focused on the miricles(sp?)

[20:26] <light2-VHL> Worthy another one for them is show them where Jesus says he is the Good Shepherd

[20:26] <grizzman-VHL> we cant give in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[20:26] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> they will get you off track on what they have been trained on you have to keep them thinking etc

[20:27] <Judy-VHL> 12Poor Jehovah's Witness'!! They work soooooooooo hard for their salvation>

[20:27] <light2-VHL> Then show them Ps 23 where Jehova God is the good Shepherd, then ask , what was Jesus saying???

[20:27] <sara-VHL> 5they are blind

[20:27] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> good point light :)

[20:27] <HostBob> If you want to watch a good video series (surprisingly) rent the TNT series on Abraham, Jacob, Joseph (separate movies) - very well done and surprisingly accurate

[20:27] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes Judy and they really don';t know what they are doing

[20:27] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> why are they blind Sara ?

[20:27] <Gran-VHL> 5:) the peons that is and so indoctrinated

[20:27] <Judy-VHL> 12They are desperate, too, Sara. So sad. Must keep their place in the Kingdom.

[20:27] <sara-VHL> 5because the prince of this world has blinded them to the truth of Yeshua

[20:28] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes they are taught that they must work for their salvation

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[20:28] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right the god of this world has blinded them lest they should see 2 Cor 4:4 so how should you approach a Jehovahs' witness ?

[20:28] <Gran-VHL> 5:) the truth is hidden from them

[20:28] <sara-VHL> 5wea rea ll blind until the father draws us th the son

[20:28] <light2-VHL> And because they loved not the truth, Jesus is the truth

[20:28] <jazene-VHL> 4How many of you out there believe that in some shape or fashion through television and the radio millions of people are brainwashed every day

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[20:28] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> first must bind the strong man with a stronger man then you may plunder his house

[20:28] <hope-VHL> 3I don't worthy......sorry to say

[20:28] <sara-VHL> 5me

[20:28] <Judy-VHL> 12With Love???

[20:29] <hands-VHL> 6I saw Joseph, Bob, it was great

[20:29] <honoringGod-VHL> sure, thats why they call it PROGRAMMING

[20:29] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amen Jazine

[20:29] <HostBob> Yes, Worthy, many Scriptures in the NT that are translated "Lord" referring to Jesus are quoting from the Old Testament Jehovah or Yahweh

[20:29] <light2-VHL> Really honor!!

[20:29] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13absolutely, Jazene

[20:29] <HostBob> Welcome, Mike!

[20:29] <hope-VHL> 3I believe it TOTALLY JAZENE, just look at that MILLION MOM MARCH, great example!

[20:29] <honoringGod-VHL> yep, thats what a guy who use to work for the network told me

[20:29] <hands-VHL> 6very true, jarene

[20:29] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> bind up the false religous spirits in their lives and loose the Spirit of God upon them specifically spirit of wisdom understanding conviction of sin repentance :)

[20:29] <Judy-VHL> 12Absolutely Jazene.

[20:30] <grizzman-VHL> jazene i truly belive the avarage person is

[20:30] <sara-VHL> 5thanks worthy

[20:30] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes hope that is true we don't need new laws just need to enforce the ones we have

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[20:30] <light2-VHL> Well we better be careful not to put any "vidio" in the place of Gods word, which is living and sharper that a 2 edged sword

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[20:30] <HostBob> Yes, not only TV, but movies, books, magazines - all are "preaching" to people their philosophies - we have to choose who we listen to - them or the Lord

[20:30] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN GRAN

[20:30] <Judy-VHL> 12Hi Mike, didn't see you, but welcome.

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[20:30] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Hi Mike welcome

[20:31] <HostBob> Many many voices other than the Lord trying to get our attention today

[20:31] <grizzman-VHL> come home from work set down in front of the tube mind tired and vanerable

[20:31] <mike-VHL> HI

[20:31] <hope-VHL> 3THE visual Bible is WORD FOR WORD from the NIV Light, so it's nice to show it to someone that doesn't read it :)

[20:31] <sara-VHL> 5you said it bob

[20:31] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> remember in these end days there's no shepherd or guide but the Lord Jesus Christ so stay focused on the cross :)

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[20:31] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13we have to remember that we were all blinded at one time, but by God's magnificent grace, our spiritual eyes have been opened.

[20:31] <HostBob> Amen, IM

[20:31] <honoringGod-VHL> Listen... the people who are in charge of the networks, are lovers of money they are of this world, they serve Money, and ratings,

[20:31] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> right becoming new :) AMEN to that :)

[20:31] <HostBob> And only the Lord can make the blind able to see

[20:31] <honoringGod-VHL> most do anyway

[20:31] <Judy-VHL> 12Who saw 20/20 the other night? Didn't see much, but little jewish boy goes to Baptist Church with friends, accepts Jesus and his parents and community are in an uproar.

[20:32] <jazene-VHL> 4How right you are im

[20:32] <honoringGod-VHL> so what ever brings ratings in, they make money

[20:32] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> anyone care to guess what I was before I came to the Lord LOL I bet nobody can guess except hope cause I told her LOL

[20:32] <sara-VHL> 5what happened judy?

[20:32] <hope-VHL> 3I heard JUDY

[20:32] <honoringGod-VHL> you have to ask , whats wrong with people today that they tune in and provide these ratings

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[20:32] <HostBob> Didn't see it Judy, but that's to be expected, right? The thing is, we cannot back down

[20:32] <Judy-VHL> 12Don't want to guess wrong. Tell us.

[20:32] <honoringGod-VHL> it's the loss of christ in their lives

[20:32] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Light2 the other week we were talking about abortion well here is a good website to go to which shows a miracle of God. From Dr. Dobson. www.members.tripod.com/~joseromia/samuel.html

[20:32] <hope-VHL> 3LOL WORTHY, I guess I'm out! LOL

[20:32] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> LOL a Grateful dead head LOL

[20:33] <Judy-VHL> 12DRUG DEALER

[20:33] <jazene-VHL> 4A newspaper reporter?

[20:33] <mike-VHL> BUT ISN'T SOME TRUTH IN TV BETTER THAN NONE AT ALL

[20:33] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> that too LOL

[20:33] <Judy-VHL> 12Oh, Dead Head

[20:33] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> how the Lord brings us out of darkness :)

[20:33] <sara-VHL> 5into his glorious light

[20:33] <HostBob> What you were before? Seminary president? :)

[20:33] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13really at dead head, worthy

[20:33] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Amen to that :)

[20:33] <Judy-VHL> 12Mike, what truth? Can't discern.

[20:33] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Not so Mike

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[20:33] <jazene-VHL> 4what is a dead head?

[20:34] <light2-VHL> I saw that gran He sent me his letter in the mail

[20:34] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> really a dead head LOL too funny me in a tyed dye LOL

[20:34] <light2-VHL> But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

[20:34] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Too much can be read into a small truth

[20:34] <sara-VHL> 5how old id Jazene?

[20:34] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13and always remember that light changes darkness

[20:34] <Mytan-VHL> Mike, Satan mixes truth with a lie to deceive.

[20:34] <mike-VHL> lIKE THIS jESUS FILM NOT A LOT OF TRUTH BUT THERE IS STILL SOME

[20:34] <honoringGod-VHL> Griss, and others, you never know... maybe that Jesus show changed some peoples hearts, we will never know. Even if the depiction was off color.

[20:34] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13not strange at all worthy, just grace

[20:34] <Gran-VHL> 5:( oh good light did you go to it a great picture of the little hand

[20:34] <hands-VHL> 6let's face it we all are new, I think our past is only good to give us compassion for the lost

[20:35] <Judy-VHL> 12But unbelievers can't tell WHAT is true, Mike. Made Jesus look TOO human.

[20:35] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Amen to that hands :)

[20:35] <hope-VHL> 3Even on It's a MIRACLE the other day, after they showed a miracle, which was amazing, then they brought a so called "expert:" on dreams and visions! I was disgusted!!!! She said it all comes from with in us!!!!

[20:35] <light2-VHL> I Jn 2:27

[20:35] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> the anointing teaches us all things ?

[20:35] <Mytan-VHL> jazene, a Grateful Dead FAN

[20:35] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> is that the verse you refer to light ?

[20:35] <honoringGod-VHL> Judy, did the blood that JEsus shed look TOO human?

[20:35] <Judy-VHL> 12TYPICAL HOPE

[20:35] <HostBob> Yes, we can pray that despite the inaccuracies that people come to faith through that miniseries

[20:35] <mike-VHL> I like a Jesus that laughs and plays around

[20:35] <grizzman-VHL> hands i never want to forget where i came from

[20:35] <Judy-VHL> 12Don't understand that Honor?

[20:36] <Judy-VHL> 12Rephrase? What are you getting at?

[20:36] <HostBob> Yes, Mike, I thought that was nice too

[20:36] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> now I have no idea where chat is going LOL

[20:36] <hope-VHL> 3LOL

[20:36] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> it's kinda in a strange mix of different direections LOL

[20:36] <HostBob> It usually meanders a lot :)

[20:36] <light2-VHL> Yes

[20:36] <hope-VHL> 3LOL LOL

[20:37] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> how about we refocus on a new direction LOL Bob lead the way LOL

[20:37] <snow-VHL> I think it is good to watch the movie so when someone tells us about what they saw, we can tell them more about how it actually is. By watching it we can know what they saw.

[20:37] <hope-VHL> 3where is our PROPHECY

[20:37] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Mike we know that Jesus was loving and kind and loved the children and HIs friends and had fun with them while teaching them but we can't make over who Jesus is

[20:37] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> lights a match under Bob this will get him in the hot seat LOL

[20:37] <honoringGod-VHL> you said that the show made Jesus look TOO human, can their be such a thing with regard to his purpose? His blood that he shed on the cross , was that TOO real of a depiction for TV? just a question

[20:37] <Gran-VHL> 5:) He may not fit our agenda of who we want HIM to be and how HE lived HIS life

[20:37] <Mytan-VHL> Mike, laughing and playing around is different than sinning or even considering sin because He is God and God does not sin or lie.

[20:37] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I have to go in like 20 minutes LOL so let's get moving LOL

[20:37] <HostBob> LOL - OK - let's look at Isaiah 59 that was touched on earlier

[20:38] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> ok want me to post it bob ?

[20:38] <mike-VHL> Gran how was Jesus serious all ofthe time

[20:38] <hope-VHL> 3PLEASE, we will NEVER come even CLOSE to depicting our LORD

[20:38] <Judy-VHL> 12They made Him look too human, not God at all. My opinion. I think it stunk.

[20:38] <HostBob> Starting at verse 14.... So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.

[20:38] <HostBob> 15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The LORD looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

[20:38] <HostBob> 16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to intervene; so his own arm worked salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him.

[20:38] <HostBob> Truth has stumbled - sounds like today, huh?

[20:39] <HostBob> nowhere to be found

[20:39] <hands-VHL> 6hope, I can't stand when people have a miracle then credit some dearly departed who they think has BECOME an angel!

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[20:39] <HostBob> And the Lord sees it all

[20:39] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes hands you are right

[20:39] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> 11 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

[20:39] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13for sure bob

[20:39] <HostBob> By the way, when you see "the arm of the Lord" in Isaiah that is a Messianic term

[20:39] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> 12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

[20:39] <light2-VHL> And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

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[20:39] <HostBob> so... the Lord sees it, and is appalled

[20:39] <Mytan-VHL> Yes it does Bob.

[20:40] <HostBob> so He sends "His ARM"

[20:40] <light2-VHL> 2 Tim 4:4

[20:40] <grizzman-VHL> means what bob

[20:40] <HostBob> The Messiah

[20:40] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13truth is so obsureced, only a relationship with Jesus brings truth

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[20:40] <light2-VHL> The arm of the Lord is Jesus Christ

[20:40] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes amen Bob

[20:40] <jazene-VHL> 4Kind of like Shirley McClaine. Seeking after false gods.

[20:40] <HostBob> He put on righteousness as his breastplate, and the helmet of salvation on his head; he put on the garments of vengeance and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak. (Isaiah 59:17 NIV)

[20:40] <hope-VHL> 3Is this talking about the tribulation period Bob, I'm lost here

[20:40] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Amen to that Bob Preach on Brother :)

[20:41] <hands-VHL> 6I don't understand what your meaning is about ARM, Bob

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[20:41] <HostBob> The Messiah is appalled at what has happened in the world

[20:41] <HostBob> the Arm is the Messiah

[20:41] <light2-VHL> Jesus Christ is the Arm of God

[20:41] <HostBob> See Isa 53:1

[20:41] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13sorry, that should be obscured

[20:41] <hope-VHL> 3FUTURE TENSE

[20:41] <Judy-VHL> 12If I am appalled, He's got to be.

[20:41] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> just a statement of the sin state condition of the World hope :)

[20:41] <snow-VHL> :-)2I'm sorry, but I have to run. I will miss the discussion. Will try to catch the next one. May God speak through this chat in a great way. I will miss you all, but please pray for me and my family. Sending love to each of you, in Christ love. Goodbye.:-)

[20:41] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> now Bob finish up cause the great part is coming :)

[20:41] <HostBob> See ya Snow

[20:41] <hands-VHL> 6oooh!

[20:41] <HostBob> Yeah, the good part :)

[20:41] <Judy-VHL> 12Bye snow.

[20:42] <light2-VHL> Lord Bless you snow

[20:42] <hope-VHL> 3God Bless you SNow

[20:42] <Gran-VHL> 5:) bye snow god bless you

[20:42] <HostBob> 17 He put on righteousness as his breastplate, and the helmet of salvation on his head; he put on the garments of vengeance and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak.

[20:42] <HostBob> 18 According to what they have done, so will he repay wrath to his enemies and retribution to his foes; he will repay the islands their due.

[20:42] <jazene-VHL> 4bye snow

[20:42] <HostBob> Talking about Jesus return

[20:42] <hope-VHL> 3You guys are tooooo fast for me : (

[20:42] <IMBECOMINGNEW-VHL> 13god bless you snow

[20:42] <light2-VHL> Come soon Lord

[20:42] <grizzman-VHL> GOD BLESS snow

[20:42] <hands-VHL> 6bye snow

[20:42] <Mytan-VHL> Bye Snow, God bless you

[20:42] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> hope we can talk in icq if you want about this passage :)

[20:42] <snow-VHL> 2THANKS EVERYONE.............BYE NOW.:->

[20:42] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> but the best verse is coming up LOL

[20:42] <HostBob> Ok, we'll slow down....

[20:42] <honoringGod-VHL> by snow

[20:43] <HostBob> questions about those verses so far?

[20:43] <honoringGod-VHL> buy snow

[20:43] <hope-VHL> 3You're a good teacher :)

[20:43] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> :) thanks Hope

[20:43] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Bob they just all excite me about HIS soon coming

[20:43] <hands-VHL> 6with you

[20:43] <hope-VHL> 3:)

[20:43] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> but now we got to get to the best part Bob :)

[20:43] <light2-VHL> go Bob

[20:43] <HostBob> You'll just have to be patient for the good part (in real life too) LOL

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[20:43] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> you are getting my mouth wet over here LOL taking so long LOL

[20:44] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> you got me drooling LOL

[20:44] <hope-VHL> 3Ok, as long as I know we're talking about the future right?

[20:44] <hands-VHL> 6lol

[20:44] <HostBob> Yes, this is all future

[20:44] <HostBob> From the west, men will fear the name of the LORD, and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory. For he will come like a pent-up flood that the breath of the LORD drives along.

[20:44] <honoringGod-VHL> hope,? future

[20:44] <light2-VHL> Not too distant

[20:44] <hope-VHL> 3alright go

[20:44] <HostBob> That was v 19

[20:44] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> come on Bob :)

[20:44] <HostBob> When the Lord returns, people all over the globe will fear and revere Him, right?

[20:45] <hope-VHL> 3yeah, honoring Bob is giving us verses

[20:45] <light2-VHL> Amen Bob

[20:45] <hope-VHL> 3right

[20:45] <hands-VHL> 6go

[20:45] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes Bob

[20:45] <HostBob> And the "pent-up flood" is His anger over the world's rebellion

[20:45] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amen

[20:45] <HostBob> 20 "The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins," declares the LORD.

[20:45] <honoringGod-VHL> honoring bob or god?lol

[20:45] <HostBob> Ahhhhh - that's pretty plain :)

[20:45] <Gran-VHL> 5:) WOW woopie

[20:46] <hands-VHL> 6lol

[20:46] <hope-VHL> 3lol

[20:46] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> The return of Jesus Christ :) the doors of Jerusalem fly open Mount olives split down the middle

[20:46] <HostBob> Come quickly, Redeemer! Come to your throne in Zion!!!

[20:46] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> the return of his saints :)

[20:46] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes amen for sure

[20:46] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> next verse Bob :) best one :)

[20:46] <hands-VHL> 6YES Lord, quickly

[20:46] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN BOB

[20:46] <HostBob> 21 "As for me, this is my covenant with them," says the LORD. "My Spirit, who is on you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will not depart from your mouth, or from the mouths of your children, or from the mouths of their descendants from this time on and forever," says the LORD.

[20:46] <honoringGod-VHL> OK, how soon does everyone think the rapture will happen according to the pre rapt. theory?

[20:46] <Judy-VHL> 12There is alot to be excited about here, I know, I feel it; but I also have such a heavy heart for the unsaved.

[20:46] <hope-VHL> 3graphic , worthy LOL

[20:47] <HostBob> The New Covenant with Israel

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[20:47] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> honoring God don't worry about a rapture when the US is gonna be judged pretribulationally

[20:47] <light2-VHL> 4Want to know my favorite verse??????

[20:47] <HostBob> Welcome, Mac

[20:47] <HostBob> Sure, Light!

[20:47] <mac-VHL> Hi there

[20:47] <light2-VHL> 4And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

[20:47] <hands-VHL> 6The mouths of your children:-(:-):-):-)

[20:47] <hope-VHL> 3alright, worthy don't scare everyone to death here :)

[20:47] <Judy-VHL> 12We are Editor? Tell me more????????

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[20:48] <honoringGod-VHL> saywhat, worthy?

[20:48] <light2-VHL> 4There is going to be some dust licken

[20:48] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I am not worried :)

[20:48] <nega-VHL> hello. what happened to the prophecy chat?

[20:48] <hope-VHL> 3OH NO JUDY

[20:48] <HostBob> Light, that's a wonderful prophecy

[20:48] <jazene-VHL> 4Amen Light

[20:48] <Judy-VHL> 12What?

[20:48] <Judy-VHL> 12Hope?

[20:48] <hope-VHL> 3Hi NEGA,

[20:48] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> oh I don't have time right now I have a very special phone call to make

[20:48] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Hi nega

[20:48] <HostBob> This is it, Nega :)

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[20:48] <light2-VHL> 4Isa 49:23

[20:48] <nega-VHL> 6hi hope

[20:48] <nega-VHL> 6hi every1

[20:48] <Judy-VHL> 12Is that it?

[20:48] <hope-VHL> 3worthy :)

[20:48] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> remind next week to go through the Beasts of Daniel and Revelation K ;)

[20:48] <HostBob> Yes, I'm gonna discuss that, OK, light?

[20:49] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> or we can do it tomorrow or later on tonight ?

[20:49] <Judy-VHL> 12Hope?

[20:49] <nega-VHL> 6I wonder who hes gonna call to

[20:49] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> or send me an email ?

[20:49] <HostBob> We'll be here for awhile

[20:49] <honoringGod-VHL> Worthy, U.S. judged pretrib, you mean no rapture of christians, before the judgment ?

[20:49] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> editor@worthynews.com

[20:49] <hope-VHL> 3Judy, I'm still here, hopefully he'll be on later :)

[20:49] <light2-VHL> 4Worthy check your e-mail cause I sent you the info too

[20:49] <nega-VHL> 6whats the prophecy today?

[20:49] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> 1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

[20:50] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> why do you believe that the Church will escape judgment ?

[20:50] <HostBob> Light, that prophecy you quoted in Isaiah 49 also speaks about the church

[20:50] <mac-VHL> What is post trib and pre wrath? If this has anything to do with the chat.

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[20:50] <HostBob> some say the church is not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures, they are wrong

[20:50] <Gran-VHL> 5:) BOB do you know why we didn't get any newletter about the prophesy for tonight

[20:50] <light2-VHL> 4Amen they are wrong

[20:50] <HostBob> Yes, Gran, Stan was having PC problems today

[20:51] <nega-VHL> 6still is ...

[20:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Judge yourselves in the light of the Word follow the escape plan in Joel 2 and prepare yourselves and the Lord will show you His Deliverance plan for you :)

[20:51] <Gran-VHL> 5:)f oh okay I allways lool for it

[20:51] <HostBob> Shall I bring up that Isaiah 49 prophecy?

[20:51] <light2-VHL> 4No wonder with what is going on in the country

[20:51] <light2-VHL> 4Yes

[20:51] <nega-VHL> 6I went to a site and I didn not know if I cried or laugh...

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[20:51] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Hey all I gotta make a phone call :) How late you gonna be here Bob ?

[20:52] <Mytan-VHL> Bob, Mac must be new and wants to know about pre-trib and pre-wrath. The difference.

[20:52] <nega-VHL> 6call me worthy!

[20:52] <HostBob> probably 11:30 or midgnight

[20:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> LOL nega LOL

[20:52] <nega-VHL> 6I love talking, everywhere :)

[20:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> ok I will be back at 10 PM hopefully LOL

[20:52] <light2-VHL> 4Thats loooooooooooong distance

[20:52] <HostBob> Sorry, Mac, I missed yoru question...

[20:52] <hope-VHL> 3back

[20:52] <HostBob> hard to keeep up

[20:52] <light2-VHL> 4What time zone?

[20:52] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Take care and God bless :) if you want to email me you can at editor@worthynews.com :)

[20:52] <nega-VHL> 6but I have a nice voice ;)

[20:53] <HostBob> ok... and hard to type :)

[20:53] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> EST here :)

[20:53] <HostBob> See ya worthy :)

[20:53] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> see you later on Bob :)

[20:53] <nega-VHL> 6bye worthy

[20:53] <HostBob> Mac, the difference is this...

[20:53] <honoringGod-VHL> sO, AS i UNDERSTAND IT, jESUS will rapture the church (his people)then the 7 year trrib will begin, anyone not a TRUE christian, will be left on earth to go through the trib, then once and if they do except God,then they will be with God, otherwise it hell for them, then after the 7 year trib. jesus second comming happens. Is this right Bob , from the bibles point of view?

[20:53] <Judy-VHL> 12HA HA HOPE

[20:53] <HostBob> That's the pre-trib position, yes Tim

[20:53] <nega-VHL> 6I think it'll happen after 3 1/2 yrs of the 7 years

[20:53] <hands-VHL> 6thanks for all the onfo. worthy, bye, God Bless

[20:54] <hope-VHL> 3WORTHY, don't forget

[20:54] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I want to see the answer to this LOL come on Bob give him your gut thoughts :)

[20:54] <Gran-VHL> 5:) good night hands god bless

[20:54] <honoringGod-VHL> Did Worthy disagree?

[20:54] <Judy-VHL> 12Bye Editor

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[20:54] <Judy-VHL> 12Should I call you Worthy?

[20:54] <nega-VHL> 613My entire family is middle trib LOL

[20:54] <HostBob> Pre-wrath is a little different, believing that Christians will be here for part of the 7 years, but will be raptured before the wrath of God is poured out

[20:54] <hope-VHL> 3I'm NOT a pretriber!!!

[20:54] <Judy-VHL> 12I am

[20:55] <HostBob> Post-trib believes that the rapture and 2nd coming are all one event, at the end of the 7 years

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[20:55] <Judy-VHL> 12Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah

[20:55] <HostBob> Did that help, Mac?

[20:55] <nega-VHL> 13I think its more logical being in the middle

[20:55] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> honoring this is my viewpoint real fast K : ) the church is not taken out till the last day : ) but as the children of Israel were saved through the plagues of Egypt as Noah and his family were saved through the flood so will Christians that are walking just and pure befoer the Lord will be preserved through the tribulation period

[20:55] <Judy-VHL> 12That doesn't make sense, Post Trib.

[20:55] <Mytan-VHL> I think Mac left the room.

[20:55] <honoringGod-VHL> Ok, I can deal with that, no big Deal worthy , Cause I'm going up to the Fathers house anyway.LOL

[20:56] <light2-VHL> 4Well one way or the other were going up or coming down

[20:56] <Gran-VHL> 5:) I have been given the same scriptures for both pre trib and post trib positions anyone have any scriptures

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[20:56] <Judy-VHL> 12Well, what do I know?

[20:56] <HostBob> That's basically my viewpoint also

[20:56] <Gran-VHL> 5they want to share with us confused ones??

[20:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> those that are in the outer court of the temple will be trampled under foot of the heathen Only those in the inner court will be preserved :)

[20:56] <nega-VHL> 13well, even if it's to stay right in the gate, but sure I am going too

[20:56] <HostBob> Hey, what do we all know, Judy? :) We need to keep looking in the Scriptures :)

[20:56] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> so this is the Lord's wakeup call right here K :) this is for YOU now

[20:56] <light2-VHL> 4And the inner court is?????

[20:57] <hope-VHL> 3OH, OH, worthy, you're getting toooo deep here

[20:57] <HostBob> Welcome, Wash

[20:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> 11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

[20:57] <light2-VHL> 4Those walking in the Spirit???

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[20:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> 13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.

[20:57] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Hi wash

[20:57] <light2-VHL> 4Ps 91 was quoted me by the Lord , audibly

[20:57] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> now get right before the Lord :)

[20:57] <HostBob> The main thing is - be walking with the Lord and stay true to your confession of faith, no matter what

[20:57] <hope-VHL> 3IF WE'RE ALL WILLING TO DIE FOR OUR BELIEF, WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK :)

[20:57] <Judy-VHL> 12Hey Bob, I love you, we can disagree in friendship, just like me and HOPE

[20:58] <light2-VHL> 4One particular part

[20:58] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> hey gotta make this phone call :)

[20:58] <HostBob> Yup :)

[20:58] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Love you all with agape love :) Be a Berean and study the word :)

[20:58] <nega-VHL> 1355814417713

[20:58] <honoringGod-VHL> worthy, you talkin to me specificlly?

[20:58] <hands-VHL> 6yes, bob, hope

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[20:58] <Judy-VHL> 12Bye Bye Worthy

[20:58] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> I was talking to the whole room and to myself

[20:58] <Gran-VHL> 5:) night worthy good words there

[20:58] <HostBob> Mac's gone, I guess - it was his question :)

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[20:59] <light2-VHL> 4Abide in him and he in you

[20:59] <hope-VHL> 3icQ BACK WORTHY

[20:59] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Not only his Bob

[20:59] <Mytan-VHL> Mac left the room a while back.

[20:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> this is not something just for one person this is the Lord speaking to his army if You are His then he expects you to be a soldier 2 Timothy 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

[20:59] <light2-VHL> 4Amen

[20:59] <grizzman-VHL> thanx worthy gret job love in CHRIST our SAVIOR

[20:59] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amaen worthy

[20:59] <hope-VHL> 3great verse!

[20:59] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> and he expects you to break free from the chains of this life and break free from the sin in our lives :)

[21:00] <HostBob> Yes, good admonition - let's not play around at this - let's live like He is coming back

[21:00] <jazene-VHL> 4Amen worthy

[21:00] <Worthy_News_Editor-V> Take care and God bless this is really the last time I will say this LOL :)

[21:00] <light2-VHL> 4Whom the Son sets free is free indeed

[21:00] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN

[21:00] <HostBob> :)

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[21:00] <Judy-VHL> 12I like that Light2

[21:00] <hope-VHL> 3:)

[21:00] <jazene-VHL> 4Bye worthy, god bless

[21:00] <light2-VHL> 4He came to set the captives free

[21:00] <hands-VHL> 6put on the chains of our Lord not the worlds AMEN

[21:00] <hope-VHL> 3WE always get side tracked with this LOL

[21:01] <HostBob> :) That's ok :)

[21:01] <Judy-VHL> 12I'm humming "Free" by Steven Curtis Chapman.

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[21:01] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Bob what is up in Israel besides the bombing today

[21:01] <HostBob> Welcome, Rose :)

[21:01] <hope-VHL> 3Good thing you caught me AFTER I changed my point of view Bob, I would have pressed you every time!!! as persistent as I am :)

[21:01] <HostBob> :)

[21:02] <hands-VHL> 6Romans6:16-18 I love it

[21:02] <Judy-VHL> 12Hi Rosesharon, did you like the e mail?

[21:02] <rosesharon-VHL> Good evening everyone

[21:02] <HostBob> Gran, the Knesset and the Cabinet voted to give up Abu Dis to the Palestinians :(

[21:02] <Gran-VHL> 5:( Hi rose

[21:02] <hope-VHL> 3Hi ROSESHARON!!!! Bob, we all met yesterday and invited her in today! :)

[21:02] <HostBob> And we are glad you did! :)

[21:02] <Gran-VHL> 5:) oh no that terrible

[21:02] <rosesharon-VHL> 6did I miss everything

[21:02] <nega-VHL> 13I am busy...

[21:02] <HostBob> Much more to come, Rose

[21:03] <hope-VHL> 3NO, we're just starting!

[21:03] <grizzman-VHL> bob last week you was talking about damascus and how it will be totaly destroyed and to my mind came the verse 2nd PETER 3 12 and how the whole sky will be burned up awsome

[21:03] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God I was rushing

[21:03] <HostBob> and as always, the transcript will be on the VHL page tomorrow

[21:03] <hands-VHL> 6Bob, how could i put up Ro 16-18 without having to type it all?

[21:03] <HostBob> Yes, Grizz!

[21:03] <HostBob> hands, you can cut/paste from an online Bible - Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-V to paste

[21:04] <rosesharon-VHL> 6What are we learning about today

[21:04] <HostBob> Any other thoughts on that, Grizz?

[21:04] <grizzman-VHL> tell us bob how you do this

[21:04] <HostBob> Do what, Grizz?

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[21:04] <Judy-VHL> 12The biggest thing Rosesharon is the big fighting in Israel today, they gave up part of Jerusalem

[21:05] <HostBob> Worthy couldn't stay away

[21:05] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Thank you Judy for the story I loved it and will be passing it on

[21:05] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> ok the person I called is not home LOL

[21:05] <Judy-VHL> 12Good

[21:05] <rosesharon-VHL> 6that is sad

[21:05] <HostBob> Yes, the worse violence in Israel in years today

[21:05] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> so obviously the Lord has me working in here LOL

[21:05] <grizzman-VHL> when PETER wrote this he mentioned the word elemts and probly never understood the true meaning of the word

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[21:05] <HostBob> good point, Grizz :)

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[21:05] <Gran-VHL> 5:) and of course Israle was blamed for the whole things as usual

[21:06] <light2-VHL> 4Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

[21:06] <rosesharon-VHL> 6of course

[21:06] <HostBob> of course - amazing that they could be accused of dragging their feet on "peace"... so let's attack them to further the peace process - DUH

[21:06] <light2-VHL> 4 2 Tim 2:19

[21:06] <HostBob> and the press just goes along

[21:06] <Gran-VHL> 5:) duh amen Bob

[21:07] <grizzman-VHL> so it appears that man might destroy himself with his own necular wepons with GODS help

[21:07] <Gran-VHL> 5:) the press what do they know

[21:07] <hands-VHL> Bob, please e-mail with more detail how to at later date on this cut & paste thing ok holyhands@zionmail.com

[21:07] <Gran-VHL> 5:) they only say what it is expedient to print

[21:07] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> anyone wanna discuss the beasts of Daniel ?

[21:07] <Gran-VHL> 5for their own agenda

[21:07] <Judy-VHL> 12Hey Hands, did you get my e mail story?

[21:07] <Gran-VHL> 5or Clintons

[21:07] <HostBob> will do, hands :)

[21:08] <hands-VHL> Yes Judy, it was great! thanks:-)

[21:08] <HostBob> Which beasts, Worthy?

[21:08] <Judy-VHL> 12Glad you liked it.

[21:08] <rosesharon-VHL> 6One can only pray for the Clinton's

[21:08] <hands-VHL> thanks:-)

[21:08] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> lion eagle leopard bear ?

[21:08] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes and I am guilty of not praying enough

[21:08] <HostBob> go for it - give us your theory

[21:08] <light2-VHL> 4I am interested Worthy

[21:08] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> we all are Gran :)

[21:08] <Gran-VHL> 5:) for our country either

[21:08] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> ok here we go : )

[21:09] <hope-VHL> 3Hey, go for it worthy!!! ;)

[21:09] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I'm game

[21:09] <Judy-VHL> 12Are we the eagle, Worthy?

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

[21:09] <HostBob> chapter, verse?

[21:09] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yeh worthy go go go

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

[21:09] <light2-VHL> 4I hope we all have our citizenship above

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> sorry

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Daniel 7

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> ok Daniel 7

[21:09] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now when we study prophecy we have to understand that the Lord has a special way of giving prophecy

[21:10] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes

[21:10] <hope-VHL> 3You better put on your thinking cap JUDY ;)

[21:10] <hands-VHL> grizz I think the world will mess up with it's own nues too

[21:10] <Judy-VHL> 12I'm too tired, to tell you the truth beautiful Hope.

[21:10] <HostBob> 'The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. (Daniel 7:17 NIV)

[21:10] <hope-VHL> 3LOL

[21:10] <hands-VHL> amen light

[21:10] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yess Bob

[21:10] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Job 33:14 ¶ For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. 15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; 16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, 17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.

[21:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> God speaks 2 times in a vision or a dream

[21:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now the vision given to Daniel was revelent for the kingdoms before Christ's first and SECOND coming

[21:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Lion most scholars will say is Babylon

[21:11] <HostBob> Some commentators believe that the 4 kingdoms are the same as in Nebuchanezzars gold statue dream, others differ

[21:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> modern day country that has a Lion as it's symbol is England

[21:12] <Gran-VHL> 5:) England oh my

[21:12] <grizzman-VHL> usa is part of that lion

[21:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the similiarities between the two empires Nebechuzzar went insane most of the kings of England have gone crazy etc

[21:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> right we have come out of the Lion Eagle

[21:12] <light2-VHL> 4I'll bet the eagle is the states

[21:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> next beast

[21:13] <grizzman-VHL> i think it is plural youg lions

[21:13] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

[21:13] <hands-VHL> 13I think so too light

[21:13] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Bear was Medes and persians

[21:13] <light2-VHL> 4I thought the bear would be Russia

[21:13] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> When the medes and persians destroyed Babylon they killed the entire royal family and changed things in a day

[21:14] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when Lenin came to power he killed the czars in a day the royal family of Russia

[21:14] <hands-VHL> 13modern or present Russia

[21:14] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> there was 8 kings of the medes and persians

[21:14] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> there was 8 primieres of Russia before the USSR fell

[21:14] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when the Medes and persians came to power they had a strict law on religion rmemeber Daniel was thrown into the lions den etc

[21:14] <hope-VHL> 3brb

[21:14] <hands-VHL> 13past and present or soon present

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> communism doesn't allow religion etc

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> next beast

[21:15] <light2-VHL> 4Yes they tricked the king into making a decree, he could not break

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

[21:15] <light2-VHL> 4Because of the law

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Leopard Alexander the Great greece empire

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> modern day country leopard symbol is Germany

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Alexander the great ruled for 12 years before dying at a young age

[21:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Hitler ruled for 12 years before dying at a young age

[21:16] <hands-VHL> 13I didn't know that!

[21:16] <Gran-VHL> 5:) what age was he worthy one

[21:16] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 4 generals divided the empire of Greece

[21:16] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Hitler that is

[21:16] <hands-VHL> 13leopard = Germany!

[21:16] <light2-VHL> 4What about Africa, that seems more leopard like

[21:16] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when Hitler died Germany was divided by 4 countries US England France and Russia

[21:16] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> look at the national symbol of Germany

[21:16] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> look at symbols of countries :)

[21:17] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> anyway back to comparing empire ages :)

[21:17] <HostBob> Yes, this chapter is very significant in end times events - the most important parts speaking of the eventual and complete victory of the Messiah over the "little horn" that speaks boastfully

[21:17] <HostBob> Interesting stuff, Worthy :)

[21:17] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now after the 4 generals died etc the kingdom was basically divided into 2 kingdoms East and West where the Western empire overcame the Eastern empire the Roman empire

[21:17] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when the berlin wall went up

[21:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> you had Nato and the Warsaw pact

[21:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> it was east and west

[21:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the West overcame the East perfect parrellels

[21:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

[21:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> this is the final beast which we are awaiting

[21:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now if these beasts represent modern countries

[21:19] <hands-VHL> 13wow

[21:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now look at Revelation 13

[21:19] <HostBob> "different from all the beasts that preceded it"

[21:19] <Gran-VHL> 5:) double wow

[21:19] <HostBob> A different kind of kingdom from all that were before

[21:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

[21:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now what is missing ? in Revelation 13

[21:19] <hands-VHL> 13??

[21:20] <grizzman-VHL> lion eagle

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the eagle is missing

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the lion is there

[21:20] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes

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[21:20] <hands-VHL> 13oooh!

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the eagles wings were plucked

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> daniel 7

[21:20] <Judy-VHL> 12Oh oh

[21:20] <hands-VHL> 13ouch usa?

[21:20] <light2-VHL> 4Say worthty do many know the symbol for China was the Red Dragon

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

[21:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now where did the US go in the end times ?

[21:21] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> we go to Ezekiel 38 K

[21:21] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Ezekiel 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

[21:21] <HostBob> Welcome, Lori :)

[21:21] <light2-VHL> 4I think us is Babylon the Great

[21:21] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

[21:21] <HostBob> Worthy is giving us his perspective on Daniel 7

[21:21] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

[21:22] <lori-VHL> Hello Bob:-)

[21:22] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now at the same time that Israel is attacked in Ezekiel 38 a evil thought will come to the mind

[21:22] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Hi lore welcome

[21:22] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> to destroy the land of unwalled villages the land that was desolate the time of the prophecy being written but is now inhabited the time it is fullfilled

[21:22] <lori-VHL> Hi Gran. Better late than never, huh:-)

[21:23] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the land where the people are gathered out of all the nations

[21:23] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> what is that ?

[21:23] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes just listen up and you will catch up. LOL

[21:23] <grizzman-VHL> isreal

[21:23] <light2-VHL> 4Israel

[21:23] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amen

[21:23] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Israel was inhabited when Ezekiel wrote the passage :)

[21:24] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Israel is already being attacked in the preceeding verses :)

[21:24] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the US fits this perfectly

[21:24] <hands-VHL> 13I missed something

[21:24] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> why are we attacked We are the allies of israel plus our constitution and our government prevents a New world order

[21:24] <light2-VHL> 4Worthy how does Ezekiel 7 fit into this?????

[21:24] <Gran-VHL> 5:) I must have blinked

[21:24] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Well I hope the Lord comes before all of that

[21:25] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen now let me give you the GOOD NEWS :)

[21:25] <Gran-VHL> 5:) we can use some

[21:25] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> whenever judgment came to a place God always warned his people

[21:25] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen

[21:25] <HostBob> So you are saying US is object of attack in Eze 38 along with Israel?

[21:25] <Gran-VHL> 5:) amen

[21:25] <HostBob> I never heard that perspective before

[21:25] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> In Jerusalem in 70 AD all the Christians were out of the city before judgment came

[21:25] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I hope so

[21:26] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> they left 2 years before judgment came

[21:26] <light2-VHL> 4How do you know that??

[21:26] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God

[21:26] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when the flood came Noah was told to get into the ark

[21:26] <hope-VHL> 3Yeah Bob, I hadn't either, until he told me......pretty interesting...

[21:26] <hands-VHL> 13So the eagle has flown not been trampled??

[21:26] <Gran-VHL> 5:) yes

[21:26] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now in this day and age this is what is about to come to pass

[21:26] <HostBob> I'm not sure I agree with all of it, but interesting nevertheless :)

[21:26] <hope-VHL> 3;)

[21:26] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> if You are walking right pure and just before the Lord seeking his face

[21:27] <light2-VHL> 4How did you find out that in 70 AD there were no Christians??

[21:27] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the Lord will be showing you a deliverance plan in the very near future

[21:27] <hands-VHL> 13flown and hinding in Isreal??

[21:27] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Josphesus talks about it in detail

[21:27] <Judy-VHL> 12This is pretty stimulating, but I had a time limit tonight and must leave now. Sorry. Have a great talk all.

[21:27] <hands-VHL> 13hiding rather

[21:27] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> remember the Word says that in the end days men shall have visions and dreams etc

[21:27] <light2-VHL> 4Ok I have a web site for him and was going start reading about it

[21:27] <Gran-VHL> 5:) where in Josephes worthy I will look

[21:27] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Have a good night Judy

[21:28] <HostBob> Light, I had heard that also - the Christians in 70 AD remembered Jesus prophecies and left Jerusalem

[21:28] <hope-VHL> 3Goodnight Judy! :) God Bless you

[21:28] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> when evil shall abound then grace must abound even more etc

[21:28] <HostBob> Bye Judy :) thanks for coming :)

[21:28] <Gran-VHL> 5:) night Judy

[21:28] <Judy-VHL> 12Thanks Sharon and Hope. Talk to you guys soon. Bye Bob. Bye all!!!!

[21:28] <light2-VHL> 4God Bless Judy

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[21:28] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> in these days the Lord will be revealing to us a great many truths and if you are walking right pure and just before the Lord then he will be showing you a deliverance program for you

[21:28] <rosesharon-VHL> 6May the Lord be with you Judy

[21:28] <hands-VHL> 13where did I read NOT to go to Israel in those days?

[21:28] <grizzman-VHL> GOD bless judy

[21:29] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight Judy

[21:29] <hope-VHL> 3WAIT, WHAT website JOsphesus?????

[21:29] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> everyone will have a different program You have to seek the Shepherd to find your way there will be no guide except the Lord Jesus Christ

[21:29] <light2-VHL> 4Well he told me on April 9th to start living like I only had 6 months

[21:29] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Josphesus was the jewish historian of the first century hope

[21:29] <light2-VHL> 4And to the day on the calender, it is yom kippur, Oct

[21:29] <hope-VHL> 3WHO told you light?

[21:30] <light2-VHL> 4The Lord told me as I was waking a few weeks ago

[21:30] <hope-VHL> 3Learn, something new everyday!;)

[21:30] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Worthy I have a book written by JOsephese can you give me the chapter

[21:30] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> now if you haven't been fasting and praying and getting right before the Lord then start :)

[21:30] <light2-VHL> 4At first I did not know what he meant

[21:30] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> no it's been a while since I looked over all that stuff

[21:30] <light2-VHL> 4But I am starting to see why He has said this to me

[21:31] <light2-VHL> 4Amen Fast and pray for those that need salvation

[21:31] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Light most of the church in the US is gonna go thru the repentance rehilibation workshops the Lord has prepared

[21:31] <hope-VHL> 3WHO said this to you LIGHT

[21:31] <light2-VHL> 4That God will deliever them

[21:31] <hands-VHL> 13the Lord told her

[21:31] <hope-VHL> 3LITERALLY?

[21:31] <hope-VHL> 3VERBALLY?

[21:31] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the Lord expects us to be dressed in white when we come to the Lords supper :)

[21:32] <HostBob> The best part of Daniel 7 is this: This horn (Antichrist) had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully. "As I looked, "thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood

[21:32] <HostBob> before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.

[21:32] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Worthy what about the workshops I have not heard

[21:32] <light2-VHL> 4The Lord had woke me up with this On my husbands BD

[21:32] <hands-VHL> 13why does everyone ask that question?

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[21:32] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the workshops :) the death camps all over the US where they are gonna be looking for heads

[21:32] <HostBob> I'm not sure if I heard right, but we should not set dates at all

[21:32] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> if you haven't been called and hidden by the Lord you can't hide and they will find you

[21:32] <light2-VHL> 4OH my God

[21:33] <light2-VHL> 4What Worthy??

[21:33] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> so time is now to get right with the Lord

[21:33] <light2-VHL> 4I had a dream

[21:33] <light2-VHL> 4What about heads?? I saw body parts

[21:33] <hands-VHL> 13It could be HER limit of days, bob?

[21:33] <Gran-VHL> 5:) worthy what are you talaking about death camps

[21:33] <HostBob> What do you mean, hands?

[21:33] <light2-VHL> 4Yes I saw town with mangled bodies

[21:34] <hope-VHL> 3I think I'm lost here......Light was told that she has 6 months to prepare? I leave for a minute and it's hard to catch up

[21:34] <HostBob> I think I'm lost too :)

[21:34] <light2-VHL> 44Wortht what do you know about death camps?

[21:34] <Gran-VHL> 5:) sounds like we are all lost

[21:34] <lori-VHL> Yeah, I am lost too.

[21:34] <light2-VHL> 4I had dream also,

[21:34] <Gran-VHL> 5:) or confused

[21:35] <Levi-VHL> I just got into our site here and I know I'm lost

[21:35] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen if you see Worthy News go offline all the sudden I didn't take it offline :)

[21:35] <light2-VHL> 4Yes that is what God spoke to me about Ps 91

[21:35] <hope-VHL> 3Now you feel at home LEVI ;)

[21:35] <grizzman-VHL> worthy please back some of this up with bible verses as you go along

[21:35] <hope-VHL> 3That's funny worthy

[21:36] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> then you figure you have roughly 4 weeks before they come looking for you when martial law is declared :) so at that point you better fast and pray like you never did before :)

[21:36] <light2-VHL> 4Worthy please tell about the camps because I want to see if it lines up with dream

[21:36] <Levi-VHL> Hi Hope this is also chip who spoke to you the other night ... hello!!

[21:36] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the camps are set up next to the train tracks there's roughly 75 to 100 set up around the US

[21:36] <Gran-VHL> 5:) WORTHY 4 weeks from when

[21:36] <lori-VHL> I think we need to stick to Bible, folks.

[21:36] <hope-VHL> 3HEY CHIp, LEVI, you should stick to the same name.....:)

[21:36] <light2-VHL> 4Are you possitive?

[21:37] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the camps are already set up I have pictures

[21:37] <HostBob> I think we all know that dreadful days are ahead, if we are realistic - specifically, I don't know, but I would agree that we should stick to the Bible instead of speculations

[21:37] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Scripture name chapter and verse Worthy

[21:37] <hope-VHL> 3WAIT, I didn't know anything about train tracks!!!

[21:37] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen all if you are not walking close to the Lord then time to start doing it :)

[21:37] <grizzman-VHL> where !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[21:37] <light2-VHL> 4I saw a road in my dream, between mountains, God Told me it was the road to destruction

[21:37] <hands-VHL> 13worthy, I missed it, are you saying the camps are already here?

[21:37] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> yes the camps are already established

[21:37] <light2-VHL> 4There were bodies everywhere and everyone was dead

[21:38] <grizzman-VHL> where is all this in the bible

[21:38] <Levi-VHL> I will from now on.. My real name is Levi and my real nickname is chip

[21:38] <light2-VHL> 4The buildings were red brick

[21:38] <Gran-VHL> 5:) where did you get the pictures worthy

[21:38] <HostBob> We didn't ever make it to the best part of Daniel 7: "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.

[21:38] <HostBob> :)

[21:38] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Amen to that Bob :)

[21:38] <HostBob> He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. (Daniel 7:14 NIV)

[21:38] <light2-VHL> 4I know Bob but this may be prophecy also

[21:38] <hope-VHL> 3GREAT, LEVI, just remind us! :)

[21:38] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen forget the death camps if you are concerned about the death camps that means you need to start walking right with the Lord :)

[21:38] <lori-VHL> Yes, Bob:-)

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[21:39] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> nobody wants to go to a death camp You wanna escape these things :)

[21:39] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN BOB

[21:39] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> start fasting and praying and seeking the Lord like you never have before :)

[21:39] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Worthy I do not like your insinuations because you do not know our heats and our Father does

[21:39] <HostBob> 'The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever--yes, for ever and ever.'

[21:39] <light2-VHL> 4No just I wondered what and I could not look upon it, and God got me out of there, but told me it was the road to destuction

[21:39] <Gran-VHL> 5You have still not answered any questions

[21:39] <grizzman-VHL> WORTHY I WOULD LIKE BIBLE VERSES TO PROVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[21:39] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> I didn't make an insinuations :)

[21:39] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen if you think you are walking right NONE of us ARE the Bible declares it

[21:40] <HostBob> Gran, I don't think he was insinuating, just telling us we all need to be walking with the Lord

[21:40] <light2-VHL> 4Grizzman that is like asking for a bible verse to prove the holocaust

[21:40] <HostBob> whcih we do

[21:40] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Micah 7:4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.

[21:40] <Gran-VHL> 5:) well Bob I am walking with HIM and have for many years and yes I want some answers

[21:40] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the best of us are a thorn

[21:40] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> in the day of his visitiation

[21:40] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 5 Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.

[21:41] <grizzman-VHL> no it isnt where is this information coming from man

[21:41] <hope-VHL> 3Just curious, worthy, do you have pictures.....

[21:41] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> yes I have pictures

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[21:41] <hands-VHL> 13I don't think being shocked about the death camps mean I'm not walk close to the Lord, only that i don't like pain lol

[21:41] <Gran-VHL> 5:) what pictures worthy and they came from what sorce

[21:41] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Awake Ministries

[21:41] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Well I am not going to worry about any of this stuff to enclude death camps because where I am there he ( Jesus ) is with me

[21:41] <Levi-VHL> Sorry I got booted off and now I must start all over again trying to figure out just what is being discussed

[21:42] <HostBob> Amen, Rose

[21:42] <hope-VHL> 3That's right Rosesharon :)

[21:42] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Awake Ministries and whare is that worthy

[21:42] <hope-VHL> 3OH NO LEVI

[21:42] <HostBob> If we are honored to die for the Lord, we will

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[21:42] <HostBob> In fact, Daniel 7 hints of that

[21:42] <hands-VHL> 13I don't thik being shock that these death camps are already set up means I'm not walking close to the lord, but that I don't like pain lol

[21:42] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen all I tried to do is warn you all and try to say it's time to start fasting and praying like we never have before :)

[21:42] <Gran-VHL> 5:) that is true Bob but I want the truth here

[21:43] <grizzman-VHL> thays right rose with GOD for who can be against us

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[21:43] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> time to get pure and holy before the Lord and time to seek the inner court of worship :)

[21:43] <hope-VHL> 3I agree with that worthy :)

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[21:43] <Gran-VHL> 5:) of course that is right but how and where to get to the awake ministries

[21:44] <HostBob> Welcome, estelle

[21:44] <Gran-VHL> 5He won't tell us I guess

[21:44] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> awake ministires hold on

[21:44] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen If we die for him than what better way to die I have always been prepared for that if need be because I know he will give me the strength

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[21:44] <HostBob> Welcome, Goose!

[21:44] <djgoose-VHL> thank you bob

[21:44] <hope-VHL> 3What ever we believe, we have to be BLIND if we don't see the end times around us, so the time to get right with GOD is NOW, we shouldn't waitE

[21:44] <HostBob> More from Daniel 7:

[21:44] <HostBob> I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell--the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. (Daniel 7:20 NIV)

[21:44] <hope-VHL> 3wait

[21:44] <Estelle-VHL> Thankyou good evening

[21:45] <HostBob> That is the antichrist, right?

[21:45] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Bob you want my opionion :0

[21:45] <Mytan-VHL> Worthy, are you sure these people @ Awake ministries aren't affilated with JW's

[21:45] <HostBob> Look at the next 2 verses

[21:45] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> no they are not LOL

[21:45] <HostBob> As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

[21:45] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hold on let me find it :)

[21:45] <Mytan-VHL> Welcome Estelle

[21:46] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Awake ministries is with johovah witness right

[21:46] <HostBob> The antichrist wages war against the saints and DEFEATS THEM... just like it says in Revelation - until Jesus comes and they (we) possess the kingdom

[21:46] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> the 10 horns are 10 biospheres of the UN has established are trying to establish :)

[21:46] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> no Awake ministires is nothing to do with JW's LOL

[21:46] <jazene-VHL> 4Yes I believe you guys are right they are a branch of the JW

[21:47] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> LOL now I have to find this LOL

[21:47] <HostBob> OK - Worthy, email me the documentation and will discuss it next Monday :)

[21:47] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hold on I think I have hte link on the end of a FEMA article :)

[21:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I think so I saw a show I think on TBN I was sure it was that

[21:47] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Bob can you give me Stans email address I lost it

[21:47] <Mytan-VHL> Please do Worthy. This week or next as Bob suggests.

[21:47] <hope-VHL> 3Does this awake ministries have a web site?

[21:47] <Levi-VHL> I know I came in late and I hate to make anyone repeat themselves but where to you find this awake ministries and is it easily available in order to check out as to what is being said

[21:47] <HostBob> stan@vcimail.com

[21:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6No not TBN it was the familly channel

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> http://awake-ministries.org/

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> there you go LOL

[21:48] <HostBob> OK - let's move on to another subject :)

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> finally found it LOL

[21:48] <hope-VHL> 3thanks

[21:48] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen

[21:48] <Gran-VHL> 5:) thanks Bob much

[21:48] <Levi-VHL> thank you

[21:48] <HostBob> Everyone take a deep breath or two :)

[21:48] <light2-VHL> 4Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> they print a magazine called the Midnight Herald :)

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Amen Light Daniel 11

[21:48] <Levi-VHL> whew

[21:48] <rosesharon-VHL> 6inhale out hale LOL

[21:48] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hey Goose :)

[21:48] <HostBob> :)

[21:48] <light2-VHL> 4Dan 12:10

[21:48] <djgoose-VHL> he editor :-)

[21:49] <lori-VHL> Well, folks, I am going to call it an early night. YOu all have a nice week & God Bless:-)

[21:49] <HostBob> Yes, the wise shall understand

[21:49] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Love to everyone in the Lord Jesus Christ

[21:49] <HostBob> See ya Lori :)

[21:49] <rosesharon-VHL> 6God Bless Lori

[21:49] <Levi-VHL> Good night lore and God Bless

[21:49] <jazene-VHL> 4God bless lori

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[21:49] <hope-VHL> 3goodnight Lori, God bless you

[21:49] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Worthy did you used to go into CCITY some time ago

[21:50] <Mytan-VHL> Good night Lori

[21:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> into CCity ?

[21:50] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight Lori

[21:50] <djgoose-VHL> what is ccity?

[21:50] <Gran-VHL> 5:) God bless Lori

[21:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> I go into Baltimore City LOL I run a bus minsitry in the heart of the city LOL

[21:50] <Gran-VHL> 5:) A christian forum and chat rooms

[21:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> nope sorry

[21:50] <Gran-VHL> 5:) It is online

[21:50] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Baltimore Maryland Worthy

[21:50] <djgoose-VHL> what does the CCity stand for?

[21:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> yes Baltimore MD : )

[21:51] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Christian City

[21:51] <rosesharon-VHL> 6born in DC

[21:51] <djgoose-VHL> thank you gran, never heard of it.

[21:51] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> kewl :) I was just at DC :)

[21:51] <Estelle-VHL> Goodnight Lori Lord be with you

[21:51] <rosesharon-VHL> 6been lost in Balt. LOL

[21:51] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Well the person I remember was called worthy and had a website worthy news.com

[21:51] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> i go to DC all the time it's amazing how much occultic stuff is in there :)

[21:51] <perot-VHL> As a new believer, 4yrs, this has been very interesting to witness. I will be back but I need to go digest some of the things said by worthy. I just finished a study of both Danial and Revelation and tonight I heard things that raised some concern. Thank you all and GOD Bless.

[21:51] <hope-VHL> 3Bob, where is your crown tonight? ;)

[21:51] <grizzman-VHL> hey my friends i to must blow out the candles and get to bed i love all of you in the name ofour LORD and SAVIOR GOD bless to all see you wed night

[21:51] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> well I have a website called Worthynews.com LOL

[21:51] <HostBob> I am crownless tonight :)

[21:52] <HostBob> Glad to have you, Perot :)

[21:52] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight perot

[21:52] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> but the only chat rooms I go to are this one ChristChat, Crosswalk

[21:52] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Very true I try not to remember long story long deliverance LOL

[21:52] <Mytan-VHL> Goodnight Perot

[21:52] <jazene-VHL> 4Good night perot.

[21:52] <Levi-VHL> Good night perot and God Bless

[21:52] <Gran-VHL> 5:) God bless girzzman take care and come back soon

[21:52] <rosesharon-VHL> 6God Bless Perot

[21:52] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight grizzman

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[21:52] <Gran-VHL> 5Bob has a desicion been made about POLITICS chat night yet

[21:52] <light2-VHL> 4Nite to you Grizz and perot, keep looking up

[21:52] <jazene-VHL> 4Good Nite Grizz and May the Lord continue to Bless you

[21:52] <rosesharon-VHL> 6God Bless grizz

[21:52] <Mytan-VHL> Shalom Grizz

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[21:53] <Levi-VHL> We are well aware of your presense and it is always much appreciated, Bob

[21:53] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Hey all I gotta make a very important phone call LOL

[21:53] <light2-VHL> 4Again

[21:53] <hope-VHL> 3go for it worthy ;)

[21:53] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hey I hope I have you all searching the Word and have exhorted you all to live holy :)

[21:53] <djgoose-VHL> take carel editor :-) Love ya

[21:53] <jazene-VHL> 4Good Luck worthy

[21:53] <Estelle-VHL> Bob or anyone is there a site to go to for beginning bible study?

[21:53] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> listen Jesus is coming back too soon for anyone to get too preoccupied with things of this world :)

[21:54] <Levi-VHL> Good Night worthy

[21:54] <light2-VHL> 4Well our God is a comsuming fire

[21:54] <HostBob> Yes, Estelle....

[21:54] <djgoose-VHL> let me know editor :-)

[21:54] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> so let us go forth in power and might of the Spirit :)

[21:54] <HostBob> Let me recommend one for you

[21:54] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> LOL goose maybe I will send both you and hope the scoop first LOL

[21:54] <HostBob> Not yet, Gran

[21:54] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God for his mercy and strength

[21:54] <hope-VHL> 3YES!!! :)

[21:54] <Mytan-VHL> Goodnight Worthy

[21:54] <djgoose-VHL> you better editor LOL

[21:54] <HostBob> hold on, just a second, Estelle

[21:54] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> LOL

[21:54] <rosesharon-VHL> 6God Bless Worthy

[21:54] <light2-VHL> 4God Bless Worthy

[21:54] <Gran-VHL> 5:) it is still on Wed then

[21:54] <Estelle-VHL> ok

[21:55] <djgoose-VHL> that is if you have contact tonight! ROFL

[21:55] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hey Bob send me an email :) I like to hear your thoughts of tonights chat :)

[21:55] <HostBob> OK, Worthy :)

[21:55] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> LOL no kidding LOL

[21:55] <djgoose-VHL> LOL

[21:55] <hands-VHL> 13Goodnight WorthyNewsEditor

[21:55] <Gran-VHL> 5:) Bob also please give me your email addrtess

[21:55] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> look up for our redemption draws near :) God bless and See you all later on :)

[21:56] <HostBob> I can't find it right not, Estelle - please email me at Bob_Westbrook@zionmail.com and I will get one for you, ok?

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[21:56] <hope-VHL> 3Estelle, www.signministries.org they have a book called The SIGN by Robert Van Kampen.....GREAT BOOK, Makes you really want to study your bible!

[21:56] <djgoose-VHL> I like this room editor, thanks. :-)

[21:56] <rosesharon-VHL> 6It is a nice room

[21:56] <Levi-VHL> How current is that book Hope

[21:57] <hope-VHL> 3 1999

[21:57] <Levi-VHL> tu

[21:57] <HostBob> Yes, we have lots of interesting discussions here

[21:57] <hope-VHL> 3tu?

[21:57] <HostBob> some get a little wilder than others :)

[21:57] <Levi-VHL> short for thank you

[21:57] <hope-VHL> 3:)

[21:57] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I can see that LOL

[21:57] <hope-VHL> 3sorry Levi, I'm new to short words ;)

[21:57] <Gran-VHL> 5Thanks Bob I will be in touch need to go as I have a 10 bible study

[21:57] <djgoose-VHL> do you ever have rif raf come in and try to make a mess of the chat?

[21:57] <HostBob> But no one throws bricks at each other ( so far)

[21:58] <HostBob> thanks for coming again, Gran :)

[21:58] <Estelle-VHL> Thankyou much Bob & hope

[21:58] <Gran-VHL> 5 10 PM that is

[21:58] <HostBob> Yes, Goose

[21:58] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Good night and God Bless Gran

[21:58] <HostBob> occasionally they do

[21:58] <Levi-VHL> Good night Gran and God Bless

[21:58] <jazene-VHL> 4Good nite Gran and God Bless You

[21:58] <Gran-VHL> 5Good night all and God Bless, IN HIM Gran

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[21:58] <hope-VHL> 3Estelle, another great site is www.tribnews.net really interesting

[21:58] <light2-VHL> 4Nite Gran, God bless

[21:59] <jazene-VHL> 4I too am calling it an early evening. May God continue to Bless you all and this Chat Room.

[21:59] <hands-VHL> 13they have a harder time tripping over us here, have to login and be looking for the chat

[21:59] <djgoose-VHL> that is such a downer Bob, I know in Christ Chat we have all kinds come in and try to mess around, that is sad when you want to just have a good Christian time with good friends.

[21:59] <hope-VHL> 3Good night Jazene! :) God Bless you

[21:59] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I went in and looked at that site Hope today but I didn't have alot of time

[21:59] <Levi-VHL> Is that .net or .net.com Hope

[21:59] <jazene-VHL> 4Mytan will talk with you later.

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[21:59] <hands-VHL> 13that is why i come to this chat

[21:59] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Good night and God Bless Jazene

[21:59] <Mytan-VHL> Yes Jazene, before or after you go.

[21:59] <light2-VHL> 4Jaz GodBless

[22:00] <HostBob> Usually this is pretty good, goose

[22:00] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight jazene

[22:00] <Estelle-VHL> thanks hope

[22:00] <hope-VHL> 3Hey, djgoose, I felt the same way........no one even noticed when I stepped in there, unless of course Geo, is in there

[22:00] <djgoose-VHL> hope what was your name in CC?

[22:00] <hope-VHL> 3tribnews.net

[22:00] <HostBob> OK - let's get another topic going :)

[22:00] <Levi-VHL> thanks Hope

[22:01] <Estelle-VHL> when do you meet on line day & time Eastern time

[22:01] <hope-VHL> 3No djgoose it was ELENA 2

[22:01] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Talk about the coming of our Lord

[22:01] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN rosesharon!

[22:01] <Levi-VHL> I guess it pays to get here on time Ha. Ha.

[22:01] <rosesharon-VHL> 6That is true I was Late Late Late

[22:02] <HostBob> I had a rough day today - I'm debating against replacement theologists on Christian bulletin board and I'm getting badly slandered there

[22:02] <hands-VHL> 13lets talk about know the signs without setting the daTE

[22:02] <djgoose-VHL> I don't know that I ever saw you by that name Hope, does my name sound familiar to you?

[22:02] <HostBob> replacement theology is those who say that God is done with Israel completely

[22:02] <hope-VHL> 3Mondays is Prophecy (supposed to be :) ) and Wednesdays is Politics 8:00 P.M. eastern but Wednesdays might change to Thursdays

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[22:02] <Mytan-VHL> Bob what do you mean. what christian bulletin board?

[22:02] <light2-VHL> 4Is there a particular sect that believe that Bob?

[22:03] <HostBob> OK, Hands wants to know what are "signs" - indications of Jesus soon return?

[22:03] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> :) go for it Bob

[22:03] <hope-VHL> 3I hardly ever go on there djgoose, I didn't feel too welcome, so I basically come here :)

[22:03] <HostBob> Lots of mainline denominations do, light

[22:03] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Why would God be done with his people I don't think he gives up at least he didn't give up on me

[22:03] <HostBob> Anyone think of any "signs" that the Bible speaks of?

[22:03] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Hey Diane and Elena she still wasn't home this is the update :)

[22:03] <HostBob> Yes, Rose :)

[22:04] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Days of Noah :) Days of Lot :)

[22:04] <djgoose-VHL> LOL i figured that much Editor. LOL

[22:04] <hope-VHL> 3:(

[22:04] <light2-VHL> 4Why don't you call tomorrow Worthy :-)

[22:04] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> LOL well the Lord is teaching me patience I suppose LOL

[22:04] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> I will :)

[22:04] <hope-VHL> 3The signs in the sixth seal?

[22:04] <djgoose-VHL> keep trying, you know it is God's will. hehehe

[22:04] <hands-VHL> 13anytime a Christian trys to show a nonChristian that the sign of the times says repent, they say we are seting dates

[22:04] <HostBob> What did Jesus mean when He said "Remember Lot's wife"?

[22:04] <Levi-VHL> That is what Zola Levitt is continuallly striving to get people to understand and that is that Israel has everything to do in present day prophecy

[22:05] <hope-VHL> 3SHE LOOKED BACK?

[22:05] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> turning back to the World after you have entered into his light :)

[22:05] <HostBob> Yes, Israel is the centerpiece of God's prophetic plan for history

[22:05] <HostBob> why did she look back?

[22:05] <light2-VHL> 4Matt, 24, cp Mark 13

[22:05] <djgoose-VHL> Lots wife had her mind set on the worldly things not what was promised, sight unseen.

[22:05] <rosesharon-VHL> 6yeah she did and look what happened to her

[22:05] <Mytan-VHL> Not to look back at our former life with longing/

[22:05] <light2-VHL> 4And I forget the chap to cp in Luke anyone?

[22:06] <HostBob> Yes, Mytan, Goose

[22:06] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2 different places light :)

[22:06] <HostBob> Remember Lot's wife! Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.

[22:06] <rosesharon-VHL> 6My life was hell I don't look back other than to say thank you Lord

[22:06] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Amen to that sharon :)

[22:06] <light2-VHL> 4She disobeyed the messengers of God

[22:06] <HostBob> what did he mean about trying to "keep our lives"?

[22:06] <light2-VHL> 4Yes in other words, this world is NOT our home

[22:06] <hands-VHL> 13one foot in the world

[22:06] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> as Revelations says they loved not their lives unto the death :)

[22:06] <Mytan-VHL> To live to keep the physical

[22:07] <rosesharon-VHL> 6having one foot in the world and one in him

[22:07] <Estelle-VHL> does anyone beleive in reincarnation and is it the bible

[22:07] <hope-VHL> 3Lives for worldly things, doesn't look to heavenly rewards?

[22:07] <light2-VHL> 4Dont fear them that can kill the body , but can not touch the soul

[22:07] <HostBob> Good question, Estelle - no, it is not in the Bible...

[22:07] <djgoose-VHL> I do not believe in reincarnation

[22:07] <HostBob> the Bible says this....

[22:07] <hands-VHL> 13I don't estelle

[22:07] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> no it's not in the Bible Estelle if you want ot know the orgins of reincarnation we can discuss it

[22:07] <light2-VHL> 4No

[22:07] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Not me I am going to have a new body in heaven with my Lord

[22:08] <djgoose-VHL> Amen Rose!

[22:08] <HostBob> Man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment (Hebrews 9:27 NIV)

[22:08] <Levi-VHL> absolutely not

[22:08] <Mytan-VHL> To be carnally minded is unto death

[22:08] <djgoose-VHL> Who here believes that animals (pets) will be in Heaven? :-)

[22:08] <HostBob> We only get once go-round :) And then we give an account to the Lord

[22:08] <hope-VHL> 3WHO in their right mind, would WANT to come back here? I am LONGING TO BE with HIM!

[22:08] <light2-VHL> 4But as many as are lead by the Spirit of God , they are the sons of God

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[22:08] <rosesharon-VHL> 6don't want judgement the Blood of the Lamb will do Praise God

[22:08] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> :) hope :)

[22:09] <HostBob> Estelle, Jesus taught RESURRECTION, not reincarnation - that is our hope as Christians

[22:09] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN BOB

[22:09] <HostBob> just as Jesus was raised from the dead, so too will all who believe in Him

[22:09] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen Bob

[22:09] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Thank you Lord

[22:09] <pebbles-VHL> estelle where are you from?

[22:09] <HostBob> He defeated death

[22:09] <HostBob> on our behalf

[22:09] <hands-VHL> 13do you believe in reincarnation, estelle

[22:09] <Mytan-VHL> estelle, God said it is appointed to man to die once then the judgement

[22:09] <Estelle-VHL> I just wanted to know I was also tought not to beleive in incar.

[22:10] <HostBob> Lots of people do believe in that today, sadly

[22:10] <HostBob> it is a false hope

[22:10] <HostBob> Jesus offers genuine hope

[22:10] <hands-VHL> 13amen

[22:10] <djgoose-VHL> they think if they are reincarnated they have a 2nd chance to get it right.

[22:10] <light2-VHL> 4That is why India is such a poor nation, all their animals esp are people come back

[22:10] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Bob I wouldn't see that as any hope at all think about it who would want to come back over and over

[22:10] <hope-VHL> 3Man, that would be a depressing, hope for me!

[22:10] <Mytan-VHL> Jesus offers the only hope.

[22:11] <djgoose-VHL> Amen

[22:11] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen Mytan Jesus Jesus

[22:11] <hope-VHL> 3We're in the same boat rosesharon ;)

[22:11] <HostBob> Well, Rose, if one has no solution to death, then the mind has to invent one of some kind

[22:11] <pebbles-VHL> hello everyone I am new here can you help me out?

[22:11] <rosesharon-VHL> 6That is a real sad invention don't you think

[22:12] <Mytan-VHL> that is true Bob.

[22:12] <HostBob> Welcome, pebbles!

[22:12] <hands-VHL> 13I have always explained to go to hell would be to die forever to my boys when they were little

[22:12] <hope-VHL> 3HI PEbbles!!!! :) WELCOME

[22:12] <HostBob> Yes, it's sad

[22:12] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hi Pebbles I'm new too

[22:12] <HostBob> What can we do for you, Pebbles?

[22:12] <pebbles-VHL> :-)

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[22:12] <djgoose-VHL> hi pebbles, I'm new to this chat also. :-)

[22:12] <HostBob> Hello, Rhema

[22:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> hello Rhema :)

[22:12] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I am glad I know the Lord and he found me Oh how I praise him

[22:12] <Estelle-VHL> Does the devil put it in our heads with Tv about reincar

[22:12] <Rhema-VHL> howdy!

[22:12] <djgoose-VHL> RHEMA!!!!!!!!!!!

[22:13] <Rhema-VHL> you look familiar...so does gooser LOL

[22:13] <pebbles-VHL> just kinda wanting to know how this works

[22:13] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hi Rhema

[22:13] <HostBob> Yes, Estelle, the devil offers all kinds of counterfeits to deceive people

[22:13] <Levi-VHL> The Lord will draw you unto Himself as he is already doing Estelle! Yoy shall seek me and FIND me if you search diligently with all your heart

[22:13] <djgoose-VHL> LOL

[22:13] <Estelle-VHL> hi Rhema

[22:13] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> yes estelle the TV is full of new age garbage which really is old age occultism

[22:13] <Rhema-VHL> hello everyone

[22:13] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen Levi

[22:13] <pebbles-VHL> Is there a specific topic tonight?

[22:13] <djgoose-VHL> I'll tell you the devil is surely working over time in this world right now, he certainly knows his days are numbered.

[22:13] <HostBob> Which is why we must rely on what God has said - the Bible

[22:13] <HostBob> Pebbles, we kinda hop all over the place :)

[22:13] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Amen to that Bob :)

[22:13] <Mytan-VHL> No Estelle because many religons believed in this before TV came about

[22:14] <rosesharon-VHL> 6That is true and he isn't holding back any punch's

[22:14] <HostBob> but topic suggestions are always welcomed :)

[22:14] <hands-VHL> 13yes he is goose and for nothing he will loose!

[22:14] <light2-VHL> 4Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

[22:14] <HostBob> Yeah, his goose is cooked :)

[22:14] <HostBob> sorry, couldn't resist :)

[22:14] <djgoose-VHL> Amen hands PTL

[22:14] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Amen to that light :)

[22:14] <hope-VHL> 3Hey Bob, did you hear about the 3rd secret of Fatima being revealed? Or anyone else?

[22:14] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I like that Bob

[22:14] <light2-VHL> 4John 6:68-69

[22:14] <HostBob> Yes, hope I heard that

[22:14] <djgoose-VHL> honk honk LOL

[22:14] <pebbles-VHL> does anyone have any information on rapture?

[22:14] <HostBob> :)

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[22:15] <light2-VHL> 4yes about the fatima thing

[22:15] <pebbles-VHL> is it post or pre? Rapture?

[22:15] <hands-VHL> 13lol Bob

[22:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> :) pebbles

[22:15] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hope I tried to get that and I couldn't find it

[22:15] <djgoose-VHL> LOL

[22:15] <Mytan-VHL> There you have it Bob. Tell Pebbles about the rapture.

[22:15] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Oh good my favorite

[22:15] <light2-VHL> 4And I also saw the article you put up about that sect in Uganda Worthy,

[22:15] <djgoose-VHL> I think most of us are praying for pre trib but planning for post trib lol

[22:15] <HostBob> Should we take a vote, pebbles? :) you will find both opinions in here :)

[22:15] <hope-VHL> 3rosesharon, I saved it..........I can e-mail it to you if you want

[22:15] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> yes I did :)

[22:15] <light2-VHL> 4They were soooo decieved

[22:15] <pebbles-VHL> am i in for it?

[22:16] <HostBob> In for it?

[22:16] <hands-VHL> 13yes lol

[22:16] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Yes please rosesharon@alltel.net

[22:16] <Mytan-VHL> Well Pebbles, I am a pre-triber

[22:16] <pebbles-VHL> asking a question about rapture?lol

[22:16] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> pebbles are you walking right with the Lord ? that's the question :) then you will know if you are in for it if you are not then start and start fasting and praying like you never have before :)

[22:17] <Estelle-VHL> hope what about the 3rd secret of Fatima?

[22:17] <hope-VHL> 3I'm a PRE-wrather! used to be a pretriber ;)

[22:17] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> pebbles the Lord has a deliverance program for sure :) I will agree with the pre tribbers on that aspect of their theory :)

[22:17] <HostBob> I think we should not be so dogmatic about any rapture position as to rule out other possibilities

[22:17] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I'm not sure which I am I just know I'm ready when he is

[22:17] <Levi-VHL> Estelle, The book of John says that as many as RECEIVED Him , to them gave he power to BECOME the sons of God even to them that believe on his name: Which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man but of God

[22:17] <hands-VHL> 13amen Bob!

[22:17] <light2-VHL> 4Amen Levi

[22:17] <pebbles-VHL> well my husband and I are fairly new converts,so we have a lot of questions

[22:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> Bob wanna know my position LOL

[22:18] <pebbles-VHL> and yes we are walking with God

[22:18] <Rhema-VHL> don't ask him, bob LOL

[22:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> I am a panmillenialist LOL

[22:18] <hope-VHL> 3I don't rule anything out Bob, I'm just not counting on it!

[22:18] <hope-VHL> 3:)

[22:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> it will all pan out in the end LOL

[22:18] <HostBob> You see, we look at it from OUR perspective all too much - when will WE get raptured - the Scriptures focuses on God's perspective

[22:18] <light2-VHL> 4What is that Pan??

[22:18] <djgoose-VHL> LOL

[22:18] <Mytan-VHL> Though Pebbles, it really does not matter. If we belong to God then we will go in His time and whatever we suffer for His names sake is joy.

[22:18] <hands-VHL> 13lol

[22:18] <rosesharon-VHL> 6What is that Worth

[22:18] <pebbles-VHL> what does scripture say?

[22:18] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> it will all pan out in the end panmillenialist LOL

[22:18] <HostBob> Amen, Mytan

[22:18] <hope-VHL> 3pan out in the end

[22:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> WE WIN CHURCH :)

[22:19] <light2-VHL> 4I think I will just wait and see :-):->

[22:19] <Mytan-VHL> Did you get that from Hank Hanegraff Worthy

[22:19] <rosesharon-VHL> 6You guys lost me

[22:19] <Rhema-VHL> 1010brb

[22:19] <HostBob> Take note of the many many places that describe the Lord's coming - very few talk about US, really :)

[22:19] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> no I don't listen to hank hanegraff :)

[22:19] <hope-VHL> 3yeah, but that makes light of the whole thing, I think..........since I used to be soooo confused (the pan thing)

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[22:20] <HostBob> By the way, if we miss a question, please repeat it - sometimes hard to take note of everything happenign here

[22:20] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2well the bottom line is that the end is soon upon us :) so time to get ready :)

[22:20] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hope was the pan thing Help!!

[22:21] <light2-VHL> 4The very best person in all the world to ask questions is the Lord, He will direct you by His Spirit when you are sincere and truely seeking Him

[22:21] <djgoose-VHL> boy Editor I haven't heard that word from you in AGES!! Bottomline!!! LOL

[22:21] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2let's just stop and take a deep breath LOL

[22:21] <pebbles-VHL> host bob is there specific scripture to back up the question of pre or post?

[22:21] <light2-VHL> 4With ALL your heart

[22:21] <HostBob> Yes, light

[22:22] <HostBob> Pebbles, there are lots - and depending on the person's perspective they would cite different ones

[22:22] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2pebbles you have to look at the entire word of God :) you can take one verse and make an arguement either way but in context of the whole word of God there's just one answer :)

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[22:22] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Jesus is soon coming back :)

[22:22] <pebbles-VHL> yes?

[22:22] <light2-VHL> 4It is called the study of eschatology

[22:22] <pebbles-VHL> i see

[22:22] <djgoose-VHL> We must wait and see. It is God's plan not ours. :-) PTL

[22:22] <HostBob> VHL has a decent summary of the various viewpoints on their "prophecy" page

[22:22] <pebbles-VHL> i fully agree

[22:23] <hands-VHL> 13oops got bumped

[22:23] <Estelle-VHL> Goodnight all I shall be back thankyou for the info. God Bless

[22:23] <pebbles-VHL> as a new christian we feel the most important part is...

[22:23] <HostBob> And remember, VHL also has forums where can discuss your viewpoints and questions

[22:23] <djgoose-VHL> God Bless You Estelle,

[22:23] <pebbles-VHL> winning souls for christ

[22:23] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Good Bless Estelle

[22:23] <HostBob> See ya, Estelle!!

[22:23] <HostBob> Glad to have you with us!

[22:23] <pebbles-VHL> bye estelle

[22:23] <hands-VHL> 13goodnight estelle

[22:24] <Mytan-VHL> Good night Estelle. Please come back.

[22:24] <light2-VHL> 4Yes but as you get older in the Lord, You realize that God is the won bringing the believers in, we just have to shine the light

[22:24] <light2-VHL> 4one

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[22:24] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2one thing I have learned pebbles is this :) 1 Corinthians 8:2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

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[22:24] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen Light

[22:24] <pebbles-VHL> i see

[22:25] <hands-VHL> 13Well I have to go , goodnight all, God bless

[22:25] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Good night and God Bless you Hands

[22:25] <pebbles-VHL> yes i am definatly not worthy of the credit

[22:25] <light2-VHL> 4When I first got saved I was 19 and "was called" a bible pounder!!

[22:25] <HostBob> Bye, hands :)

[22:25] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2the farther you grow in the Lord pebbles the more questions you will have :) hard ot explain but the closer you get to the Lord the more dumbfounded you feel LOL

[22:25] <djgoose-VHL> night hands, God Bless You

[22:25] <light2-VHL> 4Now I pray alot more for people to get saved

[22:25] <Mytan-VHL> Good night hands. Blessings from God till next week

[22:25] <pebbles-VHL> im just doing my fathers will

[22:25] <djgoose-VHL> Amen to that Editor

[22:25] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2nighters hands :)

[22:26] <hands-VHL> 13:-)

[22:26] <Levi-VHL> Words no truer said worthy

[22:26] <light2-VHL> 4Hands God Bless

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[22:26] <Rhema-VHL> 1010back now

[22:26] <rosesharon-VHL> 6welcome back Rhema

[22:26] <Rhema-VHL> 1010thanks :-)

[22:27] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2lets take a deep breath and exhale LOL

[22:27] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I told you to not hold your breath while I was gone LOL

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[22:27] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2now you have just breathed in and out like millions of atoms and the Lord knows where every one of them went :)

[22:27] <rosesharon-VHL> 6lol

[22:27] <hope-VHL> 3rosesharon, I JUST e-mailed you some information! ;)

[22:28] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL Rhema they don't know us in here so let's keep it calm tonight LOL

[22:28] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Oh thank you Hope

[22:28] <djgoose-VHL> keep it calm just tonight Editor? ROFL

[22:28] <HostBob> In light of the violence today in Israel...

[22:28] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I'm just as calm as can be LOL

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[22:28] <rosesharon-VHL> 6yes tell us Bob

[22:28] <HostBob> Here is a Bible promise: No longer will violence be heard in your land, nor ruin or destruction within your borders, but you will call your walls Salvation and your gates Praise. (Isaiah 60:18 NIV)

[22:29] <hope-VHL> 3MY opinion, GREAT books on the rapture are The Sign By Robert Van Kampen and also The Rapture Question Answered Plain and simple same author....:) I couldn't resist!

[22:29] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Amen to that Bob :)

[22:29] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL hope

[22:29] <light2-VHL> 4Those poor soldiers in Lebanon, we better be praying they don't turn on Israel,

[22:29] <HostBob> The sons of your oppressors will come bowing before you; all who despise you will bow down at your feet and will call you the City of the LORD, Zion of the Holy One of Israel. (Isaiah 60:14 NIV)

[22:29] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God

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[22:29] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2wanna hear my opionion on the very best book on the rapture ?

[22:30] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Bible :)

[22:30] <Mytan-VHL> Yes Bob and praise be to God for those His Word.

[22:30] <HostBob> The sun will no more be your light by day, nor will the brightness of the moon shine on you, for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory. (Isaiah 60:19 NIV)

[22:30] <light2-VHL> 4Amen Worthy

[22:30] <HostBob> Yes, the best :)

[22:30] <light2-VHL> 4And let Gods Spirit lead you

[22:30] <hope-VHL> 3CUTE worthy! :) These books REALLY show you where it is in the bible....they make you want more and more of it!!! NO KIDDING

[22:30] <light2-VHL> 4The words that I speak are Spirit and truth

[22:31] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2and don't listen to man's teachings for sure the spirit has given you the annointing to reveal what he needs to reveal :)

[22:31] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL hope I couldn't resist LOL

[22:31] <rosesharon-VHL> 6What does Gods word say about the land being turned over to another country Bob

[22:31] <light2-VHL> 4My Sheep know my voice

[22:31] <HostBob> Yes, it's amazing what the Lord will teach you if you listen to His Word

[22:31] <HostBob> turned over, Rose?

[22:31] <hope-VHL> 3Yeah, worthy, but MOST of us have been TAUGHT something a viewpoint in CHURCH, and UNLESS we really dig for ourselves, we'll never know

[22:31] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2bah bah I got those words down great :)

[22:32] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2:) hope

[22:32] <HostBob> you mean as in giving land to the Palestinians?

[22:32] <rosesharon-VHL> 6yes

[22:32] <HostBob> it says a lot....

[22:32] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2the coventant of hell and death huh :)

[22:32] <light2-VHL> 4Hope when you draw near to Christ , he will teach you

[22:32] <rosesharon-VHL> 6you said they did that today right

[22:32] <hope-VHL> 3I was one that believed EVERYTHING (even though I questioned alot) that my pastor said....until I woke up!

[22:33] <HostBob> Yes, I'm looking, Rose :)

[22:33] <rosesharon-VHL> 6ok I'll wait

[22:33] <light2-VHL> 4I could feel the Spirit being grieved when false things were being taught

[22:33] <rosesharon-VHL> 6like your heart breaking

[22:33] <HostBob> OK - here is one, from Ezekiel 36....

[22:34] <rosesharon-VHL> 6ok

[22:34] <HostBob> interesting because the prophecy is directly TO the land....

[22:34] <light2-VHL> 4Yes

[22:34] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2go bobby go LOL

[22:34] <djgoose-VHL> hope I was such a good Christian I became stagnant and just didn't get anything out of it anymore but kept going just cause I knew I needed to and then I met my friends on the net and my life hasn't been the same since!!! PRAISE THE LORD!!!

[22:34] <HostBob> "Son of man, prophesy to the mountains of Israel and say, 'O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD.

[22:34] <HostBob> This is what the Sovereign LORD says: The enemy said of you, "Aha! The ancient heights have become our possession."'

[22:35] <HostBob> (the "ancient heights" is what is now called the West Bank )

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[22:35] <HostBob> Therefore prophesy and say, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because they ravaged and hounded you from every side so that you became the possession of the rest of the nations and the object of people's malicious talk and slander,

[22:35] <hope-VHL> 3I spent 2 years digging on my own......then I met my online buddies.....and I'm learning something everyday! :)

[22:35] <djgoose-VHL> Amen Hope :-)

[22:35] <HostBob> (sounds like todays news huh? malicious talk, ravaging and hounding them)

[22:36] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2:) hope and goose

[22:36] <HostBob> therefore, O mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Sovereign LORD: This is what the Sovereign LORD says to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys, to the desolate ruins and the deserted towns that have been plundered and ridiculed by the rest of the nations around you--

[22:36] <djgoose-VHL> :-) Editor

[22:36] <djgoose-VHL> :-) Rhema

[22:36] <hope-VHL> 3brb, another chat coming in

[22:36] <HostBob> this is what the Sovereign LORD says: In my burning zeal I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Edom, for with glee and with malice in their hearts they made my land their own possession so that they might plunder its pastureland.'

[22:36] <Rhema-VHL> 1010yes gooser? :-)

[22:36] <HostBob> (you see, God is taking note of waht is happening, is none too happy about it)

[22:36] <djgoose-VHL> :-)

[22:37] <HostBob> the Palestinians attempting to steal the land

[22:37] <HostBob> Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and hills, to the ravines and valleys: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I speak in my jealous wrath because you have suffered the scorn of the nations.

[22:37] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Wow

[22:37] <Levi-VHL> 1 John 2:27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you and ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things and is truth and is no lie and even as it hath taught you ye shall abide in Him

[22:37] <HostBob> Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I swear with uplifted hand that the nations around you will also suffer scorn.

[22:37] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2amen Levi :)

[22:37] <HostBob> "'But you, O mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home.

[22:38] <HostBob> I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown, and I will multiply the number of people upon you, even the whole house of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt.

[22:38] <HostBob> will increase the number of men and animals upon you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

[22:38] <HostBob> (see, the return of Israel back to the land is one of the great witnesses of who the Lord is :)

[22:38] <rosesharon-VHL> 6May the Lord show his mighty hand

[22:39] <HostBob> I will cause people, my people Israel, to walk upon you. They will possess you, and you will be their inheritance; you will never again deprive them of their children.

[22:39] <Mytan-VHL> Amen Bob.

[22:39] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise the Name of Jesus

[22:39] <HostBob> 15 No longer will I make you hear the taunts of the nations, and no longer will you suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall, declares the Sovereign LORD.'"

[22:39] <HostBob> Yes, God's plan is wonderful, isn't it?

[22:40] <HostBob> But many oppose it, even so-called Christians

[22:40] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Wow is the only thing I can say

[22:40] <Mytan-VHL> Wonderful!!!

[22:40] <HostBob> Here's more :)

[22:40] <rosesharon-VHL> 6go

[22:40] <HostBob> the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their

[22:40] <HostBob> eyes.

[22:41] <djgoose-VHL> Hey folks, I gotta go for the night. I will be back :-) Thank you for the uplifting conversation. Good night and may God Richly Bless you :-)

[22:41] <Rhema-VHL> 1010isn't there scripture concerning when the time will almost be here when Jesus returns and the inherited land will transform from desert back to fertile soil?

[22:41] <HostBob> See, God is going to show the holiness of His great name by what He does for Israel!!!

[22:41] <HostBob> See ya goose! :)

[22:41] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Isaiah Rhema

[22:41] <HostBob> Yes, Rhame, there is

[22:41] <Rhema-VHL> 1010bye gooser, lufya

[22:41] <light2-VHL> 4nightdjg/God Bless

[22:41] <Rhema-VHL> 10where at in Isaiah?

[22:41] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2can anyone read German ?

[22:41] <rosesharon-VHL> 6God Bless

[22:41] <djgoose-VHL> nighters and lufya back :-)

[22:41] <Mytan-VHL> Later Goose. God bless.

[22:41] <HostBob> Now look at this...

[22:42] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2I was just sent a email and it's in german ?

[22:42] <Levi-VHL> bye Goose come back again God Bless

[22:42] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I'm looking

[22:42] <Rhema-VHL> 1010no hablo german

[22:42] <light2-VHL> 4Use Av translations it is free on net

[22:42] <djgoose-VHL> who sent you german email editor?

[22:42] <HostBob> "'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

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[22:42] <HostBob> First, He says He will bring them back. That has happened. Then, He says He will give them a new heart

[22:43] <HostBob> That has started

[22:43] <HostBob> slowly

[22:43] <rosesharon-VHL> 6That is so pretty where are you reading from

[22:43] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2isaiah 35 is one passage Rhema

[22:43] <HostBob> Ezekiel 36

[22:43] <Mytan-VHL> By renewing their temple?

[22:43] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Oh wow I like that

[22:43] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Isaiah 43:19-20

[22:43] <rosesharon-VHL> 6The temple is that in the making now

[22:44] <Rhema-VHL> 1010ok, I was close to it...I was in Isaiah 40:31, what beautiful scripture

[22:44] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Isaiah 51:3

[22:44] <Mytan-VHL> The water is Jesus and that is the only water that can cleanse.

[22:44] <light2-VHL> 4Amen Mytan

[22:44] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Isaiah 51:3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

[22:44] <HostBob> Yes, Mytan, just as all of us had our eyes opened and were then cleansed

[22:45] <Mytan-VHL> But, they are trying to build it back the way is "was"

[22:45] <HostBob> Yes, Mytan, they have not yet come to know who the Lord is, but they will :)

[22:45] <HostBob> many have, and more every day

[22:46] <Mytan-VHL> I pray for them to soon know.

[22:46] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise the Lord

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[22:46] <HostBob> Welcome back, Perot :)

[22:46] <perot-VHL> Thank you

[22:46] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Welcome back

[22:47] <Levi-VHL> Hi Perot welcome back

[22:47] <HostBob> See, Rose, this chat hosting job is pretty easy - all I have to do is paste in what the Bible says :)

[22:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Bob that was so nice thank you

[22:47] <perot-VHL> I can only imagine what i've missed

[22:47] <HostBob> You're welcome :)

[22:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6LOL

[22:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6and I thought you were doing it all your self

[22:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I guess my eyes are open

[22:47] <rosesharon-VHL> 6lol

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[22:47] <light2-VHL> 4You can read it all tomorrow on vhl, perot

[22:48] <Mytan-VHL> I need to learn this cut and paste stuff.

[22:48] <HostBob> Welcome, Tigger

[22:48] <Rhema-VHL> 1010how do you cut and paste in here?

[22:48] <Levi-VHL> Yes but one must know WHERE to go , Bob and you do thank you

[22:48] <HostBob> Cut and Paste is easy...

[22:48] <perot-VHL> Where do I go to read it?

[22:48] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hi Tigger it is nice to see you again

[22:48] <Rhema-VHL> 1010from the menu in the browser?

[22:48] <tigger-VHL> Hello everyone

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[22:48] <HostBob> mark the Scripture with your mouse, Ctrl-C to copy, then Ctrl-V to paste in here

[22:48] <light2-VHL> 4the same site your on now

[22:48] <Rhema-VHL> 10hi Road Warrior LOL

[22:48] <Mytan-VHL> What about this on line bible you use.

[22:48] <light2-VHL> 4the home page

[22:48] <Levi-VHL> Hi tigger

[22:48] <perot-VHL> Thanks

[22:48] <RoadWarrior-VHL> howdy

[22:49] <HostBob> I use QuickVerse software

[22:49] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hi road how are you

[22:49] <HostBob> welcome, warrior

[22:49] <RoadWarrior-VHL> im ol

[22:49] <RoadWarrior-VHL> ok

[22:49] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2hey Road Warrior :)

[22:49] <HostBob> But if you know how to have multiple browser windows open...

[22:49] <tigger-VHL> Hi LEVI

[22:49] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God

[22:49] <RoadWarrior-VHL> hi

[22:49] <Mytan-VHL> What version is that?

[22:49] <HostBob> you can use the online Bible found in VHL

[22:49] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Oh I can imagine your screen

[22:49] <HostBob> Quickverse has several translations available

[22:50] <Levi-VHL> Here I thought you were typing that fast . Honestly I did

[22:50] <HostBob> yes, lots of windows open :)

[22:50] <Mytan-VHL> How do you do that without losing track of the chat?

[22:50] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Thats what I thought

[22:50] <light2-VHL> 4You still have to know where to look for the verses,??

[22:50] <HostBob> practice, Mytan :)

[22:50] <tigger-VHL> Hi Rosesharon

[22:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL Bob give them a quick cut and paste lesson LOL

[22:50] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I was thinking geezz I'm slow

[22:50] <light2-VHL> 4Know the word

[22:50] <HostBob> Wel, for example...

[22:50] <tigger-VHL> Hi Bob

[22:50] <Levi-VHL> The computer is quite new to me and I just don't have the time to learn any more right now

[22:50] <Mytan-VHL> LOL;-)Thanks Bob.

[22:50] <Rhema-VHL> 1010LOL Levi

[22:50] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2I taught someone how to cut and paste in ChristChat Bob now we call him Grandpa Cut and Paste LOL he cuts and pastes so mcuh LOL

[22:50] <rosesharon-VHL> 6How are you Tigger

[22:50] <HostBob> if I have a verse in mind that has the words "extend" and "borders" but cannot remember where...

[22:51] <HostBob> I use the search function to find it

[22:51] <RoadWarrior-VHL> LOL WNE

[22:51] <HostBob> it's very cool

[22:51] <Rhema-VHL> 1010he's the fastest cut'n'paster in all of the west

[22:51] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL have you seen Watchman in a while ?

[22:51] <light2-VHL> 4The only other problem is the 500 verses to choose from:->

[22:51] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2I haven't seen him in ages

[22:51] <Rhema-VHL> 1010during the day

[22:51] <HostBob> :)

[22:51] <rosesharon-VHL> 6LOL better blow on that gun lol

[22:51] <Mytan-VHL> Sounds like it. I'll have to learn.

[22:51] <Rhema-VHL> 1010he would like it in here

[22:52] <perot-VHL> for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 3:24being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus;

[22:52] <tigger-VHL> I am doing much better today thanks to your prayers

[22:52] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2this is just monday nights I come here Rhema it's prophecy night on mondays LOL

[22:52] <rosesharon-VHL> 6I am so glad to hear that and I won't stop praying for you

[22:52] <RoadWarrior-VHL> he has chat rooms for every night of the week LOL

[22:52] <Rhema-VHL> 1010so now we know where you hide out LOL

[22:52] <HostBob> Looks like Perot did a paste :)

[22:52] <Rhema-VHL> 1010what are some other nights in here?

[22:53] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2this is the only night I come here LOL

[22:53] <Mytan-VHL> good job Perot

[22:53] <Rhema-VHL> 1010Perot looks like someone from ChristChat

[22:53] <light2-VHL> 4congratulations Perot

[22:53] <HostBob> Wed night is the other moderated chat, with Stan from Jerusalem

[22:53] <HostBob> but they may change the night on that

[22:53] <Rhema-VHL> 1010but what other topics do they have during the week?

[22:53] <HostBob> the rooms are always open for anyone who wants to come in

[22:53] <Rhema-VHL> 1010kewl :-)

[22:54] <perot-VHL> Nice to be able to refernce the scriptures during a bible study

[22:54] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Hey Bob you are in flordia right ?

[22:54] <HostBob> Yes, I'm here in Tampa

[22:54] <Rhema-VHL> 1010that's Florida LOL

[22:54] <HostBob> OK - here's the next topic.....

[22:54] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL new topic oh boy :)

[22:54] <Levi-VHL> go

[22:54] <Rhema-VHL> 1010have you heard of Babson Park or Lake Wales, Bob?

[22:54] <tigger-VHL> Thanks Rosesharon you are a wonderful example of a christian

[22:54] <HostBob> your favorite Psalms, and why :)

[22:54] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Hey Bob heard of Live Oak Florida

[22:55] <HostBob> nope :)

[22:55] <light2-VHL> 4Well all am going to leave for now, don't know if I'll make it back, God Bless you all and keep you!

[22:55] <Rhema-VHL> 1010bye light2

[22:55] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2good on Bob :) I love all of them except Psalms 151 LOL

[22:55] <HostBob> What is your favorite Psalm - and I'll cut and paste from it

[22:55] <Levi-VHL> I already told Hope mine ....121

[22:55] <HostBob> you have to say WHY :)

[22:55] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Thank's Tigger I don't think the Lord would have it any other way We are suppose to lift our brothers and sister up

[22:55] <light2-VHL> 4Ps91, bye

[22:55] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2great psalm Light :)

[22:56] <HostBob> My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. (Psalms 121:2 NIV)

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[22:56] <Levi-VHL> bye light2

[22:56] <tigger-VHL> Amen

[22:56] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2I like Psalm 27 alot :) and Psalm 35 I pray alot :)

[22:56] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Oh I live in Live Oak north of Gainsville

[22:56] <HostBob> He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. (Psalms 91:1 NIV)

[22:56] <HostBob> I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust." (Psalms 91:2 NIV)

[22:57] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Amen

[22:57] <perot-VHL> 119:7I will give thanks to you with uprightness of heart,

[22:57] <HostBob> The LORD is my light and my salvation-- whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life-- of whom shall I be afraid? (Psalms 27:1 NIV)

[22:57] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2amen who shall I fear :)

[22:57] <HostBob> OK - let's hear some more :)

[22:57] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2and psalm 35 stand up and fight against them that fight against me :)

[22:57] <HostBob> One thing I ask of the LORD, this is what I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple. (Psalms 27:4 NIV)

[22:58] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Tigger the word is strong in this room isn't

[22:58] <HostBob> That's the kind of heart that God is looking for

[22:58] <perot-VHL> 66:8Praise our God, you peoples! Make the sound of his praise heard,

[22:58] <tigger-VHL> Yes it is

[22:58] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Praise God a heart we should all have Lord I want a heart that is after you always

[22:59] <HostBob> Ahhh, a good one Perot :)

[22:59] <HostBob> Psalm 66: Shout with joy to God, all the earth! Sing the glory of his name; make his praise glorious!

[22:59] <HostBob> Say to God, "How awesome are your deeds! So great is your power that your enemies cringe before you. All the earth bows down to you; they sing praise to you, they sing praise to your name."

[23:00] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Amen to that :)

[23:00] <HostBob> Come and see what God has done: he is awesome in his deeds among mortals.

[23:00] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Well I hate to say goodnight I could stay here forever but 5am comes early so I will say goodnight and may the Lord bless each and everyone of you

[23:00] <HostBob> Good night, Rose! Shalom!

[23:01] <perot-VHL> Need to go see what they plan for the 2nd nite of the movie "JESUS"

[23:01] <Mytan-VHL> Goodnight Rose. May God bring you back next week.

[23:01] <HostBob> OK - let's hear from some more of you - FAV Psalms

[23:01] <rosesharon-VHL> 6Good night Tigger hope to see you again

[23:01] <rosesharon-VHL> 6night everyone

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[23:01] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I heard reviews...that parts were accurate, but it was disappointing when they made Jesus looked confused and unclear of His mission here on earth

[23:02] <tigger-VHL> Goodnight everyone got to get up early for work. I LOVE YOU ALL!

[23:02] <HostBob> Yes, Rhema, that's the way modern "critical" scholarship now approaches the life of Jesus - that He somehow developed the idea in His head gradually that He was the Messiah

[23:02] <HostBob> See ya Tigger!

[23:03] <Mytan-VHL> Psalm 19. Still trying to figure this cut and paste and how to get to the online bible.

[23:03] <Mytan-VHL> Goodnight Tigger.

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[23:03] <HostBob> Psalm 19: The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.

[23:03] <Rhema-VHL> 1010that's Hollyweird for you...take a great story and mess it up

[23:04] <Mytan-VHL> Amen and amen.

[23:04] <HostBob> Yes, but their basis is the "Bible scholars" who neither know the Lord nor love the Lord

[23:04] <Rhema-VHL> 1010it's called head knowledge without heart knowledge

[23:05] <HostBob> they dishonor our great God and Savior Jesus by portraying Him as less than He is

[23:05] <Rhema-VHL> 1010amen to that

[23:05] <HostBob> which is the basis of all cults, by the way

[23:06] <Levi-VHL> I typed all that by myself ..no cut and paste

[23:06] <perot-VHL> But as for me, in the abundance of your lovingkindness I will come into your house: I will bow toward your holy temple in reverence of you.

[23:06] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I started to watch the Last Temptation of Christ without knowing what it was...I couldn't believe it, they utterly trashed the truth

[23:06] <HostBob> anyone who claims to know God but does not honor the Son as they honor the Father is a false religion

[23:06] <HostBob> Amen, Perot

[23:06] <Levi-VHL> Sorry I was late Bob but I was typing lol

[23:07] <HostBob> :) Levi

[23:07] <HostBob> Are you Jewish, Levi? :)

[23:07] <Mytan-VHL> Amen Bob. I wish more christians understood that.

[23:07] <Levi-VHL> circumcised in heart

[23:07] <HostBob> :)

[23:08] <HostBob> I thought the portrayal of Matthew (Levi) in that TV show was interesting

[23:08] <Mytan-VHL> We are all Jewish, by adoption, aren't we?:-)

[23:08] <HostBob> it showed how despised tax collectors were in those days - traitors

[23:08] <HostBob> and the Zealots - revolutionaries who only wanted to kill Romans

[23:08] <Mytan-VHL> Hello Bob. They still are.

[23:08] <HostBob> and Jesus had both among His disciples

[23:09] <HostBob> symbolic, I think, of the varied backgrounds that we have befoer the Lord brings us together

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[23:09] <Rhema-VHL> 1010Jesus picked out the worse to use them for the glory of God...just like He still does today

[23:09] <HostBob> Yes, Rhema

[23:10] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2ok all I am off to bed now :)

[23:10] <perot-VHL> Wasn't it Paul who said that he was the worst of sinners and yet look how Jesus used him

[23:10] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Take care and God bless :)

[23:10] <HostBob> OK - we have an official lull here - anyone have any comments or questions?

[23:10] <honoringGod-VHL> Hi everyone!

[23:10] <Rhema-VHL> 1010bye WNE the guy with the long name

[23:10] <HostBob> See ya Worthy :)

[23:10] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL Chrissie LOL

[23:10] <HostBob> Thanks for coming :)

[23:11] <honoringGod-VHL> Just got back from picking up the wife,

[23:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Bob take care and hope I got you researching some tonight :)

[23:11] <honoringGod-VHL> Hey Bob

[23:11] <HostBob> Was she heavy? (don't answer that)

[23:11] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I was going to ask the same thing LOL

[23:11] <HostBob> yes Tim? :)

[23:11] <honoringGod-VHL> before you go, thanks for the wonderful screensavers

[23:11] <Mytan-VHL> Bob that was bad.

[23:11] <HostBob> You're welcome :)

[23:11] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I'm glad I'm not the only one with humor LOL

[23:11] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2George :)

[23:11] <HostBob> :)

[23:11] <honoringGod-VHL> I have them on now, and they really help me daily

[23:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2LOL Chrissie save the jokes for CC :)

[23:12] <HostBob> Wonderful, Tim!

[23:12] <honoringGod-VHL> I've refeared at least 6 people to your site

[23:12] <Levi-VHL> Question?...Bob why is that some people have a ROAD OF DAMASCUS experience while so many do not and struggle? Conversion I mean

[23:12] <Rhema-VHL> 1010I didn't say it though LOL

[23:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2Bob you gotta come into ChristChat one of these days :)

[23:12] <Rhema-VHL> 10Bob did LOL

[23:12] <Mytan-VHL> What screensavers?

[23:12] <WorthyNewsEditor-VHL> 2see you all later on :)

[23:12] <HostBob> Hmmm good question Levi :)

[23:12] <Levi-VHL> See you Worthy God Bless

[23:12] <HostBob> Anyone care to venture an answer for Levi?

[23:12] <Rhema-VHL> 1010because some of us need to be knocked off of our high horses, Levi

[23:13] <honoringGod-VHL> God Bless you Bob and he has with your site

[23:13] <HostBob> Mytan, go to my website and click on "links" - there will be a site to go to download the screensavers

[23:13] <honoringGod-VHL> winning souls for Christ!!!!

[23:13] <HostBob> that's a good answer, Rhema - any others?

[23:13] <Mytan-VHL> Thank you Bob.

[23:13] <perot-VHL> Is he refering to the narrow path verses the wide path? help me

[23:14] <HostBob> personally, Levi, I think that everyone struggles a lot

[23:14] <honoringGod-VHL> Mytan, scroll down ,once you've clicked on links and you will see the web ring

[23:14] <HostBob> regardless of how we came to know the Lord

[23:14] <honoringGod-VHL> click on that and you will see the screen savers

[23:14] <honoringGod-VHL> They are Great

[23:14] <Levi-VHL> But I wasn't on any high horse although I know what your'e saying

[23:14] <Mytan-VHL> I agree with Rhema. Some just think more of themselves than they ought so God has to humble them as he did Paul

[23:14] <Rhema-VHL> 1010everyone is different, and God deals with people individually...one person may give in and come to Christ whereas someone else may struggle and take their time

[23:15] <HostBob> and the more you want to serve the Lord, the greater the "deserts" you will go through in preparation

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[23:15] <HostBob> Look at all of the men who God chose in the Bible - they had desert experiences of different kinds to prepare them

[23:15] <Mytan-VHL> Remember the fire refines.

[23:15] <HostBob> Welcome, Sue :)

[23:15] <perot-VHL> What is the url of your site Host Bob?

[23:16] <HostBob> www.trumpetsounds.com

[23:16] <honoringGod-VHL> perot, I'll get this one Bob,

[23:16] <perot-VHL> thanks

[23:16] <HostBob> sure :)

[23:16] <honoringGod-VHL> Trumpetsounds.com

[23:16] <Rhema-VHL> 1010has anyone seen the Prince of Egypt? That is awesome how they did the animation of the burning bush experience...they did the Lord some justice in that scene

[23:16] <HostBob> thanks, Tim :)

[23:16] <HostBob> Yes, Rema - it's a great movie - probably my all time favorite

[23:16] <honoringGod-VHL> Sure, I visit it daily ,Bob

[23:17] <Levi-VHL> no I didn't

[23:17] <Mytan-VHL> Thank you Honor. I have Bob's website bookmarked. I will look for the screensavers.

[23:18] <Rhema-VHL> 1010to whom more is given, more is required...a person with a great calling on their life will have more sacrifices and more trials to endure than someone with a lesser calling....not that either is better than the other, just in comparison to lives reached for the Lord

[23:18] <Rhema-VHL> 1010are you still here, George?

[23:18] <Levi-VHL> well said

[23:18] <HostBob> Yes, Rhema - and we needn't settle for a mundane, mediocre Christian existence - we can all be genuine disciples

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[23:19] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN BOB!

[23:19] <HostBob> we should all aspire to live as Jesus did

[23:19] <HostBob> to speak as He spoke

[23:19] <HostBob> to act in compassion as He did

[23:19] <HostBob> to shun evil like He did

[23:19] <Mytan-VHL> I agree. He said He came to give us life and more abundantly. That starts here and now.

[23:19] <Rhema-VHL> 1010amen to that, I prefer to believe that God is not a God of bland, but is exciting and interesting

[23:19] <HostBob> Yes - there is nothing more exciting than a life sold-out to the Lord

[23:20] <HostBob> lots of adventures :)

[23:20] <hope-VHL> 3AMEN, AMEN AMEN BOB!!!! :)

[23:20] <Mytan-VHL> Following Jesus is anything but bland.

[23:20] <perot-VHL> Sure beats where i was before!!!!

[23:20] <Levi-VHL> You know it perot

[23:20] <Mytan-VHL> Amen Bob.

[23:20] <Rhema-VHL> 1010following Jesus through religion is bland, but seeking His face is downright exciting...you never know what God's going to do or how He's going to show up

[23:21] <Mytan-VHL> That is the ticket Perot

[23:21] <HostBob> Yes :)

[23:21] <HostBob> May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer. (Psalms 19:14 NIV)

[23:21] <perot-VHL> The thing that stikes me is that GOD is long suffering and I am proof!!

[23:21] <Levi-VHL> When you said seek ye my face my heart said unto thee thy face Lord shall I seek

[23:22] <HostBob> Yes, Perot - as am I - He should have given up on me long ago, but He did not

[23:22] <Mytan-VHL> Must go all. Thank you for another interesting fellowship. God bless you all till we meet again. Either here or there.

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[23:22] <HostBob> God bless, Mytan :) See ya :)

[23:22] <Rhema-VHL> 1010bye Mytan

[23:22] <Mytan-VHL> Praise God he didn't give up on any of us.

[23:22] <Levi-VHL> God Bless Mytan ..Come back

[23:23] <Rhema-VHL> 1010is this your site, Bob?

[23:23] <Mytan-VHL> Bye

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[23:23] <HostBob> No, Rhema, I'm just a volunteer chat room host here on Monday's

[23:23] <HostBob> Stan, the Wednesday night host, is the editor of VHL

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[23:24] <HostBob> Welcome, Don!

[23:24] <DonB-VHL> Shalom...hostbob

[23:24] <Levi-VHL> Are you a lay person or are you in the ministry Bob

[23:24] <HostBob> Shalom :)

[23:24] <hope-VHL> 3AND A GREAT HOST AT THAT !!!! BOB

[23:24] <perot-VHL> Bob, this is a wonderful way to refresh our souls with the word of GOD. I love it!

[23:24] <hope-VHL> 3HI DON!!!!!!

[23:25] <Levi-VHL> Hi Don

[23:25] <HostBob> Well, Levi, I don't really like those distinctions between "lay" and "ministry" - they are artificial disctinctions not in the Scriptures

[23:25] <Rhema-VHL> 1010Well all, this is my chance to go to bed since the little one is asleep...good night and God bless

[23:25] <Levi-VHL> As iron sharpeneth iron

[23:25] <HostBob> See ya, Rhema :)

[23:25] <HostBob> Yes, Perot :)

[23:26] <Levi-VHL> true

[23:26] <HostBob> We are all in ministry

[23:26] <Rhema-VHL> 1010God bless :-)

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[23:26] <HostBob> we tend to look at a certain class of people as the "ministers" when we are all supposed to be

[23:26] <Levi-VHL> But distinctions none the less and I was just wondering

[23:26] <HostBob> :)

[23:26] <Levi-VHL> true again

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[23:27] <HostBob> Ok, how many people are really left in her - show of hands :)

[23:27] <HostBob> in here

[23:27] <perot-VHL> 12i'm here

[23:27] <Levi-VHL> I am

[23:28] <hope-VHL> 3I'm here

[23:28] <HostBob> ok - there are four of us :)

[23:28] <perot-VHL> 12hope we didn't miss something important

[23:28] <Levi-VHL> Where is Don he isn't on my list

[23:28] <HostBob> He just left

[23:28] <Levi-VHL> oh

[23:28] <hope-VHL> 3What happened to Don?

[23:29] <hope-VHL> 3he probably got bumped, he has aol

[23:29] <perot-VHL> 12It's getting pretty late for you isn't it Bob?

[23:29] <HostBob> Yes, I was just thinking I should leave shortly....

[23:29] <Levi-VHL> But that's the truth Hope

[23:29] <HostBob> any last minute questions or comments? You all can stay as long as you like

[23:30] <hope-VHL> 3some nights we can't stop talking.......

[23:30] <perot-VHL> 12I'm on the west coast so still have time

[23:30] <perot-VHL> 12I will be visiting your web site, Thanks again

[23:30] <Levi-VHL> I type too slow to get anything out

[23:30] <HostBob> Here's your big chance - ask that Bible prophecy question that always stumped ya :)

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[23:31] <HostBob> you're welcome :) my pleasure :)

[23:31] <hope-VHL> 3Bob, someone the other night asked about a person with multiple personalities

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[23:31] <hope-VHL> 3one personality says she's saved..........don't you think that these personalities are demonic?

[23:32] <Levi-VHL> I have something to say but I think it would be misconstrued

[23:32] <HostBob> Good question - here's my opinion.... yes, certainly there are instances where it is demon possession

[23:32] <hope-VHL> 3go ahead

[23:32] <hope-VHL> 3go on

[23:32] <Levi-VHL> who?

[23:32] <HostBob> at other times, perhaps just defense mechanisms by the brain to cope with traumatic situations

[23:32] <hope-VHL> 3any one with an opinion, chime right in

[23:33] <HostBob> sure, go ahead

[23:33] <HostBob> think about it - we all have tendencies towards

[23:33] <hope-VHL> 3Yeah, that's kind of a scary thought....either way

[23:33] <HostBob> multiple personalities, right?

[23:33] <HostBob> act one way at one time, another at another

[23:33] <hope-VHL> 3well, anger, happy etc

[23:34] <hope-VHL> 3yeah, a beast comes out of me sometimes LOL

[23:34] <HostBob> especially if we compartmentalize life (read: hypocrisy)

[23:34] <hope-VHL> 3good point

[23:34] <HostBob> acting one way around a certain group of people

[23:35] <HostBob> that's not really multiple personalities, but it seems that seem people have trauma that takes them further

[23:35] <HostBob> however, I do believe demonic possession is often involved

[23:35] <HostBob> anyway, that's my opinion, for what it's worth

[23:35] <perot-VHL> 12I would think that if you surround yourself with Christ, The demon would be hard pressed to be an issue

[23:36] <hope-VHL> 3I was at a LOSS for words the other night, when that came up

[23:36] <HostBob> yes, Perot

[23:36] <hope-VHL> 3Do you think the "thorn" in Paul's side was a demon? Bob

[23:37] <HostBob> hope, Paul called it a "messenger of Satan", right?

[23:37] <hope-VHL> 3BAD SPIRIT?

[23:37] <hope-VHL> 3Yeah,

[23:37] <HostBob> I think it was a physical infirmity of some kind

[23:37] <HostBob> that the Lord allowed him to have to keep him humble

[23:38] <HostBob> which kinda blows away the guaranteed healing theory of some :)

[23:38] <hope-VHL> 3but couldn't a messenger of satan be a demon.....? just wondering

[23:39] <HostBob> To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. (2 Corinthians 12:7 NIV)

[23:39] <perot-VHL> 12Thank you all for a wonderful evening of fellowship. Will visit again soon GOD Bless!!:-)

[23:39] <HostBob> Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.

[23:39] <hope-VHL> 3Good night Perot, God Bless you

[23:39] <HostBob> See ya Perot :) Shalom :)

[23:40] <HostBob> Pauls says "in the flesh" which seems to imply a physical problem

[23:40] <hope-VHL> 3I NEVER thought it was a demon, someone else told me that, and then I just wondered.

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[23:40] <HostBob> But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me. (2 Corinthians 12:9 NIV)

[23:41] <hope-VHL> 3I didn't think God would allow a DEMON to be around us, or to torment us....

[23:41] <HostBob> Interesting, isn't it? In many circles today, it would be thought that God's power would be shown by healing Paul, but Paul said he was glad it remained, so that in his weakness Christ's power could really be shown

[23:41] <hope-VHL> 3AROUND US WAS NOT A GOOD STATEMENT

[23:42] <hope-VHL> 3We have demons everywhere...

[23:42] <HostBob> Yes, trying to destroy us, but they have boundaries

[23:42] <hope-VHL> 3RIGHT

[23:42] <HostBob> they can attempt to deceive us, but we have all the weapons we need to defeat them

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[23:43] <hope-VHL> 3Paul teaches us to appreciate all the good that God does for us

[23:43] <HostBob> Yes :)

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[23:44] <HostBob> I better run now - take care, Hope :) May the Lord shine His face on you :)

[23:44] <HostBob> And anyone else left in the room :) Shalom :)

[23:44] <hope-VHL> 3THANKS BOB! KEEP THE FIRE BURNING!!! ;)

[23:44] <HostBob> Will do!!! :)

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